Day 1 of the ICCC conference

UPDATE: see an additional report from Prof. Bob Carter below the “read more” line.

ALSO: See this announcement at Climate Audit

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I don’t have  a lot of time to blog about today’s conference. You can see the agenda here.

Highlights today: I spent about a half hour meeting with Steve McIntyre. Some improvements to the Climate Audit website will be coming soon. See this announcement at Climate Audit

Frequent contributor and moderator Evan Jones came by too. As always it is a pleasure to see him.

Attendance doubled from last year. 400 last year, 700 for the dinner tonight with another 100 tomorrow registered.

I shared a table tonight with John Coleman, Joe D’Aleo, Art Horn, Alexandre Aguiar of Metsul Brazil, James Waters, Peter Leavitt, and Steve McIntyre. The presentations from Vaclav Klaus and from Richard Lindzen were enlightening. I particularly liked Lindzen’s presentation and I hope to have a copy to share here. UPDATE: His speech is here

Despite what critics have said about the conference, it was well attended by a wide variety of people from the US, Canada, Britain, and the EU. A number of elected officials were in attendance. Tomorrow Congressman Tom McClintock from California will be speaking. For those that stick by the tired old fallacy that the conference is funded by “Big Oil” to that I say you are quite wrong. Rebuttal here and list of sponsors

I discovered that WUWT has quite a following, and I was mobbed by people after the dinner presentation. It was an odd feeling.

UPDATE: Professor Bob Carter also has a nice account which I’m reposting here:

Heartland-2: session one

by Bob Carter

March 9, 2009

President Vaclav Klaus reports latest poll from the Czech Republic: only 11% of people believe that man has a significant influence in warming the climate.

West Australian Joanne Nova’s Climate Skeptics Handbook launched, and a 150,000 print run announced.

“We will win this debate”, says Dr Richard Lindzen, “for we are right and they are wrong”.

The opening session of the Heartland-2 Conference opened with a bang here in Manhattan tonight [Sunday evening March 8, 2009]. With registrations of around 700 persons, the conference is almost twice the size of its predecessor last year. The audience for the two opening plenary talks, held over dinner, included an eclectic mixture of scientists, engineers, economists, policy specialists, government representatives and media reporters. 

In welcoming delegates, and opening the conference, President of the Heartland Institute Joe Bast also launched two new publications. The first, by Anthony Watts, is a summary of his extensive studies of the weather stations at which U.S. surface temperatures are measured (“Is the U.S. Surface Temperature Record Reliable”), which have revealed that many stations are scandalously poorly sited for their intended purpose. The second, “The Skeptic’s Handbook”, by Joanne Nova from West Australia, is a succinct and well illustrated briefing paper that summarizes accurately the evidence against dangerous human-caused warming in a humorous and easily understood format.

The first Plenary Address was given by President Vaclav Klaus, who is President of both the Czech Republic and (for a 6 month current term) the European Union. His talk was greeted, both before and after, with standing ovations. 

In response to a question, he reported a just-released Czech poll, which shows that only 11% of persons questioned in a recent poll believe that man has a significant influence in warming the global climate.

The President commenced his talk by commenting that little change had occurred in the global warming debate since his talk, 12 months earlier, at the Heartland-1 conference. He likened the situation to his former experience under communist government, where arguing against the dominant viewpoint falls into emptiness. No matter how high the quality of the arguments and evidence that you advance against the dangerous warming idea, nobody listens, and by even advancing skeptical arguments you are dismissed as a naïve and uninformed person.

The environmentalists say that the planet must be saved, but from whom and from what? “In reality”, the President commented, “we have to save it, and us, from them”.

Klaus reported his discouragement at participating in meetings with other senior politicians at Davos and within the EC. Here, he finds that not one other head of state who will make common cause in support of a rational assessment of the scientific evidence. Instead, all believe that the summaries provided by the IPCC represent the scientific “truth” on global warming.

But the climate data do not support the theory of human causation; the IPCC summaries therefore do not represent science, but instead environmental politics and activism. As a result, large and highly organized rent seeking bureaucracies and groups have emerged, and they further propagate the climate alarmism that is now in their self-interest.

President Klaus professed to be puzzled by the environmentalists’ approach to technical progress. It as if they “want to stop economic progress and take mankind centuries back”, he said. Applying their ethic of “saving the world”, western electorates are being asked for the first time in history to abandon successful current technologies before new technologies have been developed to replace them. Klaus stressed that there is no known, feasible way in which modern technological society can be run based on present sources of renewable, clean, green energy.

