From NBC29:
Protestors, angry with the way Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli has tried to make his case, rallied on grounds at the University of Virginia Friday afternoon.
Only one small problem…..
Turnout was smaller than expected, as just a few people showed up. Organizers put the rally together to express the viewpoint of some students and faculty. They say the actions of Cuccinelli could have severe ramifications on the academic world.
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The protest organizer, shown below, doesn’t inspire confidence, especially when you listen to what he has to say. Where’s Bill McKibben when you need him?
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“The bald headed kid” is likely not a cancer patient. It looks like he is suffering from alopecia totalis. It is a condition when your immune system starts attacking your hair follicles like they were foreign invaders. It has stages like ‘areata’ when it is only patches of hair loss, or universalis, when everything everywhere goes.
Hansen has it right though, he goes to demonstrations organised by other groups.
Speaking of research integrity, here is a wonerful example of what can go wrong when the raw data is around for people to check: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/21/education/21harvard.html?_r=1
N. B. Since this is in the NYT I am not 100% confident of its accuracy.
Frank Lee Meidere says:
August 20, 2010 at 8:11 pm
McElveen also said that siding with Cuccinelli also has serious affects on the nationwide debate on climate change.
Shouldn’t a professional writer know the difference between “affects” and “effects”?
Oh, right. It wasn’t a professional writer. It was a reporter.
Looks like NBC are watching this thread – they’ve corrected the affects/effects error!
http://www.nbc29.com/Global/story.asp?S=13019499
But yeah, the tiny turnout of this pathetic little “protest” from a bunch of ignoramuses just shows how little support there is for Mann. The only ones defending Mann are the ones who actually still don’t realise or understand just how anti-scientific his behaviour is. They don’t see a problem with – or are blissfully ignorant of – the act of cherrypicking proxies to make the MWP and LIA disappear whilst “hiding the decline” in the recent proxy record. They don’t see a problem with – or are blissfully ignorant of – the act of refusing to make raw data and code available to sceptics for good, honest testing (which would have shown what complete fraudsters the Hockey Team have been from the beginning). I would call these protesters “useful idiots” – but, fortunately, this little bunch aren’t even useful.
D. King says:
August 20, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Typical of all you deniers; not to show the rest of the protestors
Thanks for my first good laugh of the day.
Behind every radical student is a teacher or professor with a bone to pick with somebody. Sometimes the kid even gets “Extra Credit”.
Methinks they doth protest too ……. well maybe not.
I hope VA AG wins (who knows?)!
Iggy Slanter says:
August 21, 2010 at 3:56 am
I had Alopecia areata for a few years through high school in the 1960s. At the time it wasn’t regarded as an auto-immune disease. I haven’t bothered to read up on things like Alopecia universalis in decades, but I though it was a more aggres form of male pattern baldness. I’d say “on steroids,” but part of my treatment was cortisone injections in my scalp.
To the best of my knowledge, alopecia has no impact on mental functioning, so attempts to link that here are just ad hominem attacks, If I wanted those, there are better places to go. When I got to CMU, the head of the young computer science department was Alan Perlis, http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/misc/mosaic/common/omega/Web/csd/perlis.html and he had Alopecia universalis. I never heard people link that to his intellect.
In my freshman programming class, his lectures were more on the philosophy of computer science and where it was going. He wrote the final exam (average score 13), and left for vacation, “neglecting” to leave the answer key with the grad student TAs who had to grade it. Fortunately for most, the test wasn’t a major part of the final grade.
Pushing a lie uphill is really hard …
savethesharks says:
August 20, 2010 at 9:42 pm
But don’t jump on all bald-headed-brothers now, son, or you will face some whoop ass!
😉
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
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At 41, I’m going there myself, my friend!
I was simply commenting on the possibility that he is perhaps trying to draw attention to himself, “to be unique” just like everyone else. If it is a medical condition like someone suggested, then I am a jerk for my comment.
Chris – I’m 99% certain Lubos statement wasn’t a reference to testerone lev els.
It was just a joke.
Bet these types are majoring in philosophy, international relations, or some-such really profound subject matter. Bet they welch on their student loans too.
Why didn’t they fund the big protester Hansen?
Looks to me like the kid will need to sharpen his arguments if he wants to take upper level classes.
It may help if he reads the statement from Cucinelli.
Just white elitists care about the planet? Is it white guilt?
Bernie says:
August 21, 2010 at 4:28 am
Speaking of research integrity, here is a wonerful example of what can go wrong when the raw data is around for people to check: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/21/education/21harvard.html?_r=1
N. B. Since this is in the NYT I am not 100% confident of its accuracy.
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If Dr. Marc Hauser had to go through all that, because he made some mistakes in his scintific reports, then what should be the penalty for all the climategate/glaciergate/and-all-those-other-gates concocted by Jones/CRU/ICCP/Mann/Pachauri and all?
