According to a June 23 New York Times report, “Former NOAA Employees Revive Climate Site Shut by Trump Administration,” a small group of former NOAA employees has recreated much of the former Climate.gov website under a new domain, Climate.us, after the original site was effectively retired during the Trump administration. The project reportedly involved former NOAA staff, approximately $280,000 in crowdsourced funding, and the painstaking recataloging of more than a thousand reports, datasets, articles, and educational resources.
The Times presents the effort as a heroic restoration of a valuable public resource. Perhaps. But there is another way to look at it.
The fact that a handful of former government employees devoted substantial time and money to rebuilding a climate communications website demonstrates something many observers have long understood: the climate movement is not disappearing simply because the political environment has shifted. Far from it.
If anything, this episode illustrates the determination of climate advocacy networks to preserve and perpetuate their institutional infrastructure regardless of who occupies the White House.
What Exactly Was Lost?
One detail in the Times story deserves particular attention: NOAA communications director Kim Doster stated that research products previously housed under Climate.gov would remain available through NOAA.gov and affiliated websites.
That raises an obvious question: if the underlying data, research products, and reports continue to exist elsewhere within NOAA’s web ecosystem, then what exactly was being “saved”?
The answer appears to be less about preserving raw scientific information and more about preserving a particular presentation and advocacy interpretation of that information.
Climate.gov was never merely a repository of temperature records, satellite measurements, or hurricane statistics. It functioned as a communications portal designed to translate climate science for public consumption. As the Times itself notes, supporters valued it because it was aimed at teachers, journalists, and the general public rather than exclusively at researchers. In other words, it was a climate marketing tool.
That distinction matters. Scientific data and scientific advocacy/messaging are not the same thing. The existence of a website devoted to interpreting climate information through a particular institutional lens does not automatically make that interpretation indispensable.
The Problem of Relevance
There is another issue that deserves consideration. Much of the material being restored was created under assumptions, projections, and narratives that may or may not remain relevant to current conditions.
Climate science evolves. Datasets change, methodologies are revised, models are updated or canceled, and forecasts are adjusted. Simply recreating an archived website does not guarantee that every article, educational resource, or explanatory document remains useful or accurate in light of current observations.
Indeed, one of the recurring problems in climate communication has been the tendency to preserve alarming projections long after real-world observations have complicated the original narrative.
That is why skepticism remains important. The question should never be whether information can be preserved. The question should be whether that information remains relevant, accurate, and consistent with observed reality.
Archiving material is easy. Critically evaluating it is harder.
Climate Advocacy Never Takes a Vacation
The broader lesson from this story is political rather than scientific. Many commentators have suggested that recent political changes represent some sort of permanent turning point in the climate debate. The reduction of federal climate programs, the restructuring of agencies, and the reassessment of various climate policies have led some observers to conclude that the era of climate alarmism is winding down.
That would be a mistake. History shows us that movements built over decades do not disappear overnight. The recent rise of irrational socialism is a perfect example.
The Climate.us project demonstrates that there remains a substantial network of activists, former officials, advocacy organizations, academics, and donors committed to maintaining the climate narrative regardless of changes in government priorities.
When one institutional pathway closes, another opens, when one website disappears, another appears, when one source of funding dries up, new funding sources emerge.
This is not unusual. It is how political and ideological movements operate. The climate movement is no exception.
A Preview of What Comes Next
The political winds are always changing, anyone who believes today’s policy environment will remain unchanged indefinitely has not been paying attention to history.
- Administrations change.
- Congressional majorities change.
- Agency leadership changes.
- Public priorities change.
When those changes occur, climate advocacy organizations will be positioned to move aggressively. The infrastructure is being maintained now precisely because its supporters expect future opportunities.
That is perhaps the most important takeaway from this story. The people rebuilding Climate.gov’s advocacy platform are acting on the assumption that climate politics remains a long-term project.
They are probably correct. Clearly, in their minds, the debate is not ending. It is merely entering another phase.
Why WUWT Matters
For that reason, websites such as Watts Up With That remain as important as ever.
The role of WUWT has never been to suppress information. It has been to examine claims, challenge assumptions, scrutinize data, and ask questions that many institutional climate organizations would prefer not be asked.
That mission becomes even more important when climate communications efforts become increasingly centralized and insulated from criticism.
- Independent scrutiny is essential.
- Scientific claims deserve examination.
- Model projections deserve comparison against observations.
- Policy proposals deserve cost-benefit analysis.
- Public communications deserve fact-checking.
Those responsibilities do not disappear when political circumstances appear favorable to climate skeptics.
If anything, this is precisely the moment when skeptical analysis must remain vigilant.
The recreation of Climate.gov under a different name serves as a reminder that climate advocacy infrastructure is resilient and persistent. Supporters of climate alarmism are investing significant effort to preserve the narratives, educational materials, and communication channels they regard as essential.
