"It really shows what's been going on in the Arctic – it's falling apart."

Via Tom Nelson:

Another warmist in the Arctic: GE sponsors 15-year-old on polar trip.

Parker Liautaud will ski to the North Pole

Photo courtesy of GE and Scott Draper

Shortly after twice reporting a temperature of -34 C, he suggests that the ice is “falling apart” around him.

Skiing and trekking to the North Pole: Parker Liautaud blogs to save the earth – Update

Parker Liautaud, 15 years old, is reporting on his progress skiing his way to the North Pole. He has made his goal to become the youngest person to ski to the North Pole, and to use that attempt to bring greater awareness to the urgent environmental issues of the arctic.

And more importantly for his purpose of letting the world see the ravages of global warming on the arctic – There was a lot of open water today. It really shows what’s been going on in the Arctic – it’s falling apart. Right now we’re camping on this patch of old ice, but all around us is open water, broken and thin ice. To our north there’s a massive pan of very thin ice. Everything is freshly frozen, if not open.

That’s called “leads” kid, part of the regular landscape well before your trip. Oh but wait…what is the Temperature? Thanks to Twitter reports we know.

Twitter / Parker Liautaud: Temp -34, Windchill -42. W …

Temp -34, Windchill -42. We did about 11 Nm today, it was a really good day. We have about 35 Nm left, and about 5 before we’re half way. 3:00 PM Apr 4th via API   [His previous tweet also reported a temperature of -34]

Son of Venture Capitalist Gets Foursquare Badge for Polar Trip – DealBook Blog – NYTimes.com

Normally if you’re the teenage child of a multimillionaire, you might expect a nice car or designer clothing as a present, VentureBeat reported.

But if you’re the 15-year-old scion of Bernard Liautaud, who founded and later sold Business Objects to SAP for $6.78 billion and is now a partner at Balderton Capital, you can probably do a lot better.

Mr. Liautaud fils rounded up a sponsorship from G.E. for a trip to the North Pole promoting environmental awareness.

Of course, anybody can go to the North Pole, and blog about it, by paying a tour guide like this one that is with the 15 year old right now.

From the San Fransisco Examiner “offbeat places” blog:

Parker’s journey is part of an expedition that is open to the public. For more than 10 years, Doug Stoup has been guiding teams across the frozen Arctic Ocean and Antarctica. From numerous ‘Last Degree‘ treks to his most recent 660-mile  epic journey to the South Pole.

Cost: €25,700 but for a quickie (I’ll bet you didn’t know you could do this as a quickie), fly from Longyearbyen to Ice Station Barneo, then take a helicopter to 89.599? North. Spend some quality time on the ice for photos and celebration and then return. Cost: €16,900.

I always like to encourage young minds in science, but this is just a glorified field trip with a guide. What a bunch of suckers GE is for paying for such an expedition.

The ice from Cryosphere Today looks better than 30 years ago.

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Robert Kral

I’ve really got to think hard about selling my GE stock. What a bunch of nonsense.

Jeremy

GE’s Immelt has been serving gallons of the green koolaid too. GE stands to gain enormously from energy related mandates from western governments (subsidies and industrial upgrades). He is in cahoots with MIT’s President Susan Hockfield both preaching unfounded doomsday scenarios and helping stuffing MIT with funding grants.
It would be funny if it was not all so disgustingly dishonest – pigs at the trough.

Patrick Davis

There are always well funded fools who are quickly separated from their money.

Lance H.

Daddy made a cool 6.8 Billion and they had to sucker GE to foot the tab?
I guess daddy likes playing with OPM.

Claude Harvey

How’s the poor rich kid going to react when he grows up and discovers Dada let him go out and make a complete fool of himself at such a tender age? On second thought, it probably won’t really affect him because by that time he’ll have been inducted into the school of “Truth doesn’t matter, but there’s money to be made in publicity – any kind of publicity”.

