U.N. abandons Copenhagen deadline – countries not signing on – spokesman says the deadline has gone "soft"

The COP15 balloon appears to have lost all it’s air. Nobody’s signing up.

Excerpts from reports in the Guardian and the Financial Times

From the Guardian

Copenhagen deal falters as just 20 countries of 192 sign up to declare their global warming strategies

The UN has dropped the 31 January deadline by which time all countries were expected to officially state their emission reduction targets or list the actions they planned to take to counter climate change.

Yvo de Boer, UN climate change chief, today changed the original date set at last month’s fractious Copenhagen climate summit, saying that it was now a “soft” deadline, which countries could sign up to when they chose. “I do not expect everyone to meet the deadline. Countries are not being asked if they want to adhere… but to indicate if they want to be associated [with the Copenhagen accord].

The timetable to reach a global deal to tackle climate change lay in tatters on Wednesday after the UN waived the first deadline of the process laid out at last month’s fractious Copenhagen summit.

From the Financial Times:

UN abandons climate change deadline

Nations agreed then to declare their emissions reduction targets by the end of this month. Developed countries would state their intended cuts by 2020: developing countries would outline how they would curb emissions growth.

Countries pushing for a new legally binding treaty on climate change will be disappointed, as The waiving of the deadline sets a bad precedent for efforts to finalise a deal this year. The next scheduled meeting is not until late May, in Germany, with another in late November, in Mexico but many officials say more will be needed.

The result of Tuesday’s Massachusetts senatorial election, which took away Barack Obama’s super-majority in the Senate, is likely to push climate change further down the US agenda. It was the latest in a series of setbacks that have caused efforts to push a cap-and-trade bill through the Senate to grind to a halt, making it harder for the White House to participate meaningfully in global climate negotiations.

Instead, the administration has been pressing ahead with steps to limit the US’s carbon emissions through regulation. The Environmental Protection Agency has unveiled new draft rules that would sharply tighten regulations on smog-building pollutants, or ground-level ozone, and has cracked down on greenhouse gas emissions by ruling that carbon dioxide and five other gases pose a danger to health.

h/t’s to WUWT readers Thomas Chisolm and Bruce Foutch

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tokyoboy

No wonder.
COP 16 will also go amiss, I bet.

Dave F

In like a lion, out like a lamb.
I really think that the IPCC and the world has become so reflexive in the dismissal of opposing views that they really thought that the treaty they got was a victory. Trumped by observations again.
I will point it out, but not gloat.

Douglas Field

U.N . abandons deadline
‘Instead, the administration has been pressing ahead with steps to limit the US’s carbon emissions through regulation. The Environmental Protection Agency has unveiled new draft rules that would sharply tighten regulations on smog-building pollutants, or ground-level ozone, and has cracked down on greenhouse gas emissions by ruling that carbon dioxide and five other gases pose a danger to health.’
Just when the UN finds a good ‘excuse’ to back away from this obviously poisoned challis, the US administration makes an ass of itself by declaring CO2 a danger to health.
What planet are these people from? It’s Gilbertian.

JDN

“Countries are not being asked if they want to adhere… but to indicate if they want to be associated [with the Copenhagen accord]”
… or just sign up to get on the mailing list

Christian Bultmann

Another tipping point came and went and nothing happened.
Fortunately the UN’s politics are as good as there science.

Thanks for the story.
This report confirms that even politicians can learn.
Perhaps the true AGW believers will eventually learn too.
Keep the spotlight on the Climategate iceberg. Much more will be revealed!
With deep gratitude,
Oliver K. Manuel

tokyoboy

I guess this results, at least partially, from the Climatagete scandal, the Pachauri fiasco, and the IPCC botch.

rbateman

“The Environmental Protection Agency has unveiled new draft rules that would sharply tighten regulations on smog-building pollutants, or ground-level ozone, and has cracked down on greenhouse gas emissions by ruling that carbon dioxide and five other gases pose a danger to health.”
The signup is deflated, the threat was imaginary, and the EPA has cracked up.
Nobody can afford the IPCC’s price tag for the Emperor’s new clothes, signed up or not.
The wheels came off.

