One of the favorite put-downs from people who think they have the moral high ground in the climate debate is to accuse skeptics with this phrase: “You are nothing but a shill for Big Oil”
Who amongst us hasn’t seen variants of that pointed finger repeated thousands of times? The paradigm has shifted. Now it appears CRU is the one looking for “big oil” money. See the email:
See the entire email here:
http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=171&filename=962818260.txt
There’s more.
But wait that’s not all!
Further down in that email, look at who else they were looking to for money. Oh, this is horrible, it just can’t be, they wouldn’t. They were looking to not only BP but, but EXXON in its Esso incarnation:
See the entire email here:
http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=156&filename=947541692.txt
Now who is the shill for Big Oil again? Next time somebody brings up that ridiculous argument about skeptics, show them this.
h/t and thanks to WUWT reader “boballab”
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This may already have been picked up–
From the Times (London)
Met Office to re-examine 160 years of climate data at http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6945445.ece
Breach in MSM coverup of AGW/CRU fraud.
…-
“Breach in global-warming bunker shakes foundations of climate science
Leaked e-mails from Britain’s Climatic Research Unit threaten to undermine Copenhagen summit on carbon emissions”
“a crisis of confidence in global-warming science that is threatening to destroy the political consensus around next week’s carbon-policy summit in Copenhagen.”
“On a political level, coming on the eve of the Copenhagen summit, the controversy has been catastrophic”.
“Saudi Arabian officials now say that they will argue in Copenhagen that carbon-emission controls are pointless because the CRU scandal has nullified any evidence of human-caused atmospheric temperature increase.”
“Unusually, even sympathetic scientists and some activists have concluded that the credibility of climate science has been seriously harmed.”
“Prof. Hulme is one of several scientists calling for the raw data of climate-change research to be made available to everyone, including climate-change skeptics, on the Internet.”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/breach-in-global-warming-bunker-shakes-foundations-of-climate-science/article1389842/
Canada’s national newspaper, the Globe and Mail:
“If you think that calling global warming an irrational mania is a bit harsh, consider this: Say that a pharmaceutical company’s researchers were caught fudging their tests to make their drug look effective; then, when found out, conveniently lost the non-fudged data. If a doctor prescribed for your child the fraudsters’ drug, would you let her take it? If you said yes, would we not be justified in saying you are acting irrationally?”
http://bit.ly/6l27U5
There is no way that a few months ago something like this would make it to this paper. This is a huge turn of events – the MSM are realizing that they quite simply cannot longer ignore this story. The tipping point has been reached.
Speaking of Climategate and Invasion of the Body Snatchers:
“…But it is the preceding scene – of McCarthy madly trying to flag down cars on a motorway and warn their inhabitants of the pending alien menace – that is the hallmark horror of Siegel’s version, and the leitmotif of all versions since: the lone voice of truth in an unbelieving world, fleeing the lies and easy conceit of a common enemy….” (text by Martin Anderson)
Eerie. He even got the Mc part.
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/8781/versions_invasion_of_the_body_snatchers.html
FWIW I don’t see anything on the Met Office site announcing a re-evaluation of the surface data.
Roger (16:58:40) :
Thx for the info! It’s sometimes hard to check the facts from the other side of the globe and our dear alarmist friends seem to use every argument they can get hold of nowadays.
OT, but finally some MSM attention to “leaked” e-amils:
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-email-mess-hits-australia-20091204-kb39.html
Only a few weeks late, but still Tiger Woods is headline news *sigh*
LOL. Great pic and great catch.
Their hypocrisy has no bounds. I love it!
Anthony: I finally got a reply from NOAA on the missing data from Weaverville 049490.
They needed to know when the person named was supposed to be the observer, and they will research it.
049490 CA 01 WEAVERVILLE RS TRINITY
049490 01 01 1871 06 30 1893 000000000000000 40 44 122 56 999 999 2050 9999 999 WEAVERVILLE 000000000000000100000000000000000000 9999 9999 1000000000000000 GEORGE E NOONAN 00
049490 01 01 1894 05 31 1894 000000000000000 40 44 122 56 999 999 2050 9999 999 WEAVERVILLE 010000110000000100000000000000000000 9999 9999 0000000000000000 GUSSIE L STILLER
and they confirmed the above was correct.
They needed to know when the person named was supposed to be the observer, and they will research it.
This could be good.
REPLY: The guy who ran the drug store in downtown Weaverville. Died about three years ago. His wife has been trying to keep it up, but has been ill too. See the photos in the gallery.surfacestations.org, may help you place it. The sensor is at his house, near the garage. -A
Gail Combs (17:35:04) :
None of the oil/coal companies stand to lose from any of this just the poor and middle class who have another tax added to their backs while the bankers and politicians make more money.
The Great Depression led to WWII. Despite his boasting, Bernanke is powerless to fix the economy. It could not be otherwise since an economy is too complicated for top down control (socialist calculation problem). The PTB had better realize the peril that a Greater Depression will put them in too and LET GO.
Too much is lining up:
1. the economy.
2. Middle East troubles
3. possible crop losses due to cold weather.
This is no time to be stupid.
Looks like the squeaky wheel has been getting some “grease” … er, lubrication, er, oil.
maz2 (18:57:57) :
Maz2, I hope the leaker is reading those statements?/headlines?
Time to erect a statue and start a defense fund.
REPLY: The guy who ran the drug store in downtown Weaverville. Died about three years ago. His wife has been trying to keep it up, but has been ill too. See the photos in the gallery.surfacestations.org, may help you place it. The sensor is at his house, near the garage. -A
[snipped for observer privacy – contact me offline]
I’m glad BO moved the date in Cophenhagen. That will give Climategate an extra week to fester in his craw.