George Turner

Ernest Shackleton and the rest of the crew of the [i]Endurance[/i] must be rolling their eyes. The ice heaves, groans, splits, and moves. Routes open and close, and Shackleton’s crew pushed and carried their boats to take advantage of patches of open water until they could get free of the ice and get stranded elsewhere.
In the arctic, people are like little ants on frozen flotsam trying not to die in one of a dozen horrible ways. There’s a reason the permanent human population on the arctic sea ice stubbornly remains at zero, and it’s not because lettuce doesn’t grow there.
On the other hand, should this kid survive his journey, both it and his father’s money is bound to get him laid with scores of hippie chicks. So he needs to ask himself one thing: Does his father prefer that he tragically die a horrible death while innocently trying to save the planet, or is his father betting on plan B, that the kid survives and moves in with a couple of hippie chicks, leading to a life of disolution and ending in an inevitable drug overdose?
Option C, that the kid is rescued by a US attack submarine investigating a crashed alien space ship, then transported into the alien space ship and eventually to an alien planet, though unlikely, would still get him out of the house and out of dad’s hair, so it would also satisfy dad’s goal.
If I was fifteen and surrounded by hundreds of miles of heaving ice, that’s what would be running through my head. How about you?

Douglas DC

Sooner or later, “The naked north will win in the end” paraphr. Robert Service.

James Allison

Kinda on topic. 🙂
Please visit to participate in “The next big scare” competition.
http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB20001424052702304017404575165573845958914-lMyQjAyMTAwMDAwNjEwNDYyWj.html

R Shearer

It’s the worst he’s seen in his entire life!

kuhnkat

25,900 Euros. Wonder how many children in a thrid world country could get food, medicine, and clothing for that??
Oh, sorry, humans are the cause of the problem and should be killed, er, culled till they can’t damage Gaia.

Related…
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bdneX1djD0&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0]

gt

I hope this kid won’t increase his carbon footprint unnecessarily by needing a rescue team to save his sorry backside from getting frostbite.

bikermailman

George Turner (20:12:11) :
Option C, that the kid is rescued by a US attack submarine investigating a crashed alien space ship, then transported into the alien space ship and eventually to an alien planet, though unlikely, would still get him out of the house and out of dad’s hair, so it would also satisfy dad’s goal.

Sounds like a good idea for a Stargate SG1 movie! :p

Clive

Yeah just a stoopid PR effort. As Dave Barry once said “yet another billionaire idiot wanting to balloon around the world.” Same idea. I’d not be sad if the little snot lost his life and his father was sued. Bet they have a chopper on standby at $50,000 per day to save their a$$es if need be.
However, I do have a serious query. Can someone enlighten me please.
There are all sorts of references to multi-year sea ice and how it is ever lower. Yet every year the max ice goes to ~ 14 million sq km and in summer it drops to about 5 million sq km. (Give or take.)
So EVERY year about 2/3s of the sea ice disappears. Ergo every year about 2/3s (+/-) of the winter sea ice is new.
So what is the real story on multi-year sea ice? Seems to me there is never more than 1/3 that is multi-year anyway.
Comments?
Thank you!
Clive

George Turner

Gleaned from Twitter:
Parker L: Trip going well. The guys call me BB, because I’m like a bullet. They let me wear the red parka, which is like the yellow jersey in the Tour de France.
Doug S: We’ve put Bear Bait (BB) in the red parka, which we hope will act like a red shirt on Star Trek and will let us see charging polar bears before they threaten the rest of the crew, who don’t continually whine and complain that the ice is less than perfect. G-d help me, I’m never having children.

Ian Cooper

How is this for a bumper-sticker?
“Save The Planet From The Planet Savers!”

Frederick Michael

And with just a little luck, his publicity stunt will coincide with the news that the Arctic sea ice finally did crack the long term average on the NSIDC plot. I wonder how his GE sponsors will feel then.
Tonight’s JAXA figures show an increase for 4/7 and if the 4/7 NSIDC number does likewise, their plot will bend upwards (maybe retroactively). We’ll know by lunchtime on 4/8. It’ll probably take a couple more good days to nail down this milestone but the weather conditions give it a good shot. If we don’t get it this week, we’ll stay in striking range. It’s bound to happen eventually.

