Leaking, again? These aren’t the CRUTape documents, but secret docs from “the Circle of Commitment” describing the way some manipulators wanted Copenhagen’s agreement to pan out. See it here
This quote (from the Guardian article) sums it up pretty well:
“It is being done in secret. Clearly the intention is to get [Barack] Obama and the leaders of other rich countries to muscle it through when they arrive next week. It effectively is the end of the UN process,” said one diplomat, who asked to remain nameless.
At least one person had scruples, or we wouldn’t be hearing about it now.
From news.com.au
Copenhagen conference in ‘disarray’
TALKS at the United Nations climate change conference in Copenhagen have broken down over leaked documents indicating that wealthier nations would be given more power in future climate change negotiations.
The documents seem to allow a handful of rich countries to have larger emissions and more control over future talks within a “circle of commitment” and have enraged delegates from developing countries.
The US, UK, and Denmark are among the countries included in the so-called “Danish text.”
The document also sets unequal limits on per capita carbon emissions for developed and developing countries in 2050; meaning that people in rich countries would be permitted to emit nearly twice as much under the proposals.
The secret draft agreement worked on by a group of individuals known as “the circle of commitment” – understood to include the UK, US and Denmark – has only been shown to a handful of countries since it was finalised this week, The Guardian reports.
The agreement, leaked to the paper, is a departure from the Kyoto protocol’s principle that rich nations, which have emitted the bulk of the CO2, should take on firm and binding commitments to reduce greenhouse gases, while poorer nations were not compelled to act.
The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank; would abandon the Kyoto protocol – the only legally binding treaty that the world has on emissions reductions; and would make any money to help poor countries adapt to climate change dependent on them taking a range of actions.
The document was described last night by one senior diplomat as “a very dangerous document for developing countries. It is a fundamental reworking of the UN balance of obligations. It is to be superimposed without discussion on the talks”, the paper reports.
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“That’s either an enormously thick-skinned balloon, it’s sited atop an enormously high building or children aren’t allowed air-rifles in Denmark.”
That baloon full of hot air is in the middle of City Hall Square in Copenhagen, Don’t make our gunlaws any worse than they already are…
Soren
I hope this all descends into farce. The head farceurs will be laughed out of office.
I like the very last word in the document.
Etc
Says it ll really. This half baked nonsense deserves to be thrown into the compost long with it’s authors.
OMG… Bernarditas Muller was just dropped out of the talks.
From http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/04/copenhagen-climate-cummit-talks-critic
“The US and Europe have been accused of employing underhand diplomatic tactics ahead of the Copenhagen climate change summit after one of their strongest developing country critics was dismissed from a national delegation.
The Philippine government gave no official reason for dropping Bernarditas Muller, a key negotiator on behalf of the 130 G77 developing countries. But non-governmental groups said it was clearly linked to her long-standing opposition to US and European attempts to abandon the Kyoto protocol, the legal agreement that commits rich countries to cut greenhouse gas emissions.”
Goreacle Report: Be happy we warned you that AGW, aka global warming, will kill you.
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“Calgary perilously snowed-in
Residents fear road blockages in emergency
CALGARY — Northeast Calgarians say their lives are in greater peril should another massive fire or health emergency happen on snowed-in streets littered with stuck vehicles.
Saddletree Dr. N.E., facing a north open field with no shield from high winds, has been impassable since Friday.”
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2009/12/08/12077726-sun.html
Pigs who thought they were headed to the trough find out they might be headed to the slaughterhouse. This is all about money and power, not the environment.
Are you telling me that the entire political circus since Rio 1992 is just an elaborate facade to rebrand the World Bank’s lending policies whilst maintaining the status quo??
“The US and Europe have been accused of employing underhand diplomatic tactics”
The Chicago Way goes global.
Something is definitely Rotten in Denmark…Or some body…
It will be interesting to see if politicians start distancing themselves from the whole AGW scam.This should give them an out.
I guess we’ll hear that it was the Freemasons who leaked this. Freemasons working for the Russians.
World Bank, hmmm I think Obama knows someone there?… Oh yes, his trusted advisor Paul Volker.
Sorry to be pessimistic, but so far, the leaked code has had little impact on any of the “true believers” within government, mass media or within entrenched political circles that venerate this movement. The true believers have merely ramped up the “few bad apples don’t ruin the harvest” line, and have proceeded to repeat the same slogans that they’ve been making for years.
Copenhagen might be in “disarray,” but it’s not in disarray for the right reasons. It should be in disarray because the so-called science of AGW is not science but politics and propaganda. The complaining in Copenhagen is all about how much to cut, and who cuts what for how much. There is virtually no questioning of the premise that lies behind this group-think festival.
