Royal Ash: Royal society jumps on magma driven worry express

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While volcanic ash falls on Britain, in yet another assault on reason, the Royal Society has warned :

In papers published by the Royal Society, researchers warned that melting ice, sea level rises and even increasingly heavy storms and rainfall – predicted consequences of rising temperatures – could affect the Earth’s crust.

I also watched the movies 2012 and The Day After Tomorrow,  but apparently I didn’t take them as seriously as some – Zombieland was probably more realistic.

As the land ”rebounds” back up once the weight of the ice has been removed – which could be by as much as a kilometre in places such as Greenland and Antarctica – then if, in the worst case scenario, all the ice were to melt – it could trigger earthquakes. The increase in seismic activity could, in turn, cause underwater landslides that spark tsunamis. A potential additional risk is from ”ice-quakes” generated when the ice sheets break up, causing tsunamis which could threaten places such as New Zealand, Newfoundland in Canada and Chile.

Pleeezzz  …. Even if these claims worth worth considering, it would take tens or hundreds of thousands of years for Greenland and Antarctica to melt.

Back in the real world we hear from the Icelandic Meteorological Service that the glacier is what is causing the ash :

Einar Kjartansson, a geophysicist at the Meteorological Office.believes the volcano has melted about 10 percent of the glacier

It still could take months for the volcano to burn through the rest of the glacier, to a point where the steam and ash would turn instead into lava, he said.

What he is saying is that the sooner the glacier melts, the sooner the volcanic hazards will subside.   This must be tough to swallow for people who believe that world is better off when it is cold and icy.

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enneagram
April 20, 2010 9:05 am

BTW What did happend with the Catlin expedition?

enneagram
April 20, 2010 9:13 am

Layne Blanchard (08:01:45) : Take a look at this
http://www.scribd.com/doc/28560923/Earthquake-Planets-2

enneagram
April 20, 2010 9:29 am

R. de Haan (06:20:09) :We should pray for the next Katla volcano eruption ☺, so Katla and Eyjafjallajoekull (*) would beat by far anthropogenic CO2 emissions thus making any related taxation even more stupid, as it always was .
(*)Pasted name ☺

Zeke the Sneak
April 20, 2010 9:43 am

enneagram (09:29:33) :
We should pray for the next Katla volcano eruption ☺, so Katla and Eyjafjallajoekull (*) would beat by far anthropogenic CO2 emissions thus making any related taxation even more stupid, as it always was .

And we should pray that the policy makers will say what they are really thinking and doing. To them it is a great curse! 😀

Kitefreak
April 20, 2010 10:31 am

From BBC ‘news’ website today
( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8631775.stm )
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Promiscuous women are responsible for earthquakes, a senior Iranian cleric has said.
Hojatoleslam Kazem Sedighi told worshippers in Tehran last Friday that they had to stick to strict codes of modesty to protect themselves.
“Many women who do not dress modestly lead young men astray and spread adultery in society which increases earthquakes,” he said.
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No more wacky than saying CO2 causes earthquakes.
Oh, and there’s that ‘repentance’ thing again:
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Mr Sedighi was delivering a sermon on the need for a “general repentance” by Iranians.
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I’m just constantly struck by the parallels and similarities between organised religion and the UN’s climate change scare programme (the whole AGW thing).
Basically, they’re saying to us:
“You’ve caused this! With your SUVs and all your foreign holidays, your blatant disregard for the contentment of Gaia. YOUR carbon footprints have trodden all over the Great Mother Gaia, and now you must pay! [cackling laughter in background].
So, now, you’re not getting to fly anymore! [more cackling laughter in background]. Yes, it’s a little penance you must pay, your holiday ruined, air travel restricted.
So now you must repent of your sins and get used to having a shit life, because we’re going ahead with our plan anyway – whether you like it or not.”
Let $%^$£Gfvegrskull be a warning to ye all!
Sorry folks, it’s just that the stuff they’re coming away with these days, well, it has descended into farce, it really has.

enneagram
April 20, 2010 10:40 am

Zeke the Sneak (09:43:34) :policy makers will say what they are really thinking and doing
They just obey and excecute their masters’ will.

Kitefreak
April 20, 2010 10:46 am

Jeff in Ctown (Canada) (08:12:10) :
“Next, as things seem to move in slow motion under the water, would underwater landslides realy spark tsunamis?”.
I think the answer to that is yes.
It’s all about displacement.

matt v.
April 20, 2010 11:01 am

We should not loose track of other world wide active volcanoes as well. Here is a list of all major eruptions [ 5 VEI AND UP] since 800 AD. More recently we are having a major eruptions about 1.2 per decade[12 in the 1900’s]
ALL MAJOR VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS BY CENTURY
[LEVEL 5 AND UP ( PER VOLCANIC EXPLOSIVITY INDEX OR VEI) IN BRACKETS]
800 -20[3]
900 -10[3]
1000-12[5]
1100 -8[3]
1200 -9[2]
1300-14[3]
1400-13[5]
1500-21[4]
1600-32[12]
1700-35[4]
1800-44[8]
1900-79[12]
2000-?
TOTAL 297[64]
Better record keeping and detection could account for some of the recent increase especially the 1900’s increase when compared to previous eruptions.
There are about 39 Volcanoes with active eruptions in 2010 world wide
All data from
http://www.volcano.si.edu/world/largeeruptions.cfm
Note There about 33 Volcanoes[Holocene] in the Iceland and Arctic region

