Day 1 of the ICCC conference

UPDATE: see an additional report from Prof. Bob Carter below the “read more” line.

ALSO: See this announcement at Climate Audit

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Photo by Evan Jones

I don’t have  a lot of time to blog about today’s conference. You can see the agenda here.

Highlights today: I spent about a half hour meeting with Steve McIntyre. Some improvements to the Climate Audit website will be coming soon. See this announcement at Climate Audit

Frequent contributor and moderator Evan Jones came by too. As always it is a pleasure to see him.

Attendance doubled from last year. 400 last year, 700 for the dinner tonight with another 100 tomorrow registered.

I shared a table tonight with John Coleman, Joe D’Aleo, Art Horn, Alexandre Aguiar of Metsul Brazil, James Waters, Peter Leavitt, and Steve McIntyre. The presentations from Vaclav Klaus and from Richard Lindzen were enlightening. I particularly liked Lindzen’s presentation and I hope to have a copy to share here. UPDATE: His speech is here

Despite what critics have said about the conference, it was well attended by a wide variety of people from the US, Canada, Britain, and the EU. A number of elected officials were in attendance. Tomorrow Congressman Tom McClintock from California will be speaking. For those that stick by the tired old fallacy that the conference is funded by “Big Oil” to that I say you are quite wrong. Rebuttal here and list of sponsors

I discovered that WUWT has quite a following, and I was mobbed by people after the dinner presentation. It was an odd feeling.

UPDATE: Professor Bob Carter also has a nice account which I’m reposting here:

Heartland-2: session one

by Bob Carter

March 9, 2009

President Vaclav Klaus reports latest poll from the Czech Republic: only 11% of people believe that man has a significant influence in warming the climate.

West Australian Joanne Nova’s Climate Skeptics Handbook launched, and a 150,000 print run announced.

“We will win this debate”, says Dr Richard Lindzen, “for we are right and they are wrong”.

The opening session of the Heartland-2 Conference opened with a bang here in Manhattan tonight [Sunday evening March 8, 2009]. With registrations of around 700 persons, the conference is almost twice the size of its predecessor last year. The audience for the two opening plenary talks, held over dinner, included an eclectic mixture of scientists, engineers, economists, policy specialists, government representatives and media reporters. 

In welcoming delegates, and opening the conference, President of the Heartland Institute Joe Bast also launched two new publications. The first, by Anthony Watts, is a summary of his extensive studies of the weather stations at which U.S. surface temperatures are measured (“Is the U.S. Surface Temperature Record Reliable”), which have revealed that many stations are scandalously poorly sited for their intended purpose. The second, “The Skeptic’s Handbook”, by Joanne Nova from West Australia, is a succinct and well illustrated briefing paper that summarizes accurately the evidence against dangerous human-caused warming in a humorous and easily understood format.

The first Plenary Address was given by President Vaclav Klaus, who is President of both the Czech Republic and (for a 6 month current term) the European Union. His talk was greeted, both before and after, with standing ovations. 

In response to a question, he reported a just-released Czech poll, which shows that only 11% of persons questioned in a recent poll believe that man has a significant influence in warming the global climate.

The President commenced his talk by commenting that little change had occurred in the global warming debate since his talk, 12 months earlier, at the Heartland-1 conference. He likened the situation to his former experience under communist government, where arguing against the dominant viewpoint falls into emptiness. No matter how high the quality of the arguments and evidence that you advance against the dangerous warming idea, nobody listens, and by even advancing skeptical arguments you are dismissed as a naïve and uninformed person.

The environmentalists say that the planet must be saved, but from whom and from what? “In reality”, the President commented, “we have to save it, and us, from them”.

Klaus reported his discouragement at participating in meetings with other senior politicians at Davos and within the EC. Here, he finds that not one other head of state who will make common cause in support of a rational assessment of the scientific evidence. Instead, all believe that the summaries provided by the IPCC represent the scientific “truth” on global warming.

But the climate data do not support the theory of human causation; the IPCC summaries therefore do not represent science, but instead environmental politics and activism. As a result, large and highly organized rent seeking bureaucracies and groups have emerged, and they further propagate the climate alarmism that is now in their self-interest.

