Climatic collision on the National/Financial Post website

There now seems to be a trenchcoat war brewing between journalists over the Climategate whitewashes and the recent “blacklist”. For example, the WSJ recently ran a story on the folly of the Muir-Russell inquiry, and is being lambasted for taking a stand on the skeptical side. One journalistic camp accepts the blacklist and inquiry decision without question, the other camp sees through it and questions why such basic things as why the inquiries never talked to the plaintiffs (skeptics) and why climate activists need such a list at all except to isolate people.

One such war of words is taking place in an unlikely place ; on the pages of the Financial Post in Canada.

Two columns, two opinions. One in my opinion, ugly, the other matter of fact. You be the judge for yourselves which is which.

First excerpts from Jonathan Kay, titled “Bad Science: Global Warming Deniers are a Liability to the Conservative Cause.”

Followed by excerpts from Terrence Corcoran: Bad politics The politicization of climate science reaches new low with the development of a deniers blacklist

Jonathan Kay:

Let me be clear: Climate-change denialism does not comprise a conspiracy theory, per se: Those aforementioned 2% of eminent scientists prove as much. I personally know several denialists whom I generally consider to be intelligent and thoughtful. But the most militant denialists do share with conspiracists many of the same habits of mind. Oxford University scholar Steve Clarke and Brian Keeley of Washington University have defined conspiracy theories as those worldviews that trace important events to a secretive, nefarious cabal; and whose proponents consistently respond to contrary facts not by modifying their hypothesis, but instead by insisting on the existence of ever-wider circles of high-level conspirators controlling most or all parts of society. This describes, more or less, how radicalized warming deniers treat the subject of their obsession: They see global warming as a Luddite plot hatched by Greenpeace, the Sierra Club and Al Gore to destroy industrial society. And whenever some politician, celebrity or international organization expresses support for the all-but-unanimous view of the world’s scientific community, they inevitably will respond with a variation of “Ah, so they’ve gotten to them, too.”

In support of this paranoid approach, the denialists typically will rely on stray bits of discordant information — an incorrect reference in a UN report, a suspicious-seeming “climategate” email, some hypocrisy or other from a bien-pensant NGO type — to argue that the whole theory is an intellectual house of cards. In these cases, one can’t help but be reminded of the folks who point out the fluttering American flag in the moon-landing photos, or the “umbrella man” from the Zapruder film of JFK’s assassination.

In part, blame for all this lies with the Internet, whose blog-from-the-hip ethos has convinced legions of pundits that their view on highly technical matters counts as much as peer-reviewed scientific literature. But there is something deeper at play, too — a basic psychological instinct that public-policy scholars refer to as the “cultural cognition thesis,” described in a recently published academic paper as the observed principle that “individuals tend to form perceptions of risk that reflect and reinforce one or another idealized vision of how society should be organized … Thus, generally speaking, persons who subscribe to individualistic values tend to dismiss claims of environmental risks, because acceptance of such claims implies the need to regulate markets, commerce and other outlets for individual strivings.”

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Terrence Corcoran:

The reason for noting all this is that “Expert Credibility in Climate Change” was the spring board for a piece in yesterday’s National Post by Jonathan Kay, titled “Bad Science: Global Warming Deniers are a Liability to the Conservative Cause.” The paper, he said, shows that only a tiny sliver of fringe opinion held skeptical views of climate science, and that fringe smacks of right-wing conspiratorial craziness. “One can’t help but be reminded of the folks who point out the fluttering American flag in the moon landing photos, or the ‘umbrella man’ from the Zapruder film of JFK’s assassination.”

One of the first principles of good science and even in life is that before you start jumping up and down on the diving board to do a cannonball into the pool, it is best to first make sure there is water in the pool. This is especially true if the pool is maintained by the scientific mop-and-pail crew that produced “Expert Credibility in Climate Change.”

The paper was cited on Green blogs such as desmogblog as the work of “Stanford University researchers” and by Mr. Kay as “scholars” from Stanford University and the University of Toronto.

Let me introduce the scholars.

James W. Prall, a system administrator and tech support contact for all research computing at the Edward S. Rogers Sr. Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering (ECE) at the University of Toronto. That’s his day job. When not doing that, Mr. Prall spends his free time developing and maintaining a list of some 2,100 climate scientists and ranking them according to whether or not they are climate deniers. Mr. Prall’s academic background is unclear, although his blog site informs he is a Virgo. His views of climate issues are clear, however. He is “all too familiar with the tiny minority of ‘climate skeptics’ or ‘deniers’ who try to minimize the problem, absolve humans of any major impact, or suggest there is no need to take any action. I’ve gotten pretty fed up with the undue weight given to the skeptics in the media and online.”

