Chill in the air: record low temps in 10 states

As many readers know, we’ve had an earlier than normal start to fall weather in the USA, and the cold just keeps on coming. Here is a summary of record low temperatures seen recently, courtesy of this website called IceAgeNow.

Record Lows – 2008

Record low temperatures in the United States

click here to see 2003, 2002, 2001 and 2000

Click here to see 2005, 20042005, 2006, 2007

See a table of some October 2008 temps below:

Date

City

Degrees

Fahrenheit

Oct 24

Record low

Montague, CA

Traverse City, MI  Breaks old record of 24 set in 1976

Islip, NY  31 tie

Pocatello, ID  Ties previous record set in 1949

.

26

22

31 tie

18 tie

Oct 24

Record rainfall

Pensacola, FL—3.3”

Columbus, GA—2.00”

Macon, GA—2.51” Breaks old record of 2.00” set in 1919

Oct 23

Record low temperatures in 10 states!

Rome, OR  Breaks old record of 20 set in 1980

Caribou, ME   Breaks old record of 21 set in 1982

Winslow, AZ

Traverse City, MI  Breaks old record of 24 set in 1976

Grand Junction, CO  Breaks old record of 26 set in 1996

Hilo, HI

Childress, TX

Seattle, WA

Bountiful, UT

Burley, ID

Idaho Falls, ID  Breaks old record of 18 set in 1958

Challis, ID

Pendleton, OR

Union, OR  Breaks previous record of 20 set in 1980

Walla Walla, WA

Thanks to Chuck Clancy for this info

.

15

20

21 tie

22

23

64 tie

34 tie

39 tie

28 tie

21 tie

17

17 tie

29 tie

17

32 tie

Oct 23

Record snow

A record snowfall of trace was set at Dodge City, KS today. Ties old record set in 2002.

Oct 23

Wettest October on record in Dodge City, KS

4.97 inches of rain as of today, breaking the previous record of 4.94 inches set in 1997

Wettest October on record in Hastings, NE

6.16 inches of rain as of today, breaking the record of 5.82 inches set 111 years ago in 1897

Wettest October on record in Kearney, NE

9.21 inches or rain as of today, breaking the old record of 6.30 inches set in 1946

Kearney may be headed for the wettest year on record

Total precipitation in Kearny so far this year stands at 35.48 inches. With more than two months remaining in the year, this total accumulation already ranks 2008 as the 5th wettest year ever in Kearney, where the all-time record annual rainfall stands at 40.07 inches.

Oct 23

Record rainfall

Lincoln, NE— 2.01”

Oct 22

Record rainfall

Houston, TX—3/70”   Breaks old record of 2.40 inches set in 1920

Oct 23

First snow of the season in Colorado and Nebraska – A vigorous storm pushed southeast and out of the Rockies on Tuesday night, dumping around 20cm (8inches) of snow across parts of Colorado.

Yesterday the storm continued to bring a wintry mix of weather and strong winds across the Central Plains. In O’Neill, Nebraska, snow fell during most of the day.

On Wednesday, Ottawa also saw its first snow of the season. There were also reports of snow across many northeastern states, including parts of New York and Pennsylvania.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/world/news/23102008news.shtml

Oct 22

Record lows

Marquette, MI

Rome, OR

Traverse City, MI  Breaks old record of 26 set in 1955

Alpena, MI

Bryce Canyon, UT

Pocatello, ID

.

21 tie

23 tie

22

20 tie

14 tie

18 tie

Oct 21

Record lows

Hilo, HI

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Dill Weed

The evidence that AGW is false keeps piling up!
Well, I gotta go throw some more coal in my furnace!!
It’s clean coal, of course. Wink, wink.
REPLY: Single weather events can’t be said to predict climate, only when multiple sustained trends emerge does it qualify for such a label.- Anthony
Word.

Perry Debell
Pierre Gosselin

Western Europe has also had a cold Fall. Still, Eastern Europe and Siberia have been quite warm.
This, of course, is all anecdotal.
;O)

deadwood

Global warming is no longer the issue.
Its Climate Change.
This allows the alarmists to smoothly transition between warming and cooling conditions without having to change their mantra.

