We’ve all seen John Kerry’s claims that global warming is now a “national security issue”. Kerry’s new TV commercial says: “Scientists and military experts agree: The next global hot spot won’t be a spot at all,” the TV ad warns, showing an image of the planet. “Global warming threatens our security.”
They don’t seem to think so in Australia.
AUSTRALIAN DEFENCE MINISTRY UNCONVINCED BY CLIMATE DATA
ABC News, 9 October 2009
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/10/09/2709035.htm?section=justin
By Margot O’Neill for Lateline
The science of climate change is too doubtful to dramatically change Australia’s national defence plans, according to a key adviser on the Australian Defence Force’s recent White Paper.
While the white paper acknowledges for the first time climate change is a potential security risk, it says large-scale strategic consequences of climate change are not likely to be felt before 2030.
A key adviser on the white paper, Professor Ross Babbage, says he is not convinced that climate change exists at all.
“The data on what’s really happening in climate change was looked at pretty closely and the main judgment reached was that it was pretty uncertain – it wasn’t clear exactly what was going on,” he said.
“When you look at that data, it really does suggest that there hasn’t been a major change in the last decade or so and certainly no major increase.
“So the sort of judgments that were required have to be fairly open at this stage.”
However Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has frequently put forward the opposite view, and other security analysts believe Defence should not be debating the basic science of global warming.
Anthony Bergin, from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, says the ADF’s judgement goes against most scientific conclusions.
“There was no supporting evidence presented in the Defence White Paper for the judgement that there would be no strategic impacts of climate change for 30 years,” he said.
“It seems to run counter to most of the scientific judgements that are now concluding that impact of climate change is indeed faster and more severe than previous estimates.”
Overseas preparations
In the US and the UK, security agencies and the military are providing resources to prepare for potential new climate conflicts over water, food and refugees as well as increasingly frequent natural disasters.
They are also moving to ensure defence equipment will function in more extreme weather conditions.
Sydney University’s Professor Alan Dupont says the CIA in the US had the right approach.
“They accepted the scientific forecasts of the IPCC as their starting point because they thought they were not qualified to contest the scientific issues. And I would have thought the same applied to our own defence department.”
At the internationally respected Royal United Services Institute in London, Dr Tobias Feakin, the director of national security says the Australian white paper is out of step.
“Climate change is already happening, so to press pause on considering it as a strategic issue, I think, could be a mistake,” he said.
“The time cycles for buying equipment rotate in about 20-year cycles so you need to begin to make the decisions now to purchase the kinds of equipment that you’ll need for climate change world.
“So to not actually acknowledge the kind of changes that we will be seeing then, I think will be quite short-sighted.”
‘Cautious approach’
Because of long lead times and high expense, Professor Babbage says Defence moves cautiously when it comes to adopting new planning scenarios.
“At this stage there isn’t really the case to fundamentally change the direction of the Defence Force as a consequence of what we are so far seeing in terms of climate change, given the uncertainties that we still see in the data sets.
Professor Babbage says Defence considered a variety of climate scenarios and judged Australia’s current defence capabilities and force structure would cope.
He points out that Prime Minister Rudd, as chairman of the National Security Council, signed off on the white paper’s conclusions.
Copyright 2009, ABC
EDITOR’S NOTE: The Australian Government’s Defence White Paper is available at <http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/docs/defence_white_paper_2009.pdf>
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That ‘there hasn’t been a major change in the last decade’ is marvelously persuasive. If only people would be allowed to see it.
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OT, but what’s up with the 404 error on the homepage?
So the military question relating to equipment seems to be
“What will we need in 20 years from now.”
Given that in the UK such forward planning always seems to be afflicted by wrong decisions, budgets and unplanned events – leaving the forces tasked with security scattered around the world with kit not suitable for the purpose – I think the report seems to make a lot of sense. Change nothing.
