Climategate: Michael Mann's very unhappy New Year

Connor (00:15:03) :
Again for photon,
You should read the article more closely
Scafetta said the code in question had been submitted to a scientific journal and that if “the journal takes its time to publish it, it is not our fault”. Benestad says the code he is asking for relates to papers already published.
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Code and papers related to code are not the same thing.

You are making claims that aren’t clear. What is you are trying to say? Come out and say it clearly. But It looks like you’re trying to create some kind of conspiracy.
Also, if Scafetta is hiding something it’s just as wrong him to do it as any other scientist.

‘Climate Modeller in Decline’
‘Climate Modeller seeks job, Airbrushing a Speciality’
Seriously though folks
The darker side is not our job, the media will do it anyway.
The move with the BBC’s full scale review though has me intrigued…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=y&authornamef=Paul+Revoir

Sorry – I should have said 25mins 30 for the actual question.

Photon:
Massively scalar elementary response to each WUWT post will not hasten discovery of the Boson. A slightly less impulsive response might succeed though… peace.

DJ Meredith (19:25:28) :
Hate to burst the bubble, really, I do…but Penn, or most any other university would never actually DO anything to jeopardize their image, much less funds. Sure, they’ll put on a good show, but their best fog machines will be covering up the shredders runnin’ 24/7.
I know, I’m watching it happen right here at good ole UNR. Whistleblowers are treated to the full wrath of the administration.
http://www.rgj.com/article/20091212/NEWS/912120346/Judge-partially-grants-petition-in-UNR-corruption-suit
From your link:
The plaintiffs’ petition includes allegations of fraud, embezzlement, bid rigging, falsification of evidence and public documents, perjury, abuse of power, forgery, witness intimidation, civil rights violations and animal abuse
May I be so impertinent to question exactly what the animal abuse applies to? Could this allegation also apply to Mann?

I just posted a link to here on this article:
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/paper-trail/2009/11/30/penn-state-will-investigate-climategate.html
Sure would like to see Algore in his propaganda flick again, miss the scene of him on the lift pointing upward on the Hockey Stick graph.

@ur momisugly Bernice (16:06:53) : The whistleblower program is a way out for those that recognize wrong doing. Financial motivation is secondary. The climategate whistleblower is just the tip of an iceberg that’s getting bigger .
And I wonder just who that whistleblower is.
Would Mann’s grad student(s) be willing to turn him in? Their careers are pretty much shot before they’ve even started; what do they have to lose? $15 million would keep them going for quite a while, I imagine.

so its been established that whoever released the emails is a whistleblower? Source anyone?

re: John Hooper (04:19:44) :
“Ironic to see Wolfgang Knorr bashed in here considering he recently released a report that found any warming over the last 150 years could not be due to a rise in atmospheric CO2.”
http://bristol.ac.uk/news/2009/6649.html
It doesn’t say anything of the kind, not in this story and not in the actual study. Don’t jump to wild conclusions.
“New data show that the balance between the airborne and the absorbed fraction of carbon dioxide has stayed approximately constant since 1850, despite emissions of carbon dioxide having risen from about 2 billion tons a year in 1850 to 35 billion tons a year now.”
How does that match up with your your statement?

I totally agree, Smokey.
Smokey (05:12:32) :
Corrupt scientists, working hand in glove with corrupt and devious outside organizations, have learned to game the system at the expense of the taxpaying public. If there is a way to make them accountable for their scam, I’d like to know how.
If you look at what’s going on as a Parasitic-Communistic “Business Plan”, that helps to see it. The solution will involve a battle, first using all the proxies for War available, starting with rational analyses and obviously including Words and Statements wherever. They work.
I’d like to believe that b.poli (02:31:30) has the answer [Internatikonal Court of Justice], but I know better. There is no way the same evil people that infest the UN and the EU have disregarded the ICJ. Like the young priest in The Exorcist telling the old priest about all the different Satanic voices and personalities, the old priest responded: “There is only one.”
Again, I totally agree. Fantasies of a World Court or Government are just that, if only because they allow an easy access for Totalitarian Controllists, just as the U.N. system has. There must always be a niche for an effective counterforce to Totalitarianism. The rest of us really don’t care to even try for Totalititarian control, but Parasitic-Communists types do – call them anything you want, but their natures are basically the same and they do exist as a hominid form.
That’s why previous American Administrations have eschewed the ICJ. Why should defenders of freedom and free individuals turn their fate over to The World when The World is obviously not anything like what America represents and has done – America’s mistakes and failures being acknowledged but notwithstanding in net and in comparison, if only as per Winston Churchill’s wry comment about such a system being the worst imaginable, until you compare it to everything else.
Note, I’m using “America” as symbolic for any one or Country who agrees with what a free America represents, not to say that no one else shares these values or hasn’t counted or doesn’t still count in an equally important way.
The answer is not to diss “America” but instead to join it in the form of independent actors – Countries and people – who know what America’s Constitution with its Bill of Rights represents, because it is what they are, free individuals with inherent rational powers who see it, know it, and recognize a subrational groupist threat when they see it.
It helps me a lot to view what is going on now on a very large scale, as an Evolutionary struggle involving two different Hominid Forms, just has occurred in the past as Humans have evolved: currently it’s the more Parasitic and thereby less potentially successful who also react with classic bigotry to individual free thought – which they can’t really understand but sense in a basically bigoted way as some kind of threat, versus the more Independent individuals possessed of a creative free thought capacity which understands what it is, understands but has no interest in Totalitarian Thought Controllists – who view thought control as both a means and an end – instead sees all progress as a result of an individual free thought capacity necessarily dependent on the presence of institutionalized individual rights, and does not want to have to engage in War to survive. But will!
Only by making the American type system, including real Science, work the way it was designed to, in regard to this large scale attempt by Totalitarians to take over as much as possible of the World by way of the U.N.’s ipcc “Climate Science”, will Totalitarianism be pushed back without either it holding sway to the detriment of freedom, or a large scale War eventuate.
The American system itself as designed and expressed by the Framers of the Constitution is currently under the same threat internally represented by the U.N. with its “Climate Science” to whomever in the World, a threat again which itself is really “only” a massive thought control propaganda operation by Totalitarians in order to achieve more thought control, from which every other form of control follows.
But, still amazingly, the signs are strong and getting stronger each day that the current Totalitarian Parasites here in the U.S., represented by the Obama Adm., are going to lose without the necessity of a real War. They are actually doing a pretty good job of self-destructing – by virtue of apparently being able to only act according to their Marxian “Marxisant” [effete] Political Science Fantasy World, which specifically denies Reality to the point that it almost can’t possibly work – even to benefit itself. Again, it’s amazing to see the actions this Adm. takes at least daily, which make no sense even concerning its own survival.
Of course their machinations also threaten the rest of us here but in what is probably not itself a fatal way, even though it looks pretty bad so far.
However, this somewhat unique feature – which probably allows Totalitarians to lose here in the U.S. without us having to resort to violence – also is probably due to the relative persistence of America’s and Americans’ “rogue” nature when it comes to wanting to be free. Anyone similarly fired should join up.