From DTN News: NAWG Reverses Policy on Climate Change

A statement Friday from Karl Scronce, National Association of Wheat Growers president and a wheat producer from Klamath Falls, Ore.:
“The NAWG Board of Directors met this morning via conference call and voted 26 to 2 to approve a new resolution regarding greenhouse gas regulation. The Board also voted 24 to zero to remove existing resolutions relating to greenhouse gas regulation and an agriculture cap-and-trade program.
“The new resolution reads:
“’NAWG is opposed to greenhouse gas legislation or regulation that has a negative impact on production agriculture. NAWG will strive for a net economic benefit to farmers, agriculture and food production. We believe neither greenhouse gas regulation nor legislation should take effect until the major carbon emitting countries of the world have agreed to regulate their own greenhouse gases in a like manner to ours. NAWG urges USDA to do a detailed economic analysis of any legislation or regulation before it becomes law. Furthermore, NAWG will oppose EPA regulation and will work to overturn the Supreme Court ruling.’
NAWG staff and grower-leaders plan to continue to work on this issue to achieve an outcome that the Board feels is in the best interest of our grower-members. “
Here is the official NAWG resolution statement at the NAGW website
h/t to WUWT reader “CuriousGeorge)
Re: Anna (12:18:15)
Interesting comments – but I suggest you reconsider the anthropocentric dirty 30s propaganda – that was a time of major change in the Earth system.
P Walker (14:42:02):
You are correct that after bison, cattle ranged the Great Plains for a time (relatively short, though), then the plains were torn up for wheat cultivation.
The Great Plains were actually the last areas of the US (and I think Canada) to be settled intensely by means of the Homestead Act. However, the Native Americans were deliberately driven off the land to make way for Homesteaders by several means, including massive elimination of the bison, a major source of their food supply. Bison are exquisitely suited for this habitat of extremes and were once an integral part of this formerly very biodiverse area (flora, fauna, and micro-fauna) – keeping the grass growth in check, returning vital nutrients to the land, dispersing the many varieties of seeds, and more).
European breeds of cattle were not suited for the Great Plains, which was hotter in the summer and colder in the winter, plus the region is subject to constant high winds. The cattle operations were generally unsuccessful in the long run, and those that remained when wheat was introduced were quickly eliminated.
The boom-and-bust fluctuation of wheat prices in the US was a major factor in the expansion of wheat cultivation in the last few decades of the 19th century through the first third of the 20th century. Key to this expansion was the introduction of a breed of Russian/German wheat that was relatively hardy in the Great Plains climate of extremes (the Russian thistle, otherwise known as the tumbleweed hitched along with the wheat seed and established itself, too). The strong-willed immigrants who brought the wheat were extremely resilient, too. Major fortunes were made and lost in the handful of interior states with massive cultivation of wheat, especially by “suitcase farmers” during the ‘boom years”, who would arrive on the train to plant the land, then leave, only to return at harvest-time. The transition from horse-drawn plows to tractors really accelerated the number of acres of wheat cultivation and increased yields, which rapidly dropped the bushel price due to supply and demand. Eventually, the only way to make money/stay afloat was to cultivate more acreage. Sound familiar?
But after a few decades of ripping up the sod (the new residents of this area were walled “sod-busters”), the problems with western wheat cultivation started accumulating, with increasing soil erosion, dust storms, continual drought, and so on, culminating in the massively destructive decade called the “dirty thirties” (but the devastation really started even before the 30s and even before the Stock Market fall in 1929). The human toll was paid not only in declining local, regional, and national economies, but in hellish living conditions (houses filled with soil dust, dying babies and children), poor health, increased mental anguish, and torn-apart families.
New Deal research into improved farming practices that reduced soil degradation and loss brought some relief eventually, as did the post-WWII practice of petrochemical fertilizers and pesticides, as well as deeper wells into the ancient underground aquifer. But truly, the tide of destruction was just slowed; it never really stopped.