John-X

” REPLY: Single weather events can’t be said to predict climate, only when multiple sustained trends emerge does it qualify for such a label.- Anthony ”
That fact will not stop these weather events from being used to “prove” global warming, because…
“…Global Warming causes extreme weather events to become more extreme and occur more frequently.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases

Pierre Gosselin

In fact, it looks like balmy WEATHER for a lot of the globe.
(Scroll down to the third map)
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp2.html
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp4.html
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp11.html
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp5.html
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp10.html
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp8.html
Let’s keep in mind these are only surface air temps – and not ocean temps where the real energy is.

Pierre Gosselin

Are some of these records maybe recorded by sloppy surface stations, which Anthony has shown exist in great abundance? Anyone living near these record locations, we’d like to hear what the stations look like.
The records might have to be adjusted downwards.

Robert Bateman

I live near one of those ‘record lows’. It started early last year, when the overall temps took a plunge. Been a steady decline since then. It seems to coincide with the failure of the SC24 to take off. Of course, it’s locales that see the big change, with other locales somewhat balancing things out. Try telling that to the folks caught smack in the middle of one of the ‘colder’ locales. They would be the same ones that endured it last time, during the Dalton Minimum. We see it as a step-down function. It stepped down and didn’t step back up.

Harold Ambler

A batch of proper cold is being prepared in the Arctic. High temperatures in Alert, Canada, and various spots in northern Alaska keep falling short of daily predictions by ten degrees or more. Today the best example is Eureka, Canada: Predicted high is -5 Fahrenheit. Actual temp: -22. WHEN the cold spills south, it will get the world’s attention, however briefly.
What could — and should — get the world’s attention more seriously will be if the Denmark Strait is actually freezing between Greenland and Iceland.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/NEWIMAGES/arctic.seaice.some.001.png
Frustratingly, the site is not updated at this resolution over the weekend. Tune in tomorrow!
If the strait freezes, it would be (a) historic and (b) an indication that this winter may blow people’s minds.

Kum Dollison

UAH seems to have it just a bit cooler, worldwide, than Oct, 2007, but not much.

pkatt

Like you said .. it doesnt matter if it gets hotter or colder, Climate change has it covered and they will tell you weather does not a trend make.

Terry Ward

deadwood (10:30:50) :
“Global warming is no longer the issue.
Its Climate Change.”
Which is why, to hang them with their own petard, we must always insist upon the first phrase.
(record breaking)Cold in Oz too:
http://news.theage.com.au/national/nsw-cold-snap-over-for-weekend-bureau-20081023-57if.html

crosspatch

Temperatures in Fairbanks, AK have been running 10 degrees or so below normal for several days. They could be on tap for record cold tonite as the forecast is saying “Becoming mostly clear. Lows 15 to 30 below…coldest in valleys”. That average low temp for this date is +8F. So temps in the -20’sF are nearly 30 degrees below normal. Record cold for dates around now are close to -30F. It is interesting to note that the record cold temp for today in Fairbanks happened in 1935 at -28F and the record high temp happened the very next year in 1936 when it got up to +48F. But what interests me most is that temperatures have been running a steady 10 degrees or so below “normal” for several days running.
When that cold air starts pushing down across the Great Lakes in December and January as “Alberta Clippers”, there is going to be some serious cold in the lower 48.

Pierre Gosselin

Off topic, sorry.
Can I trust the following graphic?
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.area.jpg
It shows 2008 Arctic sea ice just a tick higher than 2007 levels.
But when you look at the photos, 2008 is clearly way over 07.

Mary Hinge

A quick google search finds very warm temps in the US in October http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/10/13/ddn101308warmweb.html
We know what the cause of the cold temperatures are, http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/data/anomnight.10.23.2008.gif
You can see a classic -ive PDO, I notice that the vast majority of the cold temperatures are on the west and would be immediately affected by the -ive PDO.
Also note that there is no sign of a La Nina developing as yet.

John D.

Here in the northern Sacramento Valley in Northern California, this October’s been aweful warm (low to mid 80’s so far); sure could use some of that cool and wet !
John D.

Steve Moore

This is a little off-topic, but I didn’t know where else to put it.
The Oregon AMS chapter has predicted a “La Nada” winter for the PACNW. Some of the presentaions can be found here:
http://www.ametsoc.org/chapters/oregon/meetings.html
Mark Nelson of KPDX (who presented a “Year in Review”) keeps an entertaining blog here:
http://stormteam12.typepad.com/

To Pierre Gosselin:
The anomaly data in the wxmaps files are a comparison to the centennial average 1901 to 2000. I wonder who has taken the early data e.g. for the inner part of northern Greenland, where a 8 degree centigrade warming is shown (now -20 Celsius instead of -30 Celsius). There must be a lot of interpolation and extrapolation in those centennial averages.
Important is the trend, found by comparison to 2007 and 2006.

