Quote of the week #5 – Waxman's stunningly stupid statement

Omigod!!!…… I’m so embarrassed for you Americans.
…. the north pole is gonna evaporate?
…. the tundra is gonna flip up into the air and go Booo!
…. Ships are gonna drive down the shipping lanes like a highway and run over all the polar bears.
…. I think it’s time for Waxman to retire.

J.Hansford (20:17:14) :
LOL
What’s wrong “J”, if our leaders say it’s so; it’s so!
You better fall in line, or we’ll send the Tundra monster
for you!

Craig from Belvedere, Mr. Lynn, and others on why Waxman and the AGWers want to do this. I gave another answer before (cannot remember which thread) and now I want to explain a little bit more.
This comes straight from California’s Air Resources Board and their AB 32, the Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006.
ARB (and the Obama administration, and the EPA) claims that implementing all these carbon-reducing measures will create green jobs. If true, it would be good for the economy. They define green jobs in an interesting way, though.
It turns out that California (and as far as I know, ONLY California) cut energy use per capita since 1960, relative to the other 49 states. The reason, per ARB, is by legal mandates that appliances must be the high efficiency type. The result of using less energy per capita was more disposable income in every Californian’s pocket, which they spent on discretionary items.
Latte and mocha coffees made by coffee baristas were actually mentioned in a state committee reporting to ARB as examples of the green jobs created. The statistics almost bear out this point, as 33 percent of the jobs created in California were in the retail sector since the reduced energy use began. What they do not crow about is that another 33 percent of all the jobs created were in government. The remaining jobs were scattered about.
So, ARB (and by extension, Obama and the warmists) believes that cutting carbon, increasing energy prices, and further reducing energy use per capita will result in even more disposable income, which will be spent on even more discretionary items, thereby creating more jobs. They call these green jobs.
The reality is completely different. The reason California had lower energy use per capita since 1960, is that that date (or near that date) was when air conditioning began to be in widespread use across the country. California, though, did not require much air conditioning due to a favorable climate. That one fact, with the three major cities located along the coast, where the ocean keeps the summers cool, accounts for the lower energy use relative to the other 49 states. The three cities are San Francisco (and surroundings), Los Angeles (and surroundings), and San Diego (and its satellite cities). Air conditioning also uses much more energy in humid areas, but the inland areas of California are very dry, even if they are hot. So, relative to cities like Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Miami, San Antonio, and others across the South, and northern cities such as Chicago, where it is both hot and humid, California’s people use very little power to air condition their homes. Again, it is the local climate, not some law stating refrigerators must use X amount of power.
But ARB will never admit that. It is the complete Achilles heel in all this AGW nonsense about green jobs.
It is not about factory workers building solar panels, nor windmills, nor electric cars, and ARB freely admits this in their official documents. Those things will be made overseas and imported. There will be a few jobs on the installation side, but not nearly as many as ARB claims overall.
So, there you have it. That is what this is all about. A myth, because no air conditioner in the hot, humid towns or cities will use substantially less energy. There may be some benefit from upgrading to new A/C, but it will be offset. Countering any such improvements in air conditioners is the growing use of rechargeable items in the home, such as laptops, iPods, and cell phones. Further increasing electric loads are modern tvs such as plasma tvs, and entertainment centers with all their power consumption.

Given the utter stupidity and weakness of the AGW/MMCC theories I think Waxmans statement fits perfectly within the AGW/MMCC narrative, meaningless,ill informed,alice in wonderland mumbo jumbo anti science!
I feel that even if they started dressing in clown suits and went round blowing bubbles it wouldnt significantly diminish their group gravitas and authority to represent the ‘CONsensus.
Ill get my coat.

Roger,
I grew up in San Diego. It gets super hot at times. Most houses don’t have AC, but we ran fans almost 24/7 for July and Aug

I don’t have much of a response…
but I did laugh for about two minutes straight.
This is about as conscious a stream of thought as Willy Lee’s in Naked Lunch.

