From the UK Express
PRINCE CHARLES ON CLIMATE CHANGE: GLOBAL WARMING SCEPTICS ARE ALL LIARS
Charles, who has campaigned on global warming for more than 20 years, said: “I have watched with growing dismay and alarm the glee with which the sceptics have leapt upon the recent news stories that question the science that climate change is man-made and suggesting it is nothing more than a myth.
 |
| Prince Charles: ‘I’m not willing to play Russian Roulette over climate change’ |
“Well, if it is but a myth, and the global scientific community is involved in some sort of conspiracy, why is it then that around the globe sea levels are more than six inches higher than they were 100 years ago?
“This isn’t an opinion – it is a fact.”
He added: “And, ladies and gentlemen please be in no doubt that the evidence of long-term and potentially irreversible changes to our world is utterly overwhelming.”
Charles spoke after arriving in Manchester by Royal Train pulled by a coal-fired steam locomotive, named the Tornado, which was rebuilt from a 1948 design.
Read the entire article at the UK Express
First let me say that I like trains. But Charles apparently has no clue about how such a pronouncement might be viewed by commoners when he’s apparently doing nothing to curb his own carbon footprint. Will Jim Hansen denounce him for riding on a coal powered “death train”?
Charles also seems to think that sea level is a static feature of our dynamic Earth. Here’s a few reminders about sea level change the prince probably hasn’t discussed in polite conversations. He might also benefit from a visit to Israel, where sea level has been variable for the last 2500 years.
Here’s the last 9000 years which appear almost flat in the graph above due to scale used:
In our current era, while sea level has in fact been rising, continuing the trend started thousands of years ago, it recently appears to have slowed a bit:
Clearly we live in the golden age of relative stability, but Earth is very seldom that way. The rise of man just happened to get lucky…thanks to a warming world.
But who to believe, a coal powered prince or your own lying eyes?
Discover more from Watts Up With That?
Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.
Knows quite a lot – understands very little… Educated way beyond the limits of his intelligence! Trained to lead but apparently born to follow…
Probably the best advert for a republic since George III…
Glenn Rowe (22:25:08) :
“…The only argument I’ve heard here in Britain for retaining the royals is that they generate more tourist income than they cost the UK taxpayer, but I don’t believe that.”
You are correct to question this oft-repeated “fact”. A few years ago it was calculated that France benefits more from what you might call “Royal” tourism than Britain, and the French executed their last king in 1793.
As for this unfortunate outburst from Charles, it is all part of a co-ordinated fightback by the global warming people to get their agenda moving again after the Copenhagen train wreck and the UAE debacle.
Well, it’s not too surprising that Prince Charles wants to terminate the Enlightenment.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article7013764.ece
Enlightenment is defined by the advocacy of *reason* as the primary source of legitimacy for authority, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment
while Prince Charles wants to have an authority given it’s himself which is not quite compatible. 😉
I agree with the poster who said lay off the ad hom attacks on Charles. Many display ignorance of the facts. First of all, Charles does not get ANY public money. The Prince’s Trust does huge amounts of work that benefits our society. Blaming a man for his parentage is wrong. Attack his silly, misguided attempts to do the right thing re: AGW, by all means. But he is not profiting from this, and the comments slagging him off do us no credit.
For those on t’other side of the pond who may only know Hugh Laurie from House, here he is given a rather remarkably accurate portrayal of British Royalty, enjoy:
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gul8_GLzD4&hl=en_GB&fs=1&]
Cheers
Mark
(Try again with a normal link, not sure if embedding works…)
For those on t’other side of the pond who may only know Hugh Laurie from House, here he is given a rather remarkably accurate portrayal of British Royalty, enjoy:
Cheers
Mark
He’s a ‘monstrous carbuncle on the face of the planet’, or something, to prat-quote him…
The trouble with thinking you are right is that it stops you from checking to see if you are wrong.
Mike borgelt (21:57:22) :
Fellow Aussies, if we are to remain a monarchy couldn’t we ask the Danes to let us have Fred and Maz as King and Queen of Australia
As a Dane I can assure you that our Crownprince Frederik isnt much smarter than Charles!
I often wonder why a civilized place like Australia hasnt been made a republic long time ago.
May I suggest that we refrain from personalising the discussion on global warming, at least where The Prince Charles is concerned, and stick to the scientific argument to support our case, That way we will be taken more seriously in our endeavous to prove the climate change lobby wrong. Prince Charles is, after all, putting forward a personal view point which we can all challenge. It is the ‘scientists’ and their promoters who are found out that need our ridicule for their disgraceful manipulation of the facts to enhance their own reputations and financial gain.
