While still carrying the label “Development Prototype”, the website looks mostly functional. www.climate.gov
It is the effort of the new NOAA Climate Services division – your tax dollars at work. They write:
At this time, the NCS Portal prototype only scratches the surface of the many climate datasets, products, and services available across NOAA. This effort will gradually transition from a prototype to an operational status over the next year. Our plan is to actively gather user feedback through focus groups, usability studies, and informal communications. Over the next several years, we will expand the NCS Portal’s scope and functionality in a user-driven manner to greatly enhance the accessibility and usefulness of NOAA’s climate resources. As this effort continues to expand in future years, partners from outside of NOAA will become involved in this effort. The NCS Portal will be a central component of NOAA’s commitment to enhancing the access to and extensibility of climate data and services, timely articles and information, education resources, and tools for engagement and decision-making.
Here’s the main page, which is not fully shown because it is so tall:
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NOAA also manages the Argos-which-must-not-be-named fleet. Whaddya suppose the odds are of that inconvenient data being included on that website?
p.s., user driven via focus groups? how quaint. good to see our government is keeping abreast of the most modern techniques from last century.
“Even though NOAA manages a satellite program, satellite data is not included, as they seem to still prefer the dodgy surface temperature record.”
Even the surface temperature record is a skeptic’s friend with one small change!
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/839/noaadontpanic.gif
They don’t show the pirate graph either.
John Egan (21:52:21): … it is just a heaping helping of convoluted gobbledy-gook.
John, you need to learn Newspeak. It is the verbal equivalent of Opposite Day. What a Newspeaker says and what they mean are the opposite.
For instance, when they say, “… access to and extensibility of climate data and services, timely articles and information, education resources, and tools for engagement and decision-making,” they mean just the opposite — hide the data, obstruct publications, deny resources to education, and provide no useful tools.
Like any government agency, NOAA acts in exact contravention of their stated missions.
However, they work for us, and we are their bosses because we pay their salaries, and we have ways of reminding them of that, and this new NOAA/NCS website is going to be interactive whether they like it or not.
The dashboard on NOAA’s website shows the Arctic ocean at it’s 3rd lowest record min. since 1979 but fails to mention the Amundsen Expedition that sailed the Northwest passage in a sailing boat (with no engine) in 1906. That’s the kind of omission that makes us mistrust them. BTW; The ship is in Vancouver Canada on display in a museum. I took a tour of it for a geology class in 1986.
I can see the AZ 86th Congressional district.
(USA inside joke)
Actually, it’s hilarious! Can someone grabs a screenshot of the main page, with all the graphs on it, and then click on the ‘Incoming Sunlight’ graph and take a screenshot of that page, too? ( https://www.climate.gov/climate_dashboard/Sun.html )
..before they notice and alter the second one!! 🙂
The 2nd view of the solar graph shows an increase in solar radiation that matches the temperature graph. Hmm isn’t that interesting?
The Incoming Sunlight (%) data in the Global Climate Dashboard illustration is based on obsolete TSI data.
HR
You must be extremely naive if you believe this represents greater transparency.
The only thing transparent is the intent to spin the debate – for example, just a cursory look throws up this with respect to claimed increasing acidity of the ocean “This change in ocean chemistry interferes with the ability of marine plants and animals to build their shells”. I refer you to yesterday’s “Oh Snap” post which reveals that at least some (note no claim for universality here) can cope admirably.
Oops! Should’ve run through the thread. My last comment had already been noted by Leif.
As Emily Litella used to say, “Nevermind.”
In the wake of Climategate, they sure aren’t making much of a statement in terms of transparency, reguritating the same warming bias. Doesn’t say a whole lot for what they think about public support for funding.
sheesh, just call it money.gov, get to the point
“This change in ocean chemistry interferes with the ability of marine plants and animals to build their shells”.
Inconvenient science story today has a picture of how it in facts helps them:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091201182622.htm
A professional version of my take on their temperature graphs:
http://i47.tinypic.com/rc0rpj.jpg
Can it really be just that simple?
The first thought that came to my mind was that this web site is a direct response to the phenomenal success of blogs like WUWT and CA in getting out the truth.
Take it as a compliment Anthony. It’s as close as they are going to get to giving you one.
The NOAA does need to fix their website.
They have hundreds of databases and much of it has been presented by individual scientists in relevant useful ways.
Its just that you can’t find it. The really good material one has to find by accident almost.
And it is essentially impossible to get any raw temperature data (even though Jones is now saying that all/most of the raw data he threw away is held at the NOAA/NCDC – there is a file where it might be but good luck getting anything useful out of it).
They’ve been in the dark since 1999.
What’s the reason to let end the sun-graph in 2000 ?
Could it be bad to show linked decline of sun and temperature ?
A little ot, but I notice that CNN.com has a front page story about a small Alaskan village that they claim is being destroyed by AGW. Note that tucked away in the emotional appeals to save them from AGW, these folks were forced to stop being nomads about 100 years ago.
Quote: “Shishmaref’s people were nomadic, following seals and caribou, until the U.S. Bureau of Indian Affairs built a school on the island in the early 1900s and forced Inupiat children to attend.”
Endquote
So it seems to me that blame for their current predicament can be placed squarely on some government do-gooder, rather than modern society and all that nasty old CO2 (sarc) that is largely the result of natural processes anyway and is the stuff of life.
Hopefully they spent less than $18,000,000 to develop this site.
I left them a suggestion, pointing out they call it a global dashboard. To avoid confusing the public they should included an Antarctic sea ice panel or combine with the Arctic panel to show true global sea ice.
Its not working for me….I think it is taken back down.
I have a great and obvious idea for this web-site!!!
Do the same dashboard thing but make it truely useful. Add in the missing datasets this leaves out like solar flux and antartic ice. Add in a separate sat temp graph with the separate lines for lower and upper. Extend the temp graph to the end of the last ice age color coding which proxy is used. Keep the slider.
Only with the long view of temps is our current rise out of the last ‘little ice age’ in context.
I have to wonder about their temp graph since many of the reconstrutions out there show the 30’s were the warmest of the last century and not the 90s. I would put in the most accurate overall temp graph with the best data possible.
This web site could be the ‘truth site’ and take the best of the publically available data and dashboard all of the data with the slider. The skeptics sites have never been about skepticism as a bias, but skepticism as in scientific skepticism. Prove it or lose it!
The more easy to access truth the better.
Other useful charts on the super dashboard could be cloud cover, radiation budget over time.
A true and correct and complete dashboard instead of the biased joke Noaa just put up could be are real educational tool for the less informed public to start asking real questions.
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Reason: You’re speaking plain HTTP to an SSL-enabled server port.
Instead use the HTTPS scheme to access this URL, please.
Hint: https://ncs.ncdc.noaa.gov/
lol
Double lol
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The certificate is only valid for http://www.climate.gov
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Actually diverted to https://ncs.ncdc.noaa.gov/.