Those who favor open debate, transparency, and rigorous examination of climate claims should be equally committed to preserving institutions that provide critical analysis and alternative viewpoints.
Because one thing is certain: the climate debate is not going away, it is just waiting for the political winds to shift.
Political fortunes rise and fall. Administrations come and go. Government priorities shift, but the underlying contest over how climate science is interpreted, communicated, and used to justify policy will continue.
And when the political pendulum inevitably swings again, the push for expansive climate and energy policies will likely return with renewed vigor. That is exactly why independent skeptical voices must remain active, engaged, and prepared for the long haul.
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“The role of WUWT has never been to suppress information.”
Nobody at WUWT has ever attempted to suppress information.
Criticism is not suppresion.
Demanding that subsidies be eliminated is not suppression either.
Aren’t you suppressing freeloaders and scammers though, through the Holy Grail of rationality?
At least they are wasting their own money this time.
For now. Don’t doubt for a second that if the Dums regain control, all of the subsidy money will start flowing again.
Given the performance of our President (tariffs, Iranian War, numerous ill-advised EOs), it will be amazing if the Democrats can’t take both the House and the Senate.
I doubt it.
There’s plenty of advocacy groups and hostile countries who will be more than happy to pay them handsomely for their service.
“their own money” now, they plan to change that to YOUR money in the future.
There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always— do not forget this, Winston— always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless.
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever.
George Orwell.
New York City just elected three Democrat communists to go with Mayor Mamdani.
You get what you vote for New York.
Mamdani promised free bus fares if elected. Does NewYork have free busses today?
Those other communists made lots of promises, too. Let’s see how that works out. You know free child care for all requires a lot of money. Where will they get this money?
If you vote in a bunch of delusional losers you should not expect good things to happen.
You made your bed, now you have to sleep in it.
They weren’t elected – it was the primary. You’ll have to wait until November to declare them voted in.
‘You’ll have to wait until November to declare them voted in.’
Most of these primary races were for ‘safe’ Democrat seats, so November’s election outcomes are pretty much in the bag. For example, can you honestly think of anything AOC could possibly say or do that would keep the voters in her Congressional district from sending her back to DC?
“The answer appears to be less about preserving raw scientific information and more about preserving a particular presentation and advocacy interpretation of that information.”
100% what Anthony said here ^^^^^^.
“That is exactly why independent skeptical voices must remain active, engaged, and prepared for the long haul.”
And here ^^^^^^.
Thank you for listening.
They can recreate the website but that doesn’t change the fact that there is no evidence of a connection between CO2 and Earth’s weather and climate.
We just need one website: WUWT.
OT: Good Lord! I just saw on tv an Iranian young woman walking down a street in Iran with her head and face uncovered, accompanied by two other girls, and she was wearing an outfit that was plainly a rendition of an American flag!
I love the gesture, but I fear for her life! I’m worried about them. That is just the thing to get you killed by the religious fanatics in Iran.
She’s probably already raped and dead.
It’s being reported that the Mullahs are continuing with their executions of Iranian civilians.
Trump should tell the Mullahs to stop the executions or the bombing resumes.
It is also being reported that many Iranian women are discarding their hijabs in public. But the girl with the American flag dress is really asking for trouble.
There is no nut like a religious nut – and that includes the climate grifters. They want life and death power over all others.
CAGW is definitely a religion.
It was probably fake.
Their thirst for POWER, CONTROL AND MONEY is unquenchable.
I counter the NOAA employees’ posturing with this NASA video “Rising CO2 Levels Greening Earth“: https://youtu.be/zOwHT8yS1XI, with apparent help of NOAA computer climate models. All any lay person needs know about climate is found in this one stalwart NASA expert video. CO2 is “greening the earth”. Joe Q. Public need not know any more than that; and to rest in the comfort of rising CO2 levels, and of course faster, record breaking Olympic times.
BTW – the smokestacks in the video are releasing the Big Dog Greenhouse Gas: Water Vapor. CO2 is invisible, odorless, colorless, ergo, we cannot know if there is CO2 in the smokestack output. But the image always makes hay for the lying media.
I once heard someone say that the cloud of steam coming from a nuke plant’s cooling tower could be a ton of water. He was probably right but a ton of water is only about 240 gallons.
PS He wasn’t advocating anything. Just stating a fact. (He was a safety inspector for a variety of types of large plants.)
Anthony:
Yes, the true believers are not recanting. They are hibernating, just waiting to get back in power in Washington. In the US come this November they are likely to reanimate their climate Frankenstein.
Keep reminding us climate crisis skeptics not to get complacent.
“Because one thing is certain: the climate debate is not going away, it is just waiting for the political winds to shift.”
