Voting closed TODAY Jan 13 at 5PM Eastern, 2PM Pacific time.
Preliminary ending numbers are available here
Thanks to everyone who participated. The results won’t be final until reviewed by the judges/operators. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming. – Anthony
Bob D (18:58:48) :
That wasn’t my comment. I think you meant the comment in front of mine: Jeff Alberts (18:40:24) :
Just a question. Has any catastrophic environmental prediction based on computer models been validated? That’s meant with all sincerity and not a snarky comment. I’m actually curious. The ones I’m familiar with such as the Club of Rome failed, but their should be some positive examples to learn from.
“Pharyngula”
OT, the term “Pharyngula” connotes and even denotes to me “A Deep Throating Apparatus [Pharynx or Tongue] or its Recipient [Pharynx or Tongue]”.
I’m often intrigued with the way these Progressives name themselves. Apparently, they are just waiting for the right way to fit in the Phalynx.
Congrats, Anthony! Well deserved. It doesn’t seem all that long ago that you were attracting only 15-25 comments per thread, and seemed to hold somewhat of a local Chico audience. Look at it now.
There’s a lot to be said for your success – clearly, there is an “attention market” for science-related content that is understandable by all, well moderated, and displays patience with all who post unless they wear out their welcome. It’s a pleasure to be part of this audience.
I can use appropriate capitalization, if necessary. 🙂
Well, Capitalization does have a purpose which has nothing to do with being Authoritarian. Or are you going to abandon all of the other oppressive rules involved with using written words in order to communicate, you know, such as spelling correctly, for example?
I should have added Anthony.
Congratulations. If you’ve not won, I will be screaming fix lol
If anyone knows, is there a site used by GISS or UAE within about 50 miles of Newcastle on Tyne GB?
I could do with a day out with my digital camera. You have my email so I’m easily contactable.
DaveE.
BarryW — predicted environmental disasters
I also read Club of Rome in undergrad around 1973 or so, and noted that none of its dire predictions even came close. Except for the recent economic crisis, which some could argue was predicted by CoR. I think it was unrelated. We certainly did not run out of food, or water, or minerals, or die in our own pollution.
Another prediction that could have come true was the Acid Rain and killing all the lake fish – but the enviros claim victory by heading that one off with regulations to curb SOx and NOx emissions.
They also claim some sort of victory on Ozone and CFC’s, again by regulations banning them. I think the DDT ban would also qualify.
Among many other things, they got lead banned from gasoline and paint, mercury banned from just about everything, at least some asbestos was banned but not all, and they got catalytic converters installed on cars and now (at least in California) on trucks, too. They got smoking banned in indoor workplaces and restaurants and bars in California, and some other places now. They got vapor recovery nozzles installed on gas station pumps, at least in some places.
Their claim is that a lot of lives were saved, and the earth was protected. I have not read all the enabling legislation on these, but almost always they start out by dire predictions of consequences if the law is not passed.
A very recent one is the imminent demise of the polar bears, those lovable white critters that are now on the endangered species list. That may be an example of a prediction not coming true.
Don’t know if this helps, or was what you seek, but there’s my two cents!
Roger E. Sowell
Marina del Rey, California
Great result and of course congratulations to Anthony on the win (provisional) and for providing us with this very informative site.
Interesting isn’t it the conjunction of the weather (climate?) turning cold and the collapse of the world economies and the effect this has on the funding of the AGW proponents. This is where a poll such as Anthony has just won is so important for it is the average taxpayer that is funding all those “oh so important” scientists in the Govt. institutions that seem to be turning against the AGW case.
If I were a scientist in one of those institutions I would be getting all my debts payed off quick smart.
Also can’t but help notice the similarities between the AGW crowd and the Neo Classical economists and their reliance on dodgy models.
Woe is us if they both hold sway!
Halcyon
BenjaminP – Of course I have an answer for you. This being a science blog, I would prefer to discuss politics/philosophy in the proper forum. Mine is a little more simplistic explanation as Guy’s but along the same lines. BTW this is the same view held by Clas Vaclav, the Polish president and he has articulated it many times.
Also, I do not disagree with you about renewable fuels. What I am against is the attempts to for the natural order of progression. I think we have seen time and time and time again is that throwing large sums of government (ie yours and my tax dollars) at altruistic goals rarely yields more than empty promises. When there is a real economic drive (not artificially inflated by government dollars), then true, viable, alternatives will be developed. But we have decades of cheap “fossil fuels” to exploit in the meantime.
If you have a forum you wish to discuss the political issues, let me know I will follow you there.
God Bless,
bwanan
We Are the Champions, my friends . . .
