Day 1 of the ICCC conference

UPDATE: see an additional report from Prof. Bob Carter below the “read more” line.

ALSO: See this announcement at Climate Audit

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Photo by Evan Jones

I don’t have  a lot of time to blog about today’s conference. You can see the agenda here.

Highlights today: I spent about a half hour meeting with Steve McIntyre. Some improvements to the Climate Audit website will be coming soon. See this announcement at Climate Audit

Frequent contributor and moderator Evan Jones came by too. As always it is a pleasure to see him.

Attendance doubled from last year. 400 last year, 700 for the dinner tonight with another 100 tomorrow registered.

I shared a table tonight with John Coleman, Joe D’Aleo, Art Horn, Alexandre Aguiar of Metsul Brazil, James Waters, Peter Leavitt, and Steve McIntyre. The presentations from Vaclav Klaus and from Richard Lindzen were enlightening. I particularly liked Lindzen’s presentation and I hope to have a copy to share here. UPDATE: His speech is here

Despite what critics have said about the conference, it was well attended by a wide variety of people from the US, Canada, Britain, and the EU. A number of elected officials were in attendance. Tomorrow Congressman Tom McClintock from California will be speaking. For those that stick by the tired old fallacy that the conference is funded by “Big Oil” to that I say you are quite wrong. Rebuttal here and list of sponsors

I discovered that WUWT has quite a following, and I was mobbed by people after the dinner presentation. It was an odd feeling.

UPDATE: Professor Bob Carter also has a nice account which I’m reposting here:

Heartland-2: session one

by Bob Carter

March 9, 2009

President Vaclav Klaus reports latest poll from the Czech Republic: only 11% of people believe that man has a significant influence in warming the climate.

West Australian Joanne Nova’s Climate Skeptics Handbook launched, and a 150,000 print run announced.

“We will win this debate”, says Dr Richard Lindzen, “for we are right and they are wrong”.

The opening session of the Heartland-2 Conference opened with a bang here in Manhattan tonight [Sunday evening March 8, 2009]. With registrations of around 700 persons, the conference is almost twice the size of its predecessor last year. The audience for the two opening plenary talks, held over dinner, included an eclectic mixture of scientists, engineers, economists, policy specialists, government representatives and media reporters. 

In welcoming delegates, and opening the conference, President of the Heartland Institute Joe Bast also launched two new publications. The first, by Anthony Watts, is a summary of his extensive studies of the weather stations at which U.S. surface temperatures are measured (“Is the U.S. Surface Temperature Record Reliable”), which have revealed that many stations are scandalously poorly sited for their intended purpose. The second, “The Skeptic’s Handbook”, by Joanne Nova from West Australia, is a succinct and well illustrated briefing paper that summarizes accurately the evidence against dangerous human-caused warming in a humorous and easily understood format.

The first Plenary Address was given by President Vaclav Klaus, who is President of both the Czech Republic and (for a 6 month current term) the European Union. His talk was greeted, both before and after, with standing ovations. 

In response to a question, he reported a just-released Czech poll, which shows that only 11% of persons questioned in a recent poll believe that man has a significant influence in warming the global climate.

The President commenced his talk by commenting that little change had occurred in the global warming debate since his talk, 12 months earlier, at the Heartland-1 conference. He likened the situation to his former experience under communist government, where arguing against the dominant viewpoint falls into emptiness. No matter how high the quality of the arguments and evidence that you advance against the dangerous warming idea, nobody listens, and by even advancing skeptical arguments you are dismissed as a naïve and uninformed person.

The environmentalists say that the planet must be saved, but from whom and from what? “In reality”, the President commented, “we have to save it, and us, from them”.

Klaus reported his discouragement at participating in meetings with other senior politicians at Davos and within the EC. Here, he finds that not one other head of state who will make common cause in support of a rational assessment of the scientific evidence. Instead, all believe that the summaries provided by the IPCC represent the scientific “truth” on global warming.

