Chill in the air: record low temps in 10 states

KIm,
please refer to material other than climateaudit, you’re only embarrasing yourself now. As for the graph try and aquire the skill of ‘joining the dots’. Youy are just showing the talents of rejecting data because it goes against your beliefs. I also do not have contempt for skeptics, I appreciate their comments and though they sometimes drive me mad (and I assume vice versa!)it gives us an opportunity to learn more. Most of the posters here are skptics. You are not a skeptic , you are just trotting out the usual garbage without at least an ounce of knowledge of the subject you are discussing, you fall into the camp for extreme cases such as yourself, a full blown denier. Try and learn what a ‘trend’ is for a start.
Do you fully understand what a PDO is and how it affects global temperature, not just USA temperatures? The PDO itself doesn’t affect global temperatures, it’s how it affects the ENSO that determines global temperatures. It was the La nina earlier this year/last year
that caused global temperatures to falls lightly, now that effect is diminished we are seeing lower troposphere temperatures rise (as Flanagan pointed out earlier).
Mike (07:51:22) :
You yourself should have looked at what Flanagan was referring to, not the cherrypicked link supplied by Steve Berry. he admitted he tried them all but only selected the high altitude readings that support his faith. The GW models show that the lower troposphere temperatures will rise while the upper atmospheric temperatures will fall, this is happening. Flanagan was also pinpointing that the reading is for NOW, not the rest of this year which we know was cooled slightly by La Nina.
Mike (07:51:22) :
Mary, it’s interesting how you automatically supported Flanagan without apparently looking at the numbers. You even threw in your standard ad hominem attack
We’ve established the numbers were looked at, I looked at what Flanagan was saying, you obviously didn’t. I certainly didn’t throw in an ‘Ad hominem’ attack. It was actually an observation. QED I have been shown to be right! I suggest you look up the definition, or of you want to see it described in its purest form read any of Kim’s posts.
Warning: Lets all take the sarcasm and personal digs down a notch. – Dee

London has first October snow in over 70 years.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/oct/29/weather-london

@Mary Hinge and Flanagan.
I was of the impression that climate models predict the warming trend to be steepest at around 250 mb/hPa, about 50% steeper than at the surface. You seem to disagree??
Please provide a reference to your claims that temperatures at 250 mb (altitude 36.000 ft) are predicted by models to fall like they seem to do:
http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/execute.csh?amsutemps+004

Mary Hinge (09:03:57) More projection; I have attacked your points and you have attacked me. For examples of the ad hominem fallacy, your posts are full of them and mine not.
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Basil, like I said…straws and grasping! If there’s warming, then it’s warming. If there’s cooling then it’s weather, oh unless it’s noise. A trend is applicable if it suits AGW, but too short if it doesn’t. A freak weather event is indicative of climate change – even though there have always been freak weather events. A freak weather event of a cooling nature is indicative of extreme weather being caused by climate change. Adjustment of data will result in warming. Arctic or Antarctic melt is to be publicised as proof of AGW. Arctic or Antarctic ice build is actually caused by climate change, and is predicted in the models. Sea level rise is due to warming oceans. Sea level falls are indicative that the warming is being stored and will result in even worse sea level rises in the near future. Finally, rising temperatures are due to AGW. Falling temperatures are merely masking underlying rising temperatures which will rebound with a vengeance.
You can’t win. The Marys of this world will do their best to see to that.

Hi there,
I’m not excited about a 1-week trend. Since the end of la nina, global temperatures keep increasing. So, we’re basically at the same temperature as last year rightnow. We’ll see in 2009 what’s going to happen, but since the solar cycle (finally) seems to have started, we should see a nice increase.
The global circulation models (which are not “mine” by the way) predict troposphere warming and a “hot spot” a little above it, as can be read in the IPCC report or (if you prefer blogs) at Real Climate. This trend is confirmed by measurements, even at the tropics where people thought for some time that the hot spot was not present. References available upon request.

Mary Hinge (02:02:36) You make yourself foolish when you keep repeating that there will be no La Nina these coming eight months when the NOAA CFS ensemble graph clearly shows a nice dip of the curve well into next year. Why don’t you refer to that graph? It puts a lie to all your confabulating efforts. I know it’s a projection, and this SH summer may well have an ENSO that is neutral, but the NOAA’s one picture is much more convincing than all your thousands of words. Is that why you won’t follow my reference?
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Flanagan (01:05:17) Sorry to be so snide, but I was fresh from commenting with Phil. and Mary Hinge. Whether the sun is entering a minimum like the Dalton or Maunder, and whether or not that is connected to global temperatures is not determined, yet, and may not ever become predictable, but that has little to do with Cycle 24 starting back up. The sun cycles, seemingly inevitably, whether it is in a minimum or a maximum or in between. The questions of the energy it puts out depend on cycle length and strength, but a good correlation with earth’s temperatures is yet to be shown.
Most of we sunworshippers trust, not know, that the sun does regulate the globe’s climate. I believe the mechanism by which it does is modulated through clouds, maybe and maybe not cosmic rays, and the oceanic oscillations. Figuring out the precise mechanisms is beyond human understanding, but perhaps not for much longer.
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One source for GCM implementation: mitgcm.org. Have another pint and look it over.
The little brown and black catepillars are banded to half their length. I say La Nina is returning by the end of Nov.

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In case we’ll have a stable climate the political bandwagon claims which claims that the western world must stop its industries may rephrase it as Climate Something…