It’s not hard to find something silly to catch eco snuff film producers 10:10 doing these days. It’s so easy to do, it’s almost a guilty pleasure.
Speaking of which, readers may recall when I called out Franny the founder on some hypocrisy over emissions cuts, denouncing air travel, and “blueberries not in season” coexisting on the same page:
I pointed out that the blueberries have to be flown into the UK. Oops. Then somebody didn’t like that, and signed me up as a supporter. That meant calling them out to remove me. Double oops. Then it was discovered a whole bunch of the signups were bogus, and 20,000 plus supporters disappeared overnight. Triple oops. Then, the whole silly story got picked up in the UK by the Telegraph and by the Herald Sun in Australia. Oops again.
Tonight, after the “global day of doing”, I thought I’d have a look to see if anything changed on the 10:10 UK website. Wow did it ever! They deleted the whole UK team from public view.
It used to be that you could navigate to this page using the website menu system:
http://www.1010global.org/uk/about/inside/team
That’s where I found Franny’s page on her need for blueberries.
But it is gone from the menu now, you can’t get there from here:
http://www.1010global.org/uk/about
The page is still there, and the navigation indicator shows the menu path you would take, but the click path has been scuttled from the left hand menu:
They hid the shame of those guilty pleasures that each team member has, like imported wine transported from the other side of the world in New Zealand. It’s no biggie, just 11,682 miles (18,800 km) and certainly justifiable when you take public transportation in London, right?
But, unless you know where to look, the bios on the entire UK team and the guilty pleasure things have been removed from general public view by taking them out of the website menu system.
Yep, it was the blueberries wot dun it. Heh.
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Ha, I bet they all puff away on tobacco as well, that’s the most obvious sign of the Eco hypocrite like leanardo decraprio who chain smokes through his movies while narrating an agw scare movie or the Goracle from a family of tobacco growers!
Like blueberries and NZ wine tobacco is a far far worse contribututer to CO2 just in the worldwide distribution chain before accounting for the methane and additional greenhouse gases with the smoking itself.
@Cadae
It has to be Buryberrygate, surely?
Sounds just like a disease to me, which is exactly what these eco-mentalists are.
At first I though this post was amusing, but on reflection it is missing the point.
These “guilty pleasures” are a light-hearted and self-confessed list of things that would lead the 10:10 people to break their environmental principles – at least occasionally. You can’t call them hypocrites for being honest.
OTOH it is another example where a feeble attempt at humour by 10:10 has back-fired.
Harry the Hacker says:
October 11, 2010 at 11:00 pm
One has to wonder indeed. Someone made the very good point that none of these people can do without their guilty pleasures yet their goal is to make each and every one of us do without the bare necessities. And to pay for that privilege as well. Bunch of tossers.
Sorry to spoil the fun but New Zealand wines ( wonderful stuff) is imported by sea to the UK, which I am told by my local wine dealer, improves the stuff in much the same way as India Pale Ale did after being sent to India. I imagine that fuel is still burned by the ships, but somewhat less than by aircraft. Wine, unlike blueberries keeps rather better once bottled so time is not a factor.
Cheers!
Perhaps they should have invented a new “No Pleasure” button. 🙂
Slightly interesting (I hope) is the way that the Gaurdian seems to have dropped the UK 10:10 campaign anywhere. They have a puff article showing pictures of the big day – not that I noticed anything locally here mind.
Loads of pictures of happy, smiling, eco people. Nothing wrong with that.
No pics from 10:10.
All from 350.org.
You know, the people who divorced themselves from 10:10.
I find it amazing how the green movement has been subverted and allowed itself to become involved in this ridiculous scam. I’m sure John Muir, the founder of the Sierra club, must be spinning in his grave!
Jenn Oates says:
October 11, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Au contraire, Jenn. We don’t have the sort of budgets the Alarmists have and need all the friends we can get …
Pointman
Very very funny but aren’t they pathetic little children and yet so very dangerous.