The irony to this whole road show is that the true believers still don’t have to prove their case. Instead, they merely demand that “skeptics” disprove it, and then disparage the skeptics when they do so. When it comes to propaganda technique, [snip].
[REPLY – What they don’t get is that a few bad apples do ruin the applesauce. ~ Evan]
This latest leak has necessitated the need to take a leak.
The only faulty part of this circle of agreement was its cone of silence
Denbo:
“If they drafted such a document and yet left out China and India those countries would head for the door in a heartbeat. Unless of course they ARE named in the list of ‘rich countries’ or perhaps they are given a separate but equally juicy deal.”
Very, very good point.
Sean:
Leakers might be Russians. Obama thought maybe he has them stupefied with his mere existence.
Ever notice how a group beyond a certain size has trouble deciding which restaurant to go to for dinner and when to leave?
Legislatures manage to get something done, but do so in groups run by a few parties.
The only hope for COP-15 to get something done is to do something similar, and they’re sort of doing that – developed/developing/undeveloped, Carbon gorillas/gnats, etc, but I doubt there’s the organization to be effective.
If people are coming you with non-starters like this, I’m encouraged that COP-15 will collapse into a mob of bureaucratic finger pointing (and maybe real fist fights). Of course, given the little reaction to a global tax on countries, perhaps people actually thought this might not be a non-starter.
My compliments and thanks to whoever wrote this document.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6763409/Copenhagen-climate-summit-Blindfolds-at-Copenhagen-are-hiding-the-crucial-issues.html
Great article by Christopher Booker.
No information so far by the MSM on the Copenhagen Crisis, The Ministry of Truth (BBC) or Murdoch’s Sky News.
Maybe it has been done deliberately to give them a way to exit the stage gracefully.This may be the end.If so,it’s a rotten ending.
“Hmmm … gender equality, eh? How does this fit into the overarching goal of reduction of the dreaded CO2 emissions? ”
It doesn’t and this isn’t really about CO2 emissions. They are USING CO2 emissions and the fear they have generated surrounding CO2 emissions to further a much larger agenda. It isn’t really about CO2 at all but it is vital that the masses believe it is about CO2.
ShrNfr (09:29:05) :
> I propose we commit all those who attended this conference to an extended stay at McLean Hospital in Belmont.
For people not familiar with Belmont, Massachusetts, USA, this is a mental hospital outside of Boston. See http://mcleanhospital.org/
Vincent:
“Maybe Western leaders are smarter than we have given them credit for, and are gaming the system to benefit of the West.”
IMHO you are SO CORRECT and very perceptive. I have never believed all this hogwash that the DEVELOPING WORLD was forcing the WEST to drastically reduce their C02 footprints (except maybe try to).
I am from a developing country and I have NEVER EVER believed in the WEST committing ECONOMIC HARIKIRI!!! Pure and simple!
“He who pays the piper plays the tune.” via the WORLD BANK of course.
Western governments still want to tax your eyballs out though (double warming scammy).
Dieter (10:55:16)
“Copenhagen might be in “disarray,” but it’s not in disarray for the right reasons. It should be in disarray because the so-called science of AGW is not science but politics and propaganda.
[…]
The irony to this whole road show is that the true believers still don’t have to prove their case. ”
Bingo. The same preamble I noted earlier begins:
“The Parties underline that climate change is one of the greatest challenges of our time and commit to a vigorous response through immediate ambitious national action and strengthened international cooperation with a view to limit global average temperature rise to a maximum of 2 degrees above pre-industrial levels. The Parties are convinced of the need to address
climate change […]”
The magic “2 degrees” appears only twice more in the document. So not only is the science “settled” (notwithstanding any “fog of uncertainty” – per Hulme in the WSJ of Dec. 2), for all intents and purposes, it’s now written in stone.
And the foggy solution to the climate question steamroller just keeps rollin’ along.
In Sweden, two of the largest newspapers online versions have picked this story up. One of them seems to have misinterpred the story though.
Mike A. (09:15:01) :
Cleavage in the American Physical Society :
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/08/taking_liberties/entry5933353.shtml
First rational post by CBS I’ve heard of, and I congratulated them for it.
It’s very good.
REPLY: oh, that’s a headline that cries out for a photo – Anthony
New reports cite a ‘circus atmosphere’ that is coming apart at the seams.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,579734,00.html
At Carbonhagen, nobody is in charge, but everyone wants to be the Chief.
They need judges to rate the Parade entries.