Day 1 of the ICCC conference

UPDATE: see an additional report from Prof. Bob Carter below the “read more” line.

ALSO: See this announcement at Climate Audit

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Photo by Evan Jones

I don’t have  a lot of time to blog about today’s conference. You can see the agenda here.

Highlights today: I spent about a half hour meeting with Steve McIntyre. Some improvements to the Climate Audit website will be coming soon. See this announcement at Climate Audit

Frequent contributor and moderator Evan Jones came by too. As always it is a pleasure to see him.

Attendance doubled from last year. 400 last year, 700 for the dinner tonight with another 100 tomorrow registered.

I shared a table tonight with John Coleman, Joe D’Aleo, Art Horn, Alexandre Aguiar of Metsul Brazil, James Waters, Peter Leavitt, and Steve McIntyre. The presentations from Vaclav Klaus and from Richard Lindzen were enlightening. I particularly liked Lindzen’s presentation and I hope to have a copy to share here. UPDATE: His speech is here

Despite what critics have said about the conference, it was well attended by a wide variety of people from the US, Canada, Britain, and the EU. A number of elected officials were in attendance. Tomorrow Congressman Tom McClintock from California will be speaking. For those that stick by the tired old fallacy that the conference is funded by “Big Oil” to that I say you are quite wrong. Rebuttal here and list of sponsors

I discovered that WUWT has quite a following, and I was mobbed by people after the dinner presentation. It was an odd feeling.

UPDATE: Professor Bob Carter also has a nice account which I’m reposting here:

Heartland-2: session one

by Bob Carter

March 9, 2009

President Vaclav Klaus reports latest poll from the Czech Republic: only 11% of people believe that man has a significant influence in warming the climate.

West Australian Joanne Nova’s Climate Skeptics Handbook launched, and a 150,000 print run announced.

“We will win this debate”, says Dr Richard Lindzen, “for we are right and they are wrong”.

The opening session of the Heartland-2 Conference opened with a bang here in Manhattan tonight [Sunday evening March 8, 2009]. With registrations of around 700 persons, the conference is almost twice the size of its predecessor last year. The audience for the two opening plenary talks, held over dinner, included an eclectic mixture of scientists, engineers, economists, policy specialists, government representatives and media reporters. 

In welcoming delegates, and opening the conference, President of the Heartland Institute Joe Bast also launched two new publications. The first, by Anthony Watts, is a summary of his extensive studies of the weather stations at which U.S. surface temperatures are measured (“Is the U.S. Surface Temperature Record Reliable”), which have revealed that many stations are scandalously poorly sited for their intended purpose. The second, “The Skeptic’s Handbook”, by Joanne Nova from West Australia, is a succinct and well illustrated briefing paper that summarizes accurately the evidence against dangerous human-caused warming in a humorous and easily understood format.

The first Plenary Address was given by President Vaclav Klaus, who is President of both the Czech Republic and (for a 6 month current term) the European Union. His talk was greeted, both before and after, with standing ovations. 

In response to a question, he reported a just-released Czech poll, which shows that only 11% of persons questioned in a recent poll believe that man has a significant influence in warming the global climate.

The President commenced his talk by commenting that little change had occurred in the global warming debate since his talk, 12 months earlier, at the Heartland-1 conference. He likened the situation to his former experience under communist government, where arguing against the dominant viewpoint falls into emptiness. No matter how high the quality of the arguments and evidence that you advance against the dangerous warming idea, nobody listens, and by even advancing skeptical arguments you are dismissed as a naïve and uninformed person.

The environmentalists say that the planet must be saved, but from whom and from what? “In reality”, the President commented, “we have to save it, and us, from them”.

Klaus reported his discouragement at participating in meetings with other senior politicians at Davos and within the EC. Here, he finds that not one other head of state who will make common cause in support of a rational assessment of the scientific evidence. Instead, all believe that the summaries provided by the IPCC represent the scientific “truth” on global warming.

But the climate data do not support the theory of human causation; the IPCC summaries therefore do not represent science, but instead environmental politics and activism. As a result, large and highly organized rent seeking bureaucracies and groups have emerged, and they further propagate the climate alarmism that is now in their self-interest.