Moreover since some others on the warmist side seem to be leaning to the opinion that ‘warming’ may slow down for 20 years and hen return with a bang (allegedly) even a warmist agenda would suggest that there is no immediate need to do much at all. The start of any changes that MIGHT affect the chouice of equipment (for example) will be at or beyond the 20 years during which things may stand still. So whichever way you look at it now is not the time to be making important decisions for plans with at least 20 years of lead time to them.
With the rtate of technology change (assuming that continues in a fiscally challenged green economy post current crisis) much of what is required would likely be very out of date if ordered now. The CO2 waste would be extremely high.
Thank god for the Aussies!!
In 1961, in his farewell address to the nation, President Eisenhower warned us not only of the military-industrial complex, but also of federally funded research leading to a “scientific and technological elite” endangering the free university and intellectual curiosity where “domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present — and is gravely to be regarded.”
Because of the failure of leaders like John Kerry (and many, many others) to heed Eisenhower’s warnings, we now confront a military-industrial-scientific-technological monster. Where are the statesmen brave enough to confront it?
Quoting H.R. 2454: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 which passed the U.S. House of Representatives in June of ’09:
‘SEC. 701. FINDINGS AND PURPOSE.
‘(a) Findings- The Congress finds as follows:
‘(1) Global warming poses a significant threat to the national security, economy, public health and welfare, and environment of the United States, as well as of other nations.
Australian Military tend to be results focussed. Therefore it is no surprise in the great what if scenarios of military strategic thinking, you actually measure and asses things that can be measured or assessed.
Also Australian military capacity is pretty much all terrain focussed except arctic or antarctic, threats. We dont get many floating or drowning polar bears in our oceans, our biggest antarctic threat is enemy assault penguins and we can easily outrun them little freakers.
I learned in Viet Nam the Aussie’s were a tough – no nonsense bunch, usually fun to be with until some idiot said “Do I hear a british accent?” At that point I usually lied about my citizenship…I value my teeth.
You’ll figure it out, just be careful, big graves are easy to find.
Thanks for having our six in ‘Nam while doing a great job carrying on your own missions.
Mike Bentley
Are you implying that the Austrian Defense Force is a better source for analysis of this type than the US Pentagon?
Anyway, the ADF does not stack up well against the Australian Strategic Policy Institute on a policy issue such as this. ASPI was created by a hawkish and AGW skeptic Prime Minister. The executive director is an Army Major General and was commander of all Aussie land forces during the invasion. Bergman, who co-wrote the ASPI report on the issue was the director of the Australian Defense Studies Center. For intellectual capacity and objectivity this is much better than anything you will get out of the ADF.
The Aussi military will not have enough hot weather guns and ammo in 2020?
Last time I checked, nearly all military equipment operates at pretty much all temperatures EXCEPT 40 below zero. So unless the climate goes really cold in Australia, they should be pretty well equipped.
There is of course the remote possibility that this was actually a loyalty test. In which case the Aussi army has failed and all its officers must now resign or be fired.
Chris D. (17:57:08) :
The last time I looked, Congress:
a.) only passes a bill when they can pawn another piece of America at the Outsource Mall.
b) has not a clue as to what is real and what is imagined. The sitting majority imagine the Poles are melting and the oceans are rising. Odd, because they have not far to go to see if the Atlantic is lapping at the steps to Capital Hill.
The biggest threat to National Security lies in the ability of the Warmist Agenda to hoodwink the controlling part of Congress into shooting the US in the foot. It’s like this: Let’s save the Planet by driving the US into the Dark Ages. All those rapidly developing nations will see the Light once the US crawls under a rock and croaks.
This cannot sustain.. It simply can’t.
