You just have to laugh when you see articles like this.
Excerpts from an article by Mike Sandler:
Humans have put too many heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, and now the Earth is running a fever. But there’s also an increasingly toxic atmosphere in the blogosphere, where climate deniers strategically confuse the issue, delay meaningful government action, and harass scientists and authors.
For decades, the media presented the climate “debate” as two sides that were evenly or closely matched. Then a few years ago, around the time Hurricane Katrina struck and Al Gore’s Inconvenient Truth won an Oscar and he and the IPCC were awarded a Nobel Prize, the media began to realize that climate science is real and has consequences, and the “other side” is almost all empty rhetoric.
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More sophisticated denier methods often appeal to:
- Free speech (as if achieving consensus on climate science somehow takes away their Constitutional rights) or
- The nature of scientific inquiry means always questioning your assumptions (ironically, the people who question the science of climate change, are likely those who question all science).
Gosh, excercising free speech and questioning assumptions, why, why, they’re TERRIBLE!
You can read the whole thing here. but I wouldn’t count on being able to leave comments:
Climate Deniers are Polluting the Blogosphere
Of course the thought hasn’t occurred to Mr. Sandler that the bulk of opinion has shifted.
Yuck. I clicked the link and was re-directed to HuffPo, presumably giving them a web-hit. I feel dirty.
My post last night didn’t get through.
I suppose it was just too much genuine information for them.
I’ll huff and I’ll huff and I’ll huff your po down.
This illustrates the watermelons’ totalitarian tendencies. All unacceptable thoughts must be purged as intellectual pollution.
Rather scary really.
Smokey (21:03:09) :
“I’ve known plenty of Russians from my business in Sacramento, California. They are extremely wise to the ways of the world, and they make alarmist Americans look like fools.”
I was studying in Switzerland while the US was in the panic about saccharin. CANCER IN RATS! – if you gave them the equivalent of a human drinking 5000 DietRite colas a day. The US was laughed at on a daily basis, I caught the brunt of it, being a ready target and all. They kept saying something about the non-linear behavior of the body… and I agreed. Why is it that non-linearity seems to give the panic artists problems continually.
Now, it’s sad that some of the institutions which gave the world some of the sharpest thinkers in world history, are now producing non-thinkers, PNS tribesmen.
Old tactics, attack the messenger, not the message. Confuse the issue, obscure the facts, and then make the lie large enough only few would believe you’d dare to say such a thing.
It has served governments well in the past, at great cost.
Tenuc (00:56:38) :
“After reading that load of hogwash at HP, I’ve concluded that it’s not the blogosphere which is clogged up, it’s Mike Sandler’s brain!”
Um, I think Sandler’s problem is a bit lower down because he’s certainly full of…
Gixxerboy (02:25:09) :
…..Then there’s the truly bonkers “If there’s no action before 2012,” says Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the Nobel peace-prize-winning IPCC, “that’s too late. What we do in the next two to three years will determine our future. This is the defining moment.”
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Rajendra Pachauri was actually speaking the truth. If the UN does not manage to get their world wide tax through NOW it will be too late. The sun is quiet, the ocean cycles are turning, the ocean heat “has gone missing” and the Hoaxsters are well aware the earth’s climate is not cooperating. Climategate, IPPC gate and the blogosphere have the neutrals (the majority of people) starting to question whether the politicians are pulling a fast one on them… AGAIN. Changing the chant from “Global Warming” to “Climate Change” shows they know the jig is almost up.
I usually ignore references to Wikipedia, but in this case it seems appropriate:
“The Huffington Post has over 3,000 bloggers—from politicians and celebrities to academics and policy experts—who contribute in real-time on a wide-range of topics.”
What, no real scientists? Who would have guessed.
” Among those who have blogged on the site are Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Heather Robinson, Michael Moore, Jimmy Demers, Madonna, Alec Baldwin, Norman Mailer, Saskia Sassen, Sheryl Sandberg, John Cusack, Larry David, Nora Ephron, Madeleine Albright, Robert Redford, Anneli Rufus, Neil Young, Rahm Emanuel, Albert Brooks, Mia Farrow, Russ Feingold, Al Franken, Ari Emanuel, Gary Hart, Edward Kennedy, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Jamie Lee Curtis, Ryan Reynolds, Craig Newmark, Donna Karan, Kenneth Cole, Ryan J. Davis, Donatella Versace, Bill Maher, B.D. Gallof, Lutfullah Kamran, M. K. Asante, Jr., Robert Wright, and Larry Gelbart.”
What a wide variety of experts in all fields. Wow, I am really impressed.
Amazing biased article.
Is it time for a solar update? Sunspots have stopped appearing and none seem on the horizon, based on STEREO.
The Warmers are still looking for a brand for us sceptics. First we were Global Warming Deniers. Then we were Climate Change Deniers. Now, according to Mr Sandler, we’re simply ‘Climate Deniers.’
For decades the media presented both sides of the debate evenly.
When did the debate occur.For years we’ve heard the debate is over but I don’t ever remember hearing of any.When you try to debate Gore and the rest of the globalwarming crowd they either walk away or cut your mike off .
