GASP! Climate Change could ruin Thanksgiving

From the “nothing escapes the clutches of global warming” department comes this farce:

Here’s the ah, er, beef:

“Climate change could affect meat quality in two ways,” Gregory, a professor in animal welfare physiology at the University of London’s Royal Veterinary College, explains. “First, there are direct effects on organ and muscle metabolism during heat exposure which can persist after slaughter.”

As a second climate change impact, Gregory believes “changes in livestock and poultry management practices in response to hazards that stem from climate change could indirectly lead to changes in meat quality.”

Ummm, gosh. What did America do during the 1930’s? Buy all their meat in Canada?

Read the entire article here

h/t to WUWT reader “Rational Debate”

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107 thoughts on “GASP! Climate Change could ruin Thanksgiving

  1. Good Lord, I didn’t realize our climate had always been that stable…………..
    Who in this world do the morons that write this tripe believe they are writing it for?

  2. Well, may be “warmer temperatures” could have a negative impact on dinner (especially if the turkey is left out on the counter too long), but it sure seems to be getting colder — and I don’t mean winter is coming. I mean we’re having record low temperatures around here and I hear northwestern Europe is getting early heavy snow and the mid-west and east of the US is getting hit with nasty cold weather and so on.
    Is the author suggesting that from the mid 1970s to this decade Thanksgiving dinner has suffered terrible due to global warming? I didn’t notice. In fact, I’ve gotten better at cooking.
    The author at one point focused on water shortages. Have they not figured out yet that warmer does not mean drier?
    Happy Thanksgiving all!

  3. So you guys are copping the coldest, snowiest Thanksgiving in, what, 17 years?
    As the Wizard said in the Wizard of Oz, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

  4. I wonder if Prof. Gregory knows in how many ways cold stress will affect meat quality? Does he know that as atmospheric carbon dioxide goes up water use goes down? Does he know the latitudinal distribution of turkey production? Does he understand how easily it would be in principle to move these types of facilities? South central Washington and adjacent parts of Oregon are plenty stressful heat-wise during the growing season and crops do just fine. This man needs to get out of London more.

  5. Could the unshakable belief in anthropogenic global warming ^H^H^H^H^H^H climate change cause the downfall of traditional journalism?
    Read all about this horrifying modeling prediction on page 7.
    Frankengraphs, and how terrify innocent people, by Ray Bradley and PD Jones, page 8.

  6. The turkeys didn’t seem to enjoy the sleet this morning, but it was probably better than the man made Global Warming in my oven.
    Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

  7. There’s enough if’s and could’s in that article to fill a space cruiser.
    If an asteroid hit the Earth tomorrow, there could be no more Thanksgivings.

  8. It is already ruining the UK right now: “Schools closed as early widespread snowfall hits Britain”. “http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/nov/25/widespread-snowfall-hits-britain?
    They can celebrate Thanksgiving end of November already.

  9. “Climate change could affect meat quality in two ways,” Gregory, a professor in animal welfare physiology at the University of London’s Royal Veterinary College, explains.

    I note the use of the weasel word: ‘could’ in there … speaking of which, what’s for dinner?
    Happy Thanksgiving Anthony and crew!
    .

  10. A “professor in animal welfare physiology”
    Man, the warmists just keep piling up the highly-qualified experts, don’t they?

  11. Michael D Smith says:
    November 25, 2010 at 6:16 pm
    You’ll notice that most of these crazy stories don’t offer comments after the article.
    ===========================================
    Michael, that article has comments. Look at the very bottom of it.
    I can’t think of any “science” that has done more damage to science,
    than climate science……………….
    Well ok, those lawyer commercials immediately following the ‘drug de jour’ commercials doesn’t help either..
    “If you took this drug and experienced……..
    …….call us”

  12. Well, if the turkeys are going to change, I’m going to start eating Dolphins and Baby Seals on Thanksgiving.

  13. latitude says:
    November 25, 2010 at 5:41 pm
    Good Lord, I didn’t realize our climate had always been that stable…………..
    Who in this world do the morons that write this tripe believe they are writing it for?
    …The Congregation.
    Happy Thanksgiving!

