Canadian Senate kills climate change bill

Via CBC News, what a great irony for Climategate day:

Senate kills climate change bill

Last Updated: Wednesday, November 17, 2010

The Canadian Press

Senators have voted down an opposition bill to tackle climate change with just days to go before another round of United Nations talks in Mexico.

NDP Leader Jack Layton, whose party introduced the bill, says it’s “outrageous” an unelected Senate can kill what he says is important legislation.

The bill — the Climate Change Accountability Act — has spent the last year or so bouncing between the full House of Commons and its environment committee. The vote was late Tuesday.

The legislation calls for greenhouse gases to be cut 25 per cent below 1990 levels by 2020.

That’s more stringent than the Harper government’s goal of a 17 per cent emissions cut from 2005 levels by 2020, which is in line with the Obama administration’s targets in the United States.

Delegates from nearly 200 countries will meet in the resort town of Cancun later this month and try to broker an international climate-change deal.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/11/17/senate-climate-bill.html#ixzz15Z4F3lHv

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h/t to a bunch of people who read WUWT, so many I couldn’t choose who to credit with a hat tip, soo I’ll hat tip you all.

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James Sexton
November 17, 2010 12:11 pm

Just another nail!!!!

Al Gored
November 17, 2010 12:12 pm

Obviously all these Senators must be jailed!!!
“Update: February 10, 2008: Canadian Environmentalist David Suzuki Calls for skeptical leaders to be thrown ‘into jail’ – Excerpt: At a Montreal conference last Thursday, the prominent scientist, broadcaster and Order of Canada recipient exhorted a packed house of 600 to hold politicians legally accountable for what he called an intergenerational crime. […] “What I would challenge you to do is to put a lot of effort into trying to see whether there’s a legal way of throwing our so-called leaders into jail because what they’re doing is a criminal act,” said Dr. Suzuki, a former board member of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association. “It’s an intergenerational crime in the face of all the knowledge and science from over 20 years.”

David, UK
November 17, 2010 12:14 pm

“Killing Bill C-311 shows a fundamental lack of respect for the many Canadians who care deeply about climate change. They had a right to have this bill debated properly,” Mitchell said in a news release.
NOW they want a debate?

latitude
November 17, 2010 12:14 pm

wws says:
November 17, 2010 at 10:19 am
So who’s going to volunteer to destroy their economies and give up all their jobs in order to benefit these countries which are thumbing their noses at the rest of them?
No one, that’s who.
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Obama and the rest of the socialist democrats.
Stop thinking they are on your side, they are not. They are promoting their
agenda first and don’t care about economies and jobs.

mike g
November 17, 2010 12:19 pm

Funny that I read a lot of AGW’er musing that democracy is the problem and that maybe it’ll take a benevolent dictatorship to save us. Now, they’re complaining “an un-elected Senate” could thwart the will of the people…

RichieP
November 17, 2010 12:23 pm

Wonderful, wonderful news, a thorough two-fingered salute to the whole despicable scam. I have only one question for you Canadian readers. Here in the UK we have something called the Parliament Act which allows, in extremis, the elected house to overturn blocking decisions in our equally unelected upper house. It’s almost never used but has certainly been considered in some recent legislation, where the Lords were repeatedly rejecting government bills. Does Canada have a similar provision and, if so, is it likely to be used?