Leon Brozyna

Those that can, do…
Those that can’t, become bureaucrats and tell people what to do, when to do it, how to do it, and if it is permitted to do it…
And in the surreal world the UN inhabits, its little hamster critters will keep on furiously racing in their little wheel, going nowhere and with nothing to show for all their frantic motions, except for promises to have another meeting.
After the Mexico meeting, hold the next meeting in Moscow … in January 2011.

David

WHAT??? THATS ridiculous.. I mean Obama spoke and everything.. I mean.. cmon. You must have your numbers wrong or something. Thats absurd. Massachusetts would sooner support a republ… ummm…ohh wait…
— nevermind

Doug

I’m willing to bet this push by the EPA to classify CO2 as a “pollutant” will further damage the Democrats in the eyes of independent voters. How the administration back tracks and extricates itself from this wrong turn will be fascinating to watch.

The Copenhagen Accord contained little substance but it did have an agreement that all nations would state the steps they would take to curb carbon emissions to help save the world from the purported threat of anthropogenic global warming.

TFN Johnson

rE YOUR FIRST PARAGRAPH.
Please consult any grammar textbook. “It’s” means “It is” and DOES NOT INDICATE POSSESSION BY “IT”.

Nobody wants to invest in a Ponsi scheme, once the formal charges are being drawn up, and prime movers are being sacked or investigated. DUH!
The undeveloped countries walked out, back at the COP15 meeting when they found out they would not be receiving shares of the loot.
With the amount of corruption, and lost profits from the crimes incurred in the EU Carbon trading scheme, why would anyone want to sign on now?

Daniel H

A major cultural hurdle that alarmists have yet to grasp (or even acknowledge) is that when Americans hear things like “Dr. Pachauri”, “Evil DeBoar”, and “COP-15”, they tend to conjure up images of Dr. Evil, mini-me, and RoboCop engaged in a vicious doomsday plot to destroy the Earth. Until the clueless bureaucrats in the UNFCCC learn how to identify and address this serious PR deficiency, their much vaunted “agreements” will continue to be DOA.

mkurbo

Cap & Tax (Trade) is DOA. The EPA has now received three (3) lawsuits over the Co2 “endangerment” finding and there will undoubtedly be more hurdles on that front.
More important, the Scott Brown victory in Massachusetts is just the tip of a much larger iceberg. The tide is turning towards fiscal responsibility by government (because there is no more money) not just in the US, but in many other countries around the world.
Bottom line – the current worldwide economic downturn has and will claim many causalities. One of those causalities will be reflected in history as the AGW movement. When the money is tight (or non-existent), priorities changes and people are less sympathetic to higher energy prices, higher taxes and more regulations for the sake of some UN driven vision of eco justice (or wealth redistribution).
Hey AGW proponents – It’s not going to happen, there is no money to underwrite your boondoggle any further. Pack it in and go find a green job…

gtrip

Imagine that. Let’s schedule a new and improved Climate Summit…..yeah, that’s the ticket.

Interesting to note that the report states that India, Russia, Norway, France and Mexico have signed on…. and not very surprisingly, Australia, as well…. looks like Lord Monckton has his work cut out for him on his Down Under Tour.

jorgekafkazar

Hide the deadline.

Matthew Zobel

“Robert E. Phelan (22:59:32) :
Interesting to note that the report states that India, Russia, Norway, France and Mexico have signed on…. and not very surprisingly, Australia, as well…. looks like Lord Monckton has his work cut out for him on his Down Under Tour.”
The political situation is still somewhat iffy for cap’n’trade here is Australia. It’s also an election year so who knows what will happen.

Jeef

I’m in NZ. My stupid Prime Minister turned up to COP15 with an ETS law signed. One of very few. We’re also one of very few to sign the “Copenhagen Accord”.
Sadly, despite my more than rudimentary search skills, five minutes has given me me no list of the signatories to the Copenhagen Accord. Anyone got any idea who (else) signed on the dotted line to confirm their abject stupidity? Link or list would be great.