Congratulations Anthony on a well-deserved win.
I regularly frequent Steve McIntyre’s site for its continuing demonstration that scientific measurements without good statistics can result in very poor science. I also read Roger Pielke Sr’s site for its great climate reviews of recent climate-science studies, especially those associated with land-use changes – close to my own current field. However, I find WUWT to be the most interesting site because of the breadth of its articles. Both your articles and guest posts are always worthwhile, along with the comments of your readers. Two recent posts by Steven Goddard and Bob Tisdale were first class and thought provoking.
The other major attraction to your site for me has been your own research project (Surface Stations). As an old-school scientist, I was taught that bad data is worse than no data, since it may, inevitably be actually used. As my own work has been in biological oceanography and latterly river-water chemistry, I have always understood the importance of careful and relevant calibration of instruments.
Hence, your exposure of the problems with temperature measurements in the US has been eye-opening. From your work, it seems that the change from the old, Stephenson-box manual system to modern, cable-linked automated systems has been accompanied by the throwing of siting considerations out the window. Coupled with adjustments by GISS that seem at least illogical and against the likely trend of increasing urban, heat-island effects, the surface stations data now seem hard to believe, at least completely. I’m sure that similar issues will be found with HadCrut stations. Of course, you must realise that the more questionable stations you expose, the less relevant that these data will become. However, it is necessary to be critical of these records, if they are to be improved, which they must be if we are to measure real trends.
You must publish your results in scientific journals ASAP. You would have many papers’ worth by now. Once again, congratulations for a great site.
REPLY: Thank you for the kind words. – Anthony
Yay for us!!! Anthony clearly deserves credit for “borning” this blog and for all his hard work in station surveys. I love anything to do with weather so this site is better than a Friday night date at the movies anytime. By the way, if you overlay the cryosphere today pic of ice extent http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/ with the Arctic Jet stream pic http://squall.sfsu.edu/crws/jetstream.html with the Arctic SST pic http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/sst/ophi/color_anomaly_NPS_ophi0.png the Arctic ice behavior over the past few days can be easily explained.
Congratulations Anthony from McLaren Vale, South Australia!
A well deserved victory.
And hopefully the trolls from Pharyngula will descend back into the caves from whence they arose. They give atheists a bad name!
nichole (07:22:23) :
why liberals don’t like polls: self-selected popularity contests are not a judge of anything’s quality.
Absolutely right. That’s why liberals don’t like the Academy Awards.
Anyway, self-selected congrats to us all.
Well that was just silly.
Forgot to add the basic one: The fairly stable Arctic oceanic currents at
http://www.aquatic.uoguelph.ca/oceans/ArticOceanWeb/Currents/climate.htm
Peter (14:42:45) : wrote:
Congratulations and well done! From the only AGW sceptic in Berkeley!
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How presumptuous is that Peter ?? I’m across the border in the Oakland Hills, but I have several friends over there who are not lemming zombies. Maybe I should hook you up.
Congratulations Anthony from a very warm N. California. The good news is that my grapevines think it’s Spring. The bad news is that it isn’t !!!
I can use appropriate capitalization, if necessary. 🙂
So, then, please be so kind as to enlighten us as to what constitutes your rules for “appropriate capitalization”.
Dear, or rather …dear nichole i am a liberal alltheist and I lurv this site
(that was not a typo)
Good one!
Congratulations to WUWT, ya’ got my votes.
Still looks like NCEP NCAR snow cover has decide to permanently forget about the past so you can’t compare anymore re: huge + snow anomaly NH
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/snow/ been like this for 2 weeks now
Rotfl! Then why was there such a concerted effort to win at the last second by the pharyngulites (Pharyngulites: One who suffers from Pharyngulitis)? Apparently they only like them when they win.
Sorry about that “blockquote” close error.
Reply: It was a WordPress glitch. Fixed. ~dbstealey, mod.
Jeff Alberts (18:38:57) :
All bets are off, I’d say, since we don’t know if nichole is even a woman to begin with.
RECORD OF THE WEATHER IN PHILADELPHIA
1790 The average or medium temperature of this month was 44 degrees This is the mildest month of January on record Fogs prevailed very much in the morning but a hot sun soon dispersed them and the mercury often ran up to 70 in the shade at mid day Boys were often seen swimming in the Delaware and Schuylkill rivers There were frequent showers as in April some of which were accompanied by thunder and lightning The uncommon mildness of the weather continued until the 7th of February A Meteorological Account of the Weather in Philadelphia From January 1, 1790, to January 1, 1847, Including Fifty-seven Years ; with an Appendix Containing a Great Variety of Interesting Information … By Charles Peirce