NOTE: This has been running two weeks at the top of WUWT, discussion has slowed, so I’m placing it back in regular que. – Anthony
UPDATES:
Statistician William Briggs weighs in here
Eduardo Zorita weighs in here
Anonymous blogger “Deep Climate” weighs in with what he/she calls a “deeply flawed study” here
After a week of being “preoccupied” Real Climate finally breaks radio silence here. It appears to be a prelude to a dismissal with a “wave of the hand”
Supplementary Info now available: All data and code used in this paper are available at the Annals of Applied Statistics supplementary materials website:
http://www.imstat.org/aoas/supplements/default.htm
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Sticky Wicket – phrase, meaning: “A difficult situation”.
Oh, my. There is a new and important study on temperature proxy reconstructions (McShane and Wyner 2010) submitted into the Annals of Applied Statistics and is listed to be published in the next issue. According to Steve McIntyre, this is one of the “top statistical journals”. This paper is a direct and serious rebuttal to the proxy reconstructions of Mann. It seems watertight on the surface, because instead of trying to attack the proxy data quality issues, they assumed the proxy data was accurate for their purpose, then created a bayesian backcast method. Then, using the proxy data, they demonstrate it fails to reproduce the sharp 20th century uptick.
Now, there’s a new look to the familiar “hockey stick”.
Before:

After:

Not only are the results stunning, but the paper is highly readable, written in a sensible style that most laymen can absorb, even if they don’t understand some of the finer points of bayesian and loess filters, or principal components. Not only that, this paper is a confirmation of McIntyre and McKitrick’s work, with a strong nod to Wegman. I highly recommend reading this and distributing this story widely.
Here’s the submitted paper:
(PDF, 2.5 MB. Backup download available here: McShane and Wyner 2010 )
It states in its abstract:
We find that the proxies do not predict temperature significantly better than random series generated independently of temperature. Furthermore, various model specifications that perform similarly at predicting temperature produce extremely different historical backcasts. Finally, the proxies seem unable to forecast the high levels of and sharp run-up in temperature in the 1990s either in-sample or from contiguous holdout blocks, thus casting doubt on their ability to predict such phenomena if in fact they occurred several hundred years ago.
Here are some excerpts from the paper (emphasis in paragraphs mine):
This one shows that M&M hit the mark, because it is independent validation:
In other words, our model performs better when using highly autocorrelated
noise rather than proxies to ”predict” temperature. The real proxies are less predictive than our ”fake” data. While the Lasso generated reconstructions using the proxies are highly statistically significant compared to simple null models, they do not achieve statistical significance against sophisticated null models.
We are not the first to observe this effect. It was shown, in McIntyre
and McKitrick (2005a,c), that random sequences with complex local dependence
structures can predict temperatures. Their approach has been
roundly dismissed in the climate science literature:
To generate ”random” noise series, MM05c apply the full autoregressive structure of the real world proxy series. In this way, they in fact train their stochastic engine with significant (if not dominant) low frequency climate signal rather than purely non-climatic noise and its persistence. [Emphasis in original]
Ammann and Wahl (2007)
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On the power of the proxy data to actually detect climate change:
This is disturbing: if a model cannot predict the occurrence of a sharp run-up in an out-of-sample block which is contiguous with the insample training set, then it seems highly unlikely that it has power to detect such levels or run-ups in the more distant past. It is even more discouraging when one recalls Figure 15: the model cannot capture the sharp run-up even in-sample. In sum, these results suggest that the ninety-three sequences that comprise the 1,000 year old proxy record simply lack power to detect a sharp increase in temperature. See Footnote 12
Footnote 12:
On the other hand, perhaps our model is unable to detect the high level of and sharp run-up in recent temperatures because anthropogenic factors have, for example, caused a regime change in the relation between temperatures and proxies. While this is certainly a consistent line of reasoning, it is also fraught with peril for, once one admits the possibility of regime changes in the instrumental period, it raises the question of whether such changes exist elsewhere over the past 1,000 years. Furthermore, it implies that up to half of the already short instrumental record is corrupted by anthropogenic factors, thus undermining paleoclimatology as a statistical enterprise.
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We plot the in-sample portion of this backcast (1850-1998 AD) in Figure 15. Not surprisingly, the model tracks CRU reasonably well because it is in-sample. However, despite the fact that the backcast is both in-sample and initialized with the high true temperatures from 1999 AD and 2000 AD, it still cannot capture either the high level of or the sharp run-up in temperatures of the 1990s. It is substantially biased low. That the model cannot capture run-up even in-sample does not portend well for its ability
to capture similar levels and run-ups if they exist out-of-sample.