The second Plenary Address was delivered by Dr Richard Lindzen of MIT, an acknowledged world leader in atmospheric physics and a doyen of meteorological science.

Dr Lindzen started by making the important observation that being skeptical about dangerous human-caused global warming does not make one a good scientist, and nor does endorsing global warming necessarily make one a bad scientist.

He then pointed out the professional difficulties that are raised for many skeptics when scientists whose research they respect nonetheless endorse global warming. In most such cases, however, the science that such persons do is not about global warming in the strict sense. It’s just that supporting global warming makes their life, and especially their funding life, easier.

Thus, it is a particular problem for young scientists to oppose the prevailing alarmist orthodoxy, because to do so is to cruel their chances of receiving research funding. For as long as it is the AGW spin that attracts the research funds, for so long will there be a strong disincentive for most scientists to question the hypothesis in public.

Lindzen commented that the politicization of the AGW issue has had an extraordinarily corrupting influence on science. Most funding that goes to global warming would not be provided were it not for the climate scare. It has therefore become standard to include in any research proposal the effect of presumed AGW on your topic, quite irrespective of whether it has any real relevance or not.

Lindzen asserted that it boils down to a matter of scientific logic against authority. The global warming movement has skilfully co-opted sources of authority, such as the IPCC and various scientific academies. For instance, over a period of 20 years, the US Academy of Science has had a backdoor route for the election of environmentalists as Members of the Academy. The success of this tactic is indicated by the fact that the current President of the Academy (Ralph Cicerone) was elected that way and is a strong environmentalist.

But in giving an endorsement of alarm about climate change, the NAS, as well as similar societies in other countries, has never polled their own expert membership. Rather, the pro-alarm policy statements that are issued by various professional societies express the views of only the activist few, who often control the governing Council.

Despite the manifold problems of combating the alarmist climate message, Dr Lindzen concluded his talk with the rousing observation that in time the climate rationalist cause will win. “When it comes to global warming hysteria”, he said, “neither gross ignorance nor even grosser dishonesty has been in short supply. But we will win this debate, for we are right and they are wrong”.

During an extended question and answer session after the conclusion of the two plenary addresses, Drs Klaus and Lindzen were in close agreement about two things.

The first, is that global warming hysteria is being fomented as part of an environmentalist ideology; it is a politically organized movement. The grip that this hysteria now has on public opinion is explained partly by the fact that there is no equivalent, politically organized movement to mount a defense of sound science. Instead, there is simply a collection of persons who are united mainly by their common affront at the gross abuse of science that is going on.

The second common viewpoint was expressed in response to the question “What arguments are the most effective to promulgate the skeptics’ cause of building policy, not on authority, IPCC or otherwise, but on sound science”.

Both President Klaus and Dr Lindzen agreed that the most important arguments were (i) that sound science demonstrates that human increases in carbon dioxide are not going to cause dangerous global warming, and (ii) that a thorough cost-benefit analysis must be applied to all potential policy options.

For those on all sides of the argument accept that the Kyoto Protocol, despite its high cost, will do nothing towards measurably reducing global temperature; and the public need to be informed that the same is true also for the more ambitious carbon dioxide cuts mooted under cap and trade legislation. If taxpayers are to fund the operation, then it is only fair that they be told that the considerable pain, which will run to many trillions of dollars, will be for no measurable gain.

It was not expected that new science would be presented at the opening Plenary Session of Heartland-2. What participants got, instead, were inspirational messages delivered by two inspirational leaders of the climate rationalist cause.

Bob Carter

Bob Carter’s preliminary article on Heartland-2 here

SOURCES:

The full text of President Klaus’ speech will be posted on the websites of the Climate Science Coalition:

http://www.climatescienceinternational.org/

http://www.nzclimatescience.org/

http://www.auscsc.org.au/

As this article went to press, an account of the Heartland-2 meeting by Andrew Revkin appeared in the New York Times. Reading it is an interesting exercise in spot-the-spin.

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March 9, 2009 4:52 am

Neven (01:38:28) :

How many of those 800 people are below 50? Just curious.
I regularly notice that a lot of prominent skeptics are relatively old.