Re: INGSOC (18:02:43)
As Gail Combs points out, left/right lines are a tool of the elite.
singularian (11:45:24) :
There’s also uea-tyndall-shell-memo.doc in the documents.
Talks of possible funding for Tyndall center from Shell in return for Shell being able to partially set the research agenda.
That document is dated 11.Sep.2000 and signed Mick Kelly. It seems like he e-mailed it (or a close version of it) the same day — see here:
http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=185&filename=968691929.txt
From: “Mick Kelly”
To: m.hulme@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, t.oriordan@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: Shell International
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:05:29 +0100
Reply-to: m.kelly@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Mike and Tim
Notes from the meeting with Shell International attached.
Sorry about the delay.
I suspect that the climate change team in Shell International is probably
the best route through to funding from elsewhere in the organisation
including the foundation as they seem to have good access to the top
levels.
Mick
Attachment Converted: “c:eudoraattachshell.doc”
Some points from the document:
What ensued was necessarily a rather speculative discussion with the following points emerging.
1. Shell International would give serious consideration to what I referred to in the meeting as a ‘strategic partnership’ with the TC, broadly equivalent to a ‘flagship alliance’ in the TC proposal. A strategic partnership would involve not only the provision of funding but some (limited but genuine) role in setting the research agenda etc.
2. Shell’s interest is not in basic science. Any work they support must have a clear and immediate relevance to ‘real-world’ activities. They are particularly interested in emissions trading and CDM.
Obama and Al Gore changing their Copenhagen plans is big. The clever rats are abandoning the ship. The scientists will be the guilty scapegoats. It won’t surprise me to see Michael Mann, Gavin Schmidt and James Hansen being hostiley questioned by the same politicians who have whole-heartedly supported global warming in the past.
Question?
We all know the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit in the UK acknowledged in response to a freedom of information request under British law that it tossed out much of the raw data that it used to draw up the temperature models that have underpinned much of the science behind global warming.
Is there a name or names of those who carried out the tossing?
Or is this one of those Mr. Nobody did it?
The system did it?
There are good reasons why we see the unprecedented agreement between big business, big government, and environmental groups that the climate alarmism scam is the greatest thing to come along. All groups stand to benefit massively.
Here is an example from Alberta, Canada, where Shell is benefiting to the tune of $865 million. The story dates from October 2009.
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/technology/Shell+project+captures+865M/2082387/story.html
“Alberta and the federal government laid down their first big bet in the fight to limit carbon dioxide industrial emissions Thursday, promising Shell Canada Energy $865 million in financial support for its Quest project near Fort Saskatchewan.”
“Alberta’s ante is $745 million from its $2-billion carbon capture and storage program, while Ottawa is chipping in $120 million from a fund that supports large-scale CO2 projects across Canada.”
“Shell Quest will not inject any CO2 until 2015. But it aims to eventually inject up to 1.2 million tonnes each year of CO2 produced by the Scotford bitumen upgrader and its expansion, which is now under construction.”
Steve S.: I doubt CRU had any believable data in the first place. If they had, the people who gathered the data should be outraged that their work was carelessly tossed. There have been no such people who have come forward. But even if they had, the fact that the process has been so secretive (and then they “lost” the secret) means that the data must be redone. If they truly believe in the science, the carelessness of the global warming scientists have set their science back at least 20 years. Probably longer because of the public relations damage.
Kevin, you seem to be as disgusted as I am with the profligate waste by our Provincial Government and Premier, Special Ed Stelmach! The self-interest wheel is just starting to turn!
This is unbeatable. The Donald Sutherland image is perfect–he did all his early 1960s work at Hammer studios in the UK– he was on The Avengers for Christ’s sake. Even better, that version (which also had a cameo by Kevin McCarthy from the original) took place in San Francisco.
Does anyone who represents that bastion of reason have anything to do with Thermageddon legislation?
Why, why, I just can’t seem to recall, judge.
The major energy companies have been working both sides of the track since the 1970s funding Eco-greenies on some projects and fighting them on others.
NOTHING PERSONAL _ JUST BUSINESS.
Now as the AGW train is heading down hill into Copenhagan it seems to be coming off the tracks. Big Al Gore has abruptly left town without a word. Obama is trying to duck out, and many of the more important partisipants are calling for it to be canceled.
Isn’t the “net that covers the world” wonderful?
“May you live in interesting times”
““The rationale behind the research is that quantitative comparison of reconstructions and simulations of climate over the past two millennia can provide an assessment of the extent to which natural and anthropogenic forcing can explain observed patterns of climatic change.””
What a scam. Getting simulations to better compare with reconstructions is why the climate models went kaput in the first place…if they get the past wrong there ain’t no way they’re gonna be able to predict the future.
I’ve been saying for almost two weeks now that the hockey stick and the team’s insistence on covering for it actually sabotaged the models and climate science.
I second the previous poster who pointed out that the energy majors are not primarily in the business of extracting energy. They are in the business of extracting money. I imagine that Shell and BP hope to profit handsomely from carbon credit trading.
BP has a refinery in Texas they can’t be bothered to fix, and as a result of which they had a large explosion a couple years back, which killed several workers. Why spend money on oil extraction and refining – it’s so much easier to trade paper.
Goldman-Sachs (otherwise known as the sole owner of the US Treasury Department) is also a big proponent of Cap and Trade. And another early proponent of C&T? ENRON.
I propose we start referring to all of them – Al Gore too, of course – as “Big Carbon”.