Michael

NYT getting a little huffy about the COP15 failure. No carbon(CO2) tax or sunspots for you NYT.
“I don’t think that any political development in the United States means turning back nine years of political development on the climate change agenda,” de Boer said. “The change of one state from one party to another is not going to cause a landslide in the politics of the United States on the question of climate change.”
U.S. Bound by Obama’s Copenhagen Emissions Pledge — U.N. Official
http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/01/20/20greenwire-us-bound-by-obamas-copenhagen-emissions-pledge-17687.html

Why Cap & Trade will fail, and why the USA will hand nothing to other countrys for “climate debt”:
Well, heard on the news that we have $12.3 TRILLION national debt in the USA and they want to raise the debt limit by another $1.9 TRILLION because when they raised by IIRC $1.4? TRILLION a few months ago they thought it would get them through a whole year … but it didn’t.
Now the USA population is about 300 Million so we can take 12,000,000 / 300 = $40,000 per person or about $160,000 per family of 4 (2 adults, 2 children – really worse than that for the typical family since we have more than replacement rate kids…)
So our Dim Dems want to add about $20,000+ per family per year to the national debt.
I don’t know about you, but I don’t have a spare $20k / year to hand over in ADDED taxes. So anybody who buys those bonds is going to be given a great big NOTHING when they come due. (And the idea that I’m going to find a spare $160,000 before I die is laughable in the extreme…)
So go ahead, EPA and California State, and go ahead Dim Congress. Whip out that credit card and go nuts. The faster this whole thing augers into the ground and the USA has to join California in filing bancruptcy, the sooner we can start over with a new crop of congress critters.
Oh, and it would kind of bring to a halt handing out $Billions to various nutty causes and worse countries around the world.
Note to China: Please loan us lots of money that we will NEVER pay back. We need it to, um, because, er, well, we just need it… “For the Children”…
(And yes, I know that right now the US $ is rising, it is only a short term thing. A nice trade, but not a long term bright idea.)
Sidebar: The state and local governments have their own $Billions of debt on the credit card. California has a DEFICIT of about $20 B (the actual estimate wander from $20 to $40 and I’ve heard $60B once including some unfunded obligations). So take that $160,000 and add to it about the same for “other government debt” AND about another $200,000 for unfunded social programs and unfunded obligations (i.e. Social Security that has no money but is obligated to a big ramp up in payments). You actually end up about $ 1/2 Million per family. Don’t know about you, but for my family that number is just insane.
So the odds of those debts ever being repaid is roughly zero.
As soon as the global debt markets realize that, well, lets just say that the result will not be pretty.
Strangly, I don’t really care at this point if they want to load on a few dozen more $Trillion for nutty energy and health programs. Once you’ve decided not to pay the credit card bill and to just default on it; well, who cares what gets charged on it before it gets shut…
So even if we hand countries buckets of pretty pieces of paper, they will get nothing of value out of it. We will pay our promisses with more, new, and prettier promisses 😉

Baa Humbug

Oliver K. Manuel (22:09:51) :
I spent the whole night reading John P Castello’s finely detailed account of the climategate emails. Fascinating, reads like a thriller novel. Would be a good tool in the hands of a barrister.
Maybe the “hockey teams’s” future cellmates will appreciate discussions of temperature anomalies and ice core data.

Long after AGW and Climate Justice have passed, there will be old, entrenched taxes as a legacy of the carbon bubble. These taxes will have names to make you forget their origin, but they won’t go away.
Who would approve a “Tax on Giving Someone a Job”? Yet call it Payroll Tax and we accept it comfortably…whereas it’s as acceptable as doggie-do in your morning cornflakes.

