While Dr. Mann has made statements in the press during the last week to the effect of “I welcome this investigation” I wonder if he’s seen some of the correspondence being sent to PSU regarding him. Here’ s one from Pennsylvania State Senator Jeff Piccola that has some very pointed language.
PDF of letter is here Sen-Piccola-Letter-on-PSU-Prof-Michael-Mann
And here is one of the letters to Senator Piccola that prompted his letter to PSU:
h/t to WUWT reader “Rod”
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Anthony: this belongs in a new thread. http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/146138
CLIMATE CHANGE IS NATURAL: 100 REASONS WHY
The Chairman has spoken.
Looks like he is giving the U time to get to the bottom of it before it becomes a matter for a Hearing.
Which climate researchers have taken oaths before giving testimony to legal bodies?
Wouldn’t lying under oath constitute perjury?
Isn’t that a Felony?
Wow. Now things are really getting interesting.
Talking of completely unbiased search for the truth, this is worth looking at:
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2009/12/vast-nexus-of-influence.html
Senator Piccola was quite restrained in his communication. Perhaps he should have suggested that President Spanier visit wattsupwiththat.com for a more complete picture of the types of “infractions” to which Mann might have been a party.
Otherwise, he is spot on by pointing out that the consequences of not being absolutely honest are far-reaching and potentially devastating.
No pressure, though.
While I’m all for investigating Mann and of the whole group, he’s the only one I would apply the f word too, they are investigating the wrong thing.
People know the first hockey stick was broken by McIntyre, however the 2008 and 2009 hockey sticks are far more disingenuous. They should be asking him to explain how throwing out data that doesn’t agree with his conclusions isn’t fraudulent.
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2009/06/20/hockey-stick-cps-revisited-part-1/
Wow, the reals are really starting to come off the wagon, aren’t they? Investigations and other legal manouvers play the role that demons did in old gothic tales – once invoked, they cannot be uninvoked and they soon take on a power all their own. This entire game dependend on it staying hidden inside a black box – the machinations cannot withstand the disinfecting light of day.
And today Russia and China are holding up the Copenhagen conference with outrageous demands. (China wants a guarantee of no outside inspectors, and Russia wants carbon credits for every dying old soviet factory that was shut down in the 90’s) But if you truly believe in Thermageddon, how can you refuse to give Russia and China everything they ask for since without them you have nothing? Neither of those countries care whether there is a final deal or not, so they can hold out and refuse any deal unless they are bought off at an exorbitant price. Why shouldn’t they?
Thinking that Russia and China were going to “play nice” at this conference just may turn out to have been the biggest and most foolish conceit of all.
@Invariant – It’s a garbage article with simple statements with various levels of truthiness. Not all of which have anything to say about wheather our current changes in climate is natural or not. Not the type of thing that I think would be worth highlighting on this site.
I’m not holding my breath. They will circle the wagons and hold fast unless funding is actually withheld. I’m not holding my breath over the chances of funding being held, either.
sigh, “wheels”
I like Senator Piccola’s subtleness, if you could call it that. LOL.
This is the type of action I was hoping to see when climategate broke. Hopefully he’ll keep pushing if the internal investigation is a whitewash.
I don’t know how my post got into the wrong thread. But it did and I wasn’t even near that thread about the House of Lords. Anyway, here it is in the proper thread, I hope:
My just sent letter to my Democratic Senator:
Dear Senator Merkley,
Well, well, well. I still have the text of the response letter I received from you a while ago regarding my concerns with climate change. Would you like me to send it back to you to refresh your memory?
My position stands as before. I am a registered Democrat. Liberal in my views of my fellow humans, conservative in my own way of life. I have voted the Democratic ticket almost exclusively during my entire adult life. But this climate change business has turned out to be a water shed event for me.
Tell me, what say you now about climate change? Still want to hang your career on it? Because in truth, if you do, your career will surely be hanged by it.
Sincerely,
Your Constituent
REPLY: You go girl! – Anthony
The AGW fraudsters are going to have a hell of a hard time sweeping this dirt under the carpet.
If only something like that would happen here in Norwich (Home of uea CRU ). Instead of police investigating the obfuscation and stated aims of frustrating the Freedom Of Information laws we have an investigation into how the emails escaped into the net!
Leaves little doubt about the seriousness and urgency of the concerns expressed.
Now, what about the states that have already placed thier economies under Cap & Trade laws based upon the critical findings of a compromised CRU?
CLIMATE CHANGE IS NATURAL: 100 REASONS WHY with commentary.
http://pathstoknowledge.net/2009/12/15/climate-change-is-natural-100-reasons-why
The Senator’s letter in quite serious in tone, and I don’t doubt an investigation would be full of powerful language as well, but politicians have a habit of talking the talk without walking the walk.
Still, a very interesting deveopment. 🙂
I’m glad that they are taking this very serious !!
This is good news. I seriously doubt that Penn State’s funding is in jeopardy–and it gets hundreds of millions in research dollars–but its alumni won’t give if they feel Mann is making a Penn State degree look bad.
Too bad Piccola isn’t in my neck of the woods. I’d vote for him. 🙂
My beloved college’s statement on Mann portends a whitewash of all facts and an exoneration just like in 2006. They don’t even address the files showing poor science (and worse) in their statement, just the emails that were “stolen”. Central Pennsylvanians and Nittany Lions are a conservative breed though, despite the leftist tilt of the University setting. Dr. Mann will not long endure what is to come for him in ridicule and derision. Another institution better be on his wish list.
“Please inform me of the Penn State’s internal Investigation” – are they likely to jeopardise themselves in any way? The internal investigation will be a whitewash.
This does leave Dr. Mann in a bit of a bind. His response to suggestions of malfeasance are usually along the lines of
– not peer reviewed
– denier
– fossil fuel funded
– not a climatologist
… and those are the milder ones. It’s probably not politically astute to throw those out at a state senator who can significantly influence PSU’s funding.
It would be interesting to see him try however.
I’m sure it’ll all get sorted out at the Penn State summit in Steubenville. If the potholes on the turnpike have gotten fixed so they can get there….
Fair and correct. Science is not to be adulterated by politicking and opportunism, it is far too important for that. I support a total rework and investigation of the status and validity of current so called consensus.