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Conclusion.
Research on multi-proxy temperature reconstructions of the earth’s temperature is now entering its second decade. While the literature is large, there has been very little collaboration with universitylevel, professional statisticians (Wegman et al., 2006; Wegman, 2006). Our paper is an effort to apply some modern statistical methods to these problems. While our results agree with the climate scientists findings in some
respects, our methods of estimating model uncertainty and accuracy are in sharp disagreement.
On the one hand, we conclude unequivocally that the evidence for a ”long-handled” hockey stick (where the shaft of the hockey stick extends to the year 1000 AD) is lacking in the data. The fundamental problem is that there is a limited amount of proxy data which dates back to 1000 AD; what is available is weakly predictive of global annual temperature. Our backcasting methods, which track quite closely the methods applied most recently in Mann (2008) to the same data, are unable to catch the sharp run up in temperatures recorded in the 1990s, even in-sample.
As can be seen in Figure 15, our estimate of the run up in temperature in the 1990s has
a much smaller slope than the actual temperature series. Furthermore, the lower frame of Figure 18 clearly reveals that the proxy model is not at all able to track the high gradient segment. Consequently, the long flat handle of the hockey stick is best understood to be a feature of regression and less a reflection of our knowledge of the truth. Nevertheless, the temperatures of the last few decades have been relatively warm compared to many of the thousand year temperature curves sampled from the posterior distribution of our model.
Our main contribution is our efforts to seriously grapple with the uncertainty involved in paleoclimatological reconstructions. Regression of high dimensional time series is always a complex problem with many traps. In our case, the particular challenges include (i) a short sequence of training data, (ii) more predictors than observations, (iii) a very weak signal, and (iv) response and predictor variables which are both strongly autocorrelated.
The final point is particularly troublesome: since the data is not easily modeled by a simple autoregressive process it follows that the number of truly independent observations (i.e., the effective sample size) may be just too small for accurate reconstruction.
Climate scientists have greatly underestimated the uncertainty of proxy based reconstructions and hence have been overconfident in their models. We have shown that time dependence in the temperature series is sufficiently strong to permit complex sequences of random numbers to forecast out-of-sample reasonably well fairly frequently (see, for example, Figure 9). Furthermore, even proxy based models with approximately the same amount of reconstructive skill (Figures 11,12, and 13), produce strikingly dissimilar historical backcasts: some of these look like hockey sticks but most do not (Figure 14).
Natural climate variability is not well understood and is probably quite large. It is not clear that the proxies currently used to predict temperature are even predictive of it at the scale of several decades let alone over many centuries. Nonetheless, paleoclimatoligical reconstructions constitute only one source of evidence in the AGW debate. Our work stands entirely on the shoulders of those environmental scientists who labored untold years to assemble the vast network of natural proxies. Although we assume the reliability of their data for our purposes here, there still remains a considerable number of outstanding questions that can only be answered with a free and open inquiry and a great deal of replication.
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Commenters on WUWT report that Tamino and Romm are deleting comments even mentioning this paper on their blog comment forum. Their refusal to even acknowledge it tells you it has squarely hit the target, and the fat lady has sung – loudly.
(h/t to WUWT reader “thechuckr”)

This sentence is just priceless: We find that the proxies do not predict temperature significantly better than random series generated independently of temperature.
Ouch. In addition, data quality issues were not assessed at all, so these findings are based on an assumption that proxy data was collected and processed properly.
Author Bios:
Blakeley B. McShane, B.S. Economics Summa Cum Laude, University of Pennsylvania (2003), B.A. Mathematics Summa Cum Laude, University of Pennsylvania (2003), M.A. Mathematics, University of Pennsylvania (2003), Studies in Philosophy, University of Oxford (2004-2005), M.A. Statistics, University of Pennsylvania (2010), Ph.D. Statistics, University of Pennsylvania (2010), Donald P. Jacobs Scholar; Assistant Professor of Marketing, Northwestern University (2010-Present)
Abraham J. Wyner, B.S. Mathematics Magna Cum Laude, Yale University (1988), Ph.D. Statistics, Stanford University (1993), National Science Foundation Fellowship (1989-1991), Acting Assistant Professor of Statistics, Stanford University (1993-1995), National Science Foundation Post-Doctoral Fellowship in the Mathematical Sciences (1995-1998), Visiting Assistant Professor of Statistics, University of California at Berkeley (1995-1998), Assistant Professor of Statistics, University of Pennsylvania (1998-2005), Associate Professor of Statistics, University of Pennsylvania (2005-Present)
It is always good to have these handy.
