Forecasts call for another 20 inches of snow in Washington DC with snow spreading to NYC this time.
Feb. 8 (Bloomberg) — Storm systems barreling across the country may bring as much as 20 inches (50 centimeters) of new snow to Washington and Baltimore starting late tomorrow, while New York may receive a foot, forecasters said.
With the Washington-Baltimore area still digging out from a weekend storm that left record snowfalls in some areas, the latest blast of winter “is going to be accompanied by heavy winds, which will make it feel worse, and across the Northeast that wind is going to last through the weekend,” said Tom Kines, a meteorologist with AccuWeather Inc.
A winter storm watch was posted today by the National Weather Service for New York, Long Island, southern Connecticut, Rhode Island and southern Massachusetts. A winter storm warning was posted for Washington starting at noon tomorrow, and 10 to 20 more inches may fall, the agency said.
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Tom – I live in Georgia. No discernable evidence of drought or global warming here. It would be nice, in fact, to see the sun two days together.
I went on about 5 or 6 swimming outings over the summer. It was only warm enough to swim probably two of those times. And this in a place which is usually unbearably hot in the summer.
But hey, it’s just weather.
You guys need to get a Jeep Commander with 4-wheel drive, a low-4 tow package, studs, and chains if ya need em. My Jeep is so bulky and big, I was stopped once for not having drag chains.
Traded my nearly new Toyota Corolla in for that big ol’baby after the Toyota hit a deep patch of snow on Tollgate and ground to a stop, with headlights buried in the snow on the road.
And it’s an 8-banger.
Hope everyone stays safe and heeds Caleb’s advice. If I’m forced to travel in snow I also take a shovel, large hot flask of sweet coffee and some high calorie snacks.
Were due another dollop of the white stuff here in Britain tomorrow and Thursday, and I’m planning on staying indoors by a nice big log fire. Wishing everyone well and stay warm.
Our local newspaper had an article about water equivalent snow being just 81% of average (ever heard of a standard deviation?). Less than 5 days after the weekly came out, water equivalent basin snow now stands at 87%.
@ur momisugly Tucci (02:10:40) : The lightest dusting and there are cars with Virginia and DC license tags in the roadside ditches, and if one has the time to put up with the astonishing clumsiness of the ones who can (barely) keep their own vehicles on the asphalt, it’s quite entertaining.
Several years ago, I was in South Carolina when they got hit with a whopping half an inch of snow. A state trooper pulled me over and told me I had to get off the roads. I was incredulous and asked, “What for?” And he said, “It’s not safe to be out here right now, ma’am.” I just laughed and said, “You’ve got to be kidding!” He told me if I kept arguing with him he’d give me a ticket.
As bad as that is, the worst drivers in any kind of weather are from Ohio. 🙂
@ur momisugly Ric Werme (05:30:30) : For a while, especially when I’d often drive to Plymouth NH late at night, I kept a warm sleeping bag in my car. There are just too many stories about people sliding off the road in a snow storm and being found days later.
In the winter, I always, always keep extra blankets, sweatshirts, gloves, a 24-pack of bottled water, granola bars, protein bars, an extra cell phone charger, a shovel, kitty litter, and a broom in my trunk.
@ur momisugly Tucci (02:10:40) : I particularly enjoy watching Mordor-on-the-Potomac catch pastings such as these we’ve experienced. Drivers in that area (and to the immediate south thereof) experience snow so rarely that most of them lack the skill to handle it. Those of us bred and taught in northern climes learn early how to deal with icy roads.
When we were learning to drive as kids, my dad would take us to an empty parking lot at a public pool. (And I learned to drive in a 1972 Dodge Polara, that didn’t exactly stop on a dime.) He made us get up to about 60 mph, then hit the brakes. You learned very quickly what NOT to do…panicking is the worst thing you can do, followed by slamming on the brakes. You SQUEEZE the brakes–you don’t hit them so hard your wheels lock.
Pamela Gray,
“You guys need to get a Jeep Commander with 4-wheel drive, a low-4 tow package, studs, and chains if ya need em. ”
Sounds great, but here in the UK, such 4 by 4’s have to pay punitive taxes to be allowed on the road. Ironically, during the snowy spell last month, the only vehicles able to make it up the hills around my way were the despised 4 by 4’s, while the eco friendlies were stuck on their drives.
Don’t you just love it when govinmints try to pick winners!
@ur momisugly Not Amused (03:20:39) :
Saw a ‘teaser blurb’ on some mindless news show about wind turbines in somewhere back east (Minnesota? Wisconsin? I donno…. wasn’t really listening closely…) that were frozen and not turning. The hydraulic fluids and lube oils were setting up to jelly. The California manufacturer said that “had not been consulted about climate suitability” or some such…
(he googles)
http://climaterealists.com/index.php?id=5068
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Yeah, if they had known it was going to Minnesota. they would have put some peanut butter into the lube. At least that way you could have a peanut butter and jelly windmill while you froze in the dark.
Looks like it was Minnesota …
Good luck with your pending next dump of snow. Stay safe.
(I love it when this stuff happens in the USA [no offense], but it is so sad when people are injured and killed.)
There are a couple of references above to the snow-free Olympics in Vancouver.
Naturally, we can expect the eco-weenies to start with “The lack of lower elevation snow at the Olympics is caused by AGW!” All the while, the “ultra left BC tree huggers” forget the record snow cover they had last winter when the snow stayed for week vs. the usual few hours. They could not drive their Beemers out to get sushi. Aaaaw gee.
