How interesting that it has now risen to this level. Climategate? Quel Climategate?
This is a Radio Canada (RDI) reporter doing a live standup on CBC. That’s always a tough gig, I’ve done hundreds and you never know what the public around you is going to do.
Once I had to shove a person out of the shot who was grabbing for the microphone.
This of course is mild by comparison, but funny nonetheless.
h/t to WUWT reader Per Strandberg
maarten (17:03:57) “I am in Canada (green-socialist heaven)”
You’ve got to be joking (“green-socialist heaven”).
Anthony, thank you for your service here, very well done. And Steve McIntyre.
The word is definitely out.
A French newscast with an English-language protest sign…huh.
I don’t speak French. What was the reporter saying?
Well, all I can say is it’s a marathon, not a sprint. In this day and age, we’re used to media pressure being focused to a pin-point on any given issue and over the course of a few weeks, a resolution found. But the great oil-tanker that is a scientific paradigm, perhaps like a religion, can only be turned around slowly. Paradigm shifts are generational, not daily or annual. This thing has been building for 20 years. It’s going to take at least that long to fully dissapate.
Good news for the popcorn industry!
John Silver (16:59:42) :
twawki (16:36:32) :
“Gore flees in panic from angry mob”
Video! Please!
See, that’s the problem with angry mobs – no one remembers to bring a video camera!
OT but I foresee that the number of accesses to this fine blog surely exceeds 25 MILLION in just a tad LESS THAN THREE YEARS since its inception (30th Nov 2006).
The Hippie and the Corpulent
or
Ode to WUWT and Steve
The sun was shining on the earth,
Dimming with all his might:
He did his very best to make
Mans reason really bright–
And this was odd, because it seems
At Starbucks there’s no light.
The profs were griping sulkily,
Because they thought no one
Had got business probing them
After the fraud was done–
“It’s very rude of Steve,” they said,
“To come and spoil the fun!”
The sea was huge as wet could be,
The deserts still were dry.
The winds were swirling
Just the same,
As reason passed us by.
The questioners were honest,
The scientists would lie.
Hippie and the Corpulent
Were surfing on the net
They wept like anything to see
That Wall Street’s just a bet.
“If we could only scare the world”
They said, “we’d get their debt!”
“Oh greenies come and surf with us”
Hansen did beseech
A simple trick, a mindless trip
In Google Earth’s fake reach.
We cannot do with more than four
To give a mil to each.
The sober thinkers looked at him
But not a word they said
“We need to get off foreign oil.
Who cares what’s in his head?
I’m sure our ends are similar,
But we’re not easily led.”
But four researchers hurried up
All eager for the trick
Their thinking stoned, their tactics honed,
Their ethics mostly sick–
And this was RIGHT, because you know,
belonging is a kick!
Four other dreamers followed them
And yet another four,
And thick and fast they came at last,
The media and more!
All looking for a Brand New Car,
And dreamily at Gore.
Hansen and the Goracle
slouched on a year or so.
And then they stooped down from the heights,
Conveniently low.
And all the little acolytes
just waited in a row.
“The time has come”, the UN said,
“To pay for many things.
For sycophants and secret clubs
To fly and live like kings.
And private jets and conferences,
Rapt groupies in the wings.”
“But wait a bit”, the public cried,
“Before we pass the hat,
We all are in foreclosure
And the future’s fallen flat!”
“Panic!”, said the Goracle,
“Steve’s nose can smell a rat!”
“Hockey sticks and subterfuge
Are what we chiefly need.
Disable all reality,
This hoax we have to feed!
Some geeks are adding all this up,
Prohibit all that screed!”
“But don’t tax US”, the public said,
“We have to think this through!
Our math, so bad, but we can add,
Our earnings go to you!”
“The ice is gone!”, Jim Hansen said,
“Next summer, we’ll be through!
Real Climate thanked the remnant
and silenced all the rest.
For what use are the numbers,
when Gaia serves you best?
It failed to pay upon the day
the geek had fouled the nest!
“It’s such a thrill”, the thinkers said,
“To roust them from their dumps,
Of simple tricks and media
That kicked us in the rumps.
We will not stop until their ilk
Has taken all their lumps.”
“We laugh at you”, the people said,
“We do not sympathize!
Unearthing all your data
Has opened up our eyes.
The blogosphere is EVERYONE
you need a good disguise!”
“Oh peons”, said the media
You fail to see the light,
“The hoax goes on, the stocks are pawns,
the planet’s in a plight!
If we can’t fool you one more time
we will resort to might”.
And then the savior stepped up
to cover all our sin.
“The planet first, the world is theirs,
we never planned to win.
I think that math and all that stuff,
are subject to my whim!”
The people saw the UN
had made a secret scheme
to grab it all in pretense
of waking from the dream.
When really all they wanted,
was our financial cream.
The rest is up to you, dumb geeks,
the battle almost won.
Will we surrender common sense
or thank the quiet sun?
Thank EVERYONE who looks around.
and Watts is number ONE!
This Thanksgiving I’m so thankful to my personal daemon of whimsy and common sense, and to Steve and Anthony and all the watchers and askers who just can’t leave it alone.