Paul Nevins

I would rate the actions of the parents allowing this stunt as child abuse. What a stupid justification “bring greater awareness” Is there anyone on the planet who hasn’t seen awareness stunts by the score? Either it doesn’t work at all or it isn’t needed take your pick. How often is “awareness” going to be used to justify a foolish counterproductive stunt.
When this kid is injured or killed will his parents and the idiots who fed him this line of rubbish be prosecuted? They certainly should be.
GE is trying to prop up the huge profit for no production they plan to make from carbon trading. The life of one teenager means less than nothing to them.

Graeme From Melbourne

I always like to encourage young minds in science, but this is just a glorified field trip with a guide. What a bunch of suckers GE is for paying for such an expedition.
I don’t think that GE are suckers for paying for this expedition. Given the mega $$$ of future profits that they hope to lock in as a result of rent seeking tax payer funded sales of renewables such as wind power and solar… I would conclude that they are simply ruthless and without scruples rather than ‘suckers’.
This expedition is simply marketing for their scam, same as the caitlan expeditions.
I would be curious to know if the actual $ were drawn down from an internal GE marketing budget.

Tim

If it’s too difficult to argue with skeptic science, conduct a circus.

Jason S

I wouldn’t call GE a bunch of suckers. This is cheap advertising. If overpopulation is the next big hype, they’ll be marketing the products to eradicate that problem.

Paul Z.

How long before this happens in the US and UK?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/kyrgyzstani-government-ousted-in-violent-uprising/article1525821/
Note what caused the tipping point: high energy prices.

Steve Goddard

Catlin has now traveled over 30 miles in only three weeks. They probably should have taken Lewis Pugh’s kayak instead of a human powered dog sled.

Michael

OT but good anti-alarmist story.
Anthropogenic Mud Season, or is it the Sun?
“Real soon here in the Colorado high country, the winter white will give way to ‘green’ as the days get longer. We’re all casting up our pick of date and time when the Dillon Reservoir will officially begin it’s annual thaw. Heck, the melt and mud season will be upon us before you know it. With all this, just like clockwork, springtime also signals the beginning of the annual “Human Caused Climate Change Debate” here in Summit Daily News-land. I figured I’d get a head start this year with a factual scientific perspective before the debate tumbles into the left/right, Big-oil/Greenpeace, political fracas it usually becomes.”
http://www.infowars.com/anthropogenic-mud-season-or-is-it-the-sun/

rbateman

Lastest JAXA AMSR-E extent:
03,25,2003,14800781 – 03,25,2010,14282344 – -518437
03,26,2003,14771094 – 03,26,2010,14264688 – -506406
03,27,2003,14755781 – 03,27,2010,14256719 – -499062
03,28,2003,14718594 – 03,28,2010,14299219 – -419375
03,29,2003,14647031 – 03,29,2010,14363438 – -283593
03,30,2003,14533906 – 03,30,2010,14405781 – -128125
03,31,2003,14428281 – 03,31,2010,14407344 – -20937
04,01,2003,14409219 – 04,01,2010,14395000 – -14219
04,02,2003,14335781 – 04,02,2010,14379531 – 43750
04,03,2003,14250469 – 04,03,2010,14328438 – 77969
04,04,2003,14172813 – 04,04,2010,14264219 – 91406
04,05,2003,14129375 – 04,05,2010,14228281 – 98906
04,06,2003,14098750 – 04,06,2010,14207969 – 109219
04,07,2003,14101719 – 04,07,2010,14220781 – 119062
Just keep right on gaining.
REPLY: The link I use for data here http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/extent/plot.csv
shows different numbers. Where are you getting this? – Anthony

Leon Brozyna

Journalists report on the sexual trysts of many noted personages. And the marriage break-ups that might result.
Journalists relay, with bated breath, tales of celebrities cavorting about town, high on … something. They are equally excited to report on the state of dress (or undress) of these celebrities.
And now these same sort of journalists are barely able to contain their excitement in reporting on the antics of a spoilt child cavorting about the world, offering up his worldly wisdom on the state of the Arctic and the world’s climate.
Oh look. The ice is melting. And it’s cold out. It is unprecedented. How do we know? The press release told us so — as did a well sponsored child. And so we let you know. Research? Naw, we don’t do that sort of dirty work. That’s for the simple-minded reporter. We have a child providing us with inspiration.
+++++++++++++++
Meanwhile, the Catlin adventurers press on. They’ve been self-promoted as being so experienced in the ways of the Arctic. This must be why they came up with the silly idea last year of a 1,000 km in 100 days trek, taking them into the month of June, long past a safe retrieval by plane.
Looks like this year they’ve tempered their plans after last year, by locating much closer to the pole. Let’s hope they don’t push their luck and try to make it to the pole in spite of the evidence that the ice around them may be too thin as the season progresses.

