Climate Wars: Nick Stern Threatens U.S. With Trade Boycott
Ben Webster
The United States will be banned from selling goods to many countries if it continues to shirk its promise to cut greenhouse gas emissions, according to the world’s leading climate change economist.
In an interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said that nations that were taking strong action on emissions could start imposing restrictions on “dirty” US exports by 2020.
Lord Stern, who advises several G20 leaders and is one of the key players in the international negotiations seeking a deal on emissions, made his comments ten days before the annual United Nations climate change conference opens in Cancun, Mexico. They reflect the feeling in many countries that a lack of action on emissions in the US is delaying progress in the talks.
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Lord Stern said that Europe and the Far East (sic) were forging ahead of the US in controlling emissions and switching to low carbon sources of energy. They would not tolerate having their industries undermined by American competitors that had not paid for their emissions. “If you are charging properly for carbon and other people are not, you will take that into account,” he said. “Many of the more forward-looking people in the US are thinking about this. If they see a danger on the trade front to US exports that could influence public discussion.”
Asked what type of US products could face restrictions, Lord Stern said: “Aircraft, clearly, some cars, machine tools — it’s not simply what’s in the capital good, it’s what kind of processes the capital good is facilitating.”
Lord Stern said that a complete ban on some goods was also possible. He said the American people should overcome their historical antipathy to taxation and accept that emissions needed to be controlled either through a tax or a trading scheme.
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Peter Miller says:
November 19, 2010 at 3:07 pm
“I also have some Stern-like ideas.
The British parliament repeals the North America Act, so America is once again a colony.
Then the Brits send a gunboat to enforce re-colonisation….”
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You are about one hundred years too late. The Brits (Bank of England) sent Paul Warburg to confiscate all of the wealth from the USA and has done a bang-up job of it.
Congressman McFadden: Remarks in Congress, 1934
“….The statement that it is necessary for the people to give their gold- the only real money- to the banks in order to protect the currency, is a statement of calculated dishonesty!
“By his unlawful usurpation of power on the night of March 5, 1933, and by his proclamation, which in my opinion was in violation of the Constitution of the United States, Roosevelt divorced the currency of the United States from gold, and the United States currency is no longer protected by gold. It is therefore sheer dishonesty to say that the people’s gold is needed to protect the currency.
“Roosevelt ordered the people to give their gold to private interests- that is, to banks, and he took control of the banks so that all the gold and gold values in them, or given into them, might be handed over to the predatory International Bankers who own and control the Fed.
“Roosevelt cast his lot with the usurers. “He agreed to save the corrupt and dishonest at the expense of the people of the United States.
“He took advantage of the people’s confusion and weariness and spread the dragnet over the United States to capture everything of value that was left in it. He made a great haul for the International Bankers.
“The Prime Minister of England came here for money! He came here to collect cash.
“He came here with Fed Currency and other claims against the Fed which England had bought up in all parts of the world. And he has presented them for redemption in gold.
“Mr. Chairman, I am in favor of compelling the Fed to pay their own debts. I see no reason why the general public should be forced to pay the gambling debts of the International Bankers…..” http://hiwaay.net/~becraft/mcfadden.html
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Are they kidding?
DesertYote says:
November 19, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Al Gored
November 19, 2010 at 3:01 pm
I wonder who the world’s leading unicorn ranching economist is?
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That would be Gregg Gutfeld.
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That guy is a riot! “And if you disagree with me, you’re a (fill in the blank)phobe!
Come on now folks.
Relax.
That’s just a joke in poor taste.
Just a joke.
Grrr, Marxist not Maxist
My company sells a lot to the US. Ironically mostly technologies that measure temperatures (infrared)!
This is absolutely nothing to do with nationality and everything to do with the worldwide attempt by a political and financial clique, of all races and nations, to rip the rest of the world off through ‘the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life’ , as Prof. Lewis said. The cabal of crimatologists is international. I might just as well regard all you Yanks as just the same as Mann, Romm, Hansen etc.
Let’s get real, we all have to see past that rubbish and make sure we win this struggle against the agw cult. Any RC troll reading this post and its comments will be sniggering at how easily the sceptics are diverted from the real issue and squabble over irrelevant trivia. UK, US, Oz, NZ, Canada, Europe, etc., we’re all trying to find ways to stop these cynical tricksters. Can we stop slagging each other off please? Oh, and I have no intention of apologising for Stern, I despise these people, they don’t represent me.
