People Send me stuff. I get pictures of weather stations from all over the world. Here we have Henderson Field, serving the capital city of Honiara, Guadalcanal, Solomon Islands.
Hi Anthony, I thought you might be interested to see this weather station.
It is the main one for the Solomon Islands, good situation for the airport, but as you can see in the photos, not so good for accurate temperature measurement.
The planes land then turn down the road to the Terminal apron, as they turn onto the apron, the jet exhaust washes over the weather station.
I’m not a technician, but I’ve repaired enough damaged equipment in my time to think that the exhaust heat may cause some problems with calibration over time.
Google earth -9.430025° 160.047393°
I’m trying slowly to get some full size photos loaded into google earth at present, but internet here is sporadic at the best of times, and down right miserable the rest.
Thanks,
Warren Nash
Solomon Islands
Here’s the closeup view of the weather station at the airport, the instruments are inside the fenced in enclosure.
As weather stations go, it isn’t bad, as the Stevenson Screen is 30 meters from the taxiway asphalt. That would make it a CRN2, acceptable by NOAA siting standards.
Here’s a ground level view of the station taken from the terminal:
Here comes a plane!
Coming into the terminal…
Hey, park it over here!
Uh, oh, look where the jet exhaust is pointed:
Hmmm, a new high temperature today?
Back to normal.
Now in the defense of the global climate record, it doesn’t look like this station gets updated at GISS very much:
And here’s the plot of data from NASA GISS:
Source here
Hmmm, pretty crappy data set dontcha think? Why have it at all?
If only GISS could use Weather Underground:
Eh, but that would require a thousands of man-hours, and millions of dollars in grant money to pull off.
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We can adjust for that.
Just add an ARTIFICAL trend…
Eh, but that would require a thousands of man-hours, and millions of dollars in grant money to pull off.
Don’t you mean wouldn’t?
Is the NASA GISS used in any of the reports?
Crappy is the best word for it.
Would like to see how it gets adjusted !!!!!
Aren’t they supposed to sink in a few years anyway?
(sarc/off)
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Everyone- invade this Wotts Up With That blog, and show him that we don’t appreciate mockery- that’s what 5 year olds do!
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Would like to see how it gets adjusted !!!!!
It’s all out there to find, according to GISS. You might be the first to actually replicate anything out of it. The name escapes me, but I think someone has spent years trying to put it all together. Someone other than the NASA Jailbird I mean. I’m not aware of anyone who has been successful in replication. Anyone know?
Oh wait, replication would be science. (that would kind of defeat the whole purpose).
Having spend quite a lot of time in military jet exhaust plumes, I’d say the exhaust that far away from the station is probably not very significant. It’s only for a few seconds, and the engines are likely only at around 40% . EGT is probably less than 500 deg. at the engine and it drops off quickly with distance.
REPLY: Yes, but a 1 degree error is significant enough. -A
The station location issue highlighted here gives rise to a thought — do the record high temps in LA occur around quiting time?
Anthony, do you ever wonder whether it’s deliberate?
While we are on the Solomon Islands it’s worth remembering:
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Anthony,
Please delete this comment if you think it has zero merit.
While looking at the aerial view of the airport I though about surfacestations. Have you considered the possibility of underground hot water pipes running close to the temperature stations and if they would have any influence on immediate temperature measurements? Just a thought.
All they have to do, is to install jet engines at all the other weather stations, and then
adjust the temps up or down as needed to factor in the JEEHGE ( Jet Engine Exhaust Heat Ghost Effect). Then it will all be equalised.
Problem solved.
Never saying much during most of my life, near his passing my dad told me stories about Guadalcanal and Henderson Field when he was there for 18 months during World War II. I had no idea growing up what a horrible ordeal he and his fellow marines went through and witnessed. Odd he wished he could go back and visit in his later years.
I wonder if there are any memorials and such there.
Sorry for OT, but it brings back memories.
O/T but good news:
29 Sept: UK Daily Mail: David Derbyshire: Back from the dead: One third of ‘extinct’ animals turn up again
The revelations come as the world’s leading conservationists prepare for a major United Nations summit on biodiversity in Nagoya, Japan, next month. ..
Dr Diana Fisher, of the University of Queensland, Australia, compiled a list of all mammals declared extinct since the 16th century or which were flagged up as missing in scientific papers.
‘We identified 187 mammal species that have been missing since 1500,’ she wrote in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B.
‘In the complete data-set, 67 species that were once missing have been rediscovered. More than a third of mammal species that have been classified as extinct or possibly extinct, or flagged as missing, have been rediscovered.’