JinOH

George Turner
You nailed it.
😉

K-Bob

It’s the dirty rotten ice again! It’s back this year too!
Can anyone explaing how the second year ice (or multi year ice for that matter) reduces in size from September 2009 to March 2010 per the NSIDC exhibit in their April 6th story? How are they determining this? With ice birthday parties?

Peter of Sydney

Isn’t it about time we charge such people who make exaggerated claims and lies, to bring them to account in a court of law? I’m sick to death with such childish acts that make out to be “scientific” and “truthful” when in fact they are the exact opposite, as true science can prove very easily in any court of law using historical data. In fact why doesn’t someone go out of their way to prove that the Arctic is very healthy and strong. The reason is simple. We are to busy trying to make a living. Obviously there are too many left wing crackpots around who have nothing useful to do looking for any reason to try and keep the AGW fraud and hoax alive.

Dave Wendt

REPLY: The link I use for data here http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/extent/plot.csv
shows different numbers. Where are you getting this? – Anthony
Looks like his numbers are from the daily graphic which is 3 day running averaged. I believe your link shows the unaveraged daily readings.

R. Gates

Rbateman:
Arctic sea ice hit its winter maximum at 14,407,344 on 3/31. Stop the rediculous hype…

AEGeneral

General Electric theater has done a 180.
Time for another choosing.

Richard111

rbateman (21:25:10) :
What is the point of the 2003 ice data?

Dave Wendt

Steve Goddard (21:05:32) :
Catlin has now traveled over 30 miles in only three weeks. They probably should have taken Lewis Pugh’s kayak instead of a human powered dog sled.
Given all the complaints about open water I think I would opt for one of this company’s fine products for the trip.
http://www.terrawind.com/terrawind.htm
The H2OEX and HYDRA-TERRA look more expedition worthy, but to do it with style the TERRA-WIND or HYDRA-SPYDER would even put the Top Bear boys in their Toyota to shame.

Dave Wendt

oops, Top Gear of course!

Frederick Michael

rbateman (21:25:10) :
Lastest JAXA AMSR-E extent:

04,05,2003,14129375 – 04,05,2010,14228281 – 98906
04,06,2003,14098750 – 04,06,2010,14207969 – 109219
04,07,2003,14101719 – 04,07,2010,14220781 – 119062
Just keep right on gaining.
REPLY: The link I use for data here http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/extent/plot.csv
shows different numbers. Where are you getting this? – Anthony

I saw the 14229781 number earlier. I think rbateman downloaded his number before the final posting (14235625)
JAXA posts “today’s” figure around 10pm eastern time but revises it (usually upwards) to a final figure around 11pm eastern time. It is a useful predictor of what the next day’s NSIDC posting will look like.

DeNihilist

Um, this photo is supposed to be on the sea ice? then can someone please explain the tower to the person’s right, and maybe up ahead? I didn’t realize that timber was so able to grow on rotten ice….

Dave Wendt

R. Gates (22:02:17) :
Rbateman:
“Arctic sea ice hit its winter maximum at 14,407,344 on 3/31. Stop the rediculous hype…”
From the bullet points below the daily sea ice graph at IJIS
In principle, SIC data could have errors of 10% at most, particularly for the area of thin sea ice seen around the edge of sea-ice cover and melted sea ice seen in summer. Also, SIC along coastal lines could also have errors due to sub-pixel contamination of land cover in an instantaneous field of view of AMSR-E data.
 
I don’t have my calculator handy, can anyone remind me what 10% of 14.4 million is?

