How’d ya like the news in the paper, Mr. Potter? You just can’t keep those deniers down.
From the UK Telegraph, yet another prominent NASA figure says “no” to AGW.
Buzz, the man in the photo above, quoted in the interview:
“I think the climate has been changing for billions of years,” he said.
“If it’s warming now, it may cool off later. I’m not in favour of just taking short-term isolated situations and depleting our resources to keep our climate just the way it is today.
“I’m not necessarily of the school that we are causing it all, I think the world is causing it.”
Yes folks, NASA’s second man on the moon, Colonel and now Dr. Buzz Aldrin is an AGW skeptic. So is fellow astronaut Dr. Harrison Schmitt, NASA’s only geologist to walk the moon.
The story in the UK Telegraph is here.
Please note the date they have of July 20th, 1960 is hilariously wrong. NASA hadn’t even made a suborbital fight yet. Freedom 7 and Alan Shepard was the first to do that on May 5th, 1961.
July 20th, 1969 is the day I’ll always remember for Buzz’s achievement, even if the Telegraph can’t.
BTW, the top photo and top line is a well known scene from, “It’s a Wonderful Life”
h/t to Tom Nelson
UPDATE: Note to Joe Romm; if you happen to run into Buzz at a conference, best that you don’t call him a “denier” to his face.
Here’s video of Buzz landing the punch heard round the world.
Bart Sibrel is the recipient.
Pete W (21:04:48) :
“This tells me (a) he understands the climate is changing, which is a good thing, and (b) he doesn’t care to do anything about it even if he could do something about it, which I think is bad.”
Hi Pete,
The problem with taking a moral view on our (supposed) “bad” influence on the planet is that there is no logical basis for any kind of “ethical” climate behaviour. It’s all circular reasoning.
The flora and fauna of this world are engaged in their own geo-engineering program by sequestering CO2 from the atmosphere and storing the carbon away from useful access below the ground.
To an independent observer it might even appear the we are re-righting a natural balance by returning the carbon to the atmosphere where it initially came from!
Of course, by attempting to “restore the balance” by carbon neutral policies or artificial sequestration we are not really attempting to restore an equilibrium state, we are attempting to freeze a cycle that has evolved naturally for nothing other than our own selfish needs. Freezing a cycle, in my opinion, is both potentially dangerous, and certainly unethical in anything other than a human-centric perspective.
Far better, again in my opinion, to allow things to progress naturally. After all, as long as we don’t kill all the plant life on the planet, the CO2 will eventually be scrubbed away again. Who knows, maybe in a few million years, if we are still around, we will begin burning fossil fuels all over because we realise it wasn’t such a bad idea first time around!!
Good, well deserved, punch. Hopefully that Bart idiot got a bloody nose, black eye or lost tooth from it.
It amazes me we’ve got so many fresh-mouthed disinformed brats with chips on their shoulders running around. Once they ruin the country, do you think they’ll wake up and realise what dicks they’ve been?
You know, we never had AGW deniers or believers until we went to the moon. Since then, everyone is either an AGW alarmist or an AGW denier. I blame astronauts.
He’s of swedish heritage, makes me proud, second only to Ingemar Johansson!
OT, Happy Fourth every one, The Fireworks show just ended on Kadena Airforce base Okinawa Japan and it was spectacular.
Håkan B,
I had forgotten about Ingemar Johansson! He was a great fighter, thanks for the memory. [Mrs. Smokey is a pure Swede. I can always find her in a crowd by looking for the bright yellow hair.]
News flash. The punch was staged. The sound was added and he missed. You’all believe the punch was real, but it wasn’t. I am sure the bloke that was punched would deny it.
I enjoy reality therapy.
REPLY: Well Bart Sibrel is a filmmaker, that he had to edit in sound just goes to show how dishonest he is. – Anthony
Well, of course astronauts don’t want to accept the inconvenient truth that space flight is a huge waste of resources and has a huge environmental footprint….
The only scientists I’m willing to believe are the ones that are completely free from association with any oil or tech company, are not being paid to produce any results, and have no vested interests in furthering their own careers, or in gaining any fame or attention. As Exxon has shown, scientists can be corrupted, so we must never listen to any scientists that is receiving any funding.
Too bad that guy was not Al Gore, I think he needs the same.
Thanks Darell Phillips, for that fascinating link to Buzz “Hip-hop” Aldrin: click
What a great guy! Very likable [unless you’re Bart what’s-his-name]. Even my opinion of Snoop Dogg has improved.
