Watch the "Great Debate" on California's Prop 23 suspend the AB32 global warming law

Readers may recall yesterday when I wrote about the event sponsored by Chico State University that I was “disinvited” from because I was not allowed to use visuals that I wanted to explain the science.

Well, good news, even though I won’t be allowed to speak there, the world gets to watch it live via webcast.

At left is a snapshot from the student debate in progress now, but the Main Event that I was supposed to speak at comes later, at 6:30PM Pacific Time. I encourage WUWT readers to watch.

If nothing else, WUWT readers can demonstrate their collective global impact on the number of viewers of this event. Given that the city council streaming video webserver generally handles just a few dozen to a few hundred viewers, depending on the topic, we have a very good chance of setting an all time viewership record.

Here’s the details on the agenda and the link to live video.

REGULAR CHICO CITY COUNCIL MEETING — October 28, 2010

Chico Municipal Center, Council Chamber, 421 Main Street

1.
THE CHICO GREAT DEBATE – OCTOBER 28, 2010            The Great Debate is a cooperative project between the City of Chico and California State University, Chico, to create a public space for civil discourse.  This semester’s topic is:  “AB 32: To Suspend or Not to Suspend” – The Global Warming Solutions Act
2.
Listing of the proposed events:  You can also view these sessions on Cable Channel 11.
9:30 – 10:30 a.m.        PG&E Panel
11:00 -12:00 noon        Panels on Skin Cancer and Green Energy
12:30 – 1:30 p.m.        Panels on Financial Sponsors, Oil Industry and Solar Power
2:00 – 3:00 p.m.          Debate on Proposition 23
3:30 – 4:30 p.m.          Panels on Agricultural Industry and Environmentalists
6:30 p.m.            Main Event Debates – Community Member Debate Teams
3.
ADJOURNMENT

To watch it live click this link:

http://chico-ca.granicus.com/ViewPublisher.php?view_id=2

…and then click on “view event” right at the top.

UPDATE: Some people are concerned that WUWT viewers may crash the server, and I’ll get blamed. I don’ t think it is likely to happen. The company that runs the server for them handles much much larger cities and towns also, and they host it. So I think they can handle thousands of simultaneous connections. I actually put in the first streaming server for the city council chambers, and they replaced mine (donated) with this, and it is pretty well done.

If I thought there was any chance of crashing that streaming server I would not bother to suggest it. We may however set a viewer record for them. – Anthony

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rbateman
October 28, 2010 2:30 pm

This should be interesting. I’m sitting here looking at snow levels of 4,000′ in October, and it’s piling up on the mountains.
What Global Warming? Not here, and certainly not anywhere in this sector of the globe.

Ray
October 28, 2010 2:31 pm

If we don’t blow up their server, maybe we will see somebody use slides 😉 or big cartons with graphs on them.

John from CA
October 28, 2010 2:32 pm

I’m, in for the presentations and wished I’d seen the earlier presentations.
Here are my views on Prop 23:
This isn’t about Oil vs Clean Energy, its about a poorly crafted piece of legislation that will do more harm than good and about protecting jobs until AB32 is fixed and we can afford it.
Very few voters have taken the time to read AB32 (the Global Warming Act of 2006) and to understand it was enacted before the facts were known about flawed climate science. AB32 is Not a pollution control Bill, its a passe Global Warming Bill and no one even uses the term Global Warming any more.
AB32 simply needs to strip out the Cap and Trade provision and reliance on Global Warming assumptions and its potentially a piece of leadership legislation. Sustainability, Clean Energy, and Stewardship are great goals but not at the expense of Common Sense.
AB32 needs to eliminate the Cap and Trade provisions 70% of America Opposes, eliminate the unnecessary oversight Fees, eliminate the reliance on flawed Green House Gas assumptions, correct the vague language that will introduce Environmental Red Tape that will do more damage than good, ensure AB32 doesn’t undermine The Rule of Law, and make non-governmental agencies like CARB accountable to the taxpayer for their mistakes.
If the Rule of Law is allowed to become Rule by Bureaucrats using loosely defined AB32 legislation, we are all doomed.
Vote YES on Prop 23, it makes the most sense until AB32 is fixed and we can afford it.

John from CA
October 28, 2010 2:42 pm

2:40pm PT:
Very nervous presenter stating inaccurate and unsubstantiated claims.

October 28, 2010 2:47 pm

Hey, I can see a flat screen television display switched on there – not showing anything but blue right now, but still … !

John S.
October 28, 2010 2:51 pm

California emits 1.4% of the world’s greenhouse gasses? Nice rebuttal.

