Climategate turbulence

Russ Steele writes: President Obama will soon be on his his way to Copenhagen and his Bagdad Bob moment in Air Force One.  Climategate is sure to create some turbulence.

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Richard
November 30, 2009 9:17 pm

Galileo (19:48:03) : – Maybe Rudd should be told that flying to Copenhagen is bad for his (and Aussies) carbon footprint. If he has to go he should sail across.

doug
November 30, 2009 9:24 pm

I have been searching for an old Doonesbury. Nixon didn’t want to release his tapes during the Watergate scandal, claiming they could be misinterpreted out of context.
Doonesbury’s example: “So, How’s the cover-up going, John?”
Yes, out of context, that could be misinterpreted!
Gavin needs to see it.

Michael
November 30, 2009 9:48 pm

Time to have some fun.
Baghdad Bob

Michael
November 30, 2009 9:52 pm

Iraqi Information Minister
Mohammed Saïd al-Sahaf

wobble
November 30, 2009 9:52 pm

I wonder if anyone has even warned Obama about this.

wobble
November 30, 2009 9:57 pm

I wonder if anyone has even warned Obama about this potential minefield he might be walking into.

debreuil
November 30, 2009 9:58 pm

I think I’ve found proof that the unadjusted data still produces a hockey stick:
http://debreuil.com/temp/hockeyStick.jpg

janama
November 30, 2009 10:26 pm
Reed Coray
November 30, 2009 10:28 pm

Galileo (19:48:03) :
AUSSIE! AUSSIE! AUSSIE!
I hope I spelled that correctly.

Cassandra King
November 30, 2009 10:40 pm

The BBC in the UK, a world media platform is strangely silent on the Australian political revolt against carbon trading(CTS).
An uneasy silence descends over the BBC and noticeable blank spaces are starting to appear in the BBC coverage of events that contradict the AAM political narrative, if it damages the narrative it does not exist on planet beeboid.
The fabricated consensus is failing, the Copenhagen summit/festival of lies is being peddled by the BBC as if the future of the BBC depended on it, they are pulling out all the stops, overriding any supposed boundaries on reporting and peddling the summit with the determination of the fanatic.
Watch the BBC coverage and witness the degradation of the old MSM, watch and witness the crumbling of a false and fabricated narrative, they look like and sound like a Warsaw pact news agency just prior to the iron curtain collapse. They fully deserve their fate.

Ceres
November 30, 2009 10:59 pm

Despite Tony Abbott saying the ETS is CRAP (when asked today he said that his words were hyperbole) it seems he will be approaching the controversy in terms of a NEW TAX. That will get through to the uninformed public in Australia – 81% of whom say they don’t know enough.

O. Weinzierl
November 30, 2009 11:29 pm
Galileo
November 30, 2009 11:55 pm

@Ceres (22:59:31)
Careful what you read into a set of careful statements at a press conference when he had just been confirmed as leader.
His party has just made a 180 degree change of direction on the ETS, having junked the previous leader. Abbott was very clear to the press conference that the party had decided to oppose the ETS. The journalists at the conference, who are mainly believers and want to embarrass the opposition, were mostly asking questions intended to put him on the spot and to brand him a “denier”, which he avoided.
Since the party has just changed direction through this leadership decision, it obviously has not had time to research and develop a well articulated set of new policies. So, within that constraint, he was very careful in what he said.
Asked if he believes in global warming, he said “yes, but it is unclear how much is due to mankind”. Queried on his previous statement that “global warming is crap” (not “the ETS is CRAP” as Ceres suggested – the Liberal Party now agrees the ETS is CRAP), he said that was hyperbole. But hyperbole is always built on a core of truth, so he defused a question he did not want to answer at the time, without denying the underlying point and without boxing himself in for the future.
He is an able politician. He said a number of times that the government was going to have a fight at the next election (2010). He is not going to attempt to win an election by competing with the government over whose version of tax should be imposed. That is a guaranteed way to lose. (The new tax idea was raised at the conference by one of the journalists, not by Abbott.)
For the moment the Liberal Party is focused on the job of rejecting the ETS. When it comes to an election they would lose all credibility if they do not continue that logic, unless there was overwhelming and publicly convincing arguments for it. And we all know (warmists excluded) there is not.
Incidentally, when the Liberals were in government, Turnbull (the leader just junked) was Environment Minister. He introduced a law outlawing incandescent light bulbs in favour of the much more expensive, less illuminating bulbs. That law is just starting to bite now and the public will really feel it next (election) year. It would have been a political inconvenience for the Liberal Party to have the architect of that dud decision as leader at the time. Now he is gone and Labor can wear the opprobrium when the public starts screaming.

