Japan in 1997:
Japan today:
Cancún climate change summit: Japan refuses to extend Kyoto protocol
Talks threatened with breakdown after forthright Japanese refusal to extend Kyoto emissions commitments
* John Vidal guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 1 December 2010 18.16 GMT
Japan refuses to extend Kyoto protocol. ‘The forthrightness of the statement took people by surprise,’ said one British official
The delicately balanced global climate talks in Cancún suffered a serious setback last night when Japan categorically stated its opposition to extending the Kyoto protocol – the binding international treaty that commits most of the world’s richest countries to making emission cuts.
The Kyoto protocol was adopted in Japan in 1997 by major emitting countries, who committed themselves to cut emissions by an average 5% on 1990 figures by 2012.
However the US congress refused to ratify it and remains outside the protocol.
The brief statement, made by Jun Arima, an official in the government’s economics trade and industry department, in an open session, was the strongest yet made against the protocol by one of the largest emitters of greenhouse gases.
He said: “Japan will not inscribe its target under the Kyoto protocol on any conditions or under any circumstances.”
The move came out of the blue for other delegations at the conference.
more at the Guardian
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Reality bites, when Japan says something so blunt, you know they mean it – Anthony
h/t to WUWT reader Steve (Paris)
UPDATE: I’ve made this a “sticky” to stay at the top of WUWT awhile – Anthony
“”””” Douglas DC says:
December 2, 2010 at 4:08 pm
what is Japanese for “Put it where the sun doesn’t shine.”? “””””
Well our Japanese friends are extremely polite; so their way of putting your epithet is:
“That will be very difficult to do, Douglas San!”
To ‘Rational Debate’, Anthony and ‘others’…..
Reading this article and watching Senator Inhofe’s address to his colleagues, I’m
truly heartened and it’s come at a really good time ~ ’cause Ian and I have just read
a ‘little soylent green’ article in our local ‘Coastal Leader’ (weekly paper).
(You know how I’ve kept suggesting that all of us need to take a stroll (or, take a Ute or 4 wheeler, or trusty steed…whatever your choice) on 90 miles of pristine beach below the Coorong??? Well, my friends ~ the ‘greenies’ are attempting to forbid us from placing our surf fishing rods into that beautiful ocean. They are talking of ‘dead zones’ (loved watching Christopher Walkin in that in the 70’s) where NO OCEAN LIFE WHATSOEVER exist…and to ‘fight against that’… they want to take “my” (I get pretty possessive when someone I don’t know wants me to stop using something)
ability to catch Coorong Mullet away from me! (and to think that I was just worried about my little cockles being taken away…)
So ~ it was ‘first’ Japan…….. and now they’ve seen the (nope, not gonna use that analogy, ’cause they’re fighting to take away logging from Mount Gambier…) they’ve ‘seen the error of their ways’ or whatever and now, Ian and I will be putting our skeptical mouths and hearts and minds into the battle that has quite literally landed at our front door.
So ~ please. Pray for us, okay guys?
Will check in to read and continue to be blessed by Anthony and others…
Cynthia Lauren Thorpe (thinking that ‘one, if by land…..two ‘if by sea’ ~ now means how many rods I can use once the ‘greenies’ come to Kingston to ‘discuss’ their new initiatives…Hossenfeffer, anyone??? warm smiles from a rarin’ to go Skeptic!)
Japan is so far up the creek without a paddle economically, I’m not at all surprised to hear this. Of course I also find it hilarious, given that they’re talking about the KYOTO protocol.
But “the harp that still” –
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/breaking-news/a-million-climate-change-deaths-by-2030/story-e6freoo6-1225965569585
“BY 2030, climate change will indirectly cause nearly one million deaths a year and inflict $US157 billion ($161.21 billion) in damage in terms of today’s economy, according to estimates presented at UN talks. “
Another Ian says: December 3, 2010 at 5:41 pm
………“BY 2030, climate change will indirectly cause nearly one million deaths a year and inflict $US157 billion ($161.21 billion) in damage in terms of today’s economy, according to estimates presented at UN talks. “
They are fond of regurgitating the good old mantra.
Merry Christmas!
tokyoboy says:
December 3, 2010 at 6:01 pm
“Another Ian says: December 3, 2010 at 5:41 pm
………“BY 2030, climate change will indirectly cause nearly one million deaths a year and inflict $US157 billion ($161.21 billion) in damage in terms of today’s economy, according to estimates presented at UN talks. “
They are fond of regurgitating the good old mantra.”
More like reading Chicken entrails to predict the future…
Jaye Bass says: (December 3, 2010 at 11:27 am) Stick a fork in it
You sure know how to write a grabber, Jaye — pulled me in and I’m pleased to have been hooked.
Epigenes 12/3/2010 2:26 am Anybody know how 2010 can be the hottest year on record when it has not ended?
I think that, at this point, statements to the effect that 2010 was/has been the warmest year on record should be read to mean that, so far, it has been the warmest on record, and December would have to be improbably cool to make 2010 other than the warmest on record. (I don’t know that it’s true. I’m just saying that’s how the statements should be read.)
However, it should be easy to see that there might be a very high likelihood that 2010 will be the warmest on record. For example, suppose that the annual anomaly is the average of 12 monthly anomalies. For it to be lower than the 11-month average, the 12th month anomaly must be lower than the 11-month average, and if the 11-month average is high enough, the 12th month anomaly would have to be improbably low to make the annual anomaly other than the warmest on record.
Many people who post comments on this blog seem to think that the warmist authorities are incredibly stupid. It’s not true!
“Anybody know how 2010 can be the hottest year on record when it has not ended?”