William R. L. Anderegg, the lead author of the paper, is a biology student at Stanford who did his honours thesis on wetland bird populations. He is a climate activist and a member of Students for a Sustainable Stanford. His picture suggests a free spirit. Astrological sign not readily available.

Jacob Harold, who holds an MBA from Stanford’s business school, makes his main living as a program officer in the philanthropy program at The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, set up by one of the founders of Hewlett-Packard and now a giant $7-billion cash machine for green activism and research all over North America, including Canada’s anti-fish farm movement. Mr. Harold’s staff bio at Hewlett says he spent a year “as a grassroots organizer with Green Corps, where he led campaigns on climate change, forest protection and tobacco control.” There is nothing in the postings to indicate whether the Hewlett Foundation funded the black list paper or Mr. Prall’s research. Nor is it clear what role Mr. Harold played in the research.

Stephen H. Schneider is the only member of the four co-authors who can claim status as a scholar. He is Professor of Environmental Biology and Global Change at Stanford University, author of 450 scientific papers, and a genuine climate scientist, including a lead author on the 2007 Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Without Prof. Schneider as a co-author, it seems doubtful the prestigious National Academy of Sciences would have published “Expert Credibility in Climate Change.”

Prof. Schneider is also notorious for his views on how climate science should be conducted. Climate scientists, he once said, are like most people. “We’d like to see the world a better place, which in this context translates into our working to reduce the risk of potentially disastrous climatic change. To do that we need to get some broad-based support, to capture the public’s imagination. That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have. “

That’s the scholarly science team that’s maintaining the pool that Jonathan Kay is jumping into, the only scholar being a man who believes in scary scenarios and avoiding doubts.

UPDATE: While both articles are presented here for readers, over at Climate Progress, Joe Romm doesn’t have the integrity to put up excerpts and links to both sides of what’s going on at that newspaper, only the side he likes, while at the same time bashing WUWT saying it has reached “peak traffic”. Heh. Will he post excerpts or links to Corcoran’s essay to give CP even a thin residue of balance? Doubtful.

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Gail Combs
July 17, 2010 4:43 pm

James Sexton July 17, 2010 at 10:11 am

When did concern for individual liberties and freedom become solely a conservative issue? Mike, I’m a conservative. Both fiscally and socially. But individual liberties and freedom isn’t exclusively the purview nor the providence of conservatives.
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_Jim says:
July 17, 2010 at 12:08 pm
HA! Insanity … point to a single librul in our congress now who is working for ‘individual liberties and freedom’ … I see not a one, less I have missed something. Would you care to enlighten us/me on same?
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The “things” in Washington DC are not Liberals or Conservatives, they are politicians and therefore by definition have sold their souls to the highest bidder and that is NOT the voters.
There are actually some very good hearted caring people of the liberal or Conservative persuasion. Most equate the problems in government they see with either “socialism or “capitalism” when it is actually neither. It is “corporatism” a poisonous collusion of government and corporations that takes on the appearance of either “socialism or “capitalism” depending on the viewpoint of the viewer who is unaware “corporatism” exists. Corporations are NOT in favor of Capitalism because that promotes honest competition. Corporations much rather have regulations they administer through the corporate/government revolving door. This allows the cartels immunity to the regulations while using the regulations to stifle competition.

Tim
July 17, 2010 4:54 pm

As long as they keep using the “denier” moniker I refuse to listen to anything they say. By using that they are showing how easy they are to manipulate. How low they will go? All in the avoidance of discussing the technical issue. Sad, pathetic and insulting.
To all people out there who label skeptics as “deniers” I can only say:
I’VE BEEN CALLED A LOT WORSE BY A LOT BETTER!

Gail Combs
July 17, 2010 4:59 pm

Richard M says:
July 17, 2010 at 2:29 pm
The article by Kay is so bad it makes all warmists look idiotic. And then, we have those like Roddy that drop in and demonstrate their own total lack of knowledge. Let’s face it, anyone who thinks skeptics are worried about cow-farts is so far out in left field they will never return. Those that support this nonsense sully themselves.
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Actually I am very worried about cow-farts Why?? Because East Anglia and friends are recommending to the UK government that the UK wipe out 80% of their livestock herds to help meet their carbon emissions quota. Ad that to the biofuel idiocy in the USA as well as the grain traders convincing governments to cease stock piling grain and you have a real recipe for disaster.
If you are not a farmer, let me make it clear livestock are normally raised on hilly, rocky areas unsuitable for raising crops so cutting the livestock herds DOES cut the food supply, a high quality food supply that can not easily be replaced. Meat supplies the Docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) and vitamin B12 needed for good brain and nerve health.