@PaulH read the article.. very polite and simple.
we need more common sense these days ;[
I have concluded that the Main Stream Press down here isn’t publishing anything on it because they don’t have a “Science Fiction” section in the paper.
I live in Montreal, Canada, and I have yet to see one news report on climategate from the CBC, CTV, and Global TV (All three are networks in Canada).
Have you ever seen this graph, its from a temprature station in germany, from 1782 to now. Looks to mee like its no coincedence that al the graphs take 1880/1890 as a starting point!
http://climatereason.com/LittleIceAgeThermometers/Hohenpeissenberg_Germany.html
@maarten – the new issue of Macleans has a two page story written by Mark Steyn. National Post has also written about it, but no one else has touched this story. No coverage from CBC, Globe and Mail or Toronto Red Star to date. I can’t think of another story that would be so huge on the internet yet be so ignored by the MSM. It’s over the so-called professional media as we know it. They have become completely irrelevant.
The only thing that annoys me is that the press and public are starting to listen as a result of this ‘hack’.
The hack shows poor data and dodgy programming – but this does not invalidate the AGW hypothesis. It shows CRU scientists planning to suppress dissenting voices – this is cause to sack them, but it does not invalidate the AGW hypothesis.
What does invalidate the hypothesis is SM’s sterling work in disproving Mann (whilst under incredible pressure to give up). But the press never noticed that. It was too complicated. A hack revealing a secret plot – now that they can understand. It happens all the time in the movies…
I just checked the BBC site, with a search on “CRU”.
Three hits: One on a story of how UEA is bickering over who to appoint to head an inquiry, and two on an interview by Roger Harrabin with his “contacts” at the CRU.
If, as the PR spin claims, the files were stolen, why do they need to appoint somebody to head to an internal inquiry? Why not report it to the police, who would presumably be unbiased in scientific matters? Just thinking.
And some interesting snippets from one of interview reports:
“The climate science website RealClimate sees the CRU computer raid as the latest attempt by lobbyists to discredit mainstream climate science at a critical time.
It explains in detail what it says is the legitimate scientific rationale behind some of the apparently incriminating emails, and says they offer a glimpse into the real world of science.”
OK, so “those dastardly lobbyists dun the job officer – it weren’t me, honest”.
and “the real world of science”, say what?
Obviously this journalist (and I use that term very loosely) has no idea that RealClimate is a mouthpiece for the CRU, as stated quite clearly in one of the aforesaid incriminating emails!
But wait – there’s more …
“It’s obvious that the noise-generating components of the blogosphere will generate a lot of noise about this,” says RealClimate. “But it’s important to remember that… gravity isn’t a useful theory because Newton was a nice person.”
No, gravity is a useful theory because it works, and it has yet to be disproved.
This all gets more banal by the day …
Mike McMillan (16:31:02)
It’s “très”…just like temperature…we fear…they hope…
Thanks for posting. As a Canadian I’m very disappointed with CBC’s complete lack of coverage, and continual toadying to the gurus of hypocrisy: Al Gore and David Suzuki. No doubt the mother corp thinks they know what’s best for Canadians….
Just so everyone knows, “pwn3d” is a way to spell “pwned”, which is pronounced as “poned”. It is from the video game world and it means “to be controlled against your will”, or “to be defeated by a superior power”.
Some examples of this pwned expression in digital culture:
•”I got pwned by those three horde players. They ganked me bad.”
•”We pwned that other team, woot!”
•”Hahaha! Jason got pwned in arena today!”
•”That was total pwnage! We totally crushed that boss monster!”
Some examples of this pwned expression in daily life:
•”That speeder got totally pwned by that radar trap cop!”
•”We pwned that other basketball team!”
•”Oh, man. I got totally pwned by the aerobics instructor in class today. That was so difficult!”
•”Pwnage! I got an A on that exam! Woot!”
(Credit for the definition and examples belongs to about.com.)
In the case of Climategate, Jones, et al got totally pwned by who ever leaked the files. LOL!
I have sent many message to RDI, Radio-Canada to ask them to cover this news. Someone discussed it on the radio in montreal 95.1 FM in the morning. You can listen to it here: All in french…
http://www.radio-canada.ca/emissions/christiane_charette/2009-2010/chronique.asp?idChronique=96848
With some comments.
Something just came over me. LOL Since this is a humorous thread.
from Lewis Carroll, sometimes we have the words but not the rhythm.
The Hippie and the Corpulent
or
Ode to WUWT and Steve
The sun was shining on the earth,
Dimming with all his might:
He did his very best to make
Mans reason really bright–
And this was odd, because it seems
At Starbucks there’s no light.
The profs were griping sulkily,
Because they thought no one
Had got business probing them
After the fraud was done–
“It’s very rude of Steve,” they said,
“To come and spoil the fun!”
The sea was huge as wet could be,
The deserts still were dry.
The winds were swirling
Just the same,
As reason passed us by.
The questioners were honest,
The scientists would lie.
