Japan in 1997:
Japan today:
Cancún climate change summit: Japan refuses to extend Kyoto protocol
Talks threatened with breakdown after forthright Japanese refusal to extend Kyoto emissions commitments
* John Vidal guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 1 December 2010 18.16 GMT
Japan refuses to extend Kyoto protocol. ‘The forthrightness of the statement took people by surprise,’ said one British official
The delicately balanced global climate talks in Cancún suffered a serious setback last night when Japan categorically stated its opposition to extending the Kyoto protocol – the binding international treaty that commits most of the world’s richest countries to making emission cuts.
The Kyoto protocol was adopted in Japan in 1997 by major emitting countries, who committed themselves to cut emissions by an average 5% on 1990 figures by 2012.
However the US congress refused to ratify it and remains outside the protocol.
The brief statement, made by Jun Arima, an official in the government’s economics trade and industry department, in an open session, was the strongest yet made against the protocol by one of the largest emitters of greenhouse gases.
He said: “Japan will not inscribe its target under the Kyoto protocol on any conditions or under any circumstances.”
The move came out of the blue for other delegations at the conference.
more at the Guardian
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Reality bites, when Japan says something so blunt, you know they mean it – Anthony
h/t to WUWT reader Steve (Paris)
UPDATE: I’ve made this a “sticky” to stay at the top of WUWT awhile – Anthony
Just say no to Kyoto. Love it.
Here’s a joke.
What’s the difference between a politician and a lady?
If a lady says “No” she means “Maybe”; if she says “Maybe” she means “Yes”; but if she says “Yes” she isn’t a lady.
If a politician says “Yes” he means “Maybe”; if he says “Maybe” he means “No”; but if he says “No” he’s not a politician.
If the Japanese said “No”; I believe they meant “Heck No”; or possibly even “Hecky-Darn No”.
I see the UN sponsered department the World Meteorological Organisation is claiming 2010 was the hottest year on record for “some regions of earth” as dutifully reported by the BBC’s chief climate change propogandist Richard Black.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11903397
Of course the first thing one concludes from the WMO’s media release, and the unquestioning copy taken by the BBC’s ‘journalist’ (more like activist) is that the WMO would say that wouldn’t they? It’s in their interest to stay in existence, so I’m guessing we’re going to be hearing lots more “this year is worse than last year” statements from them. Notably the only vacancy they have is for a “Programme Manager: Communications and Media Relations” – figures.
the rats are abandoning the ship…
This is the beginning of the end of what was the new beginning…
I spotted this a day ago, it does look like their goose is cooked; Cancun will go down in history as the place where Kyoto ended.
Well, there was a lecture on BBC 2 last night, given by Prof Brian Cox, where he banged on about peer review and how important it is to not be “impartial” when it comes to science coverage. He talked about the science of climate change as something that shouldn’t be disputed, because of all the peer reviewed work in its favour.
But of course as we know, “peer review” in Physics (Cox’s area) is a very different beast to peer review in Climate Science.
Speaking of CANCUN: this article appeared at Human Events
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=40320
Phony Claims Infest Cancun Climate Conference
says in part:
‘……Claim One: A four-degree rise in global temperature is likely to occur during the 21st Century.
Let’s mow down the first claim first. I drive this point home in my book, Climategate, and the global whiners loath it: Since 1850—the beginning of the Industrial Revolution—the Earth’s average surface temperature has risen only .7o Celsius (just a bit more than one degree Fahrenheit). Point-seven degrees Celsius in 160 years—that’s all. And this minuscule temperature increase coincided with the proliferation of the train, car, truck and even the lawnmower and leaf blower. Oh, and the bulk of this warming occurred before 1940. ………’
I’m on Japan on this one. It’s like sean says above they got the short end of the stick alright.
I don’t know if it has any correlation but it is somewhat interesting to note that when Japan ratified the protocol their economy never recovered and has spiraled downwards ever since, while on the other hand China has taken longer and faster economical leaps than economists thought possible.
If India had had Chinas amount of coal reserves I bet my cent that India would have taken much bigger leaps as well since western world industry wouldn’t have put everything in China so to speak.
BTW looks like someone wants to set up a team of inspectors to jet set around the globe and double check everybody is reporting their carbon emissions correctly… Now what does this say about what is currently happening??
Cancun going the way of Copenhagen. Good.
And from here on the lee of Lake Erie where there’s a band (about ten miles wide) of lake effect snow measured in feet, could use some of that global warming.
An early Christmas present from the Japanese people!
Hope this does mark the beginning of the end, but we are still being deluged with pro AGW stuff here in the UK.
E.g. Dr Vicky Pope of the Met Office reported as going on about how warm 2010 was/will be; how all the independent data sets show this and NASA may show it the warmest ever; UK cold winters only a regional and minor issue, warming still going on, even if affected by variations such as minor La Nina, Asian aerosols, etc.
They aren’t giving up yet. And UK has a Law stipulating massive reduction – 80% I think – in CO2 by some early date, like 2030 or 50. (So cold here in my heat leaky 1750 house that I can’t recall)
guardian were first up with this story approx 24 hours ago and, so far, nothing on google from bbc, nyt, WaPo, Uk Tele.
richard black hasn’t done a report since the 29th nov. in fact, very little MSM.
there are more results for:
3 Dec: HindustanTimes: Chetan Chauhan: US, China close in on carbon accord
The first positive signal emerged from the Cancun climate summit when China agreed to international verification of its carbon emission control measures, a long-standing demand of the US. India, which has been toeing the Chinese line, is likely to accept international verification of its domestic actions, a contentious topic in country’s domestic politics…
“We have no problem with MRV,” Su Wei, China’s chief negotiator said. “Both countries (US and China) would like to promote the progress and emerge from Cancun with a deal.”…
http://www.hindustantimes.com/US-China-close-in-on-carbon-accord/Article1-633693.aspx
2 Dec: AP: Arthur Max: US, China move closer on key climate issue
Nonetheless, analysts said an understanding on measuring emissions would be an important step that could help break the long-standing deadlock on reducing pollutants that scientists say have caused global temperatures to steadily rise over recent decades.