Jack Simmons
April 20, 2010 11:31 am

Here is the real cause of all the earthquake activity.
Just remember, you read it here first.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life/relationships/man-woman/Extramarital-sex-causes-earthquakes/articleshow/5835086.cms

Extramarital sex causes earthquakes
Attractive women who dress inappropriately cause youth to go astray and “incite extramarital sex in society, which increases earthquakes”, a hardline Iranian cleric has said.
Ayatollah Kazem Sedighi told worshippers that women who wear fashionable clothes and apply make-up cause youth to “go astray” and have affairs. As a result, the country that is bound by several fault lines experienced more ‘calamities’ such as earthquakes, The Telegraph reported Tuesday.

April 20, 2010 11:32 am

Mack28 (19:18:36) :
Even the frogs aren’t safe – and we’re not talking about French chefs:
“But this sensitivity to the local environment makes frogs particularly vulnerable to climate change. Even modest predictions for Britain, that will see temperatures rise by around 2C (3.6F) over the next 50 years, will be too much for the frogs to cope with.”

Right. Frogs were around before there was *grass* on earth, but they can’t possibly survive a temperature increase of four-tenths of a degree Cee per decade.
There’s obviously not enough chlorine in the gene pool…

enneagram
April 20, 2010 11:43 am

Jack Simmons (11:31:26) :
Here is the real cause of all the earthquake activity

Here, too, from an Indian University (no joke):
http://www.scribd.com/doc/28560923/Earthquake-Planets-2

enneagram
April 20, 2010 11:47 am

Green loons again:
Bidding process on huge Amazon dam suspended again
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100420/ap_on_bi_ge/lt_brazil_amazon_dam

Neo
April 20, 2010 12:00 pm

I went to see 2012 with my kids and brother.
One moviegoer next to us got enraged at the amount of laughter generated in our row of seats. It was so far over the top that we couldn’t stop laughing.
The morbid scene of building crashing down with people hanging out of the broken structures while the bozos in the plane magically managed to avoid every disaster headed their way was just too unbelievable to be taken seriously.

Jim
April 20, 2010 12:54 pm

To borrow some “logic” from the Hon Congressional Rep Johnson from Decatur, GA when he questioned the Admiral heading Pacific Operations before the Armed Services Committee, ‘should we not be concerned with all these additional people in Great Britain due to cancelled flights that the island may flip over, capsize?’ Yes, he actually said that in reference to adding 8000 more troops in the pacific, Guam, I believe. But he was just kidding, says his office. I saw the video. Stoned, maybe, kidding, no. These people are in charge, so why all the surprise that science is no longer scientific?

Bob
April 20, 2010 1:31 pm

It is very disheartening to see the Royal Society abandoning real science and entering the realm of Hollywood science fiction. In a desperate bid to stay relevant they are grasping at straws and it appears any straw will do. This is getting embarassing.

Liam
April 20, 2010 3:08 pm

The real cause of Earthquakes:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8631775.stm
I’m waiting for some knowledgeable papers from the Royal Society, explaining that Global Warming makes girls go round in skimpy clothes.

LarryOldtimer
April 20, 2010 4:39 pm

When I was a lad in high school, 1949-1953, I thought, “How nice it is to live in an age of reason.” Then Rachel Carlson got her book “Silent Spring” published in 1962,, and the age of reason quickly turned into the age of alarmism, and has continued to deteriorate ever since. Alarmism has become the cash cow for PhDs in universities and for government bureaucrats. It is far past the time when these surplus PhDs and bureaucrats had to do useful work that actually accomplished something. We, the taxed public, are paying huge sums of our money to support what are no more than very expensive personal hobbies.

Evan Jones
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April 20, 2010 4:53 pm

Alarmism has become the cash cow for PhDs in universities
I think it’s the getting laid part that keeps the market going.

davidmhoffer
April 20, 2010 6:31 pm

LarryOldTimer
Alarmism has become the cash cow for PhDs in universities>>
What? They’re using the ash to raise cash? The ash comes from a hole in the ground? So they are throwing our cash into the hole and all we get is the ash? Is that what they mean by burning cash? Holy cow. Does anyone know how many cash cows the ash hole can absorb? Do cash cows emitt methane like regular cows? Might the methane collect and explode, spewing ash and cash and cows? Would this damage the hole? Does the hole have feelings? Does it feel pain? Would it sue, demanding more cash for the resulting Royal pain in the ash hole?
Have to go now, wife being very insistant I take my medication.

April 21, 2010 2:04 am

so why not just be like some Ozzies and have a positive attitue to volcanic ash?
says Iceland’s volcanic carbon emissions are good news for plant growth and the current eruptions give an indication of the potential for carbon emissions from future volcanos.
“We are living in a period of volcanic quiescence, as we haven’t had a dirty big eruption since 1912; and this is a small eruption but it is giving us the window into what a very big eruption would be like.”
http://just-me-in-t.blogspot.com/2010/04/volcano-climate-change.html

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