President Klaus professed to be puzzled by the environmentalists’ approach to technical progress. It as if they “want to stop economic progress and take mankind centuries back”, he said. Applying their ethic of “saving the world”, western electorates are being asked for the first time in history to abandon successful current technologies before new technologies have been developed to replace them. Klaus stressed that there is no known, feasible way in which modern technological society can be run based on present sources of renewable, clean, green energy.

The second Plenary Address was delivered by Dr Richard Lindzen of MIT, an acknowledged world leader in atmospheric physics and a doyen of meteorological science.

Dr Lindzen started by making the important observation that being skeptical about dangerous human-caused global warming does not make one a good scientist, and nor does endorsing global warming necessarily make one a bad scientist.

He then pointed out the professional difficulties that are raised for many skeptics when scientists whose research they respect nonetheless endorse global warming. In most such cases, however, the science that such persons do is not about global warming in the strict sense. It’s just that supporting global warming makes their life, and especially their funding life, easier.

Thus, it is a particular problem for young scientists to oppose the prevailing alarmist orthodoxy, because to do so is to cruel their chances of receiving research funding. For as long as it is the AGW spin that attracts the research funds, for so long will there be a strong disincentive for most scientists to question the hypothesis in public.

Lindzen commented that the politicization of the AGW issue has had an extraordinarily corrupting influence on science. Most funding that goes to global warming would not be provided were it not for the climate scare. It has therefore become standard to include in any research proposal the effect of presumed AGW on your topic, quite irrespective of whether it has any real relevance or not.

Lindzen asserted that it boils down to a matter of scientific logic against authority. The global warming movement has skilfully co-opted sources of authority, such as the IPCC and various scientific academies. For instance, over a period of 20 years, the US Academy of Science has had a backdoor route for the election of environmentalists as Members of the Academy. The success of this tactic is indicated by the fact that the current President of the Academy (Ralph Cicerone) was elected that way and is a strong environmentalist.

But in giving an endorsement of alarm about climate change, the NAS, as well as similar societies in other countries, has never polled their own expert membership. Rather, the pro-alarm policy statements that are issued by various professional societies express the views of only the activist few, who often control the governing Council.

Despite the manifold problems of combating the alarmist climate message, Dr Lindzen concluded his talk with the rousing observation that in time the climate rationalist cause will win. “When it comes to global warming hysteria”, he said, “neither gross ignorance nor even grosser dishonesty has been in short supply. But we will win this debate, for we are right and they are wrong”.

During an extended question and answer session after the conclusion of the two plenary addresses, Drs Klaus and Lindzen were in close agreement about two things.

The first, is that global warming hysteria is being fomented as part of an environmentalist ideology; it is a politically organized movement. The grip that this hysteria now has on public opinion is explained partly by the fact that there is no equivalent, politically organized movement to mount a defense of sound science. Instead, there is simply a collection of persons who are united mainly by their common affront at the gross abuse of science that is going on.

The second common viewpoint was expressed in response to the question “What arguments are the most effective to promulgate the skeptics’ cause of building policy, not on authority, IPCC or otherwise, but on sound science”.

Both President Klaus and Dr Lindzen agreed that the most important arguments were (i) that sound science demonstrates that human increases in carbon dioxide are not going to cause dangerous global warming, and (ii) that a thorough cost-benefit analysis must be applied to all potential policy options.

For those on all sides of the argument accept that the Kyoto Protocol, despite its high cost, will do nothing towards measurably reducing global temperature; and the public need to be informed that the same is true also for the more ambitious carbon dioxide cuts mooted under cap and trade legislation. If taxpayers are to fund the operation, then it is only fair that they be told that the considerable pain, which will run to many trillions of dollars, will be for no measurable gain.

It was not expected that new science would be presented at the opening Plenary Session of Heartland-2. What participants got, instead, were inspirational messages delivered by two inspirational leaders of the climate rationalist cause.

Bob Carter

Bob Carter’s preliminary article on Heartland-2 here

SOURCES:

The full text of President Klaus’ speech will be posted on the websites of the Climate Science Coalition:

http://www.climatescienceinternational.org/

http://www.nzclimatescience.org/

http://www.auscsc.org.au/

As this article went to press, an account of the Heartland-2 meeting by Andrew Revkin appeared in the New York Times. Reading it is an interesting exercise in spot-the-spin.