As copied from Kay’s post above:
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From New York Times:
“If you ask me as a person, do I think the Russian heat wave has to do with climate change, the answer is yes,” said Gavin Schmidt, a climate researcher with NASA in New York. “If you ask me as a scientist whether I have proved it, the answer is no — at least not yet.”
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Well, at least Mr. Schmidt used the words “climate change” , the new code words for what used to be called AGW. However, maybe we shouldn’t be so critical of those new code words. After all, Earth’s climate temperatures have been changing for millions of years.
During more recent times, temperatures have risen fairly steadily since the mid-1800’s, (following the end of the “little ice age”), and during the subsequent century, even before CO2 began its big rising trend after the 1940’s. So what else could have caused temperature’s big rising trend from about 1850 to about 1950, as clearly shown in McShane and Wyner’s Figure 16 if levels of CO2 stayed fairly stable during that century?
Could the big rising trend during those 100 years have resulted from anything other than unknown natural causes? If not, then what else, Mr Schmidt et al AGW fanciers?
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Henry: I think it has something to do with the CO2 letting through the long waves, which hit the surface, and a percentage are reflected back out as short waves, some of which hit the CO2 and deflect every which-a-way (with some going back down).
Then saturation, angular deflection, and band limitation and all that fun stuff gets involved resulting in a stream of mysterious symbols I can’t decipher.
Oh, my indeed, Anthony. You have whipped this one up into a right old meringue! Google McShane Wyner 2010…..
Personally, I’d prefer to read the final published version, then read the contributions for or against the paper’s claims. Until lately, that was always how it was done, in each and every strand of science.
People were yahoo-ing within less than an hour of your first post on this. How can that credibly have given them time to work through the paper itself, let alone the supporting material?
The draft paper – and I have now read it twice – offers some interesting and challenging thoughts. That is all, and, as the scientific method goes – you will need to wait for considered responses. I emailed both authors last night and both expressed surprise that the spin-machine had kicked-off in this way – from my perspective it is incredibly immature. A discussion is planned, I was told. They both seem very reasonable people.
My advice: stop spinning. It gets nobody anywhere. I expect that you will snip my comment, but the advice is from the heart. I repeat – let the paper go to press and digest post-publication commentary, and THEN decide what makes sense.
All the best – John
[REPLY – You don’t know us very well if you think we’d snip something like this. We permit and encourage opinions from all sides of the argument. We do not delete a post unless it is abusive or over the line or otherwise contrary to blog policy (fake email address, etc.). ~ Evan]
I do not understand why WUWT does not make continual reference to the Beck paper (Ernst-Georg Beck Dipl. Biol.; ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT; VOLUME 18 No. 2, 2007) which uses 90,000 measurements made by over 100 scientists during the last 180 years to show CO2 trends. In particular, the 180 year graph shows CO2 at 425 ppm in 1825, higher than it is today, bottoming out at 315 ppm in 1958, just when the Mauna Loa measurements started.
Instead, everyone is left with the brainwashed image of the Mauna Loa graph. Mauna Loa sits in the middle of the world’s largest CO2 belching ocean, atop the world’s largest CO2 belching volcano. ML is perhaps the worst place in the world to measure manmade influences; it is measuring natural influences. And don’t give me this night-time downward convecting flow crap, either. What’s the source of this flow, anyway – the Moon?
Another continual refernce should be made to Ferenc Miskolczi’s paper (Miskolczi, Ferenc M. 2010. “THE STABLE STATIONARY VALUE OF THE EARTH’S GLOBAL AVERAGE ATMOSPHERIC PLANCK-WEIGHTED GREENHOUSE-GAS OPTICAL THICKNESS”, Energy and Environment, 21, 243-262) , and Gerlich and Tscheuschner’s paper (Falsifiation Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects within The Frame Of Physics, Gerlich, G. and R. D. Tscheuschner, International Journal of Modern Physics B Vol. 23, No. 3, 2009, 275-364). These two papers alone drive the stake thru the heart of this manmade global warming nonsense.
Anthony Watts says:
August 14, 2010 at 7:18 pm
“Nice try at misdirection Mike Roddy- FAIL”
I didn’t read all the comments yet so maybe this is redundant, but I thought Mike was being satirical. Sure sounded like satire to me.