A really excellent book on this subject is The Worst Hard Times, an historical account of that era in settlement and agriculture in the US. The research for that book is incredible, with truly moving accounts from interviews with survivors, heart-wrenching journal entries of people who lived through it, and records from the public statistics and various bureaus (weather, farm, and govt agencies). There are lessons for us in what happened, but so few have any idea. You know, the “staff of life” and all. ha! That sort of agriculture and intense reliance on monoculture ends in desertification on a massive scale the world over, and I fail to see how we will stop the destruction if we keep doing what we’ve been doing.
Jared Diamond’s Guns, Germs, and Steel is another good peek at the downside of grain crops.
“Anna, you have been drinking way too much kool-aid.”
Never touch the stuff. We are not well-adapted that much concentrated sugar. LOL 😉 Plus it tastes nasty.
I’m trying very hard not to drink any “Koolaid” anymore – “unlearning” all the stuff I was taught in my first few decades. And that includes the GW/CG koolaid.
Curiousgeorge (13:45:15) :
“Really good post. Really. I think we read many of the same books. Ever read any of Marvin Harris’ books(Cannibals and Kings, etc. ) ?”
Thanks very much. No, I don’t know that one, but I’ll look it up.
Here we go, Obama to sign bi lateral climate treaty with China in November!
http://www.sinolinx.com/frame/?url=http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/obama_china_climate_pact/2009/09/04/256394.html%3FFORM
If this is true, all those zealot negotiators stating they will jump the cliff if the others do, will tear their hair out of their heads.
Such a stupidity.
We are represented by amatures on every level.
Cap&Trade run by a Van jones?
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2009/09/04/dick-morris-van-jones-in-charge-of-cap-and-trade-bonanza/
Via Realclimate.com
Wikipedia states under plant nutrition:Carbon, Hydrogen and Oxygen
are essential for plants BUT are NOT considered plant nutrients. Gee
maybe wikipedia is wrong. Is it? Macronutrients are Nitrogen, Phosphorus,
Potassium, Calcium, Magnesium, Sulfur and Silicon. Micronutrients are
Chlorine, Iron, Boron, Manganese, Sodium, Zinc, Copper, Nickel and
Molybdenum. These are nutrients! Also note that under fertilizers CO2
is not even discussed until the global issues section and this is ONLY
in relation to AGW. Again CO2 fertilization is a misnomer.
CO2 is used by plants during photosynthesis to make sugars(glucose)
which may either be consumed in respiration or used as a RAW material
to produce other organic compounds needed for plant GROWTH and
development. Respiration is the process in which plants burn(metabolize)
sugar to yield energy for growth.
The verdict is clear:plants make their own food! And since CO2 is on the
input side it clearly is NOT a plant food. This makes ALL previous
arguments claiming CO2 is a plant food null and void. Lets illustrate
another way;sunlight + air + macro and micro nutrients = plant FOOD
+ oxygen. Glucose is the real plant food. Since all sugar requires carbon
(as well as starches and cellulose) it simply has to be present for the
plant to exist.
The skeptic side should not use the CO2 as plant food claim as it gives
bad optics and gives fuel to the alarmists.
CO2 is absolutely essential for plants and they freakin love the stuff.
Btw I am a hardcore skeptic so don’t paint me as an alarmist. I am only
interested in the truth of the matter and the truth is better than any
label any day of the year.
I was at an energy rally in Livonia Michigan this week against the Cap & Trade Bill. The president from either the Michigan Farmers Association or Dairy Farmers pointed out that vegetable, fruit and nut crops and trees are exempt from providing carbon credits in the bill. This organization is now against the bill in any form.
As acementhead put it eariler: this represents “a Narrow Semantic Quibble (in Philosophy circles)” …
Could it have been an otherwise slow ‘news day’ and a short, inciting post was ‘synthesized’ by a sock poppet nom de plume’d “RW“, not intended to have any resemblance to any person ficticiously living, and being stingingly concidental and in character nonetheless?