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Just Want Truth...
March 9, 2009 7:27 am

Mary Hinge (04:57:19) :
You did not mention record cold from many parts of the world over the past two years. You only mention part of one month. As your side insists sort term occurrences to not reflect trend. The trend in the earth has been cooling for years now.
Your side should be focusing on the trends like you insist those on the opposite side should.
But I know your side is grasping at every bit of data it can because you know the earth is in a cooling trend. Even some of the leaders on your side are acknowledging the cooling could last for 30 years. Everyone can see “global warming” is not happening, even you can see it.
You also did not point out this photo :
http://gallery.surfacestations.org/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=12972&g2_serialNumber=2

climatebeagle
March 9, 2009 7:40 am


Gavin Schmidt and James Hansen were invited also. They only have to walk 10 blocks or so from Columbia U. Naturally they declined.

That’s sad, how could a scientist refuse to drop in on a local conference in their field if they were really passionate about their work?

April E. Coggins
March 9, 2009 7:47 am

On the subject of record temps and surface stations, I live in Pullman, WA, home of Washington State University. Our local surface station is located at an active USDA research facility. I drove by the station just yesterday and everything appeared to be in order. For some reason, this weather station does not seem to be included in any of the data. When I check it’s reports, they are filled in with X’s. We experienced a record low a couple of days ago and yet it’s not included. We are expecting another record low day after tomorrow and I am assuming that it will be reported as an X. I can’t understand why our weather is being excluded or am I not reading the correct reports? There is another station located about 8 miles away in Moscow, ID, home of the University of Idaho and it’s data also appears as X’s. I haven’t visited that one, but I imagine that it’s similar. Is there an explanation? How many others are being excluded?

Gary
March 9, 2009 8:05 am

April,
You can see the stations that have been surveyed so far in the SurfaceStations gallery at http://gallery.surfacestations.org/main.php?g2_itemId=20
It looks like Moscow, ID is done but Pullman WA still needs photo-documentation. You can find out how to do a survey at http://www.surfacestations.org/ and add a report to the database.

Flanagan
March 9, 2009 8:38 am

Roger and others: the worldwide anomaly for February is one of the hottest ever measured, just wait for the official numbers to come out…
I propose to call this the “skeptic effect” or maybe the “Watts effect”.

Rob
March 9, 2009 8:47 am

FatBigot (23:26:13) :
They seem determined to dress things up in so much techno-guff that the details of their message is not comprehensible to most reasonably well-educated bald fat men,
I believe that is intentional as it was in the 1380`s.
http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/index.html

climatebeagle
March 9, 2009 8:50 am

April E. Coggins
Thanks to E M Smith I found out where the daily data is available from:
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/climatedata.html#daily
I’ve only looked at one station so far but was very surprised to find that in Jan 1893 the Berkeley, CA station reported temps for 31 days, but in 2009 only reported for 16 days, i.e. 15 missing. If most modern records have similar gaps then how reliable is any statistic based upon the data?

DAV
March 9, 2009 8:56 am

Ric Werme (06:28:47) :It looks like readers will also want a response to an earlier version: http://arxiv.org/pdf/0802.4324 :Proof of the Atmospheric Greenhouse Effect
Thanks, Ric, more to read during those long Gore Effect nights 😉

Rob
March 9, 2009 8:56 am

Neven (01:38:28)
Do you remember the Hitler youth movement or are you too young.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Youth

HasItBeen4YearsYet?
March 9, 2009 8:58 am

I HOPE THEY REALIZE…
It doesn’t matter if there is no global warming, because the pols are going to push “renewables” anyway, because that is what they want to do, because that is where the power and money are…

(he gets into some extraneous stuff at the end, but the beginning is pretty informative)
Think neo-ENRON, this time on steroids.
Although the science is one front in the war with the warmmongers, it’s only a diversion from the real battle for political and economic control that will be achieved after the political and economic upheavals that are rushing at us due to the “stimulus” fiasco.
Don’t get me wrong, getting the science right is essential. But if you think that showing people the truth about the science will alter the Left’s agenda, you will be mistaken. Still, it may slow them down enough to mitigate the damage, because without the cover of “settled science” their policies will clearly be seen for the folly they are.
Borrowing from another article; There is NO beef! …at least, not for you.