  14. I wonder if this “professor” opens his mouth before changing feet? He does not appear to have any idea of the range of turkeys in the wild, nor that the European domestic turkeys are descended from the Mexican (or most southerly) sub-species.
    If a Mexican bird was adapted so well to domestication in northern England, why should it not be re-adapted to possible marginally warmer temperatures in the future?
    p.s. I understand that the domestic turkey bears little resemblance to its wild forebears, but this is due to selective breeding and dietary change.

  15. Happy Thanksgiving to Anthony and all.
    Cold weather on its way
    San Antonio Express-News
    Web Posted: 11/25/2010 5:19 PM CST
    Despite a sunny Thanksgiving that saw temperatures stretch into the mid-80s, a fierce cold front is expected to bring near-record weather to the area late this evening and into the weekend.
    Some parts of South Central Texas will experience freezing temperatures Thursday night, with parts of the Hill Country seeing temperatures in the upper 20s, according to National Weather Service Forecaster Pat McDonald. Light winds Friday night will likely increase the chill, prompting officials to issue a hard freeze warning for the area Friday night through Saturday.
    The area also will experience several hours of “subfreezing” temperatures, with the barometer dipping to the lower 20s and upper teens in some areas, the weather service said. Most parts of South Central Texas are guaranteed to experience temperatures at least between 25 and 30 degrees by Saturday morning.

    A little early for a hard freeze in S. TX.
    Last winter we had 4 nights in a row with a hard freeze, which was unusual.
    The 4P’s Drill: People, Pets, Pipes (drip the outside faucets), and Plants.

  16. Actually, China and India are going to drive up food prices. I can’t blame them for wanting good food, but it really won’t have anything to do with global warming or lack thereof.

  17. I once had a drill sergeant in the Army that would say something along the line of the following to the Discovery people.
    “You must be on dogfood private because not even crack wouldn’t make you that stupid.”
    The only words I removed from the quote… well, I will let you guess them.
    John Kehr
    The Inconvenient Skeptic

  18. Despite all the dire predictions, we had a wonderful Thanksgiving and Thanksgiving dinner.
    Thanks to all at WUWT for this wonderful blog and Happy Thanksgiving to all.

  19. Every time I see something like this article, I always write to the editor, something along the lines of…
    Dear Editor,
    Thank you for the (insert ridiculous scare) article.
    With belief in global warming fading fast amongst the public, articles like this simply reinforce the absurdity of the Warmist position.
    Keep up the good work etc…
    Boy does that annoy them!!!

  20. Idiots masquerading as humans! They don’t seem to know that warmer means longer summers and not so cold winters and, thus, a longer growing season and better crops. What’s the down side here?

  21. Is this Neville Gregory’s 15 minutes of fame ??
    I’m truly embarrassed for him. What a clown.

  22. Must be easy to get a job as a “journalist” these days. Can’t think of anything to write, just start with, “Climate change causes”………da da da!
    Ouch my big toe hurts, or whatever, must be caused by climate change.
    No wonder people are sick of this BS.
    Happy Thanksgiving our American friends, enjoy your juicy moist turkey.

  23. It’s even worse than that. All self-respecting Green-minded people need to give up their cellphones and wireless computer connections. The electromagnetic radiation is making trees sick, says a new study. Affects growth, hurts bark, kills leaves.
    Ultra-fine particles in vehicle exhaust may also be contributing. To help Save The World, CARB may be forced to require all fuel burning vehicles to run their exhaust through HEPA filters.
    Also, the expected food crises brought about by climate change may be exacerbated by the electromagnetic radiation, as well as there being a crippling of our ability to make inexpensive carbon-neutral biofuels. The study found the EM radiation could stunt the growth of corn cobs.
    It was done by Wageningen University, in the Netherlands. I think I found the abstract and other info here. Translating Dutch to English with Babel Fish, the title is “Trees have charge of electromagnetic radiation” so that’s probably it. Anyone who can provide an English translation or knows where an English version is, feel free to help out and post a link.
    Wow. To Save The Earth! eco-minded people have to give up the “smartphones” and wireless laptops they use to watch An Inconvenient Truth online. Al Gore will have to surrender his Blackberry. Ah heck, he can buy carbon credits for his jet use, but there are no “ultra-fine particulate” offsets. Oh no, without his jet he can’t get to Cancun in time to Save Humanity! We are all DOOMED.

