John Abraham panics, apparently he and the AGU are forming a "Climate rapid response team"

UPDATE! See this new press release: AGU backs away from “climate rapid response team” citing faulty reporting

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Gosh. A “Climate rapid response team” from Minnesota? What will they be armed with? Wits and a hockey stick? So far that hasn’t worked out too well.  From the Chicago Tribune:

Climate scientists plan campaign against global-warming skeptics

The American Geophysical Union plans to announce Monday that 700 researchers have agreed to speak out on the issue. The effort is a pushback against congressional conservatives who have vowed to kill regulations on greenhouse gas emissions.

Faced with rising political attacks, hundreds of climate scientists are joining a broad campaign to push back against congressional conservatives who have threatened prominent researchers with investigations and vowed to kill regulations to rein in man-made greenhouse gas emissions.

The still-evolving efforts reveal a shift among climate scientists, many of whom have traditionally stayed out of politics and avoided the news media. Many now say they are willing to go toe-to-toe with their critics, some of whom gained new power after the Republicans won control of the House in last Tuesday’s election.

On Monday, the American Geophysical Union, the country’s largest association of climate scientists, plans to announce that 700 climate scientists have agreed to speak out as experts on questions about global warming and the role of man-made air pollution.

Some are prepared to go before what they consider potentially hostile audiences on conservative talk-radio and television shows.

John Abraham of St. Thomas University in Minnesota, who last May wrote a widely disseminated response to climate-change skeptics, is pulling together a “Climate Rapid Response Team,” which so far has more than three dozen leading scientists to defend the consensus on global warming in the scientific community. Some are also pulling together a handbook on the human causes of climate change, which they plan to start sending to U.S. high schools as early as this fall.

“This group feels strongly that science and politics can’t be divorced and that we need to take bold measures to not only communicate science but also to aggressively engage the denialists and politicians who attack climate science and its scientists,” said Scott Mandia, professor of physical sciences at Suffolk County Community College in New York.

“We are taking the fight to them because we are … tired of taking the hits. The notion that truth will prevail is not working. The truth has been out there for the past two decades, and nothing has changed.”

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Heh, that last sentence pretty well sums it up. Read the whole article here.

I find the phrase “climate rapid response team” a bit of an oxymoron. Given the speed of climate change, did they mean “weather response team”? 😉

Well it looks like I and many of my associates be traveling more. When these guys come to your town, demand some equal time to present the skeptic side of the story.

h/t to WUWT Reader “Craig” in tips and notes.

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John P. Abraham, Ph.D.

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Craig

I hope they come to my home town. I can be very loud 😉
I linked to this story in hat tips, covered also in the Chicago Tribune.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/la-na-climate-scientists-20101108,0,3784003.story

R. de Haan

I say bring it on.
In the mean time: Carbon Trade Ends on Quiet Death of Chicago Climate Exchange
http://www.suite101.com/content/carbon-trade-ends-on-quiet-death-of-chicago-climate-exchange-a305704#ixzz14cMLxCNs
Link via Icecap.us
What about them apples?

pat

This has nothing to do with science and everything to do with propaganda to keep funding.

R. de Haan

With Secretary of State Clinton still signing Climate Treaties there is still something to defend I guess.
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/australia-us-leadership-change-pact/
And Steve Goddards view on the same article:
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/who-are-you-who-are-so-wise-in-the-ways-of-science/
The closure of the Chicago Climate Exchange must be a big set back for Al Gore and Obama. They will try to make come back even if they have to use all dirty tricks in the book.

Stand by for a cut and paste blizzard…
Amazing what government funded researchers can pass off as research these days.

Tom T

“plans to announce that 700 climate scientists have agreed to speak out as experts on questions about global warming and the role of man-made air pollution.”
What is this supposed to mean? How can air pollution be anything but man made? Surely they don’t think nature pollutes, if they are talking about CO2 that isn’t pollution.
Meanwhile global warming hit North Carolina with ski areas opening.
http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/41263/north-carolina-skiers-take-to-1.asp

Peter

Well, their livelihoods do depend on continued funding etc. One almost feels sorry for them, until one starts thinking just how much it’s costing the rest of us.

Steve Fitzpatrick

They’ll get slaughtered in any public forum they don’t control. This group will make no difference at all.

ShrNfr

The only comments that will be accepted from him and his team are ones that are done standing stark naked outside in the Minn. winter with a 50 mph wind.

OldOne

Well, I guess they are finally waving the white flag on their failed “the debate’s over” strategy.

Now I’m going to have nightmares about scientists dressed in white lab-coats, bullet-proof vests with pocket-protectors and helmets on, kicking in the doors in Cancun to intimidate everyone into signing a climate agreement. I can hear it now “Capitulate! Or, we’ll make you listen to tapes of James Hansen lectures!”