Fred . . .
November 17, 2010 12:26 pm

had this law been passed, our Prime Minister could have risen in the House of Commons and delivered a speech like this one . . .
In order to comply with the Bill and Kyoto, it is necessary to take some drastic measures to either reduce emissions I Canada.
Canada got hosed at Kyoto. Jean Chretien’s Liberal government signed Canada to a treaty that means we must reduce our standard of living in order to comply. This Bill further obligates Canada to reduce its economy in order to comply and because of the way the Bill is worded, our Government must achieve the drastic reductions.
I am instructing a number of government department and agencies to enact the following emergency measure so that we can comply with the will of Parliament, or at least the Liberal, NDP and Bloc Quebecois parts of parliament.
1. Immediate shutdown of all coal fired power plants in Canada. We realize that this will hit Ontario very hard – 1/3 of Ontario’s electricity is coal generated, but look on the bright side, the lack of power will also cause the shutdown of thousands of plants and factories, throwing hundreds of thousands out of work. While we are it, we’ll close down all the top ten GhG emitters, as researched by Pollution Probe, listed below:
Rank Company Name Province
1 Ontario Power Generation On
2 Transalta Utilities AB
3 Sask Power SK
4 Alberta Power Corp AB
5 Nova Scotia Power Inc NS
6 Syncrude Canada Ltd. AB
7 Suncor Energy inc. Oil Sands AB
8 EPCOR Generation Inc. AB
9 Petro-Canada AB
10 Dofasco Inc. On
2. Immediate shutdown of the entire Petroleum industry across Canada – we will need to import our oil but we are only going to import oil from countries that will sell us Kyoto Credits. Besides we won’t need gas or oil because we won’t have the money to buy these big GhG emitters.
3. Immediately ban all wood burning fireplaces, charcoal and propane BBQ’s and summer campfires. All recreational vehicles and activities are deemed frivolous and will be banned. Sorry Bombardier, you are jusr screwed. No more skidoos and water jet boats. We are investigating how to ban forest fires as well, but that has its challenges.
4. A 50 cent per litre “GhG Kyoto Credit Buying Tax. Based on recent data that we use about 45 Billion liters of gasoline every year, this new tax revenue should make up the shortfall in general tax revenues caused by the overall collapse of the Canadian economy caused by the cheap political theatrics of the NDP. It will not make up for the billions in lost income taxes the Federal and Provincial governments will not collect by the 35% contraction of our economy we need to achieve to be Kyoto compliant.
5. We will not be able to afford generous Employment Insurance support for all the laid off workers because the numbers will reach in the millions. Shutting down the oil sands alone will result in huge job losses in Alberta, but also in Quebec and Ontario, where tens of thousands of workers make the pipes, valves, machinery, trucks, tires, computers and other equipment that would have been purchased had we not put these actions in place to meet the requirements of the Bill’s Law of Unintended Consequences. Shutting down the transportation industry will also be hard on employment, but we haven’t had time yet to count how many truck drivers there are in Canada, so we can’t tell you yet how many of their jobs will be toast.
6. For the tens of thousands of workers in the Financial sector, we are aware that the mortgage and credit crisis these moves will cause will result in the devastation of your industry as well, but we expect that the Barons of Bay street will be able to salvage a few jobs scamming a few bucks in the International Carbon Credit Trading Market, or as some have come to call it, the Kyoto Hot Air Credit Socialist Money Sucking Ponzi Scheme. Hopefully you will be one of the few out of the tens of thousands Financial Sector workers who will get one of these new jobs – you might even make megatonnes of money.
7. Since there will be a huge rise in the number of corporate and personal bankruptcies, our government will be enacting new legislation to simplify the process. Simply nail a sign to the front door of your home saying “WE QUIT” or for consumer debt, place your cut up credit and bank cards in an envelope and mail them to Pablo Rodriguez. That’s all, no lawyers or courts needed
8. We will also be reducing the size of the federal government payroll by at least 50% to meet the requirement to keep the budget balanced to the new and much lower levels of Federal revenues. That should be a few hundred thousand fewer Civil Servants at the Federal Level and many, many more at the Provincial level. We understand this will devastate the economy of Ottawa, but what the Hell, the rest of Canada doesn’t care about what happens in Moonbat Land sur Rideau, so no worries. To the 250,000 or so Civil Servants who will lose their ticket to the Golden Pension Plan, tough shit.
9. We will be forced to make massive reductions to the Federal government’s transfer of Social Services & Health dollars to the provinces to fit within the new fiscal capabilities of Canada’s Federal government. We will leave it up to individual provinces to decide to close schools or hospitals, or both, or whatever. It’s a provincial responsibility, but at the very least, expect much longer waits for even basic medical service. Since Canada, in addition to using “more than our fair share of Carbon” also uses more than “our fair share of global health care”, it’s about time we cut back, suffered more, did away with excessive health care and just suffered along with the rest of the world.
Its not all bad news. Canada should be able to save a fortune in Immigration costs. We have a forecast from government experts that Canada will go to last place in the quest for skilled immigrant labour. Somehow they don’t want to come to a country with power shortages, no air conditioning, limited winter heating, no jobs a Health Care system modeled on Zimbabwe and a devastated economy. Go figure.
Mr. Speaker, let me close by thanking the Liberals, especially Mr Chretien who’s stupidity, ego and driving need to buy himself a political “good-guy” legacy got us into this mess and of course the NDP for devastating our economy and depressing our standard of living to upper third world status.
As we huddle in the cold and swelter in the summer heat, as we stare at our old car we can’t afford to drive, as we fondly remember how hard it was to get out of bed on a Monday morning to go to the job we used to have, we can take pride in being the best-est, wonderful-est, the most moral-est international goody-goody boy scout country supporting the great socialist ponzi scheme called Kyoto and proving we are doing our part to help the planet be saved.
Thank you Mr. Speaker

Ken Boldt
November 17, 2010 12:26 pm

While I am glad that this bill was not passed, because of the content, the abuse of power, and hypocrisy of the Harper government is disgusting. This is a complete slap in the face to democracy.
You may not agree with the decisions of Parliament, they may pass some boneheaded bills, such as this one, but the fact is, they are our elected officials. They are representing the voice of the majority of people in this country, and that is what democracy is all about. To turn around, and conspire to kill a bill that was passed by the elected officials, especially when you have blathered on for years about the Senate and how undemocratic it is, is simply disgusting.
Yes we dodged a bullet on the climate shackle front, but we were hit by a much bigger bullet on the democracy front.
For the record, I am politically agnostic.

Dr T G Watkins
November 17, 2010 12:27 pm

The experiment with ‘renewables’ is an excellent idea as long as those in favour of Alice in Wonderland energy policies agree to be the first to be cut or rationed when the wind doesn’t blow or the sun fails to shine, rarely of course in Canada or the UK.
If a ‘parliament’ passes such a bill then the representatives and all government institutions should be the first to suffer candles and cold showers.

