During a Wednesday morning interview with statewide radio talk show host Aaron Flint on “Voices of Montana,” Dr. Steve Running said any climate change solution needs to involve all nations.
“We have to have all the major nations in agreement on future progress,” said Running.
Running is a co-author of the Nobel Prize winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and founder of the Climate Change Studies program at the University of Montana.
He added, “If the US passed a cap and trade and other countries did not, it wouldn’t work. It would ruin the US economy and it wouldn’t save the climate either. So this is a global issue, the global climate statistics are global in nature, global carbon emissions are global in nature, and we really have to have an international consensus of what to do. That is going to stretch our international diplomacy to its limit, there’s no doubt about that.”
Nonetheless, Running called on the United States to show leadership on the issue of addressing climate change, saying other countries will follow suit.
“Voices of Montana” is a Northern News Network talk show that airs statewide on more than a dozen radio stations each weekday morning.
CLICK TO LISTEN: Dr. Running on Cap and Trade legislation
“…the global climate statistics are global in nature, global carbon emissions are global in nature…”
I guess he earned his Ph.D. from the department of redundancy department. 🙂
Is that a sheepskin vest Dr. Running is wearing?
Burch seymour
” But you expect industrial giants-who plan in terms of decades, invest in terms of generations and undertake ninety-nine-year contracts-to continue to function and produce, not knowing what random caprice in the skull of what random official will descend upon them at what moment to demolish the whole of their effort.”
And we are seeing the effects of uncertainty now. EON have put on hold their plan for a new coal fired power plant in Kent. BP pulled out of the London array windfarm project. Business can plan because they don’t know what that the rules that apply today will be the same tomorrow. Car producers don’t know what regulations will be foisted on them in the next round of horse trading: will it be a particular co2 emission target, will there be a subsidy for electric or hybrid? And it is all because policy makers are running around like headless chickens, throwing together one ill conceived plan after another.
@Tim McHenry
As an example of how well communist nations adhere to international treaties look no further than how the Soviet Union stuck to the International Convention for the Regulation of Whaling.
Once the deal was signed the Soviet whaling fleet proceeded to kill every single whale they could find and then lied about it.
A couple hundred years ago, when the global temperatures were a little cooler, we had the Age of Reason. Today, we are immersed in the Age of Stupid Idealism and Utopian Dreams. We yern for world peace, global cooperation, the end of poverty and hunger; and we follow any pied piper who says he/she knows the way. It’s probably just a temperature thing. Right? Or the water? Do you think it might be something in the water?
It should be kept in mind that the U.S. Senate’s 95 – 0 vote against Kyoto was based on the objection that the rules would not apply equally to every country.
If the Senate were to vote for a treaty or any other agreement that gives other countries a free pass to pollute, while hobbling the ultra-clean U.S., then the Senate would be representing the citizens of those other countries over the citizens of the U.S.
They should hear from us: click.
Ask them: who do they represent?
JamesInEH (09:33:47) :
Anthony failed to mention what Professor Running thinks about the current state of surface stations in the U.S. He states that the problem of bad stations was identified 20 years ago and has been fixed.
Are you sure he didn’t say “and the fix is in”?
How is it that the proponents of cap and trade completely ignore he fact that emission control schemes for co2 have failed across the board ? Not only have they plunged much of the EU into economic turmoil – which has been exacerbated by the current crisis – but co2 emissions have actually increased over the last decade . It is mindless .
The climate models predicted that Colorado ski seasons would get shorter and there would be less snow. Instead they have gotten longer with record snow. I have 18 inches out my window and it is 27 degrees. This has been the coldest October on record.
The models demonstrably don’t work, so why are climatologists still paying attention to them?
rbateman (09:52:21) :
Yeah, what’s the big deal, anyway?
This is what : Message from China to US… “What you worried about, What Me Worry?”. You have plenty of Territory to trade with China for more cheap goods and loans.
Yes, we do.
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Gary Hladik (11:00:57) :
“…the global climate statistics are global in nature, global carbon emissions are global in nature…”
I guess he earned his Ph.D. from the department of redundancy department.
VFF
Nonetheless, Running called on the United States to show leadership on the issue of addressing climate change, saying other countries will follow suit.
So all countries should ruin their economy without “saving climate”?
This is funny.
Saving private Ryan was better.
Don S. (11:03:54) :
Is that a sheepskin vest Dr. Running is wearing?
LOL, this was very thoughtful 😀
Running’s formal background is in remote sensing. Any climate-related “knowledge” he has concerning climate science rubbed off on him from his association with the others on the Nobel team. He has, I think, been associated with the U. of Montana since his graduate school days.
jlc (12:06:04) :
Subtle. Like a kick to the head. 😉
I’m sure that as others have said, Dr. Runner is a nice guy. However, it is small comfort when having ones throat cut to know the guy doing it is a nice guy doing it for the right reasons.