TomRude
July 17, 2010 5:22 pm

Funny how the Winnipegers are rejoicing at DeepClimate… Oh yeah, you know the Maple Leaf guy…

F. Ross
July 17, 2010 5:32 pm


Gail Combs says:
July 17, 2010 at 4:07 pm
F. Ross says:
July 17, 2010 at 8:45 am

Gentle chide. I think you attribute to me a post which I did not make, though I do agree with it.

Theo Goodwin
July 17, 2010 6:47 pm

Gail Combs writes:
“If you are not a farmer, let me make it clear livestock are normally raised on hilly, rocky areas unsuitable for raising crops so cutting the livestock herds DOES cut the food supply, a high quality food supply that can not easily be replaced.”
A farmer who actually knows farming! Hat off to you. And all those sheep in Scotland exist on what is, for all practical purposes, a desert. How can Greens be so ignorant?

pls
July 17, 2010 7:02 pm

@ShrNfr “About the only science in which a consensus is even remotely valid is medicine.”
Although science is a part, medicine itself is not a science. It is a craft.

James Sexton
July 17, 2010 8:44 pm

For the few people that used my posts and the people that didn’t, thank you for the kindness. After re-reading my posts, I could have and should have been more clear in my writings and better practiced in the English language.(Seeing that it is my first and only language.) In spite of my inarticulate mannerisms, Gail Combs and F. Ross seemed to grasp my meanings.
_Jim says:
July 17, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Jim, as you know, there is not one in congress. While this is supposed to be a republic (representative of the public), I find that it is not. Dogma seems to rule the day, for now. Given the expressed views of some of the espoused conservatives, (witness Mr. Kay) it is my sincere hope that their views are in no way attached to or contrived to be attached to mine.

July 17, 2010 9:31 pm

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the/print
The Washington Post editorialized that the attorney general’s demands for data amounted to “an assault on reason.” The fact that the “hockey stick” conclusion stands discredited and Mann and associates are on record manipulating peer review, the fact that science-by-secret-data is an oxymoron, the very distinction between truth and error, all matter far less to the ruling class than the distinction between itself and those they rule.
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If anybody is still around on this thread… This is an awesome article.. Pass it on…

July 18, 2010 6:05 am

The discussion ongoing above regarding more accurate ‘labelling’ of one’s political views is a topic of much interest in political science, and very important given the popular alarmist talking point of writing sceptics off as “right wing nutters”. Such accusers never seem to be aware that there are some self-identified prominent ‘left’ sites and thinkers that regularly issue sceptical views on CAGW (for example, Counterpunch, Spiked etc).
For those who haven’t already come across it, I highly recommend consulting the political compass, it is one model (amongst several) that move people away from the typically binary political categorisation. The black/white categories are worse than useless because they force people unecessarily into camps, whereas in reality people’s political views can be multipolar and sophisticated.

jorgekafkazar
July 18, 2010 6:14 pm

The first thing I thought of when reading Kay’s piece was Richard Nixon’s: “Let me make one thing perfectly clear…!”

Tommy
July 19, 2010 8:53 am

I wonder if Kay will admit that he doubts in the existence of conspiracies? Would that make him a conspiracy denialist?

Russell Seitz
July 19, 2010 11:23 am

Heartland’s compilation of cranks is to the actual climate science literature as a reel of Road Runner cartoons is to the law of gravity.

July 31, 2010 7:27 am

I had time for Johnathan Kay because he has defended individuals by commenting strongly on the behaviour of protesters at the G8-G20 summit meetings in Toronto Canada.
However he seems to commit the “consensus” fallacy in his criticism of skeptics. What matters is the truth, not prevailing opinion. Fundamental advances in medical care that we take for granted today, such as control of infections, were achieved by individuals in the face of groupthink. Essential advances in freedom, such as abolition of slavery in England, were achieved by a small number of individuals who set out to change voters’ minds.
Kay has a shortage mentality, evidenced by his desire to “balance human consumption with responsible environmental stewardship”, which ignores that humans create and produce for life. He rants against the social system that actually feeds people, individual freedomunlike the fixed-pie ones such as Marxism.
(He also does not see the pattern of behaviour in alarmist actions, both private and public. They are not people confident of their knowledge, rather they use falacious arguments like “consensus” , “the science is settled” (when it is clearly immature – there is much to learn), connive to prevent their opponents from being published , and try to smear intimidate their opponents in public meetings and media appearances.
Kay turns out to be another confused loose cannon – a “green neck”? (There is a mindset about that appears to support police/defense but is paranoid about economics and chemicals – Kay seems to fit that. )