Leaking, again? These aren’t the CRUTape documents, but secret docs from “the Circle of Commitment” describing the way some manipulators wanted Copenhagen’s agreement to pan out. See it here
This quote (from the Guardian article) sums it up pretty well:
“It is being done in secret. Clearly the intention is to get [Barack] Obama and the leaders of other rich countries to muscle it through when they arrive next week. It effectively is the end of the UN process,” said one diplomat, who asked to remain nameless.
At least one person had scruples, or we wouldn’t be hearing about it now.
From news.com.au
Copenhagen conference in ‘disarray’
TALKS at the United Nations climate change conference in Copenhagen have broken down over leaked documents indicating that wealthier nations would be given more power in future climate change negotiations.
The documents seem to allow a handful of rich countries to have larger emissions and more control over future talks within a “circle of commitment” and have enraged delegates from developing countries.
The US, UK, and Denmark are among the countries included in the so-called “Danish text.”
The document also sets unequal limits on per capita carbon emissions for developed and developing countries in 2050; meaning that people in rich countries would be permitted to emit nearly twice as much under the proposals.
The secret draft agreement worked on by a group of individuals known as “the circle of commitment” – understood to include the UK, US and Denmark – has only been shown to a handful of countries since it was finalised this week, The Guardian reports.
The agreement, leaked to the paper, is a departure from the Kyoto protocol’s principle that rich nations, which have emitted the bulk of the CO2, should take on firm and binding commitments to reduce greenhouse gases, while poorer nations were not compelled to act.
The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank; would abandon the Kyoto protocol – the only legally binding treaty that the world has on emissions reductions; and would make any money to help poor countries adapt to climate change dependent on them taking a range of actions.
The document was described last night by one senior diplomat as “a very dangerous document for developing countries. It is a fundamental reworking of the UN balance of obligations. It is to be superimposed without discussion on the talks”, the paper reports.
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Trev (13:20:23) :
“the circle of commitment” —- sounds like something out of a Dennis Wheatley novel.
I’m impressed, a rather obscure, but apt cultural reference.
The majority of the responces on this article makes it seem like this ‘ Danish Text ‘ is another ‘ nail in the coffin ‘ in respect to the argument of the Anthropological Global Warming issue .
Before everyone begins to pop the corks on the champaign , you better stop and think , or better yet stop and research before you build your float for the ‘ Defeat of the Anthropological Global Warming ‘ parade .
I have downloaded a copy ( 15 pgs ) of this document and will read it later but the points explained in this article leaves alot of loose ends and ties alot of ends together as well .
Begin with a leaked Danish Text comes weeks after the , most likely leaked and Not hacked ‘ ClimateGate files from the CRU were obtained . It’s stated that this leaked document was leaked TO: the Guardian but do you know where or how it was leaked from ?
We have a ‘ Circle of Commitment ‘ mentioned in the document that supppsely had worked on this ‘ secret draft ‘ but understood it to include the United Kingdom, United States and Denmark ? Who understood it to include these countries ?
Why is this ‘ leaked ‘ document surfacing at a time when ‘ leaked ‘ data from the CRU is currently drawing all of the attention, and conclusions at COP15 ?
Why is it stated that only a handful of countries have been shown this document and then two paragraphs before states that ” developing countries reacted furiously to the leaked documents ” ? So how many countries have actually viewed this document ? and more importantly , it’s stated that this Danish Text was ” Finalized ” last week ? Is the document dated ?
I am a little curious about how this draft agreement , if authenic is sidelining the United Nation’s negotiating role ? The skeptics of Man Made Global Warming have already concluded in their minds and from the evidence within the leaked CRU data ( ClimateGate files ) that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in their efforts to ignore the incriminating contents in the ClimateGate files are not only ignoring it but are instead primarily focusing on the legailities of How the files were obtained . The Skeptics of Man Made Global Warming may be presuming that the IPCC, in their disterests to the contents of the fraudulent emails and data may be an accessory or even the Primary Suspect to the CRU Conspiracy .
As I understand , there are three main Global Temperture datasets :
* The University of East Anglia’s Hadley Climate Research Unit
* NOAA/GHCN, the Global Historical Climate Network
* NASA/GISS, the Goddard Institute for Space Studies
The Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) and the University of East Anglia’s Hadley Climate Research Unit (CRU) receives almost all of their raw data from the Global Historical Climate Network (GHCN) . The CRU reports to their directors , the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and the IPCC reports to their directors , The United Nations Environment Program (UNEP) .
It all ends up at the United Nation’s so therefore if ClinmateGate is able to survive a investigation into the Scandal and Conspiracy it is , then the United Nations must answer to the charges . This is all very interesting because now we have the Danish Texts victimizing the potential roots of the ClimateGate Conspiracy ?
Now rumor has it, thru the Danish Text that the UN Copenhagen Climate Talks may be asked to sign a agreement that hands more power to Rich countries and sidelines the UN’s role in all future climate change negotiations ? ? ?
Is this a Cop-Out or what ! ClimateGate is the Largest Scandal in any Science in the history of the world . Is it SO large that the United Nations , working for the Global Elite , is being scraped in fear of being Exposed and by being exposed , could lead the the preverbial tip of the iceberg ?
Remember , ” . . . It is a fundamental reworking of the UN balance of obligations. It is to be superimposed without discussion on the talks . . . ” and ” . . . It effectively is the end of the UN process . . . ”
Are they the Riches Countries in the World or the Riches People and Corporations in the World ? As stated in the Danish Text , the draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the WORLD BANK ! Money talks and when they want more at any costs , then it will be ” . . . without discussion on the talks . . .”