Michael

“Senior General Motors executive Bob Lutz has slammed scientists and environmentalists, saying global warming has little
to do with humans and more to do with solar flares and sunspots.”
Global warming? Don’t Blame the Car
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/global-warming-dont-blame-the-car-20100121-mmry.html

Roger Carr

Time to dip into the WUWT? quote box:
“The Alarmist fantasy world is a function of society’s massive accumulation of wealth.”
An Opportunity for Europe in 2009 — JP (04:59:03)

Michael

“What does Scott Brown bring to the table in regards to using the global warming hoax as an excuse to tax the hell out of us, or to allow the UN to exert any power over U.S. citizens?
On December 17 of last year, while campaigning for the Massachusetts Senate seat, the Boston Globe published his answer to the question, “Do you think that whole global warming thing is a big fraud?’’
“It’s interesting. I think the globe is always heating and cooling,’’ he said. “It’s a natural way of ebb and flow. The thing that concerns me lately is some of the information I’ve heard about potential tampering with some of the information.’’
Brown continued, saying: “I just want to make sure if in fact . . . the earth is heating up, that we have accurate information, and it’s unbiased by scientists with no agenda. Once that’s done, then I think we can really move forward with a good plan.’’
Al Gore, Michael Mann, et al, meet Scott Brown.”
Al Gore, Meet Senator Scott Brown
http://www.climategate.com/al-gore-meet-senator-scott-brown

Andrew P

Jeef (23:19:53) :
I’m in NZ. My stupid Prime Minister turned up to COP15 with an ETS law signed. One of very few. We’re also one of very few to sign the “Copenhagen Accord”.
Sadly, despite my more than rudimentary search skills, five minutes has given me me no list of the signatories to the Copenhagen Accord. Anyone got any idea who (else) signed on the dotted line to confirm their abject stupidity? Link or list would be great.

Scotland – though not a sovereign nation state so represented at COP15 by the UK government – passed a Climate Change Bill a few months before the farce in Copernhagen. I think we are now legally committed to something like a 42% redcution in emissions by 2020, or some other similarly ridiculous target. The government’s so called environmental protection agencies SNH and SEPA more hell bent than ever on approving every wind farm and ridiculous hydro-scheme they can (e.g. a 1MW scheme in the Birks of Aberfeldy which will ruin the Falls of Moness). During the recent cold spell the typical output from all the 3GW capacity of wind farms in Scotland was only about 150MW. The government is refusing to replace either of our aging nuclear stations. So we will need to keep burning coal if we want to keep the lights on, although with carbon sequestration technology we will have to burn an extra 40% just to make up for the inefficiency of the process. Our politicians are at best gullible idiots, and aside from Jim Sillars (who stood down from party politics a long time ago) we have no sceptics of any note.

Jimbo

mkurbo (22:51:40) :
“Hey AGW proponents – It’s not going to happen, there is no money to underwrite your boondoggle any further. Pack it in and go find a green job…”
As pointed out in an article (can’t recall where) I read last week that the “political climate is changing.” faster than climate change. – Australia, USA etc. The UNIPCC were trying to pull a fast one on us and the AGW bubble is unravelling week by week. It doesn’t get better than this.

oxonmoron

Can someone from the US answer this question? Who funds the EPA? I mean if the EPA seriously goes against the wishes of congress, could congress terminate EPA’s funding? Interesting though.

DirkH

Where are the green puppets, screaming “This is the last chance for humanity to avoid its fate! The planet’s a-gonna toast (and roast)!”? Marching up and down the street? Too cold? Come on kids it’s your last chance! You’ve got to take this serious because we don’t.

Andrew P

Sorry, I should have said “Scotland – though no longer a sovereign nation state…”. We blew that as well – just look at how well Norway has done.

Old Goat

So how much did the Copenhagen shambles cost everyone? Not to mention the blatant hypocrisy displayed by all those who used the very resources, and produced the very “carbon footprints” that they would have us surrender. Criminals, all of them.