  24. There will be advantages by 2035, the turkey will come precooked by the greenhouse oven thus a saving of energy.
    Enjoy your 2 star energy rated thanksgiving.Dam! we Aussies miss out.

  25. give thanx to Anthony for WUWT; if there was any such thing as a “free market”, your site would be plastered with advertising.
    give thanx to those who suggested books for the local library.
    give thanx to New Scientist for another cool headline!
    26 Nov: New Scientist: Ships and buoys made global warming look slower
    by Michael Marshall
    Claims that global warming has slowed down over the past decade were partly based on faulty data…
    So although the newer buoy measurements are more accurate, the switch in method has erroneously shown sea-surface temperatures appearing to level off.
    “Compared with ships, buoys show cooler temperatures,” says Vicky Pope at the Met Office. “You have to be careful of false signals.”..
    Part of the apparent slowdown in temperature rise does appear to be genuine, however…
    From now on climate measurements from the buoys will be “corrected” so that they can be compared with the decades of data from ship measurements, and vice versa.
    It’s not the first time measurements have had to be corrected: a change in how ships measured sea temperatures caused the apparent cooling in the 1940s.
    Journal reference: Remote Sensing of Environment, in press
    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19772-ships-and-buoys-made-global-warming-look-slower.html

  26. Now thats what I call a poultry excuse for an article… I wouldn’t even want to stuff my turkey with it..
    Happy Thanksgiving from down under; I’ll put a snag on for you..

  27. “agw” has certainly changed our thanksgiving – we had a cold front with snow come by on monday, and another snowfall today for a “white thanksgiving”.

  28. “Charles Higley says:
    November 25, 2010 at 8:19 pm
    Idiots masquerading as humans! They don’t seem to know that warmer means longer summers and not so cold winters and, thus, a longer growing season and better crops. What’s the down side here?”
    Shorter ski season?? 😀

  29. From Barry Day on November 25, 2010 at 8:47 pm:

    There will be advantages by 2035, the turkey will come precooked by the greenhouse oven thus a saving of energy.

    For Thanksgiving Day here in central Pennsylvania, the weather was early fluffy snow, followed by icy particles that bounced, followed by rain. Now late at night, there is even more rain.
    Sad to say, the turkeys in the solar cookers did not fare well. Ed Begley Jr would be disappointed.

  30. I’ll bet you deniers will claim that even Bigfoot is not threatened by Anthropogenic Global Climate Disruption–huh, huh?

  31. I’m waiting for the media over here to start reporting that the unseasonably early snows now dumping on Britain and forecast to keep it up in to next week is down to catastrophic global climate change.
    The only issue the mainstream media will focus on however is the impact it may or may not have on shopping days to Christmas.

  32. “Wucash says:
    November 25, 2010 at 9:24 pm”
    Not too long ago The MET stated that snow would be a thing of the past. That’s funny as the last two winters in the UK have been cold, that is RECORD COLD, like ~30 year+ cold records broken. And last winter with a satelite image of the entire British isles covered in snow.
    I would not worry too much about what The MET says about 2010, it’s not even over yet, but still they make rediculous claims. Most people I know in the UK just ignore these statements. And this years winter in the UK is looking to be very very cold.

  33. Next up – – Christmas and the effects of global warming…
    Global warming could melt the North Pole, forcing Santa Claus to relocate to northern Greenland. The even bigger danger might be to his reindeer, as they may no longer be able to fly.
    And then, OMG, New Year’s Eve…
    Global warming could devastate the champagne region of France, destroying its ability to grow grapes. No more true champagne. Just plain old ordinary bubbly wine.
    Global warming could devastate all our holidays! Is nothing sacred??

  34. Every article of this nature is another nail in the coffin of the credibility of the climate change movement.
    I wonder if they have any idea of how inane stories like this affect peoples perception of how seriously they should take the threat of climate change.

  35. Could it be that I counted eight appearances of the “could” in this article? Who could’ve paid for this research? Could I go crazy if I could read any more of this cr*p?

  36. I have to say that I prefer Bertand Russell’s refutable syllogism, ‘All swans are white,’ to the namby pamby dry and pasty turkeys of these global warmist Aristotles: ‘All Thanksgiving Day turkeys *could eventually* be affected by climate change.’