DaveE.
“‘We have to have all the major nations in agreement on future progress,” said Running.”
AH yes, the old “it’ll work if we all do it together” trick. Just goes to show the statist view that the only good misery is shared misery.
Oops.
Sorry, Dr. Running.
DaveE.
There is something very odd about the whole “global warming/climate change” issue. Since when have our political elites ever been far sighted about anything? They claim to be worried about future climate, and they encourage huge changes in our economic system (mostly tax increases) now to prevent theoretical cataclysm later. Meanwhile, these same politicians blithely spend trillions of taxpayer dollars on “stimulus” that is totally focused on the short-term and probably toxic long-term. I smell a rat. I think the real reason these politicos love the climate change issue is because it gives them cover to do what they love to do anyway: raise taxes and increase government control over our lives. This could also explain why liberals are much more likely than conservatives to think “global warming” is a problem we must solve.
“That is going to stretch our international diplomacy to its limit, there’s no doubt about that.”
Stretching international diplomacy to its limit will not be sensible. In the interest of the sustainable defense of civilization, a major [balanced & serene, not radical] rethink is in order; a lot is at stake, such as the environment [which is not going to be best-protected if an era of instability arises].
Inhofe Responds to Kerry on Senate Floor
It’s a claptrap framework for global socialism … I say they prove man made global warming is real. And furthermore, how much will be changed with trillions in new taxes.
Anybody know how it’s actually possible to measure global temperature?
Funny I thought the economy had already tanked and was still on the way down. Does he mean it might affect the recovery, or won’t he notice the real economy until he’s put out of a job too?
Running is one of those responsible for showing us the satellite obs that the planet is actually greening, which is excellent work and certainly something I’d never have guessed from all the current academic hand-wringing about the Amazon. I wonder why he didn’t point this out to the rest of the IPCC who still seem to think that deforestation is responsible for 20% of the CO2 buildup. Based on models of course…. It’s actually quite funny to hear Stiglitz’s deforestation group writing about the need to set up a satellite system to observe the increasing deforestation when in fact Running has done that already and it shows net natural REforestation. Well, funny and sad at the same time.
Re: rbateman (10:12:06);
rbateman, great post!
“”” tarpon (13:33:35) :
It’s a claptrap framework for global socialism … I say they prove man made global warming is real. And furthermore, how much will be changed with trillions in new taxes.
Anybody know how it’s actually possible to measure global temperature? “””
Well it’s very simple and any 8th grade science student can tell you how to do it. It must be easy because Gaia does it all the time.
Using the MKS system of Units; you place a thermometer in the middle of each 1 x 1 metre cell of the earth’s surface, and you read all of them (simultaneously) once per second for a year which is about pi x 10^7 seconds. Then you simply add up all of those temperature readings; divied by the number of seconds in a year (pi x 10^7) and divide by the surface area of the earth; and the result is the mean global temperature averaged over a full earth orbit of the sun. What could be easier than that.
But Gaia is much more thorough than that crude method. She has a thermometer in each and every single molecule in the whole planet; nad she reads them so fast it would make your head spin.
But that way; Gaia gets the correct mean global temperature always.
So how many thermometers does Hansen have and does he really read each of them twice a day. Seems like Anthony throws some doubt on that score.
But the more important question Tarpon, is what the blazes are you going to do with the information once you have it.
Can you figure out which way the wind is blowing; is it a good time to go sailing; how about soaring in a glider; will tonight’s Newdelphia BBseries game be rained out; shopuld I invest in Potato futures ?
Well if you can’t do any of those things who cares what the earth’s mean temperature is. Well we know that the mean temperature of the whole earth will fry your brains; so maybe we should restrict the question to some portion of the whole planet.
Does anybody know what portion of the planet they are trying to measure; it certainly isn’t the surface. How many of Anthony’s owl boxes are sitting on the ground reading the surface temperature ? is it 60 inches or two metres above the surface ? Izzere a thermometer on the top of Mt Everest ? If so is that a surface temperature or the not so lower troposphere ?
Who cares anyway ?
Invest in the housing market, oops it tanked. invest in the oil market, wow i’m paying a lot in gas. invest in cap and trade market, now i’m paying a lot for gas, fuel for my house and a tax on my personal carbon foot print. Hell may freeze over sooner than you think.
A nice thought, Snowbird ski resort has a nice new base of snow and more on the way. Very early for October and it cold as hell outside.
Smile and get those snowboards ready.