Evenjones, do you mean to say that CO2 is invisible to SW? Which it is? The Earth’s surface, depending on the surface can bounce SW back out, which would then also just fly right past CO2.
The mechanism that is plausible for CO2 cooling has to do with rising, LW absorbing, CO2 laden air. Once it gets high enough, CO2 is not only lifted off the ground (where it likes to be because it is a heavy gas), but that CO2 is also going to emit LW at an atmospheric level that might prevent those LW’s from coming back down to Earth.
Woo-Hoo! Stu gets it! “Stu Ostro, senior meteorologist for The Weather Channel, is a rare breed of meteorologist who is increasingly focused on the intersection between climate and weather. A former climate change skeptic, he has compiled a lengthy presentation showing changes in weather patterns that he believes may be related to climate change.”
voices dot washingtonpost.com/capitalweathergang/2010/08/one_meteorologists_view_of_ext.html
Oh, and lookee here, it’s a story published in the Wash Post…one of the more notorious climate change [snip] rags. I bet George Will has wet himself…
Let’s see, that’s another former [snip] (and public figure) recanting. That makes four in the past week. Wow. How soon will you, Anthony, and you, sTeve, be joining them? We’re planning the party and we need a head count!
-hugs,
-sTv
[~dbs, mod.]
Another awesome thread of awesome posts and comments!
It is amazing how some simply refuse (lack the ability?) to understand the purpose of the paper and tenaciously hold to the CAGW meme. I reminds me of, ‘A Few Good Men’, the movie with Nicholson, Cruise, and Demi Moore. You know…where Nicholson is on the stand and starting to get irate? (Paraphrased):
“In the Team we use words like ‘Trick’, ‘Hide The Decline’, and ‘Homogenized’. We use these words as a code in a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline.”
“I have niether the time or inclination to explain myself to a people that I provide data and graphs to save the world from CAGW, then questions the manner in which I derived my results. I would much rather you just said, “Thank You” and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand opposed.”
“Either way I don’t give a damn what your observations and factual data prove or disprove because deep down inside, in places you don’t go to at dinner parties…
you WANT that hockey stick…
you NEED that hockey stick…”
Cross question: “Did you, with forethought of malfeasance and a clear political agenda corrupt the science, alter data, and intentionally attempt to subvert any opposing viewpoints of your fellow scientists and colleagues?”
“YOU’RE DAMN RIGHT I DID!!! AND I’D DO IT AGAIN!!!
But seriously folks, they cannot see the significance of the M&W paper…dare not. The reason being being that it destroys what Mann et al have done AT THE VERY FOUNDATION. It didn’t pick holes in it, didn’t question minute details that were controversial. Hell, it used the same crap data sets and crap proxies!!
It pulled the friggin’ carpet out from under it. Best said by someone else above, “…Castle in the air…”
That was fun…moving on 😉
Tamino and Romm deleting comments with refs to a scientific paper? Really? What cowards. These guys deserve to lose.
Evan – no – I don’t know you very well really. But on this occasion I had to add in – perhaps if anything for sake of the reputation of “scepticism”….
Some of your regular readers seem to have difficulty with this. Hence all the “Ya-Hoo” comments. A true sceptic will wait for the paper to be published and then digest the post-publication comments and question anything in either that does not make sense. Depending on the answer(s), they will then adjust their opinion accordingly.
Surely to goodness, that is a better way to form a conclusion?
Does that seem reasonable?
cheers – John
[REPLY – No problem at all with that. Feel free to stick around and contribute to the discussion. ~ Evan]
I read the paper today.
The key argument comes down to be the same argument as Steve McIntyre’s – that the proxies are, if anything, very weak measures of temperature and cannot be distinguished from red noise (random series with autocorrelation) in terms of any statistical metric.
Also the close match of the proxies with the instrumental record says much about the proxy selection but tells us nothing at all about how they behave “out of sample” (ie before the instrumental record)
The authors use Bayesian analysis to clearly argue that the RealClimate non-statisticians are simply fooling themselves.
John Mason says:
August 16, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Some of your regular readers seem to have difficulty with this. Hence all the “Ya-Hoo” comments. A true sceptic will wait for the paper to be published
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John, read the post directly above your post, and say that again with a straight face.
John, the post by sTv…….
Thanks, Evan… I’ll pop in now and then.
Regards from Mid-Wales 🙂
Cheers – John
[Not at all. But you may have poked a hornets’ nest with a stick! I’ll leave you to deal with that as you see fit . . . ~ Evan]
Third paragraph in my post above should have read, ” I would much rather you just said Thank You, and went on your way to pass Cap&Tax legislation”.