Interesting the spin that the BBC put on your headline, where you stated;
“Copenhagen deal falters as just 20 countries of 192 sign up to declare their global warming strategies”
The BBC reported along the lines of;
“there is still great interest in doing a deal to combat climate change as over 20 countries have signed up to take action to reduce co2.”
Put in the context of 192 countries that number is tiny. Intriguing use of words in order to put over their settled viewpoint.
Tonyb

artwest

Finally, the faintest glimmer of real reporting at The Guardian when it comes to global warming.
“…the Guardian has discovered the [IPCC Indian glacier] claim was questioned by the Japanese government before publication, and by other scientists.”
It’s not much but, assuming that the journalist concerned hasn’t already been frogmarched out of the back door and shot, it could be a start.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/20/himalayan-glaciers-melt-claims-false-ipcc

Andrew P

I am not sure how we in Scotland compare per capita, but the debt situation in the USA is truly staggering – http://www.usdebtclock.org/ – if I was a US citizen I would be very worried indeed, as you will soon be struggling to pay back the interest, let alone the capital. And this debt disaster stems from the Bush era, though Obama doesn’t appear to concerned about it either. Note that http://www.usdebtclock.org/ is processor intensive – so don’t leave it on if you like to run your laptop cool.

E.M. Smith –
You are going to repay through repatriation of your 401K’s into annuities, you are going to repay through taxes that 98% of Americans will never have to pay, like when you die, your house might be worth $800,000 unencumbered.
The “death duties” will be, ummm…. {press keys on calculator}…. here we go, $800,000!
The Socialist ability to invent and hone new and intricate taxes will simply astound you to despair.
Count on it. Although, the folks of Massachusetts (sp?) deserve hearty congratulations on their new Senator-elect.

Daniel H

@Jeef
The list of parties associated with the Copenhagen Accord does not appear to be publicly available. There is an article in today’s New York Times that at least attempts to quantify the number of countries that have sent letters of intent (the procedure for associating with the accord involves a government representative sending a letter of intent to the UNFCCC Secretariat). From the NYT article:
“Fewer than two dozen countries have even submitted letters saying they agree to the terms of the three-page accord. And there has been virtually no progress on spelling out the terms of nearly $30 billion in short-term financial assistance promised to those countries expected to be hardest hit by climate change. Still unresolved are such basic questions as who will donate how much, where the money will go and who will oversee the spending.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/21/science/earth/21climate.html
Translation: Of the 110 countries that crafted the Copenhagen Accord, less than 24 have actually agreed to be associated with it.
I suspect that the majority of signatory nations are despotic banana republics that the UNFCCC would (understandably) rather keep out of the public eye. That’s why DeBoer has extended the deadline and will likely keep the list private until enough western nations have signed up to give the accord some semblance of legitimacy.
@oxonmoron
The United States Congress funds the EPA. The Congress has the power to amend the Clean Air Act to specifically exclude CO2 (and other GHG’s) from the EPA’s regulatory domain. If such an amendment were to pass then the EPA would be powerless to regulate CO2 emissions. There are currently two bills before Congress that propose to amend the Clean Air Act to exclude CO2 and other GHG’s from the EPA’s regulatory purview:
H.R. 391: “To amend the Clean Air Act to provide that greenhouse gases are not subject to the Act, and for other purposes” by Rep. Marsha Blackburn [R-TN] http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-391
H.R. 4396: “Save Our Energy Jobs Act” introduced by Rep. Earl Pomeroy [D-ND] http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-4396
If you support these bills then write to your Representative and demand that he/she votes to pass them (unless your Representative is Pelosi, in which case I offer you my sincere and deepest condolences).

Jason F

Andrew P, also we have in Scotland our first minister, who whent to hoplesshagen with no ability to sign any treaty but did find a chum in the Maldives where he is planning to go on holiday, sorry a fact finding mission on global warming.
Sup’ yer gravy Alex Salmond, sup it right up!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/scotland/7038222/Alex-Salmond-accused-of-grandstanding-in-the-Maldives.html

Bridget H-S

I was reading the links about this story and saw this one on the Guardian website – do read the entire article, it is too funny. That pink footed goose is a really bad bird and should probably be added to that list about extinct species (except that it would be made compulsorily extinct). Doesn’t it realise the damage it is doing? Sometimes Nature is so irresponsible.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/20/pink-footed-goose-co2-villain
The pink-footed goose: the bird with a carbon footprint four times larger than a patio heater.
Unlike cows and sheep, the geese do not fart and burp out their sizable contribution to ­global warming. Rather, they free the carbon from the ground when they grub around in the Arctic soil for food.