David S

This is purely anecdotal but I think southeastern Michigan had a warmer than average summer. October seems colder than average. Its certainly not ice age stuff but chilly enough to make me long for the good old days of global warming.

Frank. Lansner

Mary Hinge:
I believe we will see a slightly colder winter globaly starting already in November.
How can i say that?
Polar temperatures have been quite low until sep-oct.
Reason for the sep-oct warmth in the arctic: The top layers of open waters in the polar area will loose a lot of heat. The ice isolates. But this year we saw an almost intact icesheet until August when a HUUUGE whole appeared very quiclky due to the thin ice. Therefore this year, the heat of top layers of a very big arctic ocean layer was released in a very small time window.
This led to very hot temperatures in the arctic but only for a short while.
Now: The ice has closed. And now we can se wheather forecasts for the huge Siberia that goes very cold in 1´st half of november. This cold also affect eastern and middle europe.
so:
1) The unusual warming of the arctic and Siberia is OVER around NOW. This will affect temperatures from Europe to China.
2) The SOI index has been above 6 for 9 weeks! 8 weeks historically means LA NINA! And the SOI index in the last weeks has even been increasing, no signs of last minute change now.
3) Befores these events mentioned above, we actually have the same temperatures now as we had last year under La Nina..
4)The temperature level in the arctic BEFORE the thin ice collapsed was very low, in fact slightly below normaltemperatures since 1958. So actually this indicates whats waiting for us now that the ice has closed again.
(This “50-year-back-normal” is usually used for the arctic, and the arctic only. Funny, because going back a little longer, in the 1930-40´ies there was much higher temperatures thus included in “normal”…)
So by some good winter clothes… 🙂

Pamela Gray

Why do people get their nickers in a twist when we talk about weather?!?!?! I love learning and talking about weather. Don’t give a rat’s ass about proving climate one way or the other because I was too young to notice the climate earlier and will be too damned old to care when we can turn our weather talk into an overall climate statement for the 100 year period. I don’t have any motive besides the fact that I just love the topic.
The same is true for the threads on the Sun. Not into proving anything. I just love talking about it.
So stop trying to spoil a perfectly wonderful thread by being a snot.

Pierre Gosselin

“But what interests me most is that temperatures have been running a steady 10 degrees or so below “normal” for several days running.”
Boy, a few more years of that, and you might actually have a local trend going.

Paul Shanahan
Steve Berry

I agree Pamela.
VERY cold weather predicted over the UK in the next few days. Tuesday night is going to be -1 in the south! This time last year daytime temps were 18 or 19 C.

JimB

I predict there will be a huge increase in “snot” this winter…
Jim

Eve Stevens

I agree Pamela. I don’t like the cold but then there is nothing we can do about it. However I do get very annoyed when our politians want to tax us for the warming that is actually cooling.

Philip_B

Cold weather in the UK has forced a big marathon event to be abandoned with people missing. It sounds serious.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24556433-2,00.html

MattN

We will be at/near record cold in NC all week…

Kohl Piersen

I get a bit frustrated with all this “weather” talk!
As temperatures rose over the past few years, every little bit of warming, every hot day in Bullemakanka or wherever was trumpeted as if it was evidence of AGW etc etc.
Now we seem to be giving the same sort of treatment every bit of anecdotal evidence of cooling. Every ‘record low’ somewhere or other is trumpeted as though it showed the coming of the next ice-age.
It has to be recognised that these things go up and down in the natural course of events – always have, always will.
Perhaps the present cooling might indicate that some sort of peak in temperatures has been passed. Or perhaps not. But the globe has been BOTH a lot hotter and a lot cooler than it now is.
In my opinion, relying on a few days, months, years to draw conclusions in relation to global warming trends is just silly. BUT it is just as silly to rely on similar time periods to draw conclusions in relation to global cooling.
So whether the weather goes up a bit or down a bit shouldn’t really decide anything – the causes of the late global warming and the present global cooling must continue to be investigated, we simply do not know ‘the answer’ at this point in time.
Perhaps it’s ’42’.