President Klaus professed to be puzzled by the environmentalists’ approach to technical progress. It as if they “want to stop economic progress and take mankind centuries back”, he said. Applying their ethic of “saving the world”, western electorates are being asked for the first time in history to abandon successful current technologies before new technologies have been developed to replace them. Klaus stressed that there is no known, feasible way in which modern technological society can be run based on present sources of renewable, clean, green energy.

The second Plenary Address was delivered by Dr Richard Lindzen of MIT, an acknowledged world leader in atmospheric physics and a doyen of meteorological science.

Dr Lindzen started by making the important observation that being skeptical about dangerous human-caused global warming does not make one a good scientist, and nor does endorsing global warming necessarily make one a bad scientist.

He then pointed out the professional difficulties that are raised for many skeptics when scientists whose research they respect nonetheless endorse global warming. In most such cases, however, the science that such persons do is not about global warming in the strict sense. It’s just that supporting global warming makes their life, and especially their funding life, easier.

Thus, it is a particular problem for young scientists to oppose the prevailing alarmist orthodoxy, because to do so is to cruel their chances of receiving research funding. For as long as it is the AGW spin that attracts the research funds, for so long will there be a strong disincentive for most scientists to question the hypothesis in public.

Lindzen commented that the politicization of the AGW issue has had an extraordinarily corrupting influence on science. Most funding that goes to global warming would not be provided were it not for the climate scare. It has therefore become standard to include in any research proposal the effect of presumed AGW on your topic, quite irrespective of whether it has any real relevance or not.

Lindzen asserted that it boils down to a matter of scientific logic against authority. The global warming movement has skilfully co-opted sources of authority, such as the IPCC and various scientific academies. For instance, over a period of 20 years, the US Academy of Science has had a backdoor route for the election of environmentalists as Members of the Academy. The success of this tactic is indicated by the fact that the current President of the Academy (Ralph Cicerone) was elected that way and is a strong environmentalist.

But in giving an endorsement of alarm about climate change, the NAS, as well as similar societies in other countries, has never polled their own expert membership. Rather, the pro-alarm policy statements that are issued by various professional societies express the views of only the activist few, who often control the governing Council.

Despite the manifold problems of combating the alarmist climate message, Dr Lindzen concluded his talk with the rousing observation that in time the climate rationalist cause will win. “When it comes to global warming hysteria”, he said, “neither gross ignorance nor even grosser dishonesty has been in short supply. But we will win this debate, for we are right and they are wrong”.

During an extended question and answer session after the conclusion of the two plenary addresses, Drs Klaus and Lindzen were in close agreement about two things.

The first, is that global warming hysteria is being fomented as part of an environmentalist ideology; it is a politically organized movement. The grip that this hysteria now has on public opinion is explained partly by the fact that there is no equivalent, politically organized movement to mount a defense of sound science. Instead, there is simply a collection of persons who are united mainly by their common affront at the gross abuse of science that is going on.

The second common viewpoint was expressed in response to the question “What arguments are the most effective to promulgate the skeptics’ cause of building policy, not on authority, IPCC or otherwise, but on sound science”.

Both President Klaus and Dr Lindzen agreed that the most important arguments were (i) that sound science demonstrates that human increases in carbon dioxide are not going to cause dangerous global warming, and (ii) that a thorough cost-benefit analysis must be applied to all potential policy options.

For those on all sides of the argument accept that the Kyoto Protocol, despite its high cost, will do nothing towards measurably reducing global temperature; and the public need to be informed that the same is true also for the more ambitious carbon dioxide cuts mooted under cap and trade legislation. If taxpayers are to fund the operation, then it is only fair that they be told that the considerable pain, which will run to many trillions of dollars, will be for no measurable gain.

It was not expected that new science would be presented at the opening Plenary Session of Heartland-2. What participants got, instead, were inspirational messages delivered by two inspirational leaders of the climate rationalist cause.

Bob Carter

Bob Carter’s preliminary article on Heartland-2 here

SOURCES:

The full text of President Klaus’ speech will be posted on the websites of the Climate Science Coalition:

http://www.climatescienceinternational.org/

http://www.nzclimatescience.org/

http://www.auscsc.org.au/

As this article went to press, an account of the Heartland-2 meeting by Andrew Revkin appeared in the New York Times. Reading it is an interesting exercise in spot-the-spin.