Naw …
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anna, you might look into the effects of beef protein on general population height, and consider that as opposed to the wheat theory.
Plant “food” vs. “nutrients” vs. “essentials” vs. whatever makes for a dull read and certainly does not flatten the “plant food” arguments (unless one is hung up on semantics, at the expense of common sense).
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Anna, you are seriously overestimating the human role in the dust bowl. Humans were a factor in the blowing soil, but they didn’t stop the rains, nor did they make them resume (via implemented US government policies) years later. Nonetheless, I admire your dedication to soil conservation.
I think that Anna is an anti-glutite. I have seen some of the books and claims against wheat and most grains in general. It seems that nowadays anyone can pick any topic and write a book and start a website and collect a following. Of course, most of them initiate it with gloom and doom and then offer (at a cost) to deliver you.
My best retort to all the gloomer’s is; why does our life expectancy keep going up?
acementhead (18:59:58) : Care to explain how paying landowners to NOT grow food increases food production?
It doesn’t. The purpose is to raise PRICES to the farmers by reducing aggregate supply. You pay some farmers not to grow so all farmers get more money. The historical problem in agricultural policy has always been over production leading to price collapse / bankruptcy leading to cyclical shortages. It’s an unstable oscillating system which is why it’s called a “price stabilization” program. Rather similar to the Texas Railroad Commission and oil price “stabilization” that lead to OPEC.
Rw’s statement is what I believe is called a Narrow Semantic Quibble in Philosophy circles(but I could be wrong).
No, it’s what is called a flat out blatant error. Mistake. Wrong.
Van Jones resigned. Now to get rid of the rest of them. Hansen, Sunstein, and related, & Pelosi, Reid, and eventually Obama.
gtrip (00:52:22) :
” why does our life expectancy keep going up?”
This is getting a bit off-topic, but life expectancy for industrial nations has risen in the 20th century due to improvements in hygiene, public sanitation, occupational safety, and medical developments. In fact we’ve become *very* good at keeping people alive who would previously have perished, especially in the critical stages of infancy and later old age. Most of the hazards and forces that previously influenced premature mortality are now quite removed from the lives of people in industrial cultures. The key seems to be keeping infants alive until the teenage years, then life expectancy is excellent.
Average life expectancy remained quite low from late paleolithic times into the neolithic age until around 1900 (rarely moving past 40 yoa). 15,000 years ago the weak and sick had absolutely no chance. If the perils of the natural world didn’t do them in, the tribe probably eliminated them to avoid risking the entire group’s survival.
Paul Vaughan (23:41:03) :
“Humans were a factor in the blowing soil, but they didn’t stop the rains, nor did they make them resume (via implemented US government policies) years later.”
I don’t think humans had anything to do with the rains. Humans removed the sod that held the soil, exposed the soil when they tilled, and when the drought came the soil dried out. When the storms came, there was nothing to hold the loose soil so it was picked up and carried away in massive dust storm clouds.
Additionally, human well drilling lowered the water table. The native grasses had much deeper roots than wheat did and could probably have survived the droughts (though without the bison ranging anymore, I don’t really know if that is the case).
Anna : I wasn’t trying to pick a fight , just a nit regarding bison . Oh , and having fun with the barley byproduct bit – cocktail hour was approaching at the time I commented . As far as the grain as food thing goes , I have nothing to say,except that nearly everything I’ve heard about nutrition over the last forty years has been disputed , debunked and forgotten in that same time frame . I say live as you like , die when you should .
Anna, you are wrong about soil erosion being the fault of exposed land due to tillage. Think of palouse soil. Any dig through palouse prone areas will show stratification of large and small deposits of windblown soil way before tilling was even the apple of someone’s eye. You give way too much weight to human influence on more than just a locally restricted area.
