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I’m just getting a static Community Channel screen.
Nice video. It says: “For more information, contact the Senate Recording Studio at 4-4977”.
Maybe they pulled the plug??
Took an extended recess??
None of our business??
The issue (science) is settled??
Put on indefininate hold??
REPLY: Lunch
I sure hope it was a carbon neutral lunch.
If a family of four exchanged their SUV for four bicycles, they would actually produce more CO2 per mile by cycling than they did when traveling in a modern sports utility vehicle.
For a comprehensive examination into how CO2 does NOT increase temperature get, CO2 The Debate Is Not Over, as a free .pdf download here
[snip – self promotion ]
While they’re out to lunch, here’s an interesting list to read: click
[They take long lunches.]
Sunfighter,
Don’t give them the credit by using their terminology. I hope they had the biggest juiciest steak cut from a black angus cow, raised on genetically modified corn and alfalfa. If not for today’s farming practices and advances in genetic engineering, herbicides and pesticides, the world would starve. Oh wait, that’s what they want to happen. There are too many people already according to the science Czar.
Despite the very poor sound I’ve just finished listening to two absolute morons who are clearly on the very wrong side of the equation and were complimenting the Kerry Boxter Bill.
Well we already know that their Utopia of a beatiful green fossil fuel free world in reality means armageddon for the American Middle Class and death by starvation for the Third World.
How long are the Americans going to take this.
It won’t be long before a choice has to be made.
The choice between Obama or the United States.
I
Dr. Howard C. Hayden, Professor Emeritus of Physics, UConn nails it and bats it out of the park:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/041453.html
AGW is now a zombie. Somebody get a wooden stake.
A funny clip of Senator Inhofe during yesterday’s hearings, in which Inhofe congratulates Senator Barbara Boxer for using the term Global Warming instead of Climate Change:
I watched for about 1.5 minutes and got bored.
“I FEAR FOR MY COUNTRY”!!!
These “IGNORANT” US Politications are leading us down the road to “WORLD SOCIALISM”!!!!!
May sanity prevail and save us all!!!
I’m hearing too much talk about business and not enough about if manmade global warming from carbon is even happening.
Whatever.
20 million jobs. blub… blub… blub.
Green Jobs … China has already beat us to it on the solar, and they want our ball-bearing technology and other key stuff to out-compete us.
Boxer was clueless, wondering where the 20 million jobs figure came from.
We’ll send a signal, said the other. Surely they will hear us now after 30 years of blowing us off.
At least Inhofe got it. 9 years ago the natural warming cycle ended.
Unfortunately for the future of our children, the hot air problem came not from C02 emissions, it comes from the Agenda to pawn America to the lowest bidder.
Why waste time talking science to politicians scientifically illiterate? That’s like if I talked to my kids about quantum physics and relativity… I certainly won’t be able to keep their attention for very long.
Because of the above, it is as clear as water (or as the atmosphere containing 350 ppm of CO2), that this is not about science but all to do with money… money from the tax payers to their corporate friends.
They are a pack of thieves.
I say hang them all.
Seems to have just finished up. Bit of back and forth between Vonovich and Boxer over EPA report, earlier. Apparently the one for Waxman Markey isn’t even done yet
“”” Sophistry in politics (10:41:26) :
If a family of four exchanged their SUV for four bicycles, they would actually produce more CO2 per mile by cycling than they did when traveling in a modern sports utility vehicle. “””
I’d have a hard time believing that, SIP, my cycling friends say bicycles are just too efficient to be good exercise. One friend who bikes says if he ever swings his leg over the bar, and sits on his bike; he will not get off till he has gone 50 miles.
The four folks would be exhaling CO2 in either case; and the total horsepower for the SUV is way higher than that required to ride four bikes. I’m a lousy biker at my age, and I can do 10 mph without breaking a sweat.
But I’m sure you have some peer reviewed paper to support your contention.
Now in silicon valley we have a lot of people who are more used to bicycles of either the two in line, or the two side by side variety; and as it turns out they drive their SUVs the same way they ride those bikes.
I hope people understand that Senator Inhofe is about all that is standing in the way of the demise of the United States of America, under these politicians who are borderline criminally insane.
If you had anything to do with electing any of these Marxist Communists; then you are equally culpable; and history will judge you harshly.
These people get paid to talk. Whether they actually SAY anything or not is irrelevant to them. Not irrelevant to the People.
I’m waiting for the Citizens of the USA to actually SAY something. So far all I hear is talk ( with a few notable exceptions that get drowned out ).
I just finished listening to the stream. I have several observations:
1. The whole economic impact assessment of Tax and Trade is based on incomplete EPA models which Boxter asserts is reality despite differing analysis from industry representatives who are looking at real numbers. Small business refineries estimate a cost of over $100M with Tax and Trade out of a revenue stream of $35M. Boxter insists Tax and Trade will minimize the impact and, while the the small business presentation was good, the conclusion is wrong.