[In James Michener’s great novel Space, Michener explains why astronauts tended to be ±5’8″. Due to the constraints of the cockpit size in fighter jets, fighter pilots weren’t tall, and astronauts were selected primarily from the fighter pilot pool. Mr Bart, being a foot taller than Aldrin, probably figured he could get away with calling him a ‘liar,’ etc. …surprise, Bart!]
It was a full moon. My Mother took me outside and told me to look up and that we’d put men on it. I’ll never forget. Thanks Mom.
Looked like “fighting words” to me. They should use that film in law school as an example of how to get legally decked. Well done Buzz!
Richard Heg said:
Saying global warming is not man made is like saying the moon landings were faked.
Actually, saying climate is not driven by natural forces such as changes in the ocean and sun is like saying the moon landings never happened. The belief in manmade climate change is a lot like the belief in bigfoot, or the Loch Ness monster. Lots of passion, and cherry-picked “proof”, but little in the way of scientific evidence.
STEFAN, I think you should see only doctors who have had no training.
Buzz Aldrin gave a perfect demonstration how to handle hard headed people who doubt the real facts.
Just hit them on the head for a brain reset.
I watched all the life transmissions of the Apollo flights and spend many nights behind the television set.
Those were the times.
” Stefan (06:23:35) :
Well, of course astronauts don’t want to accept the inconvenient truth that space flight is a huge waste of resources and has a huge environmental footprint….
The only scientists I’m willing to believe are the ones that are completely free from association with any oil or tech company, are not being paid to produce any results, and have no vested interests in furthering their own careers, or in gaining any fame or attention. As Exxon has shown, scientists can be corrupted, so we must never listen to any scientists that is receiving any funding.”
Good luck with that. That creature doesn’t exist.
I wonder what Woody and Mr Potato Head think of all this global warming stuff.
Oh wrong Buzz.
Do not mess with little old guys-or ladies for that matter- you may be in for a very nasty surprise:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6613225.ece
Buzz Aldrin is one of my Heroes. Oh in reference to the above link.
Don’t wear Jewelry on your face…
To Pete W.
You stated – “Very complex stuff” in reference to natural forces effecting climate. Since you appear to be a strong believer in AGW I am very surprised you would dare make that comment. Recognizing that weather and climate is complex is really the foundation belief of AGW deniers. Once you start going down that road it becomes very bumpy and unpredictable and might just cause you to fall off the AGW wagon. I though all natural forces were basically irrelevant to climate, and it was just a simple matter of Man causing CO2, which causes global warming. Case closed and no point in investigating further. Do I detect a subtle shift?
It is strikingly ironic that the picture from It’s A Wonderful Life is from a scene right before Potter steals the $8000 deposit and tries to frame the Baileys for embezzlement.
As a Skeptic/Denier AGW, I don’t think we should ever have bad feelings towards the warmistas ie Gavin Schimdt J Hansen, Tamino etc. they actually probably believe they are doing something good.. eventually believe it or not they will concede because they are good people.. There motives anyways are good.
I predict the phrase at RealClimate will be, “Buzz Aldrin is just an astronaut.”
It is becoming clearer and clearer that the global warming folks are putting both hands over their ears and chanting “bahbuhbahbuh” to avoid hearing. I tried to post a comment at “Tamino’s Open Mind” (which isn’t) that simply said:
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You can convince me. Just answer:
http://thereisnoevidence.com/
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Of course it didn’t see the light of day.
mythbusters did a segment on moon landing conspiracy theories: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5taIxlNA_Lw&feature=PlayList&p=9F10D2CCFEF41556&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=1
Lucy, Lucy, Lucy –
Don’t give the ‘conspiracy theorists’ access to your mind. Their way of thinking, their methods of ‘logic’ will inevitably permeate your very being to the detriment of us all …
Like all conspiracies, valueable and important factual items MUST be ignored, disregarded, discarded in order for the conspiracy ‘story’ to stand up.
Take for instance the monitoring of the comms (communications) and telemetry (capsule/spacecraft data including crew life signs) by various university (and no doubt the USSR!) radio astronomy classes/clubs and individuals, as evidenced by this account:
Tracking Apollo 17 from Florida
A brief excerpt:
Pretty hard to have ‘staged’ this portion of the moon landing ‘hoaxes’ and pulled off the origination of radio signals (requiring the pointing of a 9 Meter diameter dish antenna at the moon!) from the moon complete with Doppler Shift that would be seen as Apollo 17 revolved around that noon …
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That’s no moon… it’s a spacestation!