P Walker (10:01:08) :
Didn’t think you were picking a fight; no worries (while I hum that song from Oklahoma about why can’t the cowboy and the farmer be friends). At the time I didn’t get your barley beverage reference, but now that you mention cocktail hour I see clearly what you meant ;-). Completely in agreement.
Pamela Gray (10:10:10) :
“You give way too much weight to human influence on more than just a locally restricted area.”
Could be. I’m not a soil expert, though my entire childhood was permeated with my dad’s Rodale influence so I know the difference between soil and dirt ;-). In recent years I just keep running across soil degradation and soil fertility issues connected to monoculture in a really wide range of contemporary, historical, and prehistorical contexts. Clearly, there’s a lot more I can learn about soil.
>> Anna (12:18:15) :
There is ample evidence that wheat consumption wreaks havoc on human bodies. The damage is very obvious in the fossil and bone records, not to mention the stats kept by colonial physicians: shortened stature, rampant dental decay, and evidence of increases rates of chronic disease occurred whenever hunter-gatherers/non-grain eaters took to eating Western foods like wheat flour. <<
The dental decay part of your diatribe doesn’t ring true. I read an archeological report some time back about a new cash of bodies recovered from either Pompeii or Herculaneum. (It was probably Herculaneum as the dig was near the water’s edge and Pompeii is inland.) I remember a comment about the teeth. They were in excellent condition, because the Roman diet was mostly grain.
Jim
Jim Masterson (10:53:47) :
“I remember a comment about the teeth. They were in excellent condition, because the Roman diet was mostly grain.”
What evidence was cited that the wheat grain was the primary factor in the excellent condition of the teeth? The Romans were quite practiced in the field of dentistry, even before they had doctors. Ancient Roman dental tools are not much different than many of the tools used by dentists today. To me that suggests Romans might have had a lot of dental problems overall though of course there may be exceptions.
I suggest a wider review of dental evidence from a variety of widespread populations in past eras (paleolithic and neolithic), not just one cache of remains. Dental conditions reveal a quite a bit about overall health and illness, including nutrition status, dominance of plant or ruminant animal foods in the diet, infectious and chronic disease, etc.
Anna : Quite right about monoculture , regardless of the crop .
Anna –
“There is ample evidence that wheat consumption wreaks havoc on human bodies.” Citations from the SCIENTIFIC literature, please. Sure, some people have allergies to gluten, some people have lactose intolerance, some people lack alcohol dehydrogenase, some people have allergies to almost anything. A wheat based diet deficient in other nutrients, OK, but wheat as a poison, I ain’t buyin’ (excess sugar and fat consumption, yes.) Sugar and lack of dental hygiene lead to tooth and gum disease. A diet contaminated with sand and other abrasives causes earlier dental wear (well documented in people and range cattle.) There’s a reason that wheat is called the staff of life. Without it there would be widespread malnutrition, indeed, famine. Same for rice, barley and other grains. That’s not to say that poor agricultural practices don’t lead to soil erosion and water problems. They do. Any agriculture leads to some.
>> Anna (11:33:54) :
What evidence was cited that the wheat grain was the primary factor in the excellent condition of the teeth? <<
I’m not an archeologist, nor do I play one on TV. You’ll have to ask an expert on Roman Archeology. However, the comment in the paper implied that most Roman remains show the same teeth characteristic, and the grain diet was the reason.
>> The Romans were quite practiced in the field of dentistry, even before they had doctors. Ancient Roman dental tools are not much different than many of the tools used by dentists today. To me that suggests Romans might have had a lot of dental problems overall though of course there may be exceptions. <<
The lack of dental repair would indicate healthy teeth to begin with. I think you’re trying to reach on this point.
>> Dental conditions reveal a quite a bit about overall health and illness, including nutrition status, dominance of plant or ruminant animal foods in the diet, infectious and chronic disease, etc. <<
So I’ve been told.
Jim