Andrew
December 1, 2009 1:04 am

Anthropogenic Global Warming Virus Alert.
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s5i64103

KeithGuy
December 1, 2009 4:27 am

Try this link! I created it to illustrate the stubborn refusal of the AGW movement to think that they could be wrong!
http://www.tinysites.com/SitesPublic/AllSites/0/03/36/29/guyk937182/PublishPC/~Index.xml/Photos/Pix1.htm?r=6215667

matt v.
December 1, 2009 6:31 am

Will Copenhagen Conference lead or be a tragic and expensive mistake for world leaders?
This is a strange times that we live in today. Most of the world leaders are about to gather in Copenhagen next week to agree on a plan to reduce the emission of carbon dioxide with the hope of avoiding further global warming and fight climate change . The total world expenditures will be well into the trillions of dollars through more taxation, higher energy costs and redistribution of wealth.
Yet there has been no unusual global warming for at least a decade and the small amount of warming that there was, has now been accounted for by the natural planetary cycle called ENSO or El Nino. All natural cycles like AMO, PDO, NAO and lunisolar tidal forces are pointing to a near term future of 20-30 years of cooler weather rather than unprecedented warming. The globe has been naturally warming since 1600 and periods of warming and cooling like today have existed many times before. The earth also follows a longer term1500 year climate cycle and we just happen to be in the warmer phase since 1600.
Recently released e-mails from the CRU climategate show the IPCC scientists saying that, “we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t”. Their science has turned out to be flawed. The global temperatures have been declining while the CO2 was rising, completely opposite of what their science said.
So we have our current world that cannot find adequate money to fight world wide unemployment, poverty, disease, provide better health care and shelter for its poor, elderly and disenfranchised, yet it is willing to commit trillions of borrowed and tax dollars to solve a problem that may not even exist as currently defined, supported by questionable science and with a climate which at the very least, our best climate scientists claim they do not even understand.
Any prudent or rational steward or national leader who values his current elected office would say , this serious climate problem that we were told was imminent and catastrophic, no longer seems valid and the science is also far from settled or completely understood , you climate scientists better go back and study this better. Meanwhile we have other global and regional priorities that need the limited funds much more at this moment. This is what Copenhagen leaders should do but time will tell if there are any real leaders among this group. Perhaps Australia may have the first one.

John Galt
December 1, 2009 7:47 am

The data is fake but the science is solid.

Jeremy
December 1, 2009 9:46 am

This one’s great! I hope people are still checking this thread…
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_R6dL-3ZN9rI/Sw-SxGAbZRI/AAAAAAAAAAM/1EyrzVtC1uw/s1600/Slide1.GIF

Gail Combs
December 1, 2009 10:18 am

Chuck (18:11:50) :
i like this one from twawki’s web site
http://twawki.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/theoclimate-science1.png
Anthony can we get this one made up as tee shirt? It is SOooo appropriate.

December 1, 2009 10:48 am

Townhall.com has a good one with a polar bear:
http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/mrz112509dAPR20091201041804.jpg

Gail Combs
December 1, 2009 11:16 am

Ever heard of DDC?
It’s the Data Distribution Center and they want you to rate their page?????
http://www.ipcc-data.org/
I rated them very poor and got an error message. I guess that is one way to fudge the data…

Joe
December 1, 2009 11:30 am

My favorite line of the day (not cartoon) was from a member of a forum I frequent:
In response to a Warmer’s dismissal of the emails as “cherry picked”:
“Funny though how you criticize the whistle-blowers for not giving out “all their raw data” but not the climate scammers…
Hey , maybe they got lost in the 80s, or in a move , or just to save storage space. These “value added ” e-mails is what we got.”

Gail Combs
December 1, 2009 11:32 am

Cassandra King (22:40:54) :
The BBC in the UK, a world media platform is strangely silent on the Australian political revolt against carbon trading(CTS)…..
If the BBC is publicly funded and the public raises enough dust, can you get it closed down or at least do a major house cleaning?? – FIRE their donkeys!

Eowyn
December 1, 2009 11:33 am

There are some great Climategate satire posters by Bob Keyser on the Conservative Endowment for the Arts webpage!
http://conservativeendowmentforthearts.wordpress.com/gallery-one/

Dave Wendt
December 1, 2009 12:44 pm

I liked this one from Michael Ramirez…simple, but effective
http://townhall.com/cartoons/cartoonist/MichaelRamirez/2009/11/2/