I am sure that if Dr. Hauser’s mistakes were in climatology, he would have survived it all, having been defended by the left-wing media and scientists, but being in another branch of science………and apolitical….mmmmmmmmm
Bernie says:
August 21, 2010 at 4:28 am
What? How can a university conduct a proper investigation without taking into account the “‘level of success in proposing research and obtaining funding”? Isn’t that a primary “measure” of integrity?
Oh, maybe Harvard has different standards than other universities that value other contributions to society.
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At 4:28 AM on 21 August, Bernie had written:
“Speaking of research integrity, here is a wonderful example of what can go wrong when the raw data is around for people to check: http://tinyurl.com/3yo7f6e”
Hm. Perhaps Penn State University (present home of Dr. Mann) might persuade the same people at Harvard to do a back-up to their own investigation of the “Hockey Schtick” perpetrator.
Might be nice to engage the attentions of folks with a recent track record of proven willingness to expose professional misconduct in a member of the ivy-covered professoriate.
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First. Thing. That. Hit. My. Mind. Too.
Then. Parallel. Thoughts. Like. Others. Re:. Unfortunate. Medical. Condition.
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At 4:33 AM on 21 August, David UK had written:
“Looks like NBC are watching this thread – they’ve corrected the affects/effects error!”
Whether they’re watching WattsUpWithThat.com or not (lord, since Climategate, who on the planet isn’t browsing in here at least once a day?) , the fact that they’re willing to correct proofing errors on their Web site is praiseworthy.
Note the comments on that local NBC station’s Web page. Almost all have thus far been aimed at burying the proverbial hatchet – in the back of Dr. Mann’s neck.
They also offer browsers the opportunity to “Judge” each commentator’s contribution, and those who have been defending Dr. Mann and slagging Mr. Cuccinelli have been assessed as “Clueless” and “Nuts.”
Given the increasing importance of the ‘Net when compared against the legacy media – including broadcast “Big Three” network television in these United States – the preponderance of Internet scorn for the AGW alarmists since last November’s revelations (coupled with political outrage hammering at the doors of our Permanently Incumbent Institutional Party malfeasants-in-office), I tend to take such manifests of public opinion as a strong indicator that the “global warming” noisemakers have been figuratively castrated.
Methinks their voice – such as it is – has now raised squeakily into the range where only “Liberals” and other fascists can hear it.
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Isn’t the issue whether proper research was done while being paid to perform research?
Iggy Slanter: August 21, 2010 at 3:56 am
“The bald headed kid” is likely not a cancer patient. It looks like he is suffering from alopecia totalis. It is a condition when your immune system starts attacking your hair follicles like they were foreign invaders.
Childhood rheumatic fever will do that, too. I had a friend who was McElveen’s spit ‘n’ image from the time he was a year old until he hit age 40.
He rags me by saying he’s “prematurely redheaded”…
2 years ago we all observed the explosion named the mortgage bubble. Part of the bubble came from mortgage application fraud. People went for loans and provided false financial info. Loans were approved based on false information
Applying for grants is the same. The AG is asking for records. Did Mann use the money for which it was requested? Did he do the work his grants paid him to do. Did he keep honest records of his work?
Mortage audits will not end the purchase of homes in America
Examination of financial records of spending of grant money will NOT end research, academia etc in America. If Mann did some heavy duty googling and armchair work for 30 hours on one set of tree rings, where did the other millions go?
The CEI sued NASA GISS. It seems Gavin Schmidt is blogging his heart out on Realclimate work instead of being on task down the hall at his paying job. He claimed he was too busy to furnish info under FOIA requests.
After making adjustments to the data, at least eight or nine protesters were actually present. If nothing is done, up to 15 protesters could show up next year, and soon we could reach a tipping point where 50 or 60 protesters rally in support of Mann. Drastic action must be taken now to prevent this.
I think it is very mean for you all to be commenting on the protester’s appearance. He has been tearing his hair out for ages trying to think of ways to defend the indefensible.
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At 5:59 AM on 21 August, Ric Werme had written:
“To the best of my knowledge, alopecia has no impact on mental functioning, so attempts to link that here are just ad hominem attacks.”
Entirely true. On the anecdotal side, one of my favorite otorhinolaryngology specialists (an ENT guy) has long suffered from alopecia totalis. He brings to the operating room – and, more importantly in my mind, to the Emergency Department – some of the sharpest diagnostic and therapeutic abilities I have ever had the pleasure to encounter, and a helluva pair of hands.
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