We do stand opposed, and we have picked up a weapon: facts & truth.
Everyone here is opposed to only a very few things: the way the science was done (non-scientifically), they way the science was reported (non-factually), and the way dissenting views were ignored, ridiculed, and villified.
We just always wanted the truth, John Mason your comment above is thin and irrelevant. Thanks to M&M, and the Wegman report, we already knew the Team et al were tripe & charade (at least our taxes didn’t go up) and that the Mann graph was/is bunk.
Evenjones, do you mean to say that CO2 is invisible to SW? Which it is? The Earth’s surface, depending on the surface can bounce SW back out, which would then also just fly right past CO2.
I’m not up on the wave physics. It’s just my understanding (correct or not) that the energy coming in is not the same wavelength of that which is reflected back out and that is why CO2 does not prevent as much energy from coming in as it does from going out.
Having said that, I think CO2 has a very minor effect and is probably subject to fairly heavy negative feedback. Otherwise a 40% rise in CO2 would have produced one heck of a lot more warming than it has already. IF the adjusted 20th century surface trends are correct (which I doubt), IF the 20th century warming isn’t largely natural (I suspect it is), and IF any manmade warming is 100% attributable to CO2 (which I doubt).
John Mason, you seem to be writing with a patronizing pen. Are you saying that only published scientists have “first rights” because the rest of us need their comments in order to truly understand and discuss the research? Reminds me of the hubris of Kurdish chieftains (khafirs) in Western Armenia who reserved the right to bed Armenian brides on their wedding night. The Kurds thought themselves to be higher up the ladder than Armenians. Do you think this is so about the authors and those who have been invited to the “discussion” as you call it? If this is so, you can bet I would rather spend my tax money on something other than hubris.
@ur momisugly John Mason,
I couldn’t personally agree more. But the same could be stated about those who are quick to poo-poo anything which purports to go against the status quo. For instance, there are those over at “Open Mind” who have already decided this paper is flawed and simply another attempt at denial of the “known” truth. Heck, good ‘ol Eli has already identified the flaws. Go figure. Pretty quick work for a chemist/spectroscopist!
Someone here earlier posted a fairly reasonable question over there which was, if you believe them, deleted. Something to the effect of “why wouldn’t your guys be happy if Mann’s conclusions were proven to be flawed?” One would think the hope we all have is that we have not done as much damage to the planet as previously thought. But it would seem the Tamino’s of the world are more intent on continuing the “fight” to prove something. Not the way science should be conducted I think you would agree.
That said, I don’t much understand the “ya-hoo!” response. For me, though I have my opinions, I find the pissing match petty and tiring. The warmest folk seem to be a fairly small, self-affirming clique, one entirely unable to admit that even one single shred of their mantra may be flawed or overcooked. At least here I find that there are myriad opinions. Some intelligent, some less so. But at least there is a diversity when it comes to posting and commenting regardless of your opinion of the content.
I would agree, though, that a wait and see approach is ultimately best regardless of the subject. Time to digest before jumping in the water so to speak.
Well, the burden shouldn’t have to be on the laymen. But as the scientists have dropped the ball so badly, what choice do we really have?
(Meanwhile, John, have fun doing battle with the yahoos. Yer on yer own!)
Pamela Gray 2:47 – Right on Pamela.
It is now posted at Deltoid.
“Their reconstruction appears to be closest match to a hockey stick shape yet seen”
The post and some of the comments are actually funny.
Hockey stick hooke(y) schtick on the wall, prey tell, who’s the greatest climate scientist of all?
This comes at an interesting times. The Oxburgh Report stated as a conclusion that “there would be mutual benefit if there were closer collaboration and interaction between CRU and a much wider scientific group outside the relatively small international circle of temperature specialists.” (Page 5).
It also stated, “With very noisy data sets a great deal of judgement has to be used. Decisions have to be made on whether to omit pieces of data that appear to be aberrant. These are all matters of experience and judgement. The potential for misleading results arising from selection bias is very great in this area. It is regrettable that so few professional statisticians have been involved in this work because it is fundamentally statistical. Under such circumstances there must be an obligation on researchers to document the judgemental decisions they have made so that the work can in principle be replicated by others.” (Page 3).
“We cannot help remarking that it is very surprising that research in an area that depends so heavily on statistical methods has not been carried out in close collaboration with professional statisticians.” (Page 5).
This paper comes as a timelyexample of the recommendations of the Oxburgh report. How the climate scientists will respond will be interesting.