But the climate data do not support the theory of human causation; the IPCC summaries therefore do not represent science, but instead environmental politics and activism. As a result, large and highly organized rent seeking bureaucracies and groups have emerged, and they further propagate the climate alarmism that is now in their self-interest.

President Klaus professed to be puzzled by the environmentalists’ approach to technical progress. It as if they “want to stop economic progress and take mankind centuries back”, he said. Applying their ethic of “saving the world”, western electorates are being asked for the first time in history to abandon successful current technologies before new technologies have been developed to replace them. Klaus stressed that there is no known, feasible way in which modern technological society can be run based on present sources of renewable, clean, green energy.

The second Plenary Address was delivered by Dr Richard Lindzen of MIT, an acknowledged world leader in atmospheric physics and a doyen of meteorological science.

Dr Lindzen started by making the important observation that being skeptical about dangerous human-caused global warming does not make one a good scientist, and nor does endorsing global warming necessarily make one a bad scientist.

He then pointed out the professional difficulties that are raised for many skeptics when scientists whose research they respect nonetheless endorse global warming. In most such cases, however, the science that such persons do is not about global warming in the strict sense. It’s just that supporting global warming makes their life, and especially their funding life, easier.

Thus, it is a particular problem for young scientists to oppose the prevailing alarmist orthodoxy, because to do so is to cruel their chances of receiving research funding. For as long as it is the AGW spin that attracts the research funds, for so long will there be a strong disincentive for most scientists to question the hypothesis in public.

Lindzen commented that the politicization of the AGW issue has had an extraordinarily corrupting influence on science. Most funding that goes to global warming would not be provided were it not for the climate scare. It has therefore become standard to include in any research proposal the effect of presumed AGW on your topic, quite irrespective of whether it has any real relevance or not.

Lindzen asserted that it boils down to a matter of scientific logic against authority. The global warming movement has skilfully co-opted sources of authority, such as the IPCC and various scientific academies. For instance, over a period of 20 years, the US Academy of Science has had a backdoor route for the election of environmentalists as Members of the Academy. The success of this tactic is indicated by the fact that the current President of the Academy (Ralph Cicerone) was elected that way and is a strong environmentalist.

But in giving an endorsement of alarm about climate change, the NAS, as well as similar societies in other countries, has never polled their own expert membership. Rather, the pro-alarm policy statements that are issued by various professional societies express the views of only the activist few, who often control the governing Council.

Despite the manifold problems of combating the alarmist climate message, Dr Lindzen concluded his talk with the rousing observation that in time the climate rationalist cause will win. “When it comes to global warming hysteria”, he said, “neither gross ignorance nor even grosser dishonesty has been in short supply. But we will win this debate, for we are right and they are wrong”.

During an extended question and answer session after the conclusion of the two plenary addresses, Drs Klaus and Lindzen were in close agreement about two things.

The first, is that global warming hysteria is being fomented as part of an environmentalist ideology; it is a politically organized movement. The grip that this hysteria now has on public opinion is explained partly by the fact that there is no equivalent, politically organized movement to mount a defense of sound science. Instead, there is simply a collection of persons who are united mainly by their common affront at the gross abuse of science that is going on.

The second common viewpoint was expressed in response to the question “What arguments are the most effective to promulgate the skeptics’ cause of building policy, not on authority, IPCC or otherwise, but on sound science”.

Both President Klaus and Dr Lindzen agreed that the most important arguments were (i) that sound science demonstrates that human increases in carbon dioxide are not going to cause dangerous global warming, and (ii) that a thorough cost-benefit analysis must be applied to all potential policy options.

For those on all sides of the argument accept that the Kyoto Protocol, despite its high cost, will do nothing towards measurably reducing global temperature; and the public need to be informed that the same is true also for the more ambitious carbon dioxide cuts mooted under cap and trade legislation. If taxpayers are to fund the operation, then it is only fair that they be told that the considerable pain, which will run to many trillions of dollars, will be for no measurable gain.