Simply Amazing ! ! !
Anthony, who exactly is in this “circle of commitment?”
AdderW (12:23:05) :
Hacked email climate scientists receive death threats
Not a very good move….
Death threats to climate scientists are nothing new.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1545134/Scientists-threatened-for-climate-denial.html
Graeme From Melbourne (13:55:19) :
Trev (13:20:23) :
“the circle of commitment” —- sounds like something out of a Dennis Wheatley novel.
I’m impressed, a rather obscure, but apt cultural reference.
‘The whicker man’ comes to mind…
Sean Peake (13:28:07) :
It was the Judean Popular People’s Front… the People’s Front of Judea don’t have a clue
Splitters!
Well, someone over at American Thinker called AGW the new form of Western Imperialism.
It is that on several levels, it establishes an aristocracy in all but name over the West, and constrains the developing world to permanent poverty.
The dream of the Marxists who moved into environmentalism after the collapse of communism, realized.
JerryM (13:26:04) : “Like other posters here, my jaw dropped. This is so weird. I’m tempted to call BS on this document.”
I was thinking the same thing. It certainly doesn’t sound like the drivel that’s been coming out of our Dear Leader’s mouth lately, and I don’t see how any Western leader could believe the Copenhagen conference would agree to it. Methinks somebody may be trying to embarrass the West into more concessions. It’s just so…so…politically incorrect.
As the guy with the hockey mask, The Humungus, said in Road Warrior …
I have two thoughts:
1) Hansen and his pronouncement on Cophenhagen – Perhaps he’s realised the damage that he’s done and will be done in his name. Maybe he’s got cold feet?
2) Global governance through regulation of CO2. It sounds great in theory, but the array of politicians and diplomats are quite incapable of producing a workable plan. While it’s politically correct for every Government in the World to beat their breasts about CO2, the cracks are beginning to show in the narrative and it fall apart in a few months. Grandiosity?
Hacked email climate scientists receive death threats
as an AGW skeptic, I, for one, call for a complete investigation and prosecution as appropriate.
Having said that, I am willing to bet that we will never hear about the results of investigation, either because (i) there were no such threats to start with or (ii) the threats came from the climate alarmists, either to drum up sympathy/deflect attention or as a “do-not-get-caught” warning.
Sean Peake (13:15:38) :
Robert: re Cone of Silence
What?
It’s a reference from the spy comedy TV series “Get Smart”. It was supposed to be a secure way of communicating but never really worked properly…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cone_of_Silence
It dates me, but I did enjoy the series.
Kath. I know. I was trying to be funny by repeating a line the Chief always said. Note I said trying—many have told me that I was trying… in every sense of the word (a line courtesy from “Just a MInute”)
I have it on good authority (a secret IPCC confirmed COP15 protocol) that “Circle of Commitment” is the new Robert Ludlum book about to become a blockbuster movie staring Matt Damon as the forgetful warmist who with his pet polar bear, Iceberg, saves the world from the evil “denialists”. Also starring Al Gore as the penguin without a home, John Travolta as Matt Damon’s private pilot, and Leonardo DiCaprio as himself–a totally confused actor.
Wow.
LOL
I think if Marvel comics tried to sell that story as a heroes-genre evil conspiracy to be defeated by Superman…it would have been rejected as not being believable. You cannot make this stuff up.
@Mariss
I love it.
Just to make this clear: this “Danish Text” preceeds the pre-COP meeting in Copenhagen (which was in mid-November), where China and India were invited to look at it. Therefore, it cannot logically be a “reaction” to climategate.
src: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/Its-rich-vs-poor-at-Copenhagen/articleshow/5316849.cms
The World Bank is not a nice institution. There is a laundry list of issues they have with actually fulfilling their ‘mission’ of helping developing countries. The leftist movement in South America exists because many of these complaints are valid yet go unaddressed. It would be a bad move to put them in charge of anything more than what they have, which I contend is too much in the first place.
Gary, Jerry, our ‘Dear Leader” certainly couldn’t come up with something like this, but his main ‘sponsor’ could. Look to the hedge funds.
RC Saumarez (14:48:59) :
Hansen contends, correctly, that cap and trade is ineffective. He is a proponent of a direct carbon tax.
Sorry, it wasn’t Climate Audit, but the Air Vent blog.
Please disregard what I wrote, wrong thread.
Inferring from the news, I have come to the conclusion that water is a very dangerous substance. There are several facts about water that have not been publicised
1. Lots of people drown in it.
2. It is a major factor in floods.
3. In vapour form it is responsible for nearly 85% of greenhouse effects.
4. In cold countries, it is the cause of damp conditions, leading to arthritis and other debilitating conditions.
5. Water bourn diseases kills millions in the third world.
Surely it is time for the EPA to designate water as a dangerous pollutant. We could also have a Maldives protocol to deal with a “tap and trade” policy.
Sean Peake (15:11:44) :
Kath. I know. I was trying to be funny by repeating a line the Chief always said. Note I said trying—many have told me that I was trying… in every sense of the word (a line courtesy from “Just a MInute”)
:-))
For those of us having a hard time seeing the document on the Guardian site it is also purportedly available on Scribd:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/23845345/DRAFT-271109-Decision-1-CP-15-Decision-1-CMP-5-in-Separate-Document-Adoption
The first four pages match.