Mammals that suffered from loss of habitat were the most likely to have been declared extinct and then rediscovered, she said…
The mistakes cannot be blamed on primitive technology or old fashioned scientific methods.
‘Mammals missing in the 20th century were nearly three times as likely to be rediscovered as those that disappeared in the 19th century,’ Dr Fisher added.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315964/One-extinct-animals-turn-again.html
Anthony –
REPLY: Yes, but a 1 degree error is significant enough. -A
Agreed. However the assumption is being made that the temp station feels any additional heat due to jet exhaust. That would depend to a large extent on the direction and strength of any wind in the vicinity as well as the aircraft position, engine setting, etc. . I’d like to see some hard data to support that assumption, before I’d jump to the particular conclusion that the picture implies. Perhaps someone could stand at the station during a few of these taxi evolutions with a instant reading thermometer and let us know the result.
DR – thanks to your father for his service and sacrifice. Yes, I know OT.
Anthony
Don’t you mean 0.2 – 0.4 degs is enough of an error to suggest a significant (but only an apparent/artificial) increase i recent temperature trends.
DR “I wonder if there are any memorials and such there.”
My father also served in the Pacific, including Guadalcanal.
http://www.abmc.gov/memorials/memorials/gu.php
No surprises here, just take a look at the ‘extinct’ 65 million year old Coelacanth. It’s worse than we thought.
$100,000,000 and I’ll keep track of that for you!
DR says:
September 28, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Never saying much during most of my life, near his passing my dad told me stories about Guadalcanal and Henderson Field when he was there for 18 months during World War II. I had no idea growing up what a horrible ordeal he and his fellow marines went through and witnessed. Odd he wished he could go back and visit in his later years.
I wonder if there are any memorials and such there.
DR, there is the main USA War Memorial just to the south east of Honiara township, The Japanese memorial at the Gifu, buried in the back of the foothills behind Honiara, the Memorial to the Marines marking the front line during the Gifu Battle, the Memorial Gardens at Henderson Field, the rectangular green patch to the west and slightly north of the Terminal building. Add in the numerous ships, aircraft, and trenches and caves that are still laying about in the forest and sea, we do have a lot of WWII memoriabilia. We still find bodies at times when digging gardens, or building sites, live ammunition is a major worry, it can be hazardous having a beach fire when the buried cartridges, shells start exploding.
I have photos in Google Earth of the main Memorial sites, plus a lot of more general stuff around Honiara.
Use VWKombi to find my photos in Panoramio or browse the collection in google earth
Jimbo says:
September 28, 2010 at 6:07 pm Atolls exist in a delicate balance between new sand and coral rubble being added from the reef, and sand and rubble being eroded by wind and wave back into the sea.”
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“Atolls are created by sea level rise, not destroyed by sea level rise.”
Willis Eschenbach – WUWT
There is also the replenishment of sand by the reef fish, predominately Parrot Fish, as Willis and Jennifer Maharosy have pointed out. Unfortunately, the coral reefs around Honiara and most of the inhabited areas of Solomons have been fished out, and there is a distinct lack of concern due to the windfall that is coming our way from AGW payments.
Which will have the effect of crippling this country even further and not providing what is needed, such as reliable and cheap electricity, clean water supplies, and education.
First thing I did was go to Goog Earth and establish it was a CRN2. Then I read the rest of the article.
Then I got to thinking that every CRN1 site in the entire USHCN is in an airport . . .
REPLY: Except for Cheyenne Wells, the only CRS that is a CRN1 – Anthony
“Curiousgeorge says:
September 28, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Perhaps someone could stand at the station during a few of these taxi evolutions with a instant reading thermometer and let us know the result.”
Exactly the point I was going to make. This can be tested, measured, verified and duplicated without bias. So far every bit of data, every document, every computer model, every statement from Govn’ts and the IPCC supporting the HYP(E)othesis that C02 is driving climate disruption cannot be tested, measured, verified and duplicated without bias.
Jets started taking over medium and long-term aviation in the late 1950’s (think Boeing 707 and Douglas DC-8) and cemented that dominance by the mid 1960’s. It would be interesting to compare temperature trends from 1955 to 1965 at major airports versus nearby rural sites.
The issue is how far could the exhaust reach?
Looking at the sequential photos, the clouds are moving left to right, so on this occasion, the jet exhaust maybe pushed away from the S Screen.
What happens when the wind is from the other direction??
But then again, we’ve been told ad nauseum that UHI effects are minimal, if anything they are negative. Just ask over at Skeptical Science, they’ll tell ya.