MartinGAtkins
March 9, 2009 8:59 am

April E. Coggins (07:47:44)

I live in Pullman, WA, home of Washington State University. Our local surface station is located at an active USDA research facility.
There is another station located about 8 miles away in Moscow, ID, home of the University of Idaho
For some reason, this weather station does not seem to be included in any of the data.

Both stopped reporting or were dropped from GISS from June 2007.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/station_data/
Enter there names in the search box.
Try this for historic data up to date March 2008-2009. Play around and see if you can get what you want. Try weekly or daily etc for realtime weather.
http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KPUW/2008/3/1/CustomHistory.html?dayend=1&monthend=3&yearend=2009&req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA
If the link doesn’t work try this.
http://www.wunderground.com/US/WA/Pullman.html

David L. Hagen
March 9, 2009 9:02 am

President Barack Obama is calling for a strategy that he says will restore scientific integrity to government decision-making.

at: Monday, March 09, 2009
Obama signs memo seeking science strategy

Recommend writing Obama and asking him for substantial funding to provide objective quantification of natural versus man made causes of climate change, and validation of climate models.

Steven Goddard
March 9, 2009 9:18 am

Neven,
Lots of young people believe in global warming, because they have been told that the weather was always nice before America and Europe ran amok with CO2 production. There were never any hurricanes, and Penguins and Polar Bears were always happy, peaceful and smiling.
Older people went to school before political indoctrination was the primary purpose of education.

Greg Johnson
March 9, 2009 9:18 am

The discussion regarding the average age of the skeptics participating in the event reminds me of an old quote from a social scientist:
“If a man isn’t a socialist at the age of 18, he has no heart. If he is still a socialist at the age of 30, he has no head.”
In any case in the current political climate, it is difficult for a working scientist who is not already financially secure to be an outspoken critic of AGW, which is in itself worrisome.

Rob
March 9, 2009 9:23 am

Mary Hinge (04:57:19)
You have to read beyond the numbers.
I am a builder and needed a new access onto busy main road, Local Authority said no for the reason that to many accidents had occurred at junctions along route. There were eight junctions with traffic lights at each end, all the accidents had occurred at the traffic lights, on appeal I gained permission.
These AGWers are pulling the wool over your eyes.

Reed Coray
March 9, 2009 9:24 am

reference Mike D. (22:48:59) :
Anthony, if you date Madonna, instead of putting a bag over her head, you’ll be safer if you put a bag over your head.
Keep up the good work.

AKD
March 9, 2009 9:26 am

OT: Bill McKibben is on our local KERA radio talk show “Think” making very alarming statements about the Arctic melting, seas rising and unprecendented droughts and floods around the world all happening right now. If someone has the time, a call or e-mail in to the show with a challenging question would be great:
Tell us what you Think: 1-800-933-5372 or think@kera.org
Listen live: http://www.kera.org/audio

SOYLENT GREEN
March 9, 2009 9:29 am

The environmentalists say that the planet must be saved, but from whom and from what? “In reality”, the President commented, “we have to save it, and us, from them”.
Why can’t we elect guys like this?
Great work Anthony, I’ll be stealing more of it to pass along.

George E. Smith
March 9, 2009 9:39 am

“”” Neven (01:38:28) :
How many of those 800 people are below 50? Just curious.
I regularly notice that a lot of prominent skeptics are relatively old. And most old people I know (not all of them though) are quite entrenched in their patterns and beliefs, which makes them rather stubborn and inflexible. And especially when these relatively old, retired skeptics are being overly sarcastic, I sense a lack of wisdom, probably due to some personal bitterness. This for me has been one of the reasons to lean towards the AGW version of things.
So, I wonder: Are there a lot of old people at the conference? “””
Didn’t anybody ever tell you, Neven, that humans are born knowinbg everything about everything; “little knowitalls” they are called.
And as they get older and try out some of the stuff they know, they slowly get stupider and stupider, until they become old and senile and don’t know anything about anything. At that point the die, and leave it all to the next generation of knowitalls to slowly discover how dumb they are.
But if you want to attend next year’s conference; I’m sure the organizers are just too idiotic to keep you out; so you might as well go so you too can find out what is wrong with all of your knowledge that you need to forget.
George
PS I would have gone; but I actually have a working life and my boss expects me to keep working at forgetting the things I know will work, and concentrate on the things I can show him working.