It was not expected that new science would be presented at the opening Plenary Session of Heartland-2. What participants got, instead, were inspirational messages delivered by two inspirational leaders of the climate rationalist cause.

Bob Carter

Bob Carter’s preliminary article on Heartland-2 here

SOURCES:

The full text of President Klaus’ speech will be posted on the websites of the Climate Science Coalition:

http://www.climatescienceinternational.org/

http://www.nzclimatescience.org/

http://www.auscsc.org.au/

As this article went to press, an account of the Heartland-2 meeting by Andrew Revkin appeared in the New York Times. Reading it is an interesting exercise in spot-the-spin.

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Burch Seymour
March 9, 2009 10:15 am

Slightly… well OK, completely OT, but I had to share since it is obliquely related to NOAA. Check out this item that is included in the NOAA part of the Omnibus Spending and Pulled Port Bill for 2009:
“SEC. 105. Hereafter, notwithstanding any other
12 provision of law, no funds appropriated under this Act or any
13 other Act shall be used to register, issue, transfer, or
14 enforce any trademark of the phrase ‘‘Last Best Place’’.”
A continuation of this nonsense, no doubt:
http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2005/12/29/news/mtregional/news02.txt
How bizarre that it should be hidden away in the NOAA section.
-b

March 9, 2009 10:22 am

Christopher Booker gave the conference a good write-up in the UK Sunday Telegraph. He is attending the conference, and promised a large summary on his return. (He is a correspondent from the Telegraph.)
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March 9, 2009 10:23 am

TonyS: Try this link:
http://www.giurfa.com/gerlich.pdf

April E. Coggins
March 9, 2009 10:27 am

Gary (08:05:38)
Thank you, I can easily add it to the collection, probably can take care of Colfax, too. I should have done it yesterday while we were out on our CO2 spewing Sunday drive. I can’t do it today because we getting a lot of snow right now. LOL
MartinGAtkins (08:59:11) Is there any explanation of why those stations would be dropped from GISS? I find it very odd that weather data from two ag research universities would be dropped.
Perhaps while I am taking pictures some alarmed government worker will come out to investigate and I can ask them.

March 9, 2009 10:30 am

Michael Ronayne (10:07:38) :
Let’s see if the NYT continues to ignore solar inactivity as they have for the last two years.
And for good reason, as there is as little support for that affecting our climate as for AGW. No need to replace one scare with another. It is not what the scare is about that is important to our handlers, but just that there is a scare. Any scare will do.

Burch Seymour
March 9, 2009 10:33 am

Neven:
“I regularly notice that a lot of prominent skeptics are relatively old. And most old people I know (not all of them though) are quite entrenched in their patterns and beliefs, which makes them rather stubborn and inflexible. ”
I prefer to think of myself as more experienced and less gullible.
What I cannot understand is why so many want so badly for AGW to be true. I mean, if a doctor said I had some terminal disease, I’d absolutely demand a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th opinion, and absolutely would want to find that the 1st doctor was mistaken. Yet we seem to see the opposite with the AGW crowd. Very strange indeed.

Bruce Cobb
March 9, 2009 10:44 am

From the NY Times article by Revkin:
Kert Davies, a climate campaigner for Greenpeace, who is attending the Heartland event, said that the experts giving talks were “a shrinking collection of extremists” and that they were “left talking to themselves.”
ROTFL! That’s their standard line, of course. If they say it often enough, at least the “faithful” will continue to believe it, along with the feeble-minded and gullible.
Stephen H. Schneider, a climatologist at Stanford University and an author of many reports by the intergovernmental climate panel, said, after reviewing the text of presentations for the Heartland meeting, that they were efforts to “bamboozle the innocent.”
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! This, from one of their chief climate bamboozlers, who came up with “we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have…. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”
Yvo de Boer, head of the United Nations office managing international treaty talks on climate change, said, “I don’t believe that what the skeptics say should provide any excuse to delay further” action against global warming.
But he added: “Skeptics are good. It’s important to give people the confidence that the issue is being called into question.”