The main difference between the Queen and Prince Charles is that she finds it wise, or considers it her duty, not to express her views on policy issues in public. It is difficult to kinow what she thinks (if anything) about global warming and most other such matters. Charles has “progressed” from expressing strong views on relatively harmless subjects such as London architecture and organic food to his recent extreme warmist views. If the global warming alarmism fades away quietly and nobody remembers it anymore by the time the Queen dies, then maybe nobody will care much if Charles becomes king. But it may also be that his present positions will come to haunt him. I think he’s being extraordinarily foolish. He knows very well that a king seen as unsuited to the throine by the public and the political establishment can force a king to abdicate, like his grand-uncle Edward VIII aka the Duke of Windsor. Either he’s decided that he doesn’t care much about being king in his old age anyway and would rather speak openly about what he believes in (which is silly since the only reason anyone pays any attention to him is because he’s expected to ascent the throne) or he does not even realize the possible consequences of his present actions – in which case he’s just hopelessly stupid.
What a royal inbred fart. One can only hope that his offspring got a good refreshing chunk of the better end of the genepool.
is there a “subliminal connection” here between “Pachy the Train Engineer that couldn’t” and “Chuck in his Choo-Choo?”
Acid observations on our Charlie Boy from one of the UK’s most erratic MSM journos (a lukewarmer):
http://www.spectator.co.uk/rodliddle/5753113/another-blow-for-the-climate-change-lobby-prince-charles.thtml
“Just what you need, the support of Prince Charles. It came on the same day that he said he didn’t agree with The Enlightenment. “
Care should be taken about wanting to remove the monarchy, the alternative
as head of state would then fall to a politician and we all know what they are like
Long live the Queen.
“I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: ‘O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous.’ And God granted it. ”
Voltaire
As if to illustrate my earlier point about the global warming propaganda fightback, this has appeared today in The Express:
NO ONE BELIEVES US, ADMIT GLOBAL WARMING SCIENTISTS
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/156355/No-one-believes-us-admit-global-warming-scientists
Britons are not convinced mankind has caused global warming
February 5, 2010
The British public are not convinced that mankind has caused global warming, three leading climate scientists admitted yesterday. In the wake of the scandal at the University of East Anglia, they conceded there were “uncertainties” about the science, but said the evidence was still overwhelming.
Last year, leaked emails from the university’s climate research unit appeared to show that scientists had changed statistics to strengthen their case. But yesterday Professors Julia Slingo, Brian Hoskins and Alan Thorpe spoke out after weeks of controversy concerning the accuracy of the evidence.
Professor Slingo, chief scientist at the Met Office, said: “We have a real issue about communicating science in a clear way which the public can understand and we haven’t done that very well.” She said the impact on temperature of the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide, or CO2, had been known about since the 19th century. The link was “straightforward fundamental physics”, she said, while other data – from rises in sea level to retreating glaciers – also showed the climate was changing.
Professor Thorpe, head of the Natural Environment Research Council, said that in the wake of the recent controversy there was a need for researchers to engage more openly with the public. He added: “We have to have discussions with everybody, with the public, whether they call themselves sceptics or not.” He said he would like to see sceptics using properly reviewed scientific studies to back their views rather than “hearsay and assumptions. It’s not a matter of belief, it’s about the evidence,” Prof Thorpe said.
Prof Hoskins, of the Grantham Institute of Climate Change at Imperial College London and a member of the Government’s Committee on Climate Change, acknowledged there had been mistakes in the committee’s report, but said it did not undermine the case for global warming. “There’s an audience out there that says: ‘I hope this isn’t the case’ and is eager to hear it’s not,” he said. And he insisted: “This isn’t a question of belief. This is fact – and there’s emerging evidence it is increasing.”
***************************************************************************
Who are these global warming people?
Professor Slingo is currently Professor of Meteorology at the University of Reading and Director of Climate Research, at the National Centre for Atmospheric Science. Julia was a founding director of the Walker Institute, and has previously been a member of the NERC Atmospheric Science and Technology Board and a contributor to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/
Members of the media can email: pressoffice@metoffice.gov.uk or call +44 (0)1392 886 655*.
The team can be contacted via the main press office phone number or by their own email addresses. All members of the team can talk on weather and climate issues, but they also lead on particular subjects.
* We will only respond to emails from journalists.
* We will not respond to abusive contacts.
——————————————————————-
Professor Alan Thorpe
http://www.nerc.ac.uk/
Feeback Form http://www.nerc.ac.uk/site/feedback/form.aspx
Natural Environment Research Council, Polaris House, North Star Avenue, Swindon, SN2 1EU, UK
Tel: 01793 411500
note: considerable efforts have been made to avoid the use of email by the public in this taxpayer-funded institute.