Haven’t been following along? OK, I’ll ‘splain how they does it.
1. Estimate temps for rest of year.
2. Calculate average for year, declare hottest based on estimates.
3. Record actual temps for balance of year, and at end of year…
4. Adjust them to match estimates.
5. Site match to estimates as proof adjustments are accurate.
In extreme cases where the recorded temps diverge so far from the estimates that they cannot be adjusted sufficiently, they may be replaced with tree rings.
If the world had not gone into an economic downturn Gore may have been upto one billion in wealth by now. I believe Japan is just pulling out for the economics, not bad science.
Looks like Japan just performed a preemptive strike on the IPCC anchorage!!
I think it was self defense this time though!!
Smoking Frog,
Actually, December would have to be exceptionally WARM to make this the warmest year!! November has already been exceptionally cold and the rest of the year has NOT exceeded 1998.
The tipping point has come and gone…
After Climategate, the warmers no longer have their soapbox to themselves, and with their mojo gone, they are being abandoned on all sides.
THEY DID IT TO THEMSELVES.
Climategate was even more of a watershed moment than WE thought.
Let’s give a big round of applause to:
Anthony Watts
Steve McIntyre
The CRU leaker.
HIP HIP HOORAY!
HIP HIP HOORAY!
HIP HIP HOORAY!
(can you imagine what is going through Michael Mann’s and James Hansen’s minds about now?… giggle giggle giggle)
biddyb says: December 3, 2010 at 6:55 am . “Some estimate that painting roofs a reflective white on Los Angeles properties would slow the rate of global warming in the city by 90 years.”
It’s better if you cite definitive research before making such “me too” statements. Can you tell us quantitatively where the rejected heat would go? Can you quote the present rate of global warming in Los Angeles city?
“European countries from this year have proposed that it could be okay to extend the commitment period of the Kyoto Protocol if it is joined by major emitters, but we have made clear that this is not acceptable,” Minamikawa told a news conference.”
You do realize that the warmists will jump on this, stating that it’s the US they’re talking about, not China.
Both China and India have been given passes. The world refuses to put limits on the “developing” nations, while recommending rationing for the rest of the world.
Feet2theFire says: December 3, 2010 at 10:47 pm
“(can you imagine what is going through Michael Mann’s and James Hansen’s minds about now?… giggle giggle giggle)”
Oh please don’t giggle too much. At least Hansen may now feel very very WARM after grasping (about a month ago) US$ 600,000 from a (stupid) Japanese Foundation:
http://www.af-info.or.jp/en/blueplanet/introduction.html
Shocking news. Look who’s greasing whose wheels for Cancun:
“EU hands China €500m clean tech loan
European Investment Bank provides financial backing for up to 15 low-carbon projects
The prospects of an international deal on new climate financing mechanisms received a boost earlier today, when the European Investment Bank (EIB) announced it has granted €500m (£425m) to China to support the development of low-carbon projects.”
http://www.businessgreen.com/bg/news/1930032/eu-hands-china-eur500m-clean-tech-loan
The scales start to fall from the eyes! What more can we hope for?
On SBS News tonight in Australia there seems to be some hint that many people are unconvinced human emissions of C02 are driving climate change. They still claim 2010 is se to be the warmest, or just to cover themselves claim it will be “one of the warmest etc etc…”, year on record even in the face of 130 year old cold record was broken in Wales (UK) this year, records of cold broken in many other NH countries this year and the coldest/wettest spring in NSW since 1999 and other sub-typial summer temeratures on the east coast. This cold trend has been going on at least 4 years, getting colder as each year passes.
Grey Lensman says: December 3, 2010 at 7:29 am
As an aside, can somebody please explain how a two degree rise in temperature is “catastrophic”.
My compliments to E.E. doc Smith. Mark Lynas’ book “Six Degrees” is excellent reading into what might be reasonably expected should temperature rise 1C, 2C, 3C etc. 1C – not a big problem. 2C – manageable problems (drawbacks and benefits). 3C – potentially intractable problems in many countries…
Ammonite
Thank you, so its not catastrophic, just a problem. In other words pure drama.
“Geoff Sherrington says:
December 3, 2010 at 10:51 pm
biddyb says: December 3, 2010 at 6:55 am . “Some estimate that painting roofs a reflective white on Los Angeles properties would slow the rate of global warming in the city by 90 years.”
It’s better if you cite definitive research before making such “me too” statements. Can you tell us quantitatively where the rejected heat would go? Can you quote the present rate of global warming in Los Angeles city?”
I was quoting the whole leader editorial in the Spectator – there are quotation marks around the whole article. I just thought it was interesting that I think/hope this is the beginning of a debate.
biddyb says:
December 4, 2010 at 2:07 am
Biddy, while the numbers are questionable, the concept of increasing albedo to decrease temperatures is well established. Furthermore, the concept is being muddled… how much of the warming LA experienced in the last 90 years do you think is do to UHI versus actual global warming. UHI would be depressed significantly if you changed all of the currently heat absorbing and then IR radiating roofs to reflective surfaces which would bounce off the shortwave radiation coming in, never creating LW to be absorbed by CO2/water and just bouncing off into space again.
Just imagine the effect that Tarmac has… now think if it was painted in a reflective color.
I’ve watched 2 days of BBC coverage of Cancun – no mention of the Japanese announcement and rejection of Kyoto, but lots of time spent looking at the Greenpeace hot air balloon.
Some of us are old enough to remember TASS, the good old Soviet Union news media organisation, for their comically one-sided and distorted “news”. Now is seems BBC is morphing into TASS.