No kidding. The climate debate was never about the environment; it was purely about communism and forcing north-south financial transfers. Maurice Strong was explicit about this in the Rio 1992 Earth Summit conference. This was and is a religious struggle against state control of everything. Simply because of a change in administration, the cultists have not magically gone away.
It should be obvious by now that discredited religions never just “go away”. National socialism was thought to be exterminated in World War 2. And yet, antisemitism has reared its ugly head in a host of academic institutions. Every future generation is going to have to fight this hydra.
Our schools are to blame for this.
Half the kids can’t read, but they can and do absorb Leftwing propaganda.
Tom, I agree with you but you have to go to the root of the problem. Illiterate students are at least as much the victims here.
“Everything which is wrong with everything is the fault of the schoolteachers.”
Or at the least the superiors who control what, whom and how they teach in the public education system. If they can’t read, it’s the fault of the education system indoctrinating them. You demolish a conspiracy by destroying the ringleaders, not mere footsoldiers.
That’s because unless they’re being home schooled, they get no options.
Anthony,
Yours is an excellent and timely article.
The many-headed Hydra of old myths is alive and active with climate change.
There has to be one critical climate change rebuttal factor that is so clear and inarguable that it has to be accepted. To date, the complexity of atmospheric radiation physics has thrown a cover over simple rebuttals. Physics like those are not the best forum to convince people of how poor ‘climate science’ really is.
Readers here might like to write in about their best simple argument against climate change. Let us see if we can identify and concentrate on one. (My top example is the failure of about all doom forecasts by their forecast dates). Geoff S
Geoff:
My vote is to show Dr. Christy’s spaghetti graph [in color!] contrasting the CIMP6 models’ average to the RSS/UAH/Radiosonde average, noting the divergence of those two linear lines over time.
People are always surprised at the worsening discrepancy, then I would ask them “Do you think those two lines will ever meet in the future?”
[Of course, that is the reason all of their doom forecasts have failed. GIGO]
I took a look at Climate.us
Climate.us is an operating project of Multiplier, a tax-exempt nonprofit 501(c)3 umbrella organization
Federal Tax ID: 91-2166435 | 2261 Market St, STE 86505, San Francisco, CA 94114
Multiplier is a 501(c)(3) non-profit with about $60 million in assets. Their form 990 shows they found a menagerie of climate and eco-initiatives, and including multi-100-thousand $ grants to Duke, U Oklahoma, Johns Hopkins, NYU, Princeton, and U Maryland.
So, Climate.us is getting a good chunk or perhaps all of their operating money from Multiplier.
Let no one say, though, that alarm-mongering scientists(sic) don’t believe their hype. They do. To a gender. They’re so poorly trained that they’re unable to recognize an artful pseudoscience.
This’ll likely never happen but, we need a flat rate income tax (say, 7%?) with no exceptions and no exemptions. A person, a charity, a non-profit, a church, even the government pays the same rate. (The government’s would go to paying down the national debt.)
Couple that with a national sales tax (say, or 1 or 2%) with the same conditions. (Food, gas, Teslas, Lamborghinis, etc.)
That would be fair.
I should have added, “no deductions”. No more tax right offs.
It is exactly because government is so fickle that it should not be in charge of things as important as energy production, transmission or transportation or any other business. It has shown beyond a doubt that it should not be in the education business. What a mess.
When you look at their “About Us” page, there’s not a single scientist among them, just “communicators” and graphic designers.
If the Federal Govt re-introduced the Scientific Method to schooling PLUS “How to Question Sceience Findings” (ie a skeptical, enquiring viewpoint)that might help.
Even a simple “how do you know that?” in response to claims would be radical!
Reminds me of my sophomore Theology class. I went to a very Jesuit HS. My teacher was a layman. (He only lasted one year.)
What he did in the class is ask us questions about what we believed something and why we believed it. An answer along the lines of “My (Mom, Dad, Priest, Nun, even The Pope) said so.” was not acceptable. He wanted us to think for ourselves.
OOPS!
“very Jesuit HS” should be “very good Jesuit HS”.
This is an excellent essay, Anthony. It is at its foundation, a lesson about human behavior applicable to many things beyond climate advocacy.
Seems like we had this story a couple months ago. I had gone onto the site at that time, and commented that making a site like that wouldn’t take much money. So they’re duping everyone who donated to “the cause”.
re: “The fact that a handful of former government employees devoted substantial time and money to rebuilding a climate communications website demonstrates -”
– pathological behavior.
Tell me that’s not true.
Definition -Pathological behavior refers to long-lasting patterns of thoughts, emotions, and actions that are maladaptive and often harmful to oneself or others. This behavior can disrupt interpersonal relationships and may be associated with severe mental health conditions.