Bryan A
November 17, 2010 12:29 pm

Maybe it will snow in Cancun that day… I guess they didn’t want to chance another Copenhagen

RichieP
November 17, 2010 12:30 pm

Sorry, I think I’ve now answered my own question by realising that it was the opposition’s bill rather than the government’s (my initial joy made me skim rather than read properly). In that case, even if there were an equivalent of the Parliament Act in Canada it would be used only after the majority government’s defeat.

DirkH
November 17, 2010 12:31 pm

It’s worrying that the will of the parliament – reflecting the will of the population – to destroy the economy has not been heeded. If a democracy wants to commit suicide, unelected bodies shouldn’t stop it from doing so. According to opinion polls, 2013 Germany will have a Green government. And as we Germans are notorious for our penchant for self-destruction, i’m optimistic we’ll see it happen. Bye bye, industrial powerhouse, welcome, green serfdom.

Editor
November 17, 2010 12:32 pm

wws says:
November 17, 2010 at 10:19 am
Excellent! Now the list of usual suspects are going to have to figure out how to try to come up with a deal at Cancun knowing that the US, Canada, and France have already opted out. Oh, and China and India were out in any practical sense long ago.

Sad to say New Zealand already has – the price of having proportional representation in our one house – a small minority Green Party calls the shots on this tiny Country’s economic future decline…..
Andy

pwl
November 17, 2010 12:33 pm

Thankfully the C-311 Bill was killed as CO2 is an Essential Nutrient for Green Life.
Canadian Senator Grant Mitchell talks about Bill C-311 back in June.

Daryl M
November 17, 2010 12:34 pm

This may well be the first time Canadian history that the Senate has done something useful.

Alan
November 17, 2010 12:34 pm

You are being naive my friends. The powerful green lobby will ramp up the rhetoric and stage a couple of well publicized protests, with the help of the media as always. Then the House of Commons will have no choice (!) but to reintroduce another version of the bill. It’s just delayed.

November 17, 2010 12:36 pm

Now it is time for the rest of the world to step up to the plate and end this imaginary and ill conceived never proven threat of global warming caused by manmade greenhouse gases. There are much bigger world isssues that need our financial support.

mike g
November 17, 2010 12:39 pm

John A says:
November 17, 2010 at 11:28 am
Meanwhile what do I do about my own Parliament which voted virtually unanimously to cut CO2 emissions by 80% by 2050?
You may have to do what we did in 1774

November 17, 2010 12:40 pm

Paul Westhaver says:
November 17, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Perhaps it has something to do with the north magnetic pole leaving Canada and going to Russia….:-)

Craig Goodrich
November 17, 2010 12:43 pm

One thing I’m not sure of — are we overstating the impact of this on the long-suffering Canadians?
Canada is already “committed” to a 17% CO2 reduction (which will never happen, but the insane government of Ontario, for example, is planning to utterly devastate its entire Great Lakes coast with wind turbines). This would have meant only that by 2020 Canada will have failed to meet its 25% goal, rather than failing to meet its 17% goal. My personal conclusion is that this bill was simply a symbolic pep talk before Cancun, to allow the Canadian delegation to point with pride at their Wonderful Greenness.

François GM
November 17, 2010 12:43 pm

I’m a member of the People’s Republic of Canada. This Senate vote is nothing short of amazing in this country where every single news outlet is pro-AGW except for the National Post (which hardly anyone reads in Quebec). I’m trying to understand how it happened, but the details are few.

John Nicklin
November 17, 2010 12:46 pm

Fred from Canuckistan says:
November 17, 2010 at 11:38 am
Keep in mind the morons who sponsored this Bill . . . the NDP are the Canadian socialist party & big Believers in AGW
A 25% cut from 1990 levels would kill the Canadian economy.
Tale every vehicle off all the roads, stop every train, plane & boat, stop using all hydrocarbon powered farm vehicles and immediately stop all production of electricity from fossil fuels . . and we wouldn’t achieve the 25% cut.
We’d go back to a pre-industrial, hand to mouth agrarian existence . . .

All very true, and once this state is reached, people like Layton will start screaming about how the government has put hard working people out of work though its callous and heartless actions.
PaulH says:
November 17, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Hurray! Some sanity in the Great White North!

Whoa there Paul, let’s not get carried away. I’m not sure you can use sanity and government in the same sentence when refering to my home and native land. I’d just call it a lucid moment.

James Allison
November 17, 2010 12:50 pm

Here’s another nail!!
NZ climate change minister Nick Smith has just announced postponement of the agricultural tax as part of the ETS. The tax was going to be introduced in 1014.
One of a number of reason Nick Smith gives; we would be the only country in the world with such a tax and that would make our farmers less competitive in the international market.
Oh my giddy aunt, a politician representing a Gumment saying something sensible.
Have you got it yet Mr Obama?

November 17, 2010 12:52 pm

I am embarrassed to be a Kiwi because of our ETS craziness!

James Allison
November 17, 2010 12:52 pm

I love the smell of dead climate change bills in the morning.

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