That’s because a lot of us old fogies remember the weather from the 1960s & 1970s. A few might remember the 1930s. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone here remembers the Medieval Warm Period. 🙂

mercurior
March 9, 2009 4:56 am

i am 35, and i was taught to learn by my father. not to just blindly accept dogma. Not like today in schools, which are politicalised, and edited to find the “current” policies of the governments.
The problem is for the last few years, younger people are being told this is true, in the schools and the press, and they are not being given the entire knowledge.
Thats why this site is brilliant it gives the information to everyone, sometimes its a little hard to understand. Thats why its such a great place. Some very clever people here (i know how dumb i am and these people just blow me away).
So keep up the good work, i tell everyone i know about this site even put it on my blog. to spread the word.

Mary Hinge
March 9, 2009 4:57 am

Perhaps the conference would like to see the March 2009 temperature records, 597 new record highs and 150 tied highs. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/records/index.php?ts=daily&elem=maxt&month=3&day=0&year=2009&submitted=Get+Records
Figures like these (but showing cold temperature records) caused great excitement….funny …all quiet now.
REPLY: I’m sure we’d be happy to Mary. Now if you can just convince James Hansen and Gavin Schmidt to get off their high horses and walk a few blocks from Columbia and attend (they’ve been invited, standing invitation remains) we’ll have a REAL debate. – Anthony

Aron
March 9, 2009 5:10 am

“How many AGW proponents are under 50? Just curious.”
I was in my 20s when I believed in manmade global warming. It wasn’t until I was 33 that I realised it was bull. It takes time to study these things so it is natural that young people get suckered into believing whatever the media and celebs tells them is virtuous.

March 9, 2009 5:30 am

Just being right is not enough. There is a higher truth based on what is best for people.
It is best to just think, talk, and do as we are told. It is very disturbing to see these people questioning their betters. Hopefully, no one will pay any attention.

CuckooToo
March 9, 2009 5:30 am

Thus, it is a particular problem for young scientists to oppose the prevailing alarmist orthodoxy, because to do so is to cruel their chances of receiving research funding. For as long as it is the AGW spin that attracts the research funds, for so long will there be a strong disincentive for most scientists to question the hypothesis in public.

Perhaps MORI or similar should be asked to organise a completely anonymous survey amongst scientists to find out exactly how big the “consensus” is? I don’t mean a “sign the petition” type thing, but a poll sent out to all climate scientists and the like, regardless of whether or not they have a stated position on AGW.
I’ll bet that would be a shock to the system.

DAV
March 9, 2009 5:33 am

TonyS (04:39:01) : If anybody has access (I don’t):FALSIFICATION OF THE ATMOSPHERIC CO2 GREENHOUSE EFFECTS WITHIN THE FRAME OF PHYSICS
GERHARD GERLICH; RALF D. TSCHEUSCHNER>/i>
Try here:
http://arxiv.org/abs/0707.1161
Click in the upper right hand corner
This direct link may work:
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0707/0707.1161v4.pdf

March 9, 2009 5:37 am

Thanks to Jepe (03:05:19) for the link to Prof. Richard Lindzen’s keynote address.
It is well worth reading, it’s not very long, and it contains lots of information like this:

The process of co-opting science on behalf of a political movement has had an extraordinarily corrupting influence on science — especially since the issue has been a major motivation for funding… most science funded under the rubric of climate does not actually deal with climate, but rather with the alleged impact of arbitrarily assumed climate change.
All impacts depend on regional forecasts, and quoting the leading scientist at the European Centre for Medium Range Weather Forecasting (widely regarded as the foremost atmospheric modeling center), Tim Palmer, such forecasts are no better than guesses. Nonetheless, regional forecasts are at the heart of numerous state initiatives to ‘fight’ climate change. These initiatives are usually prepared by the Center for Climate Strategies (CCS), a Pennsylvania-based environmental advocacy group that purports to help states determine for themselves how to develop climate change policies… CCS tightly controls these commissions, who consider proposals mostly from a menu of options presented by CCS themselves. Nearly all the choices represent new taxes or higher prices on energy, increased costs of government, new regulations for businesses, and reduced energy-producing options for utilities, and therefore consumers. CCS is funded largely by a multi-million-dollar global warming alarmist foundation, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund.

So there you have it, from one who sees what’s going on from the inside. Alarmists have gained control of U.S. policy for their own devious reasons.
This relatively small group of people, lavishly funded by foundations with a known AGW agenda, have managed to game the system — and the multitude of rank-and-file professionals are deliberately kept silent; they pay their membership dues in return for professional recognition, but their professional scientific opinions regarding AGW are never see the light of day within those organizations that purport to represent them.
The success of this conference is largely due to those professionals who are tired of being used and spoken for, and who willingly take risks by speaking out; and even by the defiant act of simply attending this conference. Kudos to them for having the courage to do the right thing.