But as we all know … (here at WUWT anyway)
1) Weather is not climate, and more importantly …
2) This is a classic example of El Nino keeping the West Coast well above average. It is a statement about the power of the oceans which remains lost on many..or at least is lost in their brains when convenient to do so. ☺
Clive
The other tough thing about snow forecasting in southern New England is the snow/rain line. Ten miles and 250 feet of elevation can cut snow depths in half as warmer temps cause a change over to rain. Shoveling slush is the worst.
Ack. I don’t know how much more weight my roof can take. This one will maybe be concentrated more to the east & NE from western MD than the last one. I hope.
To know weather, why don’t you consider lunar phases like in the past it used to be?, it seems that Piers Corbyn does take them into account too.
Then, if you have had big snow storms beginning on the fifth of february, chances are you will have them back on the 7th. of march.
According to the National Weather Service, typical for DC is either 17 inches for a season or 15 (Dulles versus Wash National stations).
With the Xmas snow storm, that could mean a potential 60 inches so far this year.
That would be 60/15 = 4 x’s the norm.
Now what’s the statistical spread on this, and is this more than 3 standard deviations out?
Max
Actual snowfall, 120 seasons
12.5
6.5
37.1
41.7
31.0
25.4
24.8
9.3
16.2
11.0
54.4
35.6
9.1
13.1
8.2
20.2
41.0
25.7
28.3
18.3
36.0
20.0
39.8
21.8
8.7
28.6
14.5
17.4
18.8
36.4
3.3
11.9
4.8
42.5
15.2
21.4
18.5
17.4
2.3
11.1
7.5
18.1
2.5
5.0
23.8
30.7
31.4
31.8
20.2
5.4
13.6
25.3
17.9
13.6
16.7
4.6
7.3
21.6
20.0
23.4
15.8
3.4
10.2
10.2
8.3
18.0
6.6
11.3
14.2
40.4
4.9
24.3
40.3
15.0
21.4
33.6
17.1
28.4
37.1
21.4
9.1
14.0
11.7
16.8
0.1
16.7
12.8
2.2
11.1
22.7
37.7
20.1
4.5
22.5
27.6
8.6
10.3
15.4
31.1
25.0
5.7
15.3
8.1
6.6
11.7
13.2
10.1
46.0
6.7
0.1
11.6
15.4
7.4
3.2
40.4
12.4
12.5
13.6
9.5
4.9
Average: 17.9″, Standard Deviation: 11.5″
Thus 60″ would be 5 S.D.’s out, usually an indication of a “significant” change from the “average”.
The next item would be to see it happen, say, 4 to 10 years in a row.
For Baltimore, the all-time record for the snowiest winter is something like 62.5 inches. After this past weekend’s snow, Baltimore is at 60.4 inches for this winter. We are poised to receive much more tonight, not merely breaking the record, but obliterating it.
Washington National airport receives an average of 16.6 inches annually. In the December 19-20 snowfall, they got 16.4; nearly an entire year’s worth in a single fall. This past weekend, they received (if memory serves me right), 17.4 inches–more than a year’s worth in a single fall. Now we have the possibility of yet a third major snow.
Hey Mr. Gore, think people will buy your AGW alarmism after this?
Members of an independent new media would now be asking Obama and other politicians how the weather compares with Al Gore’s and the UN IPCC’s prediction of global warming.
With kind regards,
Oliver K. Manuel
“I’ll get the tar
You get the feathers
And will go see Al
If we can make it
Through this weather..”
(Unk)
Any bets on how long it will be before the AGW crowd agree that it is not getting hotter, and they start claiming the credit for saving the planet?
John Innes (08:20:27) :The crowd may realize that AGW is over but not the promoters because it is a business and the means of an ideology to achieve their goal: Global Government, which, in turn and again means business.
They are quite advanced in their agenda, just see in any direction and you’ll see it fulfilled. All production means in less hands every day: Do you remember the good all days when you could buy something as trivial as chocolates from different parts of the world with different trade names?, now all they keep its trade names, but the trademark on its envelopes it is only one and the same: N….é
This pattern is starting to look like the more classical Nor’easter than the last one did. On the national loop, notice the “explosion” starting to happen at about the border of the Carolinas.
http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/index_loop.php
This generally rakes up the coast. What determines the amount of snow and where it happens is determined by where exactly it is relative to the coast as it moves North. The “worst case” is a center of the storm just off shore that wanders slowly North with heavy precipitation on the “cold” side of the storm.
This one is interesting in that it is a double-barreled event with another storm farther to the North that could cause another “exposion” possibly off the coast of New Jersey. If that happens just as the one from farther South is arriving in the area, it is “Katie, bar the door” for New York and Long Island.
Oh, and on the West coast, notice how clearly you can see the circulation right now around a low pressure area centered about San Francisco bay. That will be next week’s storm in the East.
No snow, but here in San Antonio they’re forecasting a mix of winter precipitation starting early Weds.
Winter is usually over by the end of January – I can’t remember having this much cold weather in a very long time (mid 80s, perhaps?)
Of course, it’s a relief after our horrific, blistering, 50+ days over 100F summer last year. I’ll take whatever winter I can get after that!
(Julie, who certainly does NOT know how to drive in the snow!)
Can someone ask Robert Kennedy Jr. what happened?
…..Oh, I guess somebody did….
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzU3ZDBjY2I4ODUzMjhiYTlmOTBkNjBkMjZjNTQ0YTE=
FYI, that area to the west of the east coast is populated, not terra incognita, and we are -having- a snow storm. The city left me a nice 3.5 foot wall at the end of my driveway.