There’s so much climate news going on I’ve been derelict in keeping this feature up.
This QOTW is from our friend and WUWT contributor Willis Eschenbach who writes:
I just got my 29 January 2010 copy of Science Magazine, which contains an interview with Rajendra K. Pachauri, the future ex-Chairman of the IPCC. In it, he gives the following astounding answer:
Q: Has all that has happened this winter dented the credibility of IPCC?R.K.P.: I don’t think the credibility of the IPCC can be dented. If the IPCC wasn’t there, why would anyone be worried about climate change?
Why indeed? …
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To Junican
It is a very sad state of affairs where the people who dispense Nobel Prizes are the same people who garner Nobel Prizes. In my opinion, Nobel Prizes are now corrupt and meaningless. It is a sad reflection upon the world of science that the heritage of the great physicists, biologists, etc of the past has been demeaned.
Well, I don’t agree with the sentiment that the Al Gore and IPCC Nobel prizes have solely been responsible for precipitating the corruption of the value of this ‘presigious prize’…the committee itself started that process of making them meaningless long ago. However, having said that, there is nothing that I would like to see more than a movement started that applies unstoppable pressure on the committee to revoke these particular prizes.
To Junican
It is a very sad state of affairs where the people who dispense Nobel Prizes are the same people who garner Nobel Prizes. In my opinion, Nobel Prizes are now corrupt and meaningless. It is a sad reflection upon the world of science that the heritage of the great physicists, biologists, etc of the past has been demeaned.
Well, I don’t agree with the sentiment that the Al Gore and IPCC Nobel prizes have solely been responsible for precipitating the corruption of the value of this ‘presigious prize’…the committee itself started that process of making them meaningless long ago. However, having said that, there is nothing that I would like to see more than a movement started that applies unstoppable pressure on the committee to revoke these particular prizes.
A Pachauri interview chock full of quotes. To paraphrase Allstate: We’re in good hands with the IPCC.
Dec 08, 09: Climategate – “IPCC chairman talks to CNN”
CNN: You do, though, admit Pachauri, that we can only rely on what is likely. There is no definitive evidence, is there, for global warming?
Pachauri: By the time we get definitive evidence, I think it will be much to late.
Thank you Mr. Pachauri, for finally coming clean as to the true nature and purpose of the IPCC – that of creating worry and alarm, regardless of the actual science behind it.
Since indeed, that is its one and only purpose, and it has certainly done its job well, then its credibility can’t be dented by anything happening in the real world, or indeed, in science.
Good to see you are finally coming around.
IPCC – The ultimate self-licking icecream cone!
“the committee itself started that process of making them meaningless long ago. However, having said that, there is nothing that I would like to see more than a movement started that applies unstoppable pressure on the committee to revoke these particular prizes”
I have an easy solution. Why doesn’t the committee go back to handing out the Nobel Peace Prize only to people who made a contribution to establishing or promoting peace or to negotiating a settlement that ends a war. Wouldn’t that be a remarkable set of criteria for handing out a peace prize. Where did the idea come from that the Peace prize should be an award bestowed to the most fanatical adherent of the left-wing intellectual fad of the moment? Check out these recent Peace Prize winners and tell me what they have to do with advancing the cause of Peace in a sometimes violent world:
Muhammad Yunus – “for advancing economic and social opportunities for the poor, especially women, through their pioneering microcredit work”
IPCC, Al Gore – “for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change
Although it might be admirable, what does microcredit have to do with peace? Sure, you can make some convluted, stupid argument to tie the two together but that’s exactly the point where the devaluing of the prize begins.
And since when does “disseminat[ing] knowledge” about an ecological situation and “promoting measures…to counteract [it]” become the equivalent of bringing a war to an end?
Really, do the words Peace Prize have any meaning left?
Really, do the words Peace Prize have any meaning left?
Kcom… I agree with your thoughts completely and in a word, the answer to your question is a resounding NO. One only has to look at the awarding of a prize to Barack Obama after 11 days in office to confirm that what the committee is really all about is to apply their own particular version of politics and political persuasion. it’s a total joke but that doesn’t mean that it still wouldn’t be wonderful to see them compelled to revoke the Gore and IPCC prizes.