People are waking up and start to smell the coffee 🙂
If we pass 2012 without being reset, then i will stop searching for answers concerning if we are realy in a matrix or not…
Thats 2 years my friends.. then the maya calender stops or resets..
this might sound funny, but we are all energy and energy is everything is energy 🙂
Here is a story that goes into the details on how Copenhagen is designed to screw the successful democratic nations:
“So, although China might impose duties on any Canadian steel it imports, if it can show we have fallen short on CO2 reductions, Canada could not do the same to Chinese concrete imports. ”
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/10/09/kevin-libin-copenhagen-plan-could-wreck-global-economy.aspx
When I read stuff like this I start to froth in rage at the pathetic, sniviling excuse for a human being that is willing to screw their own country and fellow citizens by supporting such nonsense.
Yeah, entirely agree that we should all follow the UK and get rid of the RAF’s Red Arrows (for the Red Sparrows) and spend more on the real problems of the world:
“Robert Wood (17:36:59) :
Thank god for the Aussies!!”
Here in Aus, we’re beyond God’s help unfortunately. Most Aussies believe in AGW, that’s one reason KRudd747 got into power, and want “govn’t to do something” (And of course, the CPRS is a tax). KRudd747 needs to take something to Copenhagen to wave at the onlooking crowds of politicians to say “Look! We’re leading the war on CC.”.
Climate change as regards military planning is so bogus, at least as far as planning on hardware acquisition. Most equipment is hardened & designed to function in all climates (other than extreme cold). As long as it’s properly maintained, what works today will work in 2050 (or 2100). Sounds like someone’s spent too much time watching The Day After Tomorrow.
This sounds more like politics, in getting all the government team members playing off the same script.
As for climate generating new political hot-spots, they’ll happen where they happen for the usual reasons ~ religion, extending political power, imagined (or even real) political slights, etc. It’s only the AGW true believers who’ll find climate change lurking behind any of mankind’s (normally) silly conflicts.
God Bess the Aussies. And the rest of you can kiss my ass. I wouldn’t be alive today except for the Aussies in SVN. So, all of you who want to remain distant in your disapproval of the nitwits who advocate AGW, shove it. In Nam, we and the Aussies identified the enemy (In spite of the American Press (Walter). We fought that enemy until the diplomats told us it was OVER. Last time I ever listen to a diplomat. Where are my fallen comrades? Where are the survivors of the Vietnamese 23rd Wing at Bien Hoa? So, the United States surrendered 20,000,000 people to the kind attendance of the North Vietnamese. Anybody in Washingon today who would like to live in that Socialist Paradise? How about you, Mr. Reid, or you Ms Pelosi, or you, Mr S. sneaker senator? You guys all good with total screwing WE gave the South Vietnamese? I know that most of you were not in the legislature back then.Thank God. But you still have a responsibility to insure that your country meets its obligations.
HELLO, ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION?????
Lest anyone should misinterp my rather emo
Dam new computer. Can’t type anything wihout errors. PLS disregard my 19:51:30.
I used to take lots of oil company employees on field trips in Venezuela and Trinidad to look at rocks. Of them all – maybe about 500 in total? – I only remember one of their names and he was the only guy that really impressed me. I found out a couple of years ago that he was with John Kerry on the Swift boats in Vietnam…
It isn warm weather that causes displacement.It’s cold.30 Years War anyone? 100 years? Cold makes a very unpleasant reality.
As a tribute to me Aussie mates here’s my compatriot Eric Bogle. I give you ‘Waltzing Matilda’. For those lost at Gallipoli.
The blokes and sheilas I talk to all acknowledge that climate changes. They just don’t see any problem with that. But their views aren’t the ones that get floated in surveys.
Unfortunately we have a self serving prime minister who jumps onto any issue that he views as popular to promote his personality hence his parroting the mantra of global warming being the greatest threat mankind has ever faced.
In our system of democracy we used to have an Opposition party to review and challenge government policy. Unfortunately it is currently led by an insipid self promoter parroting the same line as the prime minister.
But the times they are a’changeing and the punters are starting to wake up to the scam, albeit slowly.
The ADF is ROTFLM*O at the IPCC.
I hope.
Now about those launch vehicles and missile defense. Let’s keep our Aussies around, we like them…
Did anyone notice any other mention of this in the Australian media ?