  37. As long as they keep saying “it could” then they can’t be wrong. The problem is that some people read these articles and think “it will”. That’s the mistake.

  38. In other news climate change threatens Christmas,
    Santa, a north pole dwelling giver of presents stated that optimal conditions for raindeer flight was at risk from rising temperatures. Also indirect bullish*t levels from Al Gore, Real Climate and UEA were causing the condition to accelerate due to unprecedented levels of methane!
    Thousands of children already scared to death by stories of drowning puppies are said to be very worried and that it’s worse than they thought.

  39. charles nelson [November 25, 2010 at 8:09 pm] says:
    “Every time I see something like this article, I always write to the editor, something along the lines of…
    Dear Editor,
    Thank you for the (insert ridiculous scare) article.
    With belief in global warming fading fast amongst the public, articles like this simply reinforce the absurdity of the Warmist position.
    Keep up the good work etc…
    Boy does that annoy them!!!”

    I like it. Good thinking!

  40. Just another poop in the rolling concerted programme of “climate”-related scare stories in the run up to Cancun. Hilarious to hear Prof Jones of CRU announce the “warmest year” since 1830 in the middle of a snowstorm.
    However, if it were even vaguely true (ie not the warmest airport tarmac since 1830) we should all be glad to returning to the balmy pre-industrial climate of the early 19th century.
    I wonder if they’ll learn and start holding climate summits in August?

  41. This belongs to the school of: “there’s two inches of column that needs filling … find something to fill it right now!”
    Some wet behind the nose third rate journalist then desperately tries to think of something to write about, they remember the catch phrase “the biggest problem facing mankind”, they then try to make it topical and then quickly find some way to link global boring with the date.
    How this piece got past any editor is beyond belief … clearly the proper editor must have been doing something better that day!

  42. We raised some very tasty turkeys on our farm in Central Africa.
    It isn’t cold in Central Africa!
    Happy Thanksgiving to all at WUWT from Southern England, where it is -2C this morning.

  43. Happy Thanksgiving, Anthony and crew.
    Stupidity such as the above ‘scientist’s’ coulds and maybes are undoubtedly a major cause for the general public’s growing awareness of the stupid idea that warmer will be bad for us.
    When I was a teenager in rural NZ, we were occasionally given a dressed wild turkey by farming clients. My mother, a brilliant cook who hated wasting anything, was wonderful at turning out broken-mouthed ewe (old!) from our wood-fired oven as tender as Spring lamb, but even she struggled to make those huge, muscular and stringy birds palatable. Years later, after turkey breeding for the table had become an industry, we very cautiously bought one and cooked a traditional Thanksgiving dinner for American colleagues. What a difference from those wild birds of my youth. Turkey has been on our Christmas menu ever since.

  44. One comment said that we could eat cockroaches for Thanksgiving. I wouldn’t like that so much, because they have little breast meat and they cook so fast you wouldn’t even have time to mash the potatoes. Cockroaches have more leg meat, so those who like leg meat could have cockroach.
    Apart from that I feel sorry for these turkeys. For the birds too.

  45. Hmm, -10 degrees and 25++ cm of snow. The last ten years snow on christmas has been uncertain (maybe 50/50). I´m more worried about climate cooling (as Bilderberg seems to be too).

  46. He should try Free Range Organic. They are really tough, all that extra charging about the fields builds up a lot of stringy muscle.

  47. The US gets few holidays and on the biggest holiday, Thanksgiving, Discovery is selling “Misery & Guilt”.
    This is the common denominator with all the people involved in Warmism. The journalists, the junk scientists, the political believers, they all have only one weapon in their armoury:
    Invoking righteous guilt & misery on others.
    ***k these misery creating scumbags. On the scale of things Scrooge will soon be made a Saint.

  48. Coming up Christmas, expect the next doomsday syllogism relating to Xmas puddings, “The Great Xmas Pudding Scare,” and Christmas Tree Proxy Temperature Readings, (HO, HO, HO.) :(o(

  49. “Warmer temperatures can impact Turkey meat texture, apperance and taste.”
    No kidding! It’s called over cooking, my oven’s a bitch for doing that. Ah well! Turkey in, carbon out. At least we had turkey feet and chips. 🙂

  50. This is what you get when you are on the low end of “totem pole” of the group in the news department that’s gotta grind out something, and assigned to write this year a “topical” theme for Thanksgiving. What else has been in the news (?) – if you are lazy, and have no creative writing bent, this article is the typical result. Bad, really bad.