Brian N
March 9, 2009 5:41 am

Anybody catch this hatchet job? Saw it linked on Hot Air blog.
NYT article
If I didn’t post this correctly, you’ll have to paste it in–my apologies.

Pierre Gosselin
March 9, 2009 5:49 am

“Gave Schmidt and James Hansen were invited also. They only have to walk 10 blocks or so from Columbia U. ”
Can we blame them?
After all, how dare we challenge their science? The utter gall of us flat-earthers!
Yet, Gavin Schmidt and Hansen actually have the opportunity to attend a climate conference without even having to board a climate killing airline or private jet – without leaving a carbon foortprint.
You should have mentioned that in their invitation. 🙂

Bob Montle
March 9, 2009 5:51 am

Mary Hinge: “Perhaps the conference would like to see the March 2009 temperature records, 597 new record highs and 150 tied highs. ”
Ah, but Mary, haven’t you seen the stations documented in Anthony’s “surfacestations”?
I wonder how many of the new record highs are from sensors located a few feet from heated buildings, car exhaust or on rocks or asphalt? I have seen many such sites which artificially inflate the temperature readings. Can you show me any sites where the local environment near a station reduces the temperature?

J Bob
March 9, 2009 6:12 am

DJ
Last week National Ice center reported Lake Superior is virtually iced over again. 2nd time in 6 years, (normally every 20-30 years). Hope to warm up soon. Heating bill up again this year. Send warm air up here PLEASE.

Roger
March 9, 2009 6:18 am

Mary Hinge
This may come as a surprise to you but there are other parts of the globe apart from the USA. Some are even big enough to be called continents, yet others are called oceans. For example here in the UK the CET anomoly March 2009 is -0.14.

pyromancer76
March 9, 2009 6:19 am

Congratulations, Anthony, for the fame of the best science blog and your recognition at the Conference. You have made it possible for many other scientists and weather-researchers to become famous, too.
Some “fortune” should follow. I am a regular subscriber (monthly donation) because my reading here is as good as it gets for me. I hope others do the same, in addition to adding to the tip jar occasionally — or adding a weather station to their humble abodes.
Some “fortune” is also necessary for an upgrade to Climate Audit. I hope it is permissible for me to mention this here:
“Climate Audit has become an important repository of data, with links to posts and content made from thousands of websites worldwide, to lose it would be a tragedy.”
The suggestion is that if 100 people donate $20 each, the upgrade will be paid for. I am sending an additional $20. How many others will join me?
I look forward to as much Conference information as possible that you and other contributors can make available at WUWT. Thanks again.

Bill in Vigo
March 9, 2009 6:22 am

Heartland Institute has offered a great forum for debate on the climate change. There is great opportunity for meetings of the minds on the issue and it would be a great thing if the proponents of the opposing hypothesis could be there to present their positions before an unbiased group of individuals. The funding for the event is most impressive especially with no government funding to speak of.
Neven, I am soon to be 59 years old and I suspect that I have paid more dues to experience that has helped to form my thought process. I am very independent minded and read much varied reports. I look at both arguments and make my own mind. Having had to make my own way and provide for my family by hard work and persistence I expect others to have many of the same traits, IE hard work, independent thought, reading and study of the events, unemotional thought process. Yes Neven I am a skeptic, I became one due to the fact that the alarmists will for the most part not reveal their data, method, and collection methods. Science must be open to inspection and replication if not it is just speculation and has little value other than opinions and we all have those. I agree with you that most of the attendees at the conference are more than likely over the age of 50. But do not dispare I suspect that your AGW great icons are over 50 also. ( Dr. Hansen and VEEP Gore for example)
TonyB, I completely agree with you in your analisis.
Pat, more squids of the coast of California is a good thing. I love calimari so that is a very good thing.
Anthony please keep up the good work and keep us informed in the progress of the conference. This is a very importnt work. And you do it so well. You are an example to the rest of us.
Bill Derryberry

Steve Keohane
March 9, 2009 6:26 am

Mary Hinge (04:57:19) Using a temperature measuring system biased high several degrees F will obviously set record highs, it is just the results that the system is set up to produce. Minimize rural stations, make the sensors be no more than 10′ from a building, mount it on a rooftop, pave under it, place it next to a heat source, etc. It is just like writing a climate modeling program on a computer with only the variables you want, never mind it doesn’t have all the variables of climate or the ‘forcings’ have the wrong sign, it gives the right answer to control and tax the population.