And as for Katrina wasn’t that a record year for hurricanes ? But you never hear of the other’s .There were 28 either t/s or cat 1 to 5 hurricanes with 3 being cat 5 storms.Never no word on there other storms.The hurricane isn’t what killed so many in New Orleans.It was the levees which needed repairing years ago but the money was always spent elsewhee.
Gixxerboy (02:25:09) :
“If there’s no action before 2012,” says Rajendra Pachauri…
but,but,but Gordon Brown said we have only 18 months ? And thats already ,say, 4 months ago?
2012?
puh!
There was another silly article written the other day in the Huff post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dk-matai/are-global-warming-volcan_b_550936.html
This is almost as much fun as when WUWT posted that Disco Bay post and everyone went on and commented on it LOL
The amount of clogging by the ‘deniers’ of the blogosphere compared to the total amount of the blogoshphere is like CO2 to the climate………irrelevant!!
But i think it’s a good idea that hadn’t occurred to me before 🙂 and shall start poste haste!!!
The only ones in denial are the AGW supporters. The volume of data which is inconsistent with the AGW hypothesis is enormous & growing all the time.
The typical AGW response : continue to to ignore the data if it doesn’t conform to the gospel of algore. Now they suggest that we should get rid of free speech because they aren’t getting their way. This is not communist Russia, comrades. If you had stronger arguments, then may be you wouldn’t need to shut down free speech to win the debate. Think about it. Your statements alone that free speech should be limited & scientific debate shouldn’t allowed show how weak your arguments are. If your arguments were strong, they would be self-evident & you would be winning the debate. The reality is that skeptical arguments are much stronger & the public is seeing that. The public is seeing that AGW is nothing more than a stalking horse for the political left, especially the far left. By whining about how unfair the blogosphere is, you are just enhancing the publics perception this is all about politics & providing further ammunition to destroy your own point of view. As much as you hate it, people aren’t that stupid & they can see when someone is trying to pull the wool over their eyes. The louder you whine about how it’s not fair that you are loosing the debate, the more the masses see that the threat of AGW is grossly overstated & that it is actually just about politics (which, if you haven’t noticed, people aren’t too happy with anything political these days).
Disco Duck.
It is only a matter of time before media-savvy greenvangelists get caught engaging in sleazy CO2 producing activity and must tearfully whimper and whine to their supportive audience, begging, and apparently getting, forgiveness for their nasty activities. They are burning down their own house of cards.
That said, it is rather fun to watch, point fingers, and giggle over their writhings.
It doesn’t take much to leaven the loaf. What an amazingly versatile thing CO2 is!
The article is an insult, in many ways, to the own author who wrote it. Sorry to say but posting this in WUWT is giving the article a publicity that it does not deserve.
I think it has been 24 months since ‘Prince’ Charles warned the world, we only had 18 months to Stop Climate Change Disaster!
“In May 2008, Prince Charles warned we had just 18 months before the world faced a series of natural disasters.
“We will end up seeing more drought and starvation on a grand scale. Weather patterns will become even more terrifying and there will be less and less rainfall,” he said.
…how’d that work out for ya?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100121033000AAq4zf8
Thanks Anthony for drawing attention to Huffpos ravings.
When I see someone parroting the newly invented mantra about previous warm periods being limited and not global, I know they havent read the primary scientific literature, and are not sufficiently aware of the evidence.
In the four months I have followed the “clogged up” blogosphere, the rants, aggression and fanaticism seem to be concentrated at pro-AGW sites, whereas WUWT and other “denier” haunts seem to be more interested in facts and discussion. A pity the majority of the academic community hasnt woken up to this. But perhaps there is movement..
Keep up the good work of trying to use reason and information (while giving us a laugh from time to time at the expense of the nutcases… )
kim (05:04:22) :
What? There is sabotage of the transnational machinery? Well, if we feed the malcontents feet first it could be most educational.
Nup — just noisy.
So there he was, an angry clown yelling! And he was yelling at me!
“You have put too many heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere! The Earth is running a fever.” “It’s ALL your fault!!” And I was scared. Scared of the clown. He was coming after me! I did it! I put those many gasses in the air. He was yelling at me that it was – my fault!
And I was overwhelmed by the logical lucidity and in-depth scientific fluency of his words: “heat-trapping,” “to many,” “fever,” “trapping, trapping, trapping.” “gases!” OH MY! What should I do?
Struck thusly, with an overwhelming feeling of responsibility for all of you and the whole world, OH MY, I immediately started researching “heat-trapping” as a process of gases, which ones are wont to do that and how many are “too many” – I had to know, I had to get away! I had to stop! It was MY fault! But I couldn’t as an over abundance of blood rushed to my head causing an excess of kinetic energy to manifest itself therein. OH MY, the clowns hot gassing had given ME a fever!
Then I woke up in a cold sweat and realized it was just a nightmare. Gosh, I hate clowns.
“…delay meaningful government action…”
Right. The kind that has meaning for big business and will result in windfall profits for carbon traders.
Replace “meaningful” with “corporatist” and you’ve got an accurate description of what “deniers” like me hope to prevent.