North of 43 and south of 44 says: November 19, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Would one of you fine folks over the other side of the pond show his lordship back to his nursing home.
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Unfortunately, with the Climate Change Act being passed with next to no dissent, and other nonsense such as the Large Plant Directive from the EU being enforced, Stern is not alone in his lunacy. Anyway, he is in a nursing home – we call it the House of Lords.
You can see the same contagious insanity with your crowd, but they seem to have more natural resistance and there are signs that the epidemic has peaked.
The United States will be banned from selling goods to many countries if it continues to shirk its promise to cut greenhouse gas emissions, according to the world’s leading climate change economist.
The “world’s leading climate change economist” sounds about as rational as the “world’s leading climate change scientists”. Were they to succeed, there either wouldn’t be any “goods” to sell, or else no one would be able to buy them anyway.
Peter Miller says:
November 19, 2010 at 3:07 pm
“Then the Brits send a gunboat to enforce re-colonisation.”
You’ve obviously not been following the UK MOD funding debacle.
http://www.insidermedia.com/insider/south-west/41418-/
“Companies related to the defence sector in the South West are being urged to expand into the green energy sector following the government’s decision to cut the Ministry of Defence’s budget by 8 per cent over the next four years.”
I don’t think the British Government will be in a position to send anything but a broken down windmill.
Complete nonsense from Lord Stern but if they do it would be the best thing for the US in the long run. We’ll simply put a trade embargo on their products and balance our budget for a change.
Someone mentioned this earlier. Hilarious and very on the button today.
Speaking of Gutfield,
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/red-eye/index.html#/v/4422811/study-links-secondhand-smoke-to-hearing-loss/?playlist_id=161695
GW even mentioned. Great watch! They understand correlation and causation.
Try another UK viewpoint on the issue
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100064423/on-the-anniversary-of-climategate-the-watermelons-show-their-true-colours/
Isn’t Stern a Club of Rome member?
According to the following article Lord Stern doesn’t have to worry about America because Obama won’t run for President a second time. He is done …
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/30140
@roger Longstaff
Sorry, Stern and Brown didn’t get along well.
They each thought the other was an idiot.
Worryingly, they were both right.
And if you want insanity about the UK armed forces, try asking why they would buy a military transport that is inferior in every way to the US offering, and many times the price.
You may also consider that there are two aircraft carriers under construction, and no aircraft to fly from them, and no money to buy any when they are finally built: And worse, no catapults have been included in the design so anything other than VSTOL will not be able to fly fromm them, and the UK VSTOL (Harrier) is being pensioned-off.
Insanity is not just the sport of economists.
I love the irony. Britain’s only true gains in cutting co2 emissions have come from converting their energy source from coal to natural gas and then outsourcing their manufacturing to India and China where they primarily use coal. Even the Guardian now recognises that if emissions are calculated from imports there has been no reduction in emissions.
I see someone beat me to it, nonetheless, pls take note of where Carbon is on the Periodic Table of the Elements re: conductive characteristics …
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Hmmm….: In any potential ”trade war” between a few countries in western Europe and the U.S., Canada, China, India, Russia, et. al.: Who do y’all think is gonna come out on the short end of the stick ?? Bet I know the answer. . . .
Oh brother more tales from ‘the far side’ … re: ‘confiscation’, please explain Michael Dell, Bill Gates, The “Oracle of Omaha” (Buffet) ?
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UK commenters, please don’t apologize.
After all, we have Gore, don’t we? And others!
I was discussing this with my daughter, and she mentioned the following:
I have to say she may be on to something, as there certainly may be some car doors slamming in the streets of Brentford tonight! 😀
JEM
November 19, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Cool, Thanks for the information. The author of the book I was referring to, Crawford Kilian, uses a lot of historic references in his writing.
Michaelangelo was allowed to touch his own art to see if it was dry.
I think you will find Michaelangelo’s fingerprints on the art he created.
Look for it and you will find those prints.
Still, to this day, they will deny someone like Jessee Ventura from filming at JFK’s grave. Now Whatts that all about?