Leon Brozyna

REPLY: The link I use for data here http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/extent/plot.csv
shows different numbers. Where are you getting this? – Anthony

Looks to me that he’s getting the data from the same source, just not up to date. There are only two differences that I found. On April 4, he shows 14,264,219 – which was probably the preliminary figure for the date. The revised figure is 14,280,781. The figure for April 7 of 14,220,781 is also today’s initial figure; the revised value is now listed at 14,235,625, though at 1 am EDT the figure showing on the graph itself was still the initial value.
And before some folk have themselves some sort of seizure, it looks like his point is that (since I too can read the numbers) the ice extent for 2010, in relation to 2003, is ‘gaining’ in that the ice in 2003 melted faster than this year’s ice is melting. Nothing more.

jorgekafkazar

Whenever I see children used for propaganda purposes, I’m reminded of the scene in “Cabaret” where the beautiful, blond Hitlerjugend sings “Fatherland, Fatherland” to a people in a crowded restaurant.

Dr A Burns

GE are also promoting Cap & Trade … great for business when you’re a world leader in manufacturing nuclear power stations and windmills.
I wonder what grants they give towards AGW ?

rbateman

REPLY: The link I use for data here http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/extent/plot.csv
shows different numbers. Where are you getting this? – Anthony

The latest # on the csv output is
04,07,2010,14235625
wheras the graphic # at top is
04,07,2010,14220781
And I have seen the graphic # replace the csv number before, so I take the conservative value until the thing settles down.
Otherwise, all the values come from the csv file.

Cassandra King

R. Gates,
“Stop the rediculous hype…”
I remember you earlier promise “it looks like its going to be a heck of a melt season”.
As hype goes your reckless prediction of a minimum of 4.5 million sq k without any evidence to support it also smacks of hype does it not?
The required ice loss over the next six months would have to be incredibly steep if your prediction were to come true would it not?
We all have preconceptions and prejudices, what we must do is try to temper them with logic derived from evidence.
I will be tracking the melt season or lack of it and I will remind you later in the year of your assertions.

pat

I was less dumb than this moron at that age. LOL

MartinGAtkins

rbateman (21:25:10) :
Lastest JAXA AMSR-E extent:
04,07,2003,14101719 – 04,07,2010,14220781 – 119062

I think not.

rbateman

R. Gates (22:02:17) :
Hype? Oh no, I just like to observe trends getting the heave-ho, as they eventually all do. Eventually, R. Gates, the whole thing will resemble an orchestra piece and come back to the key note.

pat

Bob, sure. All of a sudden the “gold standard” is 25% density rather than 15%. That is called “norming”, an “adjustment” , or “homogenization”.

George Turner

Bikermailman
It would be a horrible SG-1 movie because most really good SG-1 episodes involve an immediate and catastrophic threat to either the Earth or some other habitable planet.
In contrast, AGW at its worst threatens to raise Kentucky’s temperature to that of Tennessee over a century. I can’t even tell the difference in the two climates, much less complain about it!
The SGC would put the threat of AGW at the absolute bottom of their priority list, right below, well, every other threat they’ve ever encountered, and then down below even the lamest potential threat ever proposed by an Area-51 researcher punching time until his retirement kicks in.
At the devastating rates suggested by the worst IPCC scenarious, you could still hack two legs off a turtle and be confident that it could crawl fast enough to stay ahead of the changes. The truly scary thing is that allegedly sentient human adults are frightened to death by it, whereas the two-legged turtle with a brain the size of a pea will cope just fine.

MartinGAtkins

rbateman (21:25:10) :
Ooops! I misunderstood your last post.
Jaxa often change the estimate depending on the time of day. They may also alter it after a day or so.
Here in Thailand on the 8th April it’s 04,07,2010,14235625

Claude Harvey

“When this kid is injured or killed will his parents and the idiots who fed him this line of rubbish be prosecuted? They certainly should be.”:
Are you serious? Nobody gets maimed or killed on a tourist jaunt (except in the Middle East). Unless he was dropped ON the North Pole the kid will never get near the place. Neither will the Caitlin expedition. Are they still floating backwards?