Alan Thorpe graduated from the University of Warwick with a physics degree in 1973 and from Imperial College with a doctorate in atmospheric physics in 1976. He was a postdoctoral researcher at Imperial College for five years and after a short interval at the Met Office took up a lectureship in the Department of Meteorology at the University of Reading in 1982. He became a professor of meteorology in 1991 and head of department in 1996.
His research involves the basic dynamics and predictability of weather and climate. From 1999 to 2001, Alan was Director of the Met Office’s Hadley Centre for climate prediction and research. In 2001 he became the first director of the newly-established NERC Centres for Atmospheric Science, which is a distributed NERC Collaborative Centre involving over 15 universities. He became Chief Executive of NERC in April 2005.
He has been Vice-President of the Royal Meteorological Society and was awarded their L F Richardson Prize (1979) and Buchan Prize (1992) for his research. He was a founding co-chair of the World Meteorological Organisation’s research programme “THORPEX: A World Weather Research Programme”. He is an assessor on the Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs’s (Defra) Science Advisory Council and a member of a number of national and international science committees. Professor Thorpe is visiting professor at the University of Reading.
——————————————————————-
Prof Hoskins, of the Grantham Institute of Climate Change
http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/climatechange
Imperial College London, Grantham Institute for Climate Change, South Kensington Campus, London SW7 2AZ
Gosia Gayer: +44 (0)20 7594 9666
Philippa Rogers: +44 (0)20 7594 8628
contact form http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/climatechange/contactus
b.hoskins@imperial.ac.uk
Professor Sir Brian Hoskins is a Royal Society Research Professor and member of the new Committee on Climate Change. He shares his time between the Grantham Institute for Climate Change at Imperial College and Reading University, where he is Professor of Meteorology and was a head of department for six years. Sir Brian is recognised as one of the world’s leading weather and climate scientists.
Sir Brian gained a first in Mathematics and a PhD in Mathematics from the University of Cambridge in 1966 and 1970 respectively. After completing his PhD he became a Post Doctoral Fellow at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in the USA, and then a visiting scientist at the University of Princeton before moving to the University of Reading in 1971.
Sir Brian’s international roles have included serving as vice-chair of the Joint Scientific Committee for the World Climate Research Programme and President of the International Association of Meteorology and Atmospheric Sciences. He has also had numerous UK roles, including playing a major part in the 2000 Report by The Royal Commission on Environmental Pollution that first proposed a 60% target for UK carbon dioxide emission reduction by 2050. He is a member of the science academies of the UK, USA, China and Europe and has received a number of awards including the top prizes of the UK and US Meteorological Societies. He was knighted in 2007 for his services to the environment.
Supervisor projects: Extreme Weather Patterns and Risk Management Implications http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/portal/page/portallive/6D7A3E0DCA194339E0440003BACD17D6
Does that prove the CO2 was responsible? Of course not. This sixties kid will never be king. His son, William, is at least popular and not a flake like his dad. Long live the Queen (or at least until Charles is too old to inherit).
The guy has spent too long Meeting Important People and has never learned to weigh evidence in any meaningful way. I’d vote for a republic any day. Meanwhile, the backing of Charlie Boy tends to work in the sceptics’ favour as everybody in the UK knows he is a fruitloop.
Don’t I remember him having his limo air-freighted around the world for state visits? And don’t forget he talks to plants, believes in homeopathy, abused his first wife, criticises modern architecture, and has somebody to squeeze the toothpaste on to his toothbrush for him.
There has always been a measure of loopiness in the Royal family which pops up occasionally – they are descended from poor mad King George.
oh, and he thinks nanotechnology is going to reduce the world to a “grey goo”. Google it if you want a reference.
Regarding sea level, here is the latest error in IPCC AR4:
http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg2/en/ch12s12-2-3.html
States “The Netherlands is an example of a country highly susceptible to both sea-level rise and river flooding because 55% of its territory is below sea level where 60% of its population lives and 65% of its Gross National Product (GNP) is produced.”
The real figure for Netherlands territory below sea level is 26%, so AR4 has it more than double. AR4 is looking like a joke a minute!
Proof you can be both a prince, and an idiot, by birth.
Ummmm …. The Train Thingy??
I was thinking about the horse he rode in on…..
I am dismayed that one who seems so obviously to have betrayed the trust of his first wife lectures us on honesty.
My view of life is if your wife can not trust you who can?
Don’t knock Prince Charles. He’s been well ahead of his time on a lot of things. And he’s not the only one completely taken in by the Global Warming bandwagon: Mr Obama and Mr Brown are only two out of many who are equally fervent about the revealed truth of global warming. Finally, Prince Charles is a fan of the Goon Show (a radio programme back in the 50s and 60s). And I hereby assert that no-one who liked the Goon Show can be all bad.