Here’s what I found, sorry if any repeats from other commenters.
http://www.1010global.org/uk/about/inside/team
Ayesha Garrett:
Guilty pleasure: Avocados [Jimbo notes-do avocados grow wild in the UK?]
Alexis Rowell:
Guilty pleasures: High speed trains, ice skating rinks,
Duncan Clark
Guilty pleasure: Cut flowers. [Jimbo notes-flown in or home grown?]
REPLY: So, it will probably fade away quickly, much like the Catlin expedition. – Anthony
Yes and whatever happened to the intrepid Welshman Pugh and Branson’s son, who found out that paddling canoes in the arctic got you a cold bum. We call that empirical evidence. Wasn’t Pugh going to swim on Mount Everest?
A couple of days ago on WUWT I was pointing out that their web master was bit of a twit, in not pulling down most of the site until they had sorted themselves out, so I cached their PEOPLE page, for when he wakes up. Seems I didn’t need to worry, they simply don’t have a clue. He thinks that removing a link from one page solves the problem. He ought to get some advice from HARRY over at UEA, he’s a pretty good programmer.
And O2 and Sony gave these folk money. Absolutely barmy, you’d think that they would tell them to take their site down, it’s beyond parody.
Reduce CO2, get the 10;10 team to stop breathing.
Hypocrisy rules OK!
The 10:10 Campaign is all a bit embarrasing for the Guardian..
10:10’s Strategy Director: Duncan Clark:
Is also the a Consultant Environment editor at the Guardian…
Guardian Profile:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/duncanclark
“Duncan Clark is a consultant editor on the Guardian environment desk and strategy director of 10:10. His most recent book is The Rough Guide to Green Living.”
Duncan’s Guilty Pleasure: Cut Flowers
http://www.1010global.org/uk/about/inside/team/duncan
So, THAT is how the Guardian got the 10:10 ‘scoop’
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/sep/30/10-10-no-pressure-film
Guardian: “Our friends at the 10:10 climate change campaign have given us the scoop on this highly explosive short film, written by Britain’s top comedy screenwriter Richard Curtis, ahead of its general release.”
The Guardian and George Monbiot are utterly compromised..
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/10/dellers-calls-out-moonbat.html
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100058109/no-pressure-monckton-watts-delingpole-presley-bin-laden-join-1010-campaign/
Am I alone in thinking that enough fun has been poked at this bunch? They were after all only calling for a 10% reduction and I think it is unrealistic for any campaigner to be held 100% to their own hair shirt principles? They do after all describe their pleasures as guilty.
I think that those of us who believe that their alarmism is misplaced, and I am certainly one of them, are not helping ourselves with this rather puerile continual p***-taking.
I do not want to be brought down to their level, and difficult to resist as it may be , I would suggest a line be drawn under this. I do not think it looks good.
I would not suggest for one moment that it be forgotten, however.
Franny talking about revolution
Below 10:10 Version of science, some of this is hilarious Franny @4.17 “CO2 is the most interesting for a reason I don’t know”
Nobody likes having their hypocrisy exposed …… and there is nothing better than exposing it ….
Reminds me of when the Hustler King Larry Flint exposed all the sordid little affairs of those trying to depose Bill Clinton.
The tentennies are self-obsessed wannabe socialists and see all sorts of ridiculous portents in their own navel fluff.
Knowing that wine makers at home in NZ are having a tough time due to the current worldwide economic problems, I suggest everyone in the UK and the US include a bottle of good guilt-free NZ wine in their weekly shopping basket. You will not only be doing yourself a favour, you will be helping rural producers in one of the few places in the world that operates totally without subsidies from the unwitting taxpayer.
I honestly, I just can’t see the point of this.
Certainly the video was stilted, unfunny, divisive, ineffective and puerile. That much we can agree on.
But as far as this woman’s profile comments go, there’s a reason it’s listed in a straightforward manner as a *guilty* pleasure and not just a pleasure; the writer knows full well that it clashes with the principles of the site and acknowledges it’s a (human) weakness.