Hippie and the Corpulent
Were surfing on the net
They wept like anything to see
That Wall Street’s just a bet.
“If we could only scare the world”
They said, “we’d get their debt!”
“Oh greenies come and surf with us”
Hansen did beseech
A simple trick, a mindless trip
In Google Earth’s fake reach.
We cannot do with more than four
To give a mil to each.
The sober thinkers looked at him
But not a word they said
“We need to get off foreign oil.
Who cares what’s in his head?
I’m sure our ends are similar,
But we’re not easily led.”
But four researchers hurried up
All eager for the trick
Their thinking stoned, their tactics honed,
Their ethics mostly sick–
And this was RIGHT, because you know,
belonging is a kick!
Four other dreamers followed them
And yet another four,
And thick and fast they came at last,
The media and more!
All looking for a Brand New Car,
And dreamily at Gore.
Hansen and the Goracle
slouched on a year or so.
And then they stooped down from the heights,
Conveniently low.
And all the little acolytes
just waited in a row.
“The time has come”, the UN said,
“To pay for many things.
For sycophants and secret clubs
To snort and live like kings.
And private jets and conferences,
Rapt groupies in the wings.”
“But wait a bit”, the public cried,
“Before we pass the hat,
We all are in foreclosure
And the future’s fallen flat!”
“Panic!”, said the Goracle,
“Steve’s nose can smell a rat!”
“Hockey sticks and subterfuge
Are what we chiefly need.
Disable all reality,
This hoax we have to feed!
Some geeks are adding all this up,
Prohibit all that screed!”
“But don’t tax US”, the public said,
“We have to think this through!
Our math, so bad, but we can add,
Our earnings go to you!”
“The ice is gone!”, Jim Hansen said,
“Next summer, we’ll be through!
Real Climate thanked the remnant
and silenced all the rest.
For what use are the numbers,
when Gaia serves you best?
It failed to pay upon the day
the geek had fouled the nest!
“It’s such a thrill”, the thinkers said,
“To roust them from their dumps,
Of simple tricks and media
That kicked us in the rumps.
We will not stop until their ilk
Has taken all their lumps.”
“We laugh at you”, the people said,
“We do not sympathize!
Unearthing all your data
Has opened up our eyes.
The blogosphere is EVERYONE
you need a good disguise!”
“Oh peons”, said the media
You fail to see the light,
“The hoax goes on, the stocks are pawns,
the planet’s in a plight!
If we can’t fool you one more time
we will resort to might”.
And then the savior stepped up
to cover all our sin.
“The planet first, the world is theirs,
we never planned to win.
I think that math and all that stuff,
are subject to my whim!”
The people saw the UN
had made a secret scheme
to grab it all in pretense
of waking from the dream.
When really all they wanted,
was our financial cream.
The rest is up to you, dumb geeks,
the battle almost won.
Will we surrender common sense
or thank the quiet sun?
Thank EVERYONE who looks around.
and Watts is number ONE!
This Thanksgiving I’m so thankful to my personal daemon of whimsy and common sense, and to Steve and Anthony and all the watchers, dumb geeks, and askers who just can’t leave it alone.
Justin (16:35:11) : “…Damn song, stuck in my head now…”
This little PARODY should clear it right out of there, Justin:
M is for manipulated data,
O says that Obama wants to sign:
T is Copenhagen’s deadly treaty;
H is for Mann Hiding the decline.
E is for Erasure of CRU’s records,
R is peer Reviewing’s conga line.
String them all together, they spell snipsnip,
Till we get Obama to resign.
[Make up your own original melody.]
I have a 1st class honours degree in Intelligent Systems and I don’t understand some of the stuff that Steve M says, although I can generally follow the reasoning with help from thread comments. I have absolutely no problem with the fact that it’s just too difficult to get your head around for the average journalist, who probably studied literature, classics or philosophy at University.
This is the problem; there’s too much to know and only a lifetime to know it. Areas of experise become ghettoised (is that even a word?). It takes effort, time, study and a great deal of reading to become fully aquainted with a subject.
Would you blame a journalist for taking it on a plate from the “experts”? I wouldn’t. It doesn’t mean they’re right; just that they’re in the wrong job.
> BobMbx (17:28:25) :
>A French newscast with an English-language protest sign…huh.
That’s call a bilingual country, BobMbx.
>I don’t speak French. What was the reporter saying?
Not much, shortage of doctors [normal in a socialized state] and then signing off.
Still growing on the interwebby thingamabob Results 1 – 100 of about 11,400,000 for climategate. (0.85 seconds)
@Paul Vaughan – my comment about “green-socialist heaven” – I live in BC – generally, as left as it gets in Canada. I’d also spent almost 30 years of my life in a communist country. Having lived here for over 20 years, many times I’d felt like I was back there again. And even after all those years, every time, it still sent shivers down my spine…Perhaps my green-soc-left radar is just forever too sensitive to any hints of parallels to past nightmares.
As further illumination of the word PWNED, it is believed to have been a common misspelling of the word OWNED, as the “P” and “O” are right next to each other on the keyboard.
To paraphrase another gamer phrase: All your emails are belong to us!