Christopher Hanley

“……Interesting to note that the report states that India, Russia, Norway, France and Mexico have signed on…. and not very surprisingly, Australia, as well…..” Robert E. Phelan (22:59:32)
Not very surprising indeed.
Hollow man Rudd has a lively interest in empty gestures.

AlanG

OT, but comes under the heading of ‘amateur scientist beats professionals at their own game’. Here are some really beautiful astronomical pictures taken by an amateur with an 8 inch telescope from his garden shed. Worth a look: http://www.astropix.co.uk/

Patrick Davis

The Copenhagen failure (Although KRudd states that the “world” is commited to no more than a 2c rise in temperatures, I guess he must feel he can turn water into wine) has been noted here in Australian MSM however, the various players in Govn’t are set to ram through the Extra Tax Scheme regardless.
Mr Rudd, you are firmin my prediction that you will be a one term PM.

Alan the Brit

Andrew P (00:01:17) :
A point of information:-)The UK & all others in the EU were not Sovereign states at the time of the Copenhagen booze-up fest, we were all by the time (1st December 2009) mere provincial states in the new nation called Europe.
This does show some glimmer of hope. I agree about the EPA, can’t someone clip its wings & embarrass it? Surely you guys could demand that to show an example, that members of the EPA all go through a de-Carbon Dioxide process & see how long they live without it!
Had a really good laugh last night, Channel 4 screened “Sunshine” even with a foreword by Danny Boyle. Unbelievable! Not the film, but that people actually thought the script was credible in the first instance. As to the Film, Crappy plot, crappy acting (directing? the actors themselves aren’t entirely responsible), crappy special effects, didn’t see the end as I fell asleep thro’ boredom!
On the good news front, favourite No 1 son brought back 10 x 60W eq CFLs for £1.00 on offer at Sainsbury’s, so I now have a cupboard full of the useless *%$£”!$£ things – 2 failed at the weekend after lasting well under their quoted life-span!

Patrick Davis

“Robert Townshend (23:45:33) :
Who would approve a “Tax on Giving Someone a Job”? Yet call it Payroll Tax and we accept it comfortably…whereas it’s as acceptable as doggie-do in your morning cornflakes.”
Are you Australian? We have a payroll tax here, plus a tax on cheque books and, if I recall correctly, there was a AU$0.06c tax on every AU$100 paid into a bank accounts (I admit, this was in 1998, and in Victoria, so I think with GST that all changed).

Trefor Jones

Yvo de Boer seemed to be in a state of self delusion yesterday on BBC Radio4’s prestigious PM programme. He stated incredulously that after much thought the Copenhagen Accord was actually a firm basis for progress rather than the absolute disaster that he had first thought. This article shows why, he can see the large pay cheques coming in for at least the next year as the catastrophic warming delusion continues.

Andrew30

The National Post
Temperature data skewed: researchers
Richard Foot, Canwest News Service
Published: Thursday, January 21, 2010
Call it the mystery of the missing thermometers
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=2465893
They lie and they know that they lie.

inversesquare

Leon Brozyna (22:22:49) :
Those that can, do…
Those that can’t, become bureaucrats and tell people what to do, when to do it, how to do it, and if it is permitted to do it…
And in the surreal world the UN inhabits, its little hamster critters will keep on furiously racing in their little wheel, going nowhere and with nothing to show for all their frantic motions, except for promises to have another meeting.
Dude…..those two paragraphs are pure GOLD!!
Have a look at this one for a chuckle!!
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/ambassador_stages_coup_at_un

Les Francis

Some of those democratic countries that have allegedly signed the accord might find that a change of government might ” unsign it” with the excuse that the signing was never ratified by a referendum of their people.