John H
March 9, 2009 9:48 am

Neven,
Even if every single skeptic in various fields of science were older than 90 it would not make any difference in the science.
Your concern, or observation, is an inaccurate distraction that diverts your focus from the importance of grasping the fatally flawed IPCC/AGW theory.

BernardP
March 9, 2009 9:57 am

So….
When are we going to be able to read about this conference in mainstream media? A Sharon Begley article in Newsweek maybe? A front page story in the NY Times?
Maybe the media would have to report it if Barak Obama decided to pay a visit to the conference. 😉

JohnD
March 9, 2009 10:04 am

LOL Neven…
So are you saying don’t trust those who are snarky and old… like Hansen, and/or fat… like Gore?
Frankly, Boulder living has proven, through repeated experiences and trying multiple communication strategies, that mockery is a much more effective method than discourse, when confronted with control-mongering, narcissistic, neo-pagan Gaia fetishists.

Michael Ronayne
March 9, 2009 10:07 am

Over at the NY Times, Andrew Revkin is complaining that climate skeptics don’t have common ground on global warming. Earth to Andrew: we are skeptics not a religious cult like your mindless AGW followers.
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/skeptics-try-to-find-common-ground/
I posted the NASA links to their RFP on low Solar Cycle 23 activity and the NYT allowed the post this time; I have been rejected in the past. Here is the link:
http://community.nytimes.com/blogs/comments/dotearth/2009/03/08/skeptics-try-to-find-common-ground.html?permid=37#comment37
Let’s see if the NYT continues to ignore solar inactivity as they have for the last two years. Their science editors now know that NASA is looking into the issue.
Mike

Basil
Editor
March 9, 2009 10:08 am

Mary Hinge (04:57:19) :
Perhaps the conference would like to see the March 2009 temperature records, 597 new record highs and 150 tied highs.
Mary,
I just eyeballed the data in the link you posted, and it looks to me like the new highs are coming predominantly from regions that get warmer during La Nina’s, for example the SW. So they aren’t telling us anything, necessarily, about global warming, and in fact would be consistent with global cooling (i.e. increased frequency of La Nina’s). See here:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:La_Nina_regional_impacts.gif
What you’ve done, here, is sort of a spatial variation of cherry picking a start or stop date for time series analysis. Climate changes on all time scales, and at any point in time, you can find some place on earth that is doing what you want to show.
For a more spatially complete picture of the recent winter in the US, try this:
http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/data/usclimdivs/climdiv.pl?variab=Temperature&type=1&base=3&mon1=12&mon2=2&iy%5B1%5D=2008&iy%5B2%5D=&iy%5B3%5D=&iy%5B4%5D=&iy%5B5%5D=&iy%5B6%5D=&iy%5B7%5D=&iy%5B8%5D=&iy%5B9%5D=&iy%5B10%5D=&iy%5B11%5D=&iy%5B12%5D=&iy%5B13%5D=&iy%5B14%5D=&iy%5B15%5D=&iy%5B16%5D=&iy%5B17%5D=&iy%5B18%5D=&iy%5B19%5D=&iy%5B20%5D=&irange1=&irange2=&xlow=&xhi=&xint=&scale=&iwhite=1&Submit=Create+Plot
View the white areas as near normal, the blue-green areas as cooler than normal, and the yellow-orange areas as warmer than normal (with normal being the 1971-2000 climatology). Just eyeballing, it looks like about half the country had a “warm” winter, while the other half was “normal” or “colder than normal.”
Incidentally, this is not what NOAA predicted:
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/images/outlooktemp.jpg
NOAA completely missed the colder than normal winter across the northern tier of states, and their warmer than normal prognosis was for warmer weather further east and northeast than what actually transpired.
Back to the March records, we’re seeing a La Nina spring already here in the South. But the bet is that winter is not over, and we’ll see some more blasts of winter weather before it is all over.

Editor
March 9, 2009 10:13 am

George E. Smith (09:39:38) :

PS I would have gone; but I actually have a working life and my boss expects me to keep working at forgetting the things I know will work, and concentrate on the things I can show him working.

So that explains why when I write something down in a specifcation I completely
forget about it within weeks. Fortunately I haven’t forgotten to keep the
specs around during implementation and testing. I have read through some
old specs of mine that I had forgotten writing. Pity – they were quite good!
I endevour to forget no item of importance before its time.

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