The whole point of stating it is to hold her hands up in a “nobody’s perfect” fashion.
You didn’t unearth this as a piece of investigative journalism, so I don’t understand why you’re parading this particular woman’s head on a pole.
“Uncovering” these statements doesn’t weaken their position one little bit – not that it matters because, God knows, they’re in a totally buggered and indefensible position anyway as far as the facts are concerned.
But harping on this particular theme is pointless – you’ve missed the point of these statements appearing alongside the profiles.
Anthony,
the team page is up:
http://www.1010global.org/uk/about/inside/team
Looks same like before.
REPLY: and you’ve missed the point completely. I never said that page was missing, only that menu navigation to it had been removed, effectively hiding it from public view. You find it because I had a direct URL. Try finding it by starting from the main page. – Anthony
No We should not leave them a lone..
There ‘carbon footprints’ are MANY times higher than mine..
Yet they preach/patronise/bully…
and come out with statements that people that do not believe in the way they want:
are ‘afflicted’ – Franny Armstrong
And
“What to Do with those people.” – Franny Armstrong
It is not a small fringe group, 10:10 is VERY politically and socially connected in the UK…
Especially the MEDIA. – Hand in glove with the Guardian…
Duncan Clark above.. (Stratgey Director 10:10 – Guardain Environment)
The head of environment at the Guardain, was the editor of New Scientist website(totally pro CAGW), a BBC science reporters (totally pro AGW,) etc..
Damian Carrington
http://www.journalism.co.uk/2/articles/531235.php
“He was previously editor of the New Scientist website for seven years, during which time he was awarded the British Society of Magazine Editors (BSME) Online Editor of the Year award.
Prior to this position Carrington, who holds a PhD in earth sciences, was a science reporter for BBC News Online.”
“Damian is one of the most experienced and imaginative online journalists in the country and is the perfect person to take our green web offering to a new level,” said Ian Katz, the Guardian’s executive editor in charge of environmental coverage, in a press release.”
Ian Katz – Deputy Editor – Guardian.
Guardian – Ian Katz – 6 Dec 2009
How the climate change global editorial project came about
Today 56 major newspapers in 45 countries speak with one voice on climate change ahead of the Copenhagen summit. This is how it happened
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/06/climate-change-leader-editorial
10:10 – The time for action
The politicians failed in Copenhagen. Now we must take up the fight. But what has the campaign has achieved to date?
The Guardian and the editorial level and the environment team, is just FULL of CAGW activists..
Guardain takes the lead: Ian Katz
“Hence today’s Guardian-led initiative in which 56 major newspapers in 45 countries speak with a single voice (albeit in 20 different languages) through a shared editorial. As Guardian editor-in-chief Alan Rusbridger put it: “Newspapers have never done anything like this before – but they have never had to cover a story like this before.”
Aside from trying to provide a wake-up call about the urgency of the emergency facing us, the global leader carries a simple message to the politicians and negotiators gathered in Copenhagen: if all of us who disagree about so much can agree on what must be done, then surely you can too.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/06/climate-change-leader-editorial
10:10 is embedded in the Guardain.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/sep/01/10-10-launch-ian-katz
I don’t care where the berries come from – just so long as somebody knows how to ferment them.
I think you will find that container ships are horrendous polluters, burning MASSIVE amounts of fuel for a comparatively far longer duration than a simple airplane ride. Their emissions are also pretty much untrackable and unenforceable when out on the open sea.
One of the reasons for using air transport is speed, most important for perishables, but another is efficiency. Only the heaviest of heavy goods actually have an advantage by container ship.
Barry Woods
There are many, many *substantive* reasons why they should be criticised.
Confessing a liking for blueberries / wine and indicating in the same breath that they acknowledge it’s a “guilty” pleasure / weakness just isn’t one of them; this is a rare misjudgement.