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Just Want Truth...
March 9, 2009 4:50 pm

“Ric Werme (10:13:55) : ….I endevour to forget no item of importance before its time.”
funny!

MartinGAtkins
March 9, 2009 4:56 pm

April E. Coggins (10:27:56)

MartinGAtkins (08:59:11) Is there any explanation of why those stations would be dropped from GISS? I find it very odd that weather data from two ag research universities would be dropped.

I can’t help you with GISS. You could try asking the universities about who maintains them and who uses the data. They may even know why they are no longer used by GISS.

Steven Goddard
March 9, 2009 5:03 pm

Penn and Teller on Global Warming

David L. Hagen
March 9, 2009 5:04 pm

GERHARD GERLICH; RALF D. TSCHEUSCHNER note that convection is the critical difference in the commercial greenhouse effect or a car warming in the sun.
Climate change may similarly be changing the magnitude of convection and precipitation that may counter changes in radiation from Total Solar Insolation, Cloud cover, CO2 and water vapor.
These changes need to be evaluated against the change in temperature lapse rate and consequent changes in radiative heat transfer with such changes.

Psi
March 9, 2009 5:05 pm

Mike Ryan (14:21:52) :
Just been looking at the programme for the Heartland Conference. One of the things which struck me was the long list of free market/libertarian groups involved. Being a bit of an all-round sceptic, not just a climate sceptic, this got me wondering. Why does this link exist?

Mike, as someone who has become quite skeptical of AGW, but is also skeptical of the “they are trying to take over the world” anti-AGW argument, I appreciate your raising this issue. To my way of thinking, it is unfortunate that some AGW skeptics tend to resort to this kind of argument, when they could just as well acknowledge that their opponents may be sincere but misguided or misinformed. Skeptics have a huge and growing arsenal of scientific data and perspectives, mostly being swept under the rug by alarmists. There is no need, imho, to cloud the debate with accusations of bad intent or hidden political agendas. Those may be an influence, but I suggest that they are not in fact the primary driver of AGW hysteria.

J. Peden
March 9, 2009 5:07 pm

Neven:
“I regularly notice that a lot of prominent skeptics are relatively old. And most old people I know (not all of them though) are quite entrenched in their patterns and beliefs, which makes them rather stubborn and inflexible.”
Somwhat similarly, using my own anecdotal logic, by the age of 18 I had concluded with the utmost confidence that by the age of 18 nearly everyone would have realised that stereotyping people by means of their external physical characteristics – sex, “race”, age, you name it – or other froms of these “identity” groupings – ethnicty, geographic regionalism, religion or none, income, place of University graduation or none, you name it – was essentially bigoted and therefore a very poor way by which to determine who they were as individuals, what they thought, how “smart” they were, and whether what they said was more likely right or wrong, etc..
I was previously “rigid” as to my confidence in people’s ability to learn, but as proven over time I was obviously quite wrong as to the reality of what many people actually learn and realize.
But, oops, I did it again: until I was about 55 I would have been nearly as rigid in my belief that any group of scientists working on an ostensibly very important project over a long period of time would surely have been doing real science.
But then in 2000 I ran into the ipcc “Climate Scientists”. By deciding to look at the ipcc and “Climate Science” myself.

Reply to  J. Peden
March 9, 2009 5:14 pm

Neven, here are some stats from a commercial service that monitors WUWT.
Age
1% 3-11
17% 12-17
9% 18-34
32% 35-49
42% 50+
Affluence
12% 0-30K
22% 30-60K
35% 60-100K
31% 100K+

Psi
March 9, 2009 5:15 pm

Aron (15:12:02) :
Some of you may be aware that I post on the comment section of the Guardian’s Environment section. I have never resorted to ad hominem attacks even though I am frequently attacked by a small clique of Alarmists.
Well, today I was posting some hard facts about how unreliable surface temperature monitoring stations are and that historical data is contaminated by urban heat island effects and. in earlier times, dense urban smog which blocked sunlight.
I was repeatedly attacked and mocked for this but did not take the bait. They could not get me to resort to personal attacks.
I have just seen that the Guardian won’t let me post comments any longer. My post comment button has been disabled. Here is a screenshot to prove it.
http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32786956.jpg
This prompts me to believe that the anonymous comments from Alarmists were partly attributable to Guardian employees or that the Guardian does not want my views on 19th century temperature data being contaminated by smog to be posted any longer.