Michael

I thought the climate stopped warming in 1998 and has been cooling in the past few years. How does this fact jive with the warmists message?

R. Shearer

They need to hurry before climate cooling is obvious to everyone. Of course, that truth is not what they are peddling.

Michael D Smith

There are hundreds of climate scientists? I’m only aware of a few dozen. Are they really cranking up the machine lately, or is this a pedigree you can order online?

Then they already recognize that there is NO “scientific consensus” on AGW, that it is NOT a “settled science.” If there is no consensus and everything is subject to debate, why continue the endless attempts at national and global environmental regulations and energy taxation? Why push the UN FCCC global climate “binding commitments” just 3 weeks from now?

1DandyTroll

Finally! Now I have one more permutation so now I can quantify a formula of which I’m 100% sure to get 50% right.
1. Dumb ass hippie nerds cannot but come up with what they think is really cool names in the bestest of Hollywoodian drama name convention.
2. There is now 700 climate scientist (or as it appears to be: 700 measly puni reasearcher) that can prove their point in fact.
Using simple card tricks for probability calculations I come up with about 21 to 1 of those 700 that’ll draw fairly quickly or otherwise distance themselves from the running-towards-the-cliff-herd.

Lorne

When I first seen this seen this I went wow 700 scientist then looked down and it was 3 dozen or so then alittle farther and it was 39 then get to the end of the piece and it’s three names from the team things that make me go HUUMMMM

Just wait a minute while I stop laughing!

Martin Brumby

“a shift among climate scientists, many of whom have traditionally stayed out of politics and avoided the news media”
Yeah. Right.
Just like many Mafia members traditionally avoid any illegal or dubious activities.

DirkH

Well, i didn’t expect some kind of climate rapid response team…
Abraham: NOBODY expects the Climate rapid response team! Our chief weapon is surprise…surprise and fear…fear and surprise…. Our two weapons are fear and surprise…and ruthless efficiency…. Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency…and an almost fanatical devotion to the IPCC…. Our *four*…no… *Amongst* our weapons…. Amongst our weaponry…are such elements as fear, surprise…. I’ll come in again.

Jimmy Haigh

Well having seen Gavin Schmidt’s atrocious debating skills against Michael Crichton, Professor Lindzen and Professor Stott I hope he’s in the team!

a jones

Yes but there is only 39 of them so far, it seems they don’t really want to debate openly only possibly appear on news programmes and the like where they still have some control. All guff I would say.
Kindest Regards

DEEBEE

HMMM a mechanical engineer pontificating on climate change. Was that not verboten in climate consensus world?

Robinson

Has the world gone bonkers? Why does it need hundreds of climate scientists?

James Allison

“Some are prepared to go before what they consider potentially hostile audiences on conservative talk-radio and television shows.”
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Superb. Looking forward to receiving a schedule of events in good time to buy some beer and popcorn.

carbon-based life form

Enquiring minds want to know: Are all AGW-centric “climate scientists” gay?
… not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Billy Liar

Some are also pulling together a handbook on the human causes of climate change, which they plan to start sending to U.S. high schools as early as this fall.
Handing out AGW ‘bibles’ in schools? Yep, it sure looks like a religion.

Kevin Kilty

Even if it were proven conclusively that we are about to die from a man-caused CO2 climate-warming disaster, the regulations and initiatives these 700 Don Quixotes are about to defend won’t make the slightest difference anyway.

Alvin

Remember, the left is horrible at leading but stirring up trouble? It’s what they thrive for. This does not surprise me. I saw a report a month ago where they (leftists) were looking for paid/volunteers/activists to work starting in the coming year, most likely to protest and push newly elected conservatives in congress.

P Walker

Any chance the participants in the ICCC will go public in response ? Will “closet skeptics” , regardless of their field , be willing to potentially jeopardize their standing – possibly even their careers – by stepping forward with the truth ? If the AGU is really ready to start an offensive , are we ready to meet it ? After all , they’ve had an advantage for years .

Gary P

I wonder how long it will take before they start accusing people of having unreported income from the oil companies? And yes that is an accusation of a felony.

John Day

@Prof. Abraham (in the article):
> “The notion that truth will prevail is not working.”
That’s your fault. You have failed to provide convincing proof that observations of warming support your theory of environmental catastrophe, or that observed warming is entirely man-made.
“We have eliminated all of the other possibilities. CAGW is the only one left, so it must be true” is not such a proof.