The World Meteorological Organization is due to present data Thursday on worldwide temperatures this year, and scientists say they expect 2010 to turn out to match the hottest years on record…
Kathrin Gutman, who follows the talks for the World Wildlife Fund, said an agreement on verification would be an important piece of a deal that could “unlock the larger discussion” on emissions reductions…
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2010/12/02/us_china_move_closer_on_key_climate_issue/?rss_id=Boston.com+%2F+Boston+Globe+–+National+News
not time to celebrate yet, but kyoto abandoning kyoto is a good start.
Tokyo to Beijing and New Delhi; ” Get your F***ing hands of my wallet! “.
India and China are saying if they don’t get their bribes it is a deal breaker, you would have to have a heart of stone not to laugh.
The postponement of christmas by turkey has become definite , finally joseph admitted it .
No mention in our news. But this time no news=good news.
I need some help here. I don’t usually have difficulty translating bureaucrat-speak but I’m struggling with Mr Arima’s statement: “Japan will not inscribe its target under the Kyoto protocol on any conditions or under any circumstances.”
How is this consistent with “Japan refuses to extend Kyoto treaty”? Is this some new meaning of the word “inscribe” that I have not previously encountered? Does it work better in Japanese?
Or is there some sort of monument at Cancun that is under attack by an army of diplomats with chisels?
Just asking.
Wow!! Tokyo drops Kyoto! Just awesome! Thanks to all those blogs that destroyed co2 pseudoscience!
All those free flights to exotic places for the ‘Canutes’ in East Anglia. How sad for them.
It used to be Kyoto, Rio, Bali, Copenhagen, Cancun……….hmm. Next year Norwich.. just doesn’t have the same ring about it does it?
Those lovely seaside sunsets on the taxpayer, gone forever. How sad.
You know, God really does do irony. It snowed in October in England two years ago as they debated The Climate Change Bill, we had Climategate for Copenhagen, and now UK totally Bu****rd up with snow in November. I just wonder if any of our rulers have got the ‘ears to hear’, or more necessarily the courage to call STOP as the Japanese have done.
should have said richard black hasn’t done a report about cancun since 29 nov, but of course he’s been spinning the hottest year story (2 Dec):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11903397
But… but… what about the children!!!!
The eco-crisis industry will not be amused by this. Expect non-stop campaigning on the evils of Japanese whaling or ANYTHING anti-Japanese they can invent in an attempt to extort them back into line.
From, (as linked to earlier by Mike says: December 2, 2010 at 10:59 am )
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-30/world-shouldn-t-wait-for-u-s-resolution-on-climate-agreement-japan-says.html
Excerpt,
Jonathan Pershing, chief of the U.S. delegation, said earlier this week that –
the Obama administration stands by its commitment to reduce its emissions of heat-trapping gases by 17 percent for the 15 years through 2020.
(EVERYONE should of fallen about laughing as he uttered these words)
“heat-trapping gases” – for goodness sakes, “economics” is (unintentionally) saving science….
But you just don’t get that “here” do you…
If you do “get it” (and I’m wrong), then
please explain to me HOW carbon dioxide “traps” heat.
The only “GHG” that “traps” heat (temporarily) is water vapour,
by it’s latent heat properties,
WHICH CO2 DOES NOT HAVE (at atmospheric temperatures).
Science web site of the year, in whatever year, that does not realise
CO2 CAN NOT trap heat.
No wonder “economics” has HAD to save us from (AGW pseudo) “science”.
You just don’t “get it” do you,
quibbling the (AGW) figures ain’t it,
questioning the (AGW) principles “is it”.
That’s why the Japanese have done what they’ve done.
Alex the skeptic says:
I highly doubt the left will ever profess a fear of G.O.D….
The Sex poodle was asked “what is it about no you don’t understand?”
I say we send James Hansen over there and let him picket. They will melt.
He can wear them down.
My experience with oriental negotiating is that they never get this blunt.
I just discovered a positive feedback! – where I live in Sweden, we have had around 1m of snow over a week. There is no place left for the snow ploughs to push it. The only solution is to put it in big trucks and dump it somewhere else (near my house). So, more snow means mores now ploughs, more trucks, more diesel and more Co2.
Just scraping the barrel to help the climate modelers you know.
Robinson says:
December 2, 2010 at 12:00 pm
” But of course as we know, “peer review” in Physics (Cox’s area) is a very different beast to peer review in Climate Science. ”
I wouldn’t be so sure of that…
Is all “climate physics” 5 sigma, pier reviewed – thought not.
Much of AGW “climate science” is accepted (read pier reviewed) “physics” though.
The greenhouse effect for example.
What is the proof for “back radiation” from clouds to the earth’s surface. ?
Without which, there is no “greenhouse effect” (Sorry Gavin Schmidt – well not sorry really..),.
Somewhat akin to the missing atmospheric hot spot come to think of it (Sorry James Hansen – well not sorry really).
It would help if we had a reliable global HADcrut temp record to judge such against, but alas we have not (Sorry Phil Jones – well not sorry really).