Vaclav Klaus gets opt-out, EU clears hurdle to Lisbon treaty

No, this information is not correct.
Have a look at Motl’s blog about the subject here:
http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/10/eu-summit-on-global-warming-and-vaclav.html
There is a chance that the EU decision will vetoed by hungry and Austria:
Quote: “However, things will probably not be quite smooth. Various officials in Austria and Hungary have declared their determination to veto any concessions to the Czech Republic”
Besides that, the Lisbon Treaty is currently checked by the Czech High Court to determine if it’s compatible with the countries own Constitution.
The Czech High Court has stated it will present it’s finding on Tuesday next week, but it is possible they postpone the outcome as they already did once before.
And what will happen if there report is negative?
Until check is finished, the Court has forbidden Klaus to sign.
Klaus will play his cards to the max.

God forbid this ever gets ratified. there were 2 World wars to prevent this!
If there is a God, pray for help!
DaveE.

Fredrik Reinfeldt, my country’s prime minister as mentioned above, was today called a climate taliban for not doing enough on the climate issue. Interesting word combination.

@jim Bob
There has never been a constitution in the United Kingdom#. We just have Prince Charles to look forward to!

paulhan (17:48:33) :
I’m torn between the bads news about the Czechs and the good news about them not agreeing anything re climate change. I doubt very much if Austria, and particularly Hungary, will rock the boat.
Longer term, I can see the EU imploding under the weight of its own corruption and lack of real democracy. I just hope they haven’t sold us out to the UN before then.
They don’t have to Paulhan, read the Lisbon Treaty. The Climate bill is written into the treaty.

Tony Bliar is a champagne Socialist. A multi Millionaire Left Winger. Why should he become a President [ He created this faux position for himself btw] of the EU when there are more suitable candidates that don’t have Bliar’s record of being economic with the truth.

I see here many hostile comments about the trend of the EU becoming a country.
As a member of the EU I do not think that as a bad outcome, as I am sure US citizens do not consider it a bad thing they are 50 or so states in one country.
There is Aesop’s fable with the father and seven sons and the sticks demonstration:the bundle cannot be broken, individual sticks can.
There will be always regions with special characteristics, and always some people will be calling for independence, remembering old times when tiny kingdoms existed. “Independent Crete”, for example as far as Greece is concerned. Crete has not done badly within the larger political entity of Greece, though. It will be the same with countries within the EU, as long as together with the political union we develop a robust constitution to support individual freedoms.
Europe has a common history, a lot of interchange of populations has been homogenizing the brew and if nothing stupid is done, like harakiri about nonexistent AGW, the EU will be prosperous and as successful as the US has been.
The two world wars were fought over who would have the upper hand and be the overlord, not about a democratic for individual citizens union. As long as the citizens have a voice equal in all the region then why will it not be as much a democracy as the democracy of the US?

Anna V.
” a democratic for individual citizens union.”
What planet are you on? There’s nothing Democratic about this Union. Look at how EU laws are made.
“Proposals for legislative acts – regulations, directives and decisions – are normally prepared by the Commission department responsible for the dossier, which consults all the other departments whose work is related as well as the national authorities, interested parties and other stakeholders in the EU countries. At the end of the process, the proposal is formally adopted by the college of commissioners.
The actual decision-making procedure by which the legal act is adopted depends on the Treaty rules governing the area of activity concerned. In most cases, the co-decision procedure is used. This means that the formal proposal is scrutinised by the European Parliament and the Council of Ministers, who are the EU’s joint legislators. In some cases, the European Economic and Social Committee and the Committee of the Regions are consulted during the process. During the co-decision procedure, Parliament and the Council will subject the proposal to one, two or three readings, during which the Commission will act as mediator and ensure that the European interest remains central, until the act is adopted.
Once the act has been adopted by the EU legislator, it is transposed into national law in all the EU countries (if it is a directive – regulations and decisions apply directly without any need for further national legislation) and applied by the Commission and the EU countries”
http://ec.europa.eu/atwork/basicfacts/index_en.htm#leg
So, anything wanted in law, is prepared by Eurocrats (Unelected), passed onto a committee (Selected members) then presented as a fait accomplie (spelling?) to the “Parliament”.
It’s then passed over to member countries, who’s own elected parliaments can’t do anything about it.
Saw this bit did you?
“the Commission will act as mediator and ensure that the European interest remains central, until the act is adopted.”
Anything about democracy there? No.
The EU was foistered onto the British public as being the European Economic Community, we were told it was all about free trade. Great we think, sounds good to us, we’ll vote for that.
The French quickly stick in the Common Fisheries bit, but our then Prime Minister Edward Heath quietly accepts that. A policy that has lead to the collapse of both the UK’s fishing industry and the fish stocks in the seas surrounding us.
It then becomes the European Community, the the European Union.
Remember any of us having a vote on those changes?
Read this article.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/5983723/EU_leaders_attack_transparency_as_undemocratic/
Note this paragraph.
“As Nigel sat down, the irritating little socialist leader Martin Schulz, who recently complained that supporters of a referendum resembled Nazis, leapt to his feet. It was scandalous, he said, that the transcript had been published. Such meetings were traditionally secret. In disclosing what had been said, the Czech Republic had not behaved like a democracy.”
Look at this.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/3677071/Britains_most_Europhile_newspaper/
” Martin Schulz, leader of the Party of European Socialists, said that pro-referendum MEPs made him think of Adolf Hitler; and Graham Watson, leader of the Liberals, said that their behaviour recalled “that of the Communists in the Russian Diet and the National Socialists in the German Reichstag”. ”
So, those who want a referendum, so everyone entitled to vote in a country can have their say, are Nazis or a Communist rubber stamp?
And this?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/3676851/Fined_for_being_Eurosceptics/
Euro MPs fined for demanding a referendum.
Lubos Motl is a Czech, his country spent 8 years under Nazi rule, then nearly 50 under Communist rule. I think he might know about being ruled by undemocratic regimes.
And as for using the word “robust” here, you should know better than that. We prety well know what “robust” means!

anna–
I realise that things look differently from where you are but here is a Euro-sceptic’s point of view.
The EU’s accounts have not been signed off for 14 years (possibly 15); yet we in Britain contribute 16 BILLION POUNDS+ to this organisation every year. And its finances are only one symptom of its disfunctional nature. It’s anti-capitalist, anti-nation state and anti-democratic.
No one has ever asked me if I wanted to take part under the current rules yet my money is taken to pay for it. And it would conspire to ruin my country financially (as was threatened to Ireland and no doubt the Czech Republic) if we had the gall to leave.
In fact, it is the latest in the long, long line of attempts at pan-European dictatorship and is in no way comparable to the dynamic constitution and system of government in America which was set up by inspired geniuses.
Yet it won’t defend itself, preferring meaningless platitudes about peacekeeping; possibly because even it doesn’t know what it stands for, other than self-perpetuation. It reminds me of nothing more than late medieval Byzantium – rich, flabby, complacent and heading for a terrible fall. Fall it will, and the blast zone when it goes down will be enormous.