Willis:
If you ever decide to pull together a selection of your science journalism and publish it as a book, I’ll be among the first to place an order.
You couldn’t make it up!
Well, not the way the IPCC does – they’re leading experts at it.
As they say in Mumbai:
Chootya Pachauri – Hindustan ka shaitan
I live in Canberra the capital of Australia. A few years ago we had a large number of homes destroyed due to a large fire. I was in the Brindabella range for over a week before it swept into the city. The management of our emergency services were deficient in that we were ill prepared for such an event. The conditions changed and the fire took 20 minutes to get to the city. This totally amazed the emergency services. In the subsequent enquiry the person who bore a major responsibility said “We really had no idea this could happen”. Oblivious to fact he had just put his foot firmly into his mouth. He was an incompetent appointed to a job he could not do. What I always wanted to know was who put him there? So maybe Pachauri could come and run our emergency services seems he has the right qualifications he has no idea either.
not easy being green these days…
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FergalR (19:21:54) wrote: “[Bob] Watson has held discussions with Al Gore, the former US Vice-President, about creating a new climate research group”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7026932.ece
Al Gore , Mr Extreme Exaggerator and It’s Ok To Lie To Get People Motivated himself, is the very last person that should be involved in such an endeavor.
How about
“I don’t think the credibility of the IPCC can be dented …
… any further than it already is”
Slightly O/T but you have to adjust for a peculiar Indian way of looking at the world. I have long cherished an interview in India Today (a sort of Indian version of Time magazine) with a retiring Indian chief justice. The interview is the Interview of the Fortnight in the edition published on July 31, 1985:
Q. Do you think terrorism and the increasing threat to public servants dealing with terrorists have put additional pressure on the judiciary particularly in a state such as the Punjab?
A. No, I don’t think a judge trying terrorists should have a particular apprehension to his life. We have session judges who try cases of murder every day. Let me tell you it is a remarkable feature of Indian life that note even once – barring the very odd exception – has a judge been physically harmed.
Whoops, that should be: “Let me tell you it is a remarkable feature of Indian life that not even once – barring the very odd exception – has a judge been physically harmed.”
I don’t think the credibility of the IPCC can be dented. If the IPCC wasn’t there, why would anyone be worried about climate change?
And why turn over valuable mindshare to H1N1, terror, and encroaching asteroids??
Oliver K. Manuel (19:01:15) : “You made fools of the Norwegian Nobel Prize Committee, too.”
With all due respect Doctor Manuel, the Nobel Prize Committee doesn’t need any help making fools of themselves.
I think Pachauri and the IPCC thought the “fix was in” and that they would never come under this much scrutiny.
Some years ago a B-747 was on final approach at Bombay airport. Suddenly, a light aircraft appeared ahead, in the cone of danger. The Brit pilot got gear up and power on and went around. While doing so, he spoke to tower in no uncertain terms. When he finished, a plaintive Indian voice came back “Oh dear. Not another day like Tuesday?”
That’s a problem here. The script just goes on and on, long after the final IPCC scene which was in 2007. Or before.
Willis Eschenbach (22:54:43) :
“You can tell when Gavin is lying because his lips are moving. Of all of the players in this game, I consider him the most dishonest. He will say anything that he thinks will support his previous lies …”
I read that part then moved up to see who wrote it.
I was glad to see it was someone of Willis’ caliber because that has been my judgement for a long time.
Having read much of GS on RC and experienced his methods of censoring and doctoring exchanges , IMO, he is without ethics, period. Made worse by his loyal thugs who post there.
The IPCC is a bunch of pseudo-academic liars working for their own remuneration and for the rip-off of the common people by governments around the world.
And this is BIG business!
Ask Al “The Bore” Gore, the model for an energy-saving US-Citizen…
What, me worry?
I would say that the man is an idiot if he wasn’t getting so darn rich! In that light, he appears to be a genius and the rest of the world is guilty of idiocy!
I stink, therefore I am.