I finally get this blog!
It’s an outpost heavily manned by, how to say this politely..[snip-not polite enough]? With first rate quotes like this:
“I remember when Jimmy Carter decided to put a luxury tax on yachts of a certain size. The people that could buy them put off their purchases and there were layoffs, and we paid the unemployment taxes.”
Yes, we all felt the crash from the yachting business those years. Millions of lives destroyed. Damn those luxury taxes! If only Jimmy Carter had left the yachts alone the world would be a better place. I think anyone buying anything that costs more than $200,000 shouldn’t pay taxes on it, as a way of saying thanks to them for buying it.
I thought this was a serious science related blog. I didn’t know it had an agenda, not to discuss and enlighten but roar and spread BS. [snip] I kept thinking there’d be discussion about things like facts. Not screaming heads and the occasional conspiracy nut-job with a hat lined with tin-foil.
When people constantly complain about the people in Govt. (just like any person who goes on and on about one single topic without any ability to moderate themselves..wink, wink) what they are complaining about is who makes up the society we live in. At least with this system of Govt. we get a pretty good chance of seeing different types of people involved in our government. And it is out Govt. No matter how embarrassing they act. You can vote for someone else (sorry but Ayn Rand is dead) or run for office yourself and let the others in society hear you and your ideas out. Our Government tends to be made up of, dumb, smart, arrogant religious, paranoid, crazy, depressed, happy, ineffectual people who are sometimes beholden to special interests. No more and no less then any large private company would be. Heck no more then the people who make up the neighborhood you live in. Unless you’ve gone Kazinski and are holed up in a 12 square foot cabin with guns, water, lysol and a pet racoon called Big Jim
People say dumb things. Wow. Imagine that. Does that mean they have no valid opinion? That you judge them on this one issue? Or do you look at the combination of their work. For instance I won’t hold it against the Bush Administration that the largest attack on American soil in history happened on their watch. I’ll judge them by the totality of their 8 years in power.
Next we will tackle ‘life is not fair.’ And move on to, ‘Not everyone has a MASTERS DEGREE in SCIENCE!’
But by working together and finding common ground, we can all benefit. But if your idea of Society is one which only looks to your particular single interest or specialty, you will be disappointed and may start carrying around signs that question Obama’s birth certificate and the right of the city to enforce parking laws. But that’s what keeps this little tide-pool interesting. A place you can stop by, look in and be amazed with all the weird creatures. And by that I mean not only this blog, but the entire planet. A tide-pool run wild indeed.
Reply: A couple of snips and this became approvable. ~ charles the moderator

I don’t have much of a response…
but I did laugh for about two minutes straight.
This is about as conscious a stream of thought as Willy Lee’s in Naked Lunch.
OH! You’re my new favorite blogger fyi

It is fun mocking ignorant politicians. However Mr. Waxman is no more ignorant than nearly all climate scientists who believe that CO2 traps heat in the atmosphere.
Climate science is the problem not Mr Waxman.
Climate scientists, formerly geographers, cannot understand physics, it’s too hard. It involves equations and abstract concepts. They can only grasp simple metaphors and the adding and subtraction of 3 digit numbers in energy balance diagrams.
The lower atmosphere is warmer than the upper atmosphere because of the effect of the earth’s gravity on the nitrogen and oxygen that make up 99% of the air. Boring nitrogen is never mentioned by climate scientists.
The cooling of the last few years and the economic slowdown has lessened the effect of green scares, not climate scientists.
The greenhouse/ blanket/ trapping effect of gases in the air does not exist. Until climate scientists understand this, politicians and the greens will continue to use it to alarm and mislead people.

mfearing
We’ve all been there. Though I think you’ll find more interesting “facts” here than most other places and, more diverse political opinion.
What’s wrong with a bit of banter?

mfearing,
My quote about the luxury tax was not to suggest that it ruined the country but that the consequences of it were unintended and were not helpful to the American people. Whenever the government tries to pick winners and losers unintended consequences happen. The cap and trade bill is so large that the unintended consequences of it are unimaginable.
USA Today has a short article that discusses the unintended consequences of another government action here:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/2009-02-04-executive-pay-cap-consequences_N.htm
The last sentence, “The unintended consequence is you end up killing the institution you tried to save,” says Johnson. “You drive away the good people.”
I’m afraid that the unintended consequences of cap and trade are much worse than anyone now imagines. I’m sure I’m not the only one.
Thanks,
Mike Bryant

My Congresscritter is Greg Walden who had the temerity to question the Profit, Algore, on use of timber resources,he was declared an unbeleiever,and gaveled down by the commitee chairman- the Man Of Wax….
Having an interesst of the Enlightenment and Reformation,(the one would not have happened without the other.)-things haven’t changed all that much in 450 years…