  51. Ok, hey, now, all you blokes and folks just fussing about the snow and cold and stuff, now you just stop it!! Its already been declared many a time that this is the warmest year on record. The science is settled, there is a consensus, don’t’cha know? Besides, turkey will come next year pre-cooked via solar mechanism that will, unfortunately, also result in a much drier meat, but we’ll put bows on them or something to make up for it, promise. But right now you all are clearly just being woosies and girly-men, carrying on about white stuff and slippery stuff when the world has already been declared to be WARMER by any number of keen sincere climate scientists who really really want to save the Earth. So, just knock it off, take some meds or sumptin’ would ya? Ya, and thanks for all the fish!
    Happy Thanksgiving All!!
    p.s., and on a more serious note, thanks to so many above for providing any number of good giggles and several belly laughs just reading thru the comments on this thread!

  52. Happy thanksgiving Anthony, mods and commentors.
    All you turkey lovers may like to know that last week my local RSPCA asked me to take on a rescued turkey. He is now Mr Bojangles, has settled in well with Vinnie (Diesel) the rooster and his ladies.
    I didn’t realise turkeys were so aggressive, but he makes a good watchdog. (I now realise where the term “turkey slap” comes from) (:0)
    He’ll live a good long life, despite global warming

  53. Mike Haseler says:
    November 26, 2010 at 12:51 am
    How this piece got past any editor is beyond belief … clearly the proper editor must have been doing something better that day!
    He was probably on the WC!! That would be better than producing a journal staffed by these idiots.

  54. Anthony
    Can I just say, a very merry thanksgiving to you, your familly and more especially your wife. Following what I know was a traumatic and difficult year your ‘team’ have allowed you to keep this site going and going strong.
    Enjoy the baked pomme de terre, succulent dinde and the chou de Bruxelles.

  55. Patrick Davis says:
    November 25, 2010 at 10:43 pm
    Worried? I’m not as worried as I am deeply annoyed. What the beeb and Met Office did was release this info early because they know this winter will be a cold one again. It’s more “credible” to release it just after a warm autum instead of during/after a long, cold, snowy winter. It makes it worse that as a taxpayer who pays for the Met Office (part of the MOD) and licence payer (tv licence for the BBC), I have no say in how either these are run, and see these organisations be used to spin this AGW idea forward. Ideally I’d like these two to be neutral, which is something the BBC was supposed to be doing anyway.

  56. One more thing, given that turkeys are grown under a roof under highly controlled conditions, it will be the dry cold that kills off these genetically fragile birds as ice build-up sucks water out of the major water byways, reducing electricity generation, ground water, and drinking water.
    However, the wild turkey population is just peachy keen and will survive just fine. And I know where to find’m, how to shoot’m, how to dress’m up, and then roast’m.

  57. ooh! ooh! Just read some of the other comments. Pan fried or roasted salted insects are delicious! Better than pumpkin seeds to my way of thinkin.

  58. Ian what chew talkin ’bout??? Dried out turkey my ass. My oven is 50 degrees hotter than it should be and I put in a turkey yesterday that was frozen in the middle (don’t give me any of your guff, there was no place in Wallowa County you could thaw the damned thing out).
    I kept a steady vigil on the oven temp (it’s an old oven and nothing but the oven bottom coil works), keeping it as low as possible to get the thing cooked, draped the upside in cheesecloth soaked in butter, cranberry sauce and sherry, filled the downside pan with broth, and basted every half hour. It was an 8.8 lbs bird and took 4 hours to get done. The result was a mouth watering juicy slice’o heaven.

  59. this sounds so typical. The climate of today (2010) is perfect for everything. Its the optimum climate for humans. Any change will bring negative results.

  60. Stuff this for a lark!
    this sounds like something that suzuki character would spout off – while having several large turkeys on order! – mind, its all gobbledygook to me!