March 9, 2009 6:26 am

Mary Hinge (04:57:19) : said;
“Perhaps the conference would like to see the March 2009 temperature records, 597 new record highs and 150 tied highs. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/records/index.php?ts=daily&elem=maxt&month=3&day=0&year=2009&submitted=Get+Records
Figures like these (but showing cold temperature records) caused great excitement….funny …all quiet now.”
You wonder why skeptics believe figures are doctored then point us to a site purporting to show us records for a month that hasn’t even happened yet?
What are their records going to be for the next 12 month? It would be useful to know in advance so we can plan our holidays. 🙂
TonyB

Editor
March 9, 2009 6:28 am

DAV (05:33:01) :

TonyS (04:39:01) : If anybody has access (I don’t):FALSIFICATION OF THE ATMOSPHERIC CO2 GREENHOUSE EFFECTS WITHIN THE FRAME OF PHYSICS
GERHARD GERLICH; RALF D. TSCHEUSCHNER
Try here:
http://arxiv.org/abs/0707.1161
Click in the upper right hand corner

Hmm, I’ve recently started year 2 of this accursed “obession” about climate science, and one thing I want to do is spend less time debating warmists (we have plenty of people who can do that on both sides) and more time with numbers and equations. Especially related to IR radiation and CO2 reradiation.
A 100 page paper may be a bit much, but it comes with a lot of explanatory text.
It looks like readers will also want a response to an earlier version:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/0802.4324 :
Proof of the Atmospheric Greenhouse Effect
AP Smith – Arxiv preprint arXiv:0802.4324, 2008 – arxiv.org
… is designed to clearly and accurately respond to recent claims 1 that a
physics-based analysis can “falsify” the atmospheric greenhouse effect. …

March 9, 2009 6:37 am

Mary Hinge: “Perhaps the conference would like to see the March 2009 temperature records, 597 new record highs and 150 tied highs. ”
Ah, but Mary, haven’t you seen the stations documented in Anthony’s “surfacestations”?
I wonder how many of the new record highs are from sensors located a few feet from heated buildings, car exhaust or on rocks or asphalt? I have seen many such sites which artificially inflate the temperature readings. Can you show me any sites where the local environment near a station reduces the temperature?
Sorry… forgot to say great post – can’t wait to read your next one!

March 9, 2009 6:42 am

Mary
On a more serious note to my 06 26 20, I have checked through some of them.
Can you help and tell me when the individual data sets commenced as some seem fairly recent. Also why they do not correlate with other weather data, why are they from ‘Selected’ cities and lastly has any one here got any data as to whch of them have as yet been surveyed by Anthony?
One off hot records are as meaningful as one off cold ones, so I don’t get too excited by them, although admittedly some of my friends here do seem to place great store over one off events 😉
Thanks for your time.
TonyB

matt v.
March 9, 2009 6:56 am

Anthony
I agree with the first speaker at the conference that we need to have perseverance . Angus Reid Monitor reported on a recent survey of Americans by RASMUSSEN REPORTS. Here is what they found . Notice the steady increase in those who believe that long term planetary trends are behind global warming, THE SKEPTICS ARE NOW THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS 44%
Is global warming caused primarly by human activity or by long term planetary trends ?
Human activity
41% jan 2009
43% dec 2008
47% april 2008
Long term planetary trends
44% jan 2009
43% dec 2008
34% april 2008

timbrom
March 9, 2009 7:13 am

Pat
“On Australian news tonight, additional CO2 absorbed by the oceans (Making it like a “soda” apparently) is now responsible for micro-oganisms building thinner shells. There was an image shown how these shells were before the industrial revolution and now. It get’s better all the time!”
One begins to despair! So they reckon that having more calcium carbonate in the water makes the animals create thinner shells. Holy cow!

Just Want Truth...
March 9, 2009 7:17 am

Vaclav Klaus and Richard Lindzen on opening night–there are not be two better people on earth to open! All of AGW with its 1000’s of politicians and 100’s of scientist to chose from could never top them!

March 9, 2009 7:25 am

You’re a star! Next thing you’ll be dating Madonna!!!!
Just kidding. You’ve always been a star to me.
Mike D. – Hands Off… He’s Mine!!!! 🙂