Aaron, I’m sensing a real pattern here, one I recognize in my work on another very different topic than this one. I recommend that you, or someone on your behalf, write a formal email to the Guardian webmasters pointing out the problem and requesting a redress. If they are willing to admit to the ban, ask them the reason why. Put them in the position of having to explain the action, and ask them to correct it.
Document it all. If you do not recieve a legitimate response, then the matter should be fully documented in public (more permanent, not lost in a thread like this) view on another website. In fact, there should be a site devoted (or perhaps Anthony can create a space here for it) specifically to documenting these kinds of actions by the high guardians of Climatespeak. Such incidents in themselves tell a story that needs to be told, about a brittle and insecure status quo that resorts to banning the messenger for simply pointing out that its holy emperor is in the buff.
Thanks for

Schwarze Tulpe
March 9, 2009 6:06 pm

Neven (01:38:28)’s regarding the age of skeptics…
In addition to J. Peden’s excellent comments regarding the bigotry of such a thought process, please be aware that older people, such as myself, have years of witnessing, experiencing, and thereby remembering the completely natural warming and cooling oscillations of the climate. It is for this reason that we (the skeptic) became aware that the warmists were wrong in suggesting that the short lived warming trend was irreversible anthropogenic global warming and that it was an insult to historical fact and the intelligence of people to suggest as much.
By the way, I am 47 years of age. Too old to know anything?

Pamela Gray
March 9, 2009 6:49 pm

While we wait with CO2 breath for the next report. I have an idea. At the end of the conference, let’s all open an ice cold bottle of CO2 and quaff it to Anthony. I’m a Coors Light person (would rather have a Henry’s Reserve but I am trying to watch my middle so that I can still see my feet). When is this gathering over?

Just Want Truth...
March 9, 2009 6:53 pm

I wonder if Richard Feynman would have accepted that climate models could predict the future, or if co2 has as much influence on the atmosphere as some say it has.
After watching this video I have my doubts he would…. I have my doubts he would.
Richard Feynman on Scientific Investigation

Mike Bryant
March 9, 2009 7:08 pm

Paul S (16:37:35) :
“Off topic, but has the tornado season started early over in the US?”
What is tornado season? Tornado season usually means the peak period for historical tornado reports in an area, when averaged over the history of reports. There is a general northward shift in “tornado season” in the U.S. from late winter through mid summer. The peak period for tornadoes in the southern plains, for example, is during May into early June. On the Gulf coast, it is earlier during the spring; in the northern plains and upper Midwest, it is June or July. Remember: tornadoes can happen any time of year if the conditions are right!

AKD
March 9, 2009 7:21 pm

Aron:
How to complain
guardian.co.uk
The Guardian, the Observer, and guardian.co.uk strive to maintain the highest editorial standards at all times. However we do not always get things right and should you feel it necessary to correct or complain about an article, the means for doing so are printed below.
Please remember to direct your complaint to the relevant publication. Although you will have read the article online, it will often have originated from one of the two newspapers. If the article does come from the Guardian or the Observer, it will say so underneath the date on the article.
For more general queries, complaints and questions, please contact
userhelp@guardian.co.uk
How to contact the Guardian’s readers’ editor
It is the policy of the Guardian to correct significant errors as soon as possible and the paper has appointed a Readers’ Editor to deal with questions and complaints from readers. The Guardian also has an Ombudsman to represent the interests of readers where the Readers Editor is unable to resolve a problem to the satisfaction of all parties.
Please quote the date of the article you have read. Readers may contact the office of the readers’ editor by telephoning +44 (0)20 3353 4736 between 11am and 5pm Monday to Friday excluding UK public holidays.
Email: reader@guardian.co.uk
Fax: 020 3353 3188.
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How to contact the Observer’s Readers’ Editor
Email: reader.co.uk
Tel: 020 3353 4656 (Mon-Fri)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/information/guardianunlimited/story/0,,824307,00.html
I believe Guardian has an external ombudsman.