Editor
October 28, 2010 2:53 pm

I thought this was supposed to be a “classic debate” in the Lincoln/Douglas style. What’s with the microphone, TV cameras, and global audience?
And people I’ve never heard of?

ShrNfr
October 28, 2010 2:59 pm

From the wide shot of all those empty seats its seems to be a mass debate.

TomRude
October 28, 2010 3:09 pm

OT:
The French Academy of Sciences has issued a report about their short debate; The IPCC conclusions are largely standing and “rogue” academy members are condemned by the media.
Nature echoes this Pyrrhic victory of official science:
http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegreatbeyond/2010/10/french_climate_farce.html
Farce indeed!

Vorlath
October 28, 2010 3:11 pm

It’s funny. It reminds me of high school when we did projects and ate up what the teachers would sell us. We didn’t know any better and they would prop us up in front of people to regurgitate what we’ve been told with references and quotes supporting those ideas. They are clearly nervous. Why is there no one there though?

Glenn
October 28, 2010 3:14 pm

pretty underwhelming student presentations – not very robust ‘debating’! and can someone deal with the white balance? I looks like they’re having the meeting in a freezer!

Glenn
October 28, 2010 3:24 pm

I see the Panels on Agricultural Industry and Environmentalists are using ‘slides’ …

Adam
October 28, 2010 3:28 pm

I don’t think this is a good idea. If we crash their server people will say that Anthony knew this would happen and it was his form of revenge, and he will look petty because of it.
REPLY: I don’ t think it is likely to happen. The company that runs the server for them handles much much larger cities and towns also, and they host it. So I think they can handle thousands of simultaneous connections. I actually put in the first streaming server for the city council chambers, and they replaced mine (donated) with this, and it is pretty well done.
If I thought there was any chance of crashing that streaming server I would not bother to suggest it. We may however set a viewer record for them. – Anthony

October 28, 2010 3:30 pm

After November 2, who cares?

Atomic Hairdryer
October 28, 2010 3:32 pm

would it be unsporting to let them know their mic’s are still live?

Mike Hebb
October 28, 2010 3:34 pm

How can they cover much of anything with only 1 hr for the Prop 23 debate? Looks like some sort of dog and pony show.

John from CA
October 28, 2010 3:37 pm

oops — “as you can see in this graph” she’s saying…

October 28, 2010 3:39 pm

And now they’re showing a Powerpoint presentation! Hypocrites.

TinyCO2
October 28, 2010 3:40 pm

I see graphics with tree blossom and a very small crowd.

Stephen Brown
October 28, 2010 3:50 pm

Came in at 23:30hrs (BST), at the start of the Agricultural Industry presentation, the first comment which caught my ear was “I don’t know what that is” when the girl mentioned ‘cling-pip? nut?’ She used a slide (!!) to emphasise her initial comments. The relayed computer screen was visible in the shot I saw.
The second speaker read out her pre-prepared, read-from-the-script delivery in a robotic manner.
The third speaker made this same fact clear fin her first sentence.
I refuse to listen further. The is a completely warped set of what some would call ‘presentations’. The very delivery of the garbage being spouted is so very amateurish that it has to be pre-prepared to be given by unthinking stupes.
No FARMERS appear to be nominated to speak. On agriculture!
OMG!! The next speaker, a male, could not even read his script correctly, after claiming that it was his!
This drivel is so bad that I simply cannot continue.
Ended listening, in complete disgust, at 23:50.

John from CA
October 28, 2010 3:55 pm

that’s inaccurate:
21 instances of 4 consecutive quarters with unemployment at or below 5.5% have occurred since 1987. 7 instances in each of three 2.5 year periods. 23 years not 30 years per the student statement.

intrepid_wanders
October 28, 2010 4:03 pm

Wouldn’t be nice, after spending $24mil to counter “Big Texas Oil’s” $8mil, and they still lose?
I can dream…

Dr T G Watkins
October 28, 2010 4:04 pm

Brilliant! As Max Boyce said (Welsh readers only) I was there.

RobW
October 28, 2010 4:09 pm

Lat time I checked the UCS didn’t have any scientists on their board. Have things changed?

Mike G
October 28, 2010 4:16 pm

I see these young people speaking and I keep seeing the image of all those kool-aid drinkers lined up in neat rows in Guyana. This is definitely a religion and these kids are in the thrall of their charismatic professors/leaders. I have thought of them as kool-aid drinkers. But, I’m starting to think the plan is to force us to take the kool-aid.

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