Wow, what a shocker. In other words, the science doesn’t matter, (not that it ever did) – full steam ahead on climate change legislation, and the war on “evil” C02.
Oh, and we don’t mind Skeptics – they’re good, in fact. We only say this to give people the illusion that we don’t mind the fact that the issue is being called into question, to divert attention from the fact that the wheels on the AGW bandwagon itself are falling off, and our enormous fear of that.

April E. Coggins
March 9, 2009 10:48 am

Neven,
Why do the alarmists resort to scaring school children?

Roger Knights
March 9, 2009 10:51 am

Bloomberg story: “Climate Change Skeptics Meet in new ork to Challenge Obama, ‘Mainstream’ Science”:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601124&sid=aofKTZ4wabJ4&refer=home
It’s 75% quotes from the mainstream pooh-poohing the event, which is in line with Bloomberg’s consistent headlining of every alarmist news story.

Michael Ronayne
March 9, 2009 11:22 am

Leif Svalgaard (10:30:27) :
And for good reason, as there is as little support for that affecting our climate as for AGW. No need to replace one scare with another. It is not what the scare is about that is important to our handlers, but just that there is a scare. Any scare will do.
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed — and hence clamorous to be led to safety — by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
— H. L. Menken
Newspaper Columnist,
In Defense of Women (1920)

savethesharks
March 9, 2009 11:39 am

Mary Hinge wrote:
“Perhaps the conference would like to see the March 2009 temperature records, 597 new record highs and 150 tied highs. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/records/index.php?ts=daily&elem=maxt&month=3&day=0&year=2009&submitted=Get+Records
Mary Hinge….you are “hinging” too much on one piece of data.
During the same time period March 2009, there were 219 LOW Minima either broken or tied and 361 LOW MAXIMA either broken or tied.
Anyone can make the data say what they want when they want (especially when they go picking for cherries!).
And as we are headed toward the boreal spring and Father Sun is a lot higher in the sky….getting THAT many record LOW MAXIMA so late in the season, is pretty damn impressive.
Chris
Norfolk, VA

March 9, 2009 11:57 am

Michael Ronayne (11:22:45) :
“Any scare will do.”
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed

That we can agree on !

March 9, 2009 11:59 am

Michael Ronayne (11:22:45) :
“Any scare will do.”
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed

it may only be a question of time when the GOP will begin to tout the cooling scare. …

Richard deSousa
March 9, 2009 12:00 pm

“Leif Svalgaard (10:30:27) :
Michael Ronayne (10:07:38) :
Let’s see if the NYT continues to ignore solar inactivity as they have for the last two years.
And for good reason, as there is as little support for that affecting our climate as for AGW. No need to replace one scare with another. It is not what the scare is about that is important to our handlers, but just that there is a scare. Any scare will do.”
Our climate has a history of several ice ages over the past 1 million years. If I were a betting person I would wager we will have another ice age before climate warming and the new ice age will be far more devastating than a little warming.

Dave
March 9, 2009 12:11 pm

I was gonna write something pithy but I kept nodding off. Must be old age. Hey Neven, quit pickin’ your nose!
Granpa Dave

EricH
March 9, 2009 12:12 pm

I have e-mailed the BBC national and international news services, uknewsplan@bbc.co.uk
worldnewsplan@bbc.co.uk
giving them information about the conference and asking that they, in the interests of “balance” report this in the same depth and detail that they have Al Gore’s AGW conferences. I pointed out that a plenary address by a double, and current, President, Vaclav Klaus should checkmate an Ex Vice President.
Is the BBC biased? We will soon know for sure.