  61. People are truly amazing. It’s incredible, but they can be happy with the meagerist of morsels and be thankful. No matter the climate durning the next Glactic Year (~250million Earth years), if they’re still around, I’ll just bet they give thanks for what they have by enjoying whatever they have.
    Who would have thought that some poor Pilgrims and some kind hearted American Natives would have enjoyed a few beans, squash, fish, berries, a pumpkin or three, and some stringy old-and-slow wild turkeys, and given thanks for what they had. Incredible! Yep! If folks only have a little, they’re ususally thankful they have at least that, and not less.

  62. Yes, climate change could ruin Thanksgiving.
    Frozen turkey, frozen beans, frozen pumpkin pie…

  63. “changes in livestock and poultry management practices in response to hazards that stem from climate change could indirectly lead to changes in meat quality.”
    As opposed to the direct changes in price and quality that will be wrought by the extreme legislation aimed at preventing climate change?

  64. I can hardly wait to read how it will wreck Christmas. I can imagine the headline though; “White Christmas? Not Even in Your Dreams”. Chestnuts will have gone the way of the Dodo, and open fires will have been banned long ago by the green Police.

  65. “You’ll notice that most of these crazy stories don’t offer comments after the article.”
    —–
    And if you read the comments at the end of THIS article, you can understand why.
    Anthony, tell me those weren’t all you!

  66. Torgeir Hansson says:
    November 26, 2010 at 1:24 am
    Apart from that I feel sorry for these turkeys. For the birds too.
    ——————
    Like the humour!

  67. @Smokey
    Poor communication on my part – I was referring to the article that this one is about. The comments had me laughing more than the article itself 🙂

  68. Yeah, seems pretty much like a scare tactic article, lol. Silly reporting, basically like “Eh, just tell them it will ruin thanksging…”
    Of course, with that said it is unusually warm right now, compared to normal 😉

  69. It could be that if temperatures rise there may be a slight change in meat quality. Or less water could push up costs. Both are far less likely than the article suggests. What has happened is that world food prices have risen dramatically as a result of ethanol production. The preventative medicine looks to be far more harmful that the disease.

  70. “Wucash says:
    November 26, 2010 at 5:46 am”
    I am British myself, so yes I do know how [/sarc on] effective your tax pounds are spent at the BBC (Top Gear is worth the fee, ok I don’t pay it any more, IMO) and The MET [/sarc off]. Unfortunately, as we all know, just as the ABC in Aus is the Govn’t public spin Dr, so too is the Beeb. The Beeb was great, once, but it knows where it’s money comes from, it won’t bite the hand that feeds it (And you all MSUT pay your fee, captive income source. Bit like carbon taxes).
    The whole week here in Aus has been, almost, totally void of news items about climate change. We usually get at least 2 mentions per day in the SMH, on ABC and other newscasts. We’ve had ZERO coverage on Cancun, in complete contrast to coverage of Copenhagen last year. I think (I am hoping, but I won’t hold me breath) our “masters” are getting the message that we’ve been fooled long enough.
    “john ratcliffe says:
    November 26, 2010 at 5:50 am”
    I used to like his fowl products.

  71. They aren’t meant to be scientific articles. They are advertisements for cap & trade. Think about it. Where do they appear? Who “owns” them? You don’t think Big Climate is going to give up on their golden goose this easily, just because the carbon market collapsed, do you?

  72. “Michael D Smith says:
    November 26, 2010 at 9:59 pm
    They aren’t meant to be scientific articles. They are advertisements for cap & trade.”
    In this case, not even that: just the sordid quest for publication and/or grants. Propose work on “Mating Habits of Central Asian Ground Squirrels” and expect nothing but rejection letters. But propose “Effects of Global Climate Change on Mating Habits of Central Asian Ground Squirrels”- NOW you’ve got a hot topic and you’re in like Flynn.

  73. “Pasty, dry turkey meat…”
    No need to wait for global warming, just go over to my in-laws house for dinner!
    Hope you all had a great day, I’ll need a few days to recover!

  74. Firstly, I must apologise if I step on anyone’s toes with this response – I admit to skipping all the comments (need to catch up!).
    However, what really strikes me about this post is that the author is a professor! Of what, I am unsure, but what does prevail is the unremitting bs that is being flung around these days under the auspices of academe. The money involved is absurd, and the political persuasion of some academics, let alone their qualifications must surely be in question.

  75. Check with “Dr History” aka DrCharlieself.com
    This guy knows more history than I thought there was.

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