Pamela Gray
March 9, 2009 7:43 pm

Is it possible to change the tide here? Not according to the following article. Advertising solidifies your base and sways those not in your base who lean your way. Then once there, they don’t leave. However, knowing that, efforts to break the dam will be informed by hard it will be to put a crack in it.
http://www.factcheck.org/specialreports/our_disinformed_electorate.html

Just Want Truth...
March 9, 2009 7:43 pm

Pamela Gray (18:49:28) : “…I’m a Coors Light person”
Bass Ale or Anchor Steam for me.

Peter S
March 9, 2009 7:55 pm

Aron (15:12:02) :
You have to actually type something into the text field before the ‘post comment’ button becomes active – have you tried that?
I recently got placed in ‘moderation’ on their climate blogs, which meant delays of days before some of my comments appeared – whilst my other comments were simply ‘disappeared’ into thin air. I wrote to the moderator asking when I would be allowed to post again and they completely ignored me… mind you, the trouble started when I suggested a link between climate change advocacy and a repression of homosexual desire in males. So I count the repression of such ideas from the Guardian blogs as perhaps an indicator that I was getting a little too to the, errrr… bone, for comfort.
If all else fails, it’s easy just to sign up again under another name. That’s what I did.
Great post Anthony on Heartland-2 – please continue for the rest of it.

Pamela Gray
March 9, 2009 7:56 pm

That last sentence was typed too fast: …will be informed by HOW hard it will be to put a crack in it.

Pamela Gray
March 9, 2009 8:03 pm

There is a US Dept of Ed web site that is actually very good (I know, that’s just amazing). It seeks to serve as a clearinghouse and review of published research on fairly well known educational curriculum and practices. It has set up a review process based on well-known standards of research design and reporting that leads the panel to assign a “meets standards” vs. “meets standards with reservations” vs. “does not meet standards”. It then goes on to rate curriculum, based on the web site’s literature review, as to whether or not it can provide a positive affect on its targeted student population.
I am wondering if such a panel can be convened to serve in this capacity on published climate research?
The educational site is here
http://ies.ed.gov/ncee/wwc/

Aron
March 9, 2009 9:45 pm

Peter,
Oh yes I know that I have to type something!!! I just made that screen capture from a reloaded page to show that my post comment button is permanently greyed out.

John Philip
March 9, 2009 11:19 pm

Psi – the Post Comment button at the Guardian is disabled until you type some content into the comment box … in your screenshot it is empty. Try typing a comment and see if it enables the button ….

March 10, 2009 12:36 am

Thanks Andrew for implying that Britain is not in the EU. If only that were true.

March 10, 2009 1:10 am

I believe Guardian has an external ombudsman.

Paul S
March 10, 2009 1:36 am

Mike Bryant (19:08:42) :
What is tornado season? Tornado season usually means the peak period for historical tornado reports in an area, when averaged over the history of reports.

Mike, apologies, I wasn’t being to specific. I was referring to the season through what is typically referred to as tornado valley, Texas, Arkansas etc. I believed this season usually starts in April. It an area of meteorology I’m just getting into.

Just Want Truth...
March 10, 2009 4:53 am

Mary Hinge (04:57:19) :
I guess you’re implying that manmade co2 caused record temperatures. Or are you just implying that commenters here only pay attention to records of cold? I guess that’s what it was. I will have to guess your meaning because I see you haven’t checked back in to elaborate.
I think the reason I point out record cold, which has been happening for 2 years now, is because ‘global warming’ is supposed to be happening. Record cold for two years running, and cooling trends, were not predicted in AGW.
Occasional record heat, which is not unusual, isn’t worth pointing out, just as occasional record cold isn’t worth pointing out. These both would be normal ‘weather’, which your side is quick to point out. You should have been quick to point it out too.

HasItBeen4YearsYet?
March 10, 2009 7:37 am

Paul S (15:39:34) :
Also, it was the majority of scientists who “knew” the universe had existed forever, until the middle of last century when Penzias and Wilson accidentally discovered the signature of the big bang.
http://www.bell-labs.com/project/feature/archives/cosmology/
…which was predicted by a minority of Gamow.

Aron
March 10, 2009 8:00 am

Yep, the Guardian reactivated my post comment button but have placed me in moderation. I just discovered that when I commented on Monbiot’s latest blog post about automobiles. If they don’t allow my post to be displayed in public then I’ll let that be known to a lot of readers on a certain site.

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