2. Environmentalists were successful in preventing the construction of newer more efficient and more environmentally friendly coal fire plants capable of adapting to carbon sequestration when the technology comes along in one or two decades. This forced the energy industry to keep the old, less efficient, and non-adaptable plants on line. I didn’t miss the accusations that the coal energy industry continues to abuse its use of older and dirtier energy production.
3. China has been in negotiations with Pennsylvania to build newer energy efficient coal fired plants in the U.S. Boxter says we can’t keep going down this road.
4. Sequestration is one to two decades away, natural gas production with current delivery systems is incapable of supplying a quick transition away from coal, environmentalists were successful in halting expansion of coal, nuclear power is a dead end. When asked where the energy is going to come from to serve the base load during the transition to renewables, the answer followed the line of American ingenuity will solve the problem and Tax and Trade will force it to happen.
What I got from the whole committee meeting was “don’t tell us there are problems, don’t speak of job losses, don’t suggest renewable energy can’t fill the gap, don’t use economic downturn as an excuse, and don’t point to failure of other countries to achieve goals with their own versions of tax and trade. Our models took all of that into consideration and predict plenty of energy, lower energy costs, more jobs, and an electric car in every garage.”
Yea right!
Thought this was interesting. It is VERY signficant and it feeds back into the post on record cold temps. Dallas is at the edge of the nose of cold temps in OK. We’ve had several major “extratropical cyclones” the last few weeks as well.
FOR DALLAS/FORT WORTH…OCTOBER 2009 WILL SET THE RECORD FOR THE
LEAST AMOUNT OF SUNSHINE IN OCTOBER. WITH ONLY 2 DAYS REMAINING
IN THE MONTH…THE RECORD IS ALREADY ASSURED.
DALLAS/FORT WORTH – FEWEST SUNSHINE MINUTES IN OCTOBER
1 7647 2009* (THROUGH 4 PM OCTOBER 29)
2 9302 1984
3 9587 1981
4 9621 2002
5 10340 1994
I quoted the whole thing below. I think this deserves its own post.
.CLIMATE…
OCTOBER 2009 WILL BE AMONG THE COOLEST AND WETTEST ON RECORD FOR
BOTH DFW AND WACO. WACO REGIONAL AIRPORT NEEDS LESS THAN AN INCH
OF RAIN TO BECOME THE WETTEST OCTOBER EVER…BUT THE CHANCES FOR
HEAVY RAIN FRIDAY ARE NOT PROMISING. DFW AIRPORT HAS HAD 19 RAIN
DAYS SO FAR THIS MONTH (INCLUDING TRACES). THE OCTOBER RECORD OF
20 FROM 1984 MAY BE TIED ON FRIDAY.
FOR DALLAS/FORT WORTH…OCTOBER 2009 WILL SET THE RECORD FOR THE
LEAST AMOUNT OF SUNSHINE IN OCTOBER. WITH ONLY 2 DAYS REMAINING
IN THE MONTH…THE RECORD IS ALREADY ASSURED.
DALLAS/FORT WORTH – FEWEST SUNSHINE MINUTES IN OCTOBER
1 7647 2009* (THROUGH 4 PM OCTOBER 29)
2 9302 1984
3 9587 1981
4 9621 2002
5 10340 1994
Goreacle wants to squeeze this scary treat in before the bears are gonzo. Always listen to Goreacle; it’s OT?
Note this is filed by MSM under “Weird News”.
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” Polar bear patrol escorts Hudson Bay trick-or-treaters
By Chinta Puxley, THE CANADIAN PRESS
CHURCHILL, Man. – Most trick-or-treaters are well-versed in Halloween safety: travel in groups, wear colourful clothing and only stop at brightly lit homes.
The drill is slightly different, however, for kids in a remote Manitoba town on Hudson Bay.
Youngsters in Churchill are warned not to dress in furry white costumes, to steer clear of baited traps stuffed with seal meat and to listen for the tell-tale sound of fireworks.
That’s because these candy-seekers have more to worry about than ghosts and goblins. They need to avoid a different kind of predator on Halloween – the polar bear.
In Churchill – known as the polar bear capital of the world – Halloween falls smack in the middle of the busiest time for the iconic mammals. The bears are restlessly wandering around as they wait for cooler temperatures so they can head out onto the frozen winter ice.
Add to that streets crawling with about 300 trick-or-treaters and their tasty bags of treats. The combination could be deadly. ” (more)
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2009/10/29/11568001-cp.html
The Obama administration says it will follow the science. Unfortunately the “science” they are following is past its “use before” date.
The models have changed little in the 30 years since they were built and the assumptions have long since been shown to be faulty. But the politicians spent a lot of public money on the models and can’t bring themselves to admit they are crap. The modelers know the models are crap and won’t admit it because that means the end of the gravy train and the engine has been stoked to full steam.