Roger Knights
March 9, 2009 12:30 pm

Here’s a link to an article arguing for the positive role blogs can have in policy making:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/124930-the-president-vs-blogs-and-the-future-of-derivatives
Here are a few quotes:
“If you’ve worked on economic policy formulation – or in any large bureaucracy – you know how to get your boss to make the decision you want. The key is to frame the options in such a way that he or she feels that your preferred course of action is the only plausible direction. Alternatives need to be undermined or discredited.
…………………
“Blogs relax previous format restrictions. Length can vary, as can technical content. Comments allow immediate feedback, clarification; debate is healthy for ideas. Experts can now express a view or an endorsement immediately to a broader audience – and get pushback, as appropriate.
“And … experts can now talk directly to other experts at a very detailed operational level, and the results of that conversation are now public – and again attract public content (let’s be honest: sometimes experts are way off-base and they need to be told). This is very threatening to official technocrats, both because their monopoly on expertise crumbles and because a broader set of people become skilled at criticizing their ideas. These technocrats would much rather have their boss read newspapers and weekly magazines.”

DJ
March 9, 2009 12:42 pm

>giving them information about the conference and asking that they, in the interests of “balance” report this in the same depth and detail that they have Al Gore’s AGW conferences…
That’s funny. Lets also demand that the media cover the “Flat Earth Society conference” and the “Moon walks occurred in a studio conference” in the interests of balance.
PS Bob Carter is a geologists. He has a great publication record in geology.

George E. Smith
March 9, 2009 12:56 pm

“”” DJ (12:42:58) :
>giving them information about the conference and asking that they, in the interests of “balance” report this in the same depth and detail that they have Al Gore’s AGW conferences…
That’s funny. Lets also demand that the media cover the “Flat Earth Society conference” and the “Moon walks occurred in a studio conference” in the interests of balance.
PS Bob Carter is a geologists. He has a great publication record in geology. “””
Thanks DJ for that illuminating information. I can file it away along with the Resume of the UN’s IPCC chief climatological Guru, Pachauri, who I believe is trained as a railway engineer. Well who better to understand carbon pollution than someone shovelling coal into a train firebox.

HasItBeen4YearsYet?
March 9, 2009 1:16 pm

MAKE THE MOST OF A GOOD CRISIS, AND IF THERE IS NO CRISIS, CREATE ONE. IT DOESN’T MATTER IF IT IS IMAGINARY, AS LONG AS IT’S BELIEVABLE…
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

Indiana Bones
March 9, 2009 1:23 pm

climatebeagle (07:40:24) :
“Gavin Schmidt and James Hansen were invited also. They only have to walk 10 blocks or so from Columbia U. Naturally they declined.”
It is actually about 80 blocks to Times Square from Columbia University – but Schmidt and Hansen will unlikely make it due to predicted ice/sleet storm Tuesday. Overnight temps: 1°C

nvw
March 9, 2009 1:53 pm

DJ (12:42:58)
So Bob Carter is a geologist. And you think that scientists studying past Earth history including past climate is irrelevant? Care to guess what James Hansen’s academic training is in?
Spend a little time researching the geologic constraints on the evolution of CO2 levels through earth history and it may explain why geologists as a rule are sceptical on AGW.

Aron
March 9, 2009 1:58 pm

The Guardian is desperately trying to attack all forms of skepticism and critical inquiry. It has become more and more savage with the drop in temperatures.

Spencer Atwell
March 9, 2009 1:59 pm

Neven
There’s a terrible paradox about getting old.
When you are young you are think you are right most of the time but you are not.
When you are old you know you are right most of the time – and that can be really depressing

DJ
March 9, 2009 2:10 pm

>Thanks DJ for that illuminating information. I can file it away along with the Resume of the UN’s IPCC chief climatological Guru, Pachauri, who I believe is trained as a railway engineer.
Pachauri doesn’t claim or pretend to know better than the climate experts who publish.
>Spend a little time researching the geologic constraints on the evolution of CO2 levels through earth history and it may explain why geologists as a rule are sceptical on AGW.
I’m guessing you are not a geologist by that statement. If you were you would realise the role of CO2 in geological temperature changes is well established.