Jimmy

“Climate Rapid Response Team”
Climatebusters, that is so freaking cool.
Where can I get a badge?
Do they offer 24 hour cover?
Do we just dial 999?
Is there a uniform?
Is it absolutely necessary to suffer from a God delusion disorder and have low levels of testosterone to join?
“engage the denialists”
Burn them at the stake more like.
Whoya gonna call?
Prof. John Abraham, Celebrity Climatebuster and Tarot Card Extraordinaire

Why target high schools? hmmmm

Curiousgeorge

I see a business opportunity with this.

dp

Quoting Dr. Judith Curry:
‘As we approach the anniversary of Climategate, I am getting a lot of queries from reporters, which invariably includes the following question:
Is there any hope for ending the war between climate scientists that support the IPCC and skeptics?
My answer is “yes.”’
My answer is “probably not”. Abraham has declared war, has put himself in an inflexible position, and seems headed toward the Jonesian utopia that comes from suspending as many human rights as needed to get his way – and to stop the “death trains”, certainly.
I just want the science to be scoped beyond looking for the human fingerprints in the climate record (which is another way to say dump the IPCC), for the science to be accurate (dump the boyz of Climategate), for the scientists to show some integrity, and the resolution to be both proportional and rational regardless of what causes the climate change and direction. And it wouldn’t hurt to show that the climate is changing in an unnatural way, or admit that that knowledge is beyond our ken and that we just don’t know.
We are poles apart. And Dr. Curry seems to have embraced a fool’s errand.

Steve Oregon

This is so predictable.
What these spineless and unethical clowns will do is talk tough but never go on conservative shows, they’ll visit only left wing shows, and ramp up the propoganda distribution to public schools.

peterhodges

The still-evolving efforts reveal a shift among climate scientists, many of whom have traditionally stayed out of politics and avoided the news media.
*thphhhhht* there goes my coffee.
i think that should read, “many of whom meddle in politics and saturate the media.”

Steve Oregon

The best demonstration of their weakness is their absense from here.
There has been nothing stopping them from making their case all along.

Tim

It looks increasingly like Custer’s last stand.

PaulH

Sounds like a climate science version of the stock market’s Plunge Protection Team. I look forward to reading their latest work of fiction, oops! I mean their “handbook” targeting teenagers.
As noted above, the 700 number quickly morphed to only 39. Hide the decline?

Alan Simpson not from Friends of the Earth

Hmmm, rent seekers, begging for more rent? I sincerely hope the new congress cut their funding full stop.
You can already hear the squawking from Mann and Mr Abraham, we live in interesting times, sadly.

“a handbook on the human causes of climate change, which they plan to start sending to U.S. high schools as early as this fall.”
Why are they targeting our children with their ‘truth’? They can’t win a scientific argument with us grown ups, so they target our naive children.
That’s called indoctrination, not debate.
The communists did it to me as a child in the Czech republic, the advertisers do it to my children and now the environmentalists are doing it. We need to stop this form of child abuse.
I did not like this under communism in the Czech Republic, I don’t like advertising industry doing it and I sure don’t like Climate scammers doing it. We need to fight this. Climate skeptics are not like creationists – The Royal Society has admitted that this, and if we can’t prevent propaganda in our schools we have a perfect right to demand equal time.

Tracers happen to work both ways.
Prof. John Abraham should be carefull at what or who he is aiming.

u.k.(us)

“The still-evolving efforts reveal a shift among climate scientists, many of whom have traditionally stayed out of politics and avoided the news media.”
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“For fools rush in where angels fear to tread.”
Alexander Pope

Chris D.

Isn’t this exactly what the Climatati were accusing skeptics of doing: Organizing a mass (dis)information campaign?
It’ll be interesting to see how this unfolds. Will it be a rinse-repeat of the same old “CO2 is the devil” theme, or will they take a broader approach of looking at the variety of human forcings, such that advocated by Pielke, Sr?

Nolo Contendere

I’m beginning to thihnk someone self described as a “climate scientist” not only should be ignored, but shouldn’t be allowed to vote or buy beer or do anything that you need to be an adult to do since they behave like hysterical children. Once we’ve defunded NPR, we should move on to “climate science” grants.

Dr. Dave

First off, this Abraham goof is an ASSOCIATE Professor who teaches undergrad science and engineering classes at some little known college in Minnesota. As far as I know the only “skeptic” he has challenged is Lord Monckton and he did this poorly. He also had his butt handed to him in Monckton’s response.
Still, I imagine right now there is flop sweat all over college professors who head “climate studies” programs. Funding cuts are a very real possibility. Congress controls the purse strings…not the Senate or the White House. If this fraud crumbles it will ruin careers, end entire college programs and put a lot of these parasites out of work. Maybe it’s not too late to study sociology.

ImranCan

” …..that science and politics can’t be divorced …..”
History is littered with the graves of misguided and flawed ideologies …..which all caried such mantras ….

P Walker

BS Footprint ,
They want to indoctrinate them before the next election . Sadly , ill educated teachers and school administrators will allow it to happen .