Harold Ambler (10:50:47) :
> What could — and should — get the world’s attention more
> seriously will be if the Denmark Strait is actually freezing
> between Greenland and Iceland.
>
> If the strait freezes, it would be (a) historic and (b) an
> indication that this winter may blow people’s minds.
Nahhh. the warm-mongers will probably wait for the ice-bridge to melt and then crow about the “discovery” that Warming Island 2 (Iceland) is actually an island, not a peninsula attached to Greenland.
Btw, even Wikipedia, that bastion of AGW, admits that “Warming Island” was mapped by Ernst Hofer and shown in his book. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warming_Island
> http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/NEWIMAGES/arctic.seaice.some.001.png
> Frustratingly, the site is not updated at this resolution over the
> weekend. Tune in tomorrow!
I use http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/arctic.jpg for the latest image. To go back to a specific date, use http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh
Some notes about that site
1) Snowcover is shown only for recent years
2) arctic.jpg is updated daily at approx 2:42 PM Central Time. That’s 1942 Z during daylight saving time (northern summer) and 2042 Z during standard time (northern winter).
3) The 2 pictures appear, at first, to be half-size. In Firefox, right-click, and select “View image” from the menu. The full size is 1709×856. I don’t know what commands to use in other browsers.

Tom in Florida

The peanut gallery wants to know why we keep talking about specific temperatures instead of ranges of temperature. What is the normal range of temperature for this time of year where you live? I am going to estimate between 45 and 90 in my area based on living here 19 years. Any temp within that range I would consider within normal limits.

Leon Brozyna

@crosspatch (11:23:46)
When that cold air starts pushing down across the Great Lakes in December and January as “Alberta Clippers”, there is going to be some serious cold in the lower 48.
And piles of snow measured in feet.
With enough of these anomolous temp readings and soon we’ll have a serious trend to speak about…

Kohl Piersen

Tom in Fla, said – “…based on living here 19 years.” …. “Any temp within that range I would consider within normal limits.”
It may well be, and one could conclude that to-day, say, is hotter/cooler/wetter/…whatever than any day for the past 19 years. But the point is that the base line for comparison is ONLY a period of 19 years and what is normal for a 19 year period is unlikely to be normal for periods extending to hundreds and thousands of years.

Fernando

Fernando is 100% Pamela

blcjr

Tom in Florida (14:09:43) :
I don’t know where you are in Florida, but NOAA publishes all kinds of data that weather services can use to describe what’s “normal.” You “guesstimated” a “normal” between 45 and 90. Just to choose one spot, in Tampa, for today, the normals are (Low, then High)
65° 82°
and the records are
47° (1968) 89° (1939)
But you might want to watch to see if the cold air pushing into the South tonight and tomorrow, and to Florida on Tuesday, breaks any records. We’ve been skirting with record lows here in central Arkansas. If the current forecast holds, we’ll probably set some new records tonight, or more likely, Monday night.
FWIW.

Patrick Henry

Just back from seeing the “anointed one” at Colorado State University, where he spoke in person while visiting his ill grandmother in Hawaii. Temperatures are about 19 degrees below normal here today at 44F – the surrogate Gore effect.
He told the very enthusiastic crowd that Bush is evil, McCain is Bush, and we need to get out of Iraq because their economy is doing better than ours. (A few months ago he wanted to abandon Iraq to Al Qaida because it was a hopeless quagmire,) Then he warned the crowd that “the other guy” was going to “say bad things” about him during the next week.
It was some of the most childish, empty oratory I have ever heard, and the crowd of 50,000 young people couldn’t stop screaming or swooning.

F Rasmin

84 degrees fahrenheit here in Brisbane Australia. What is a ‘cloud?’

CodeTech

Love it!
Lived in Calgary for 44 years. I’ve seen halloween nights that were -30C with blizzard conditions, cold and blowing snow, a foot on snow on the ground, I’ve seen rain, and +20C with a pleasant scent from the still green foliage. (I use Halloween night as an example because I have clear childhood memories of it).
The cool part is, WEATHER VARIES, and far too much to get anxious in either direction about any particular weather event, season, decade, or century.
It’s crappy weather here today, too, but not nearly as cold as it COULD be. Also, by late October we have usually had some sort of snowfall, but other than a few flakes concealed in light rain there has been nothing.
This current weather pattern reminds me of 1995-96, which ended up being the coldest winter I can remember. We exceeded 30 days in a row below -30C in January and February. It was purely brutal.

Tom in Florida

Basil: to Tom in Florida (14:09:43) :
I don’t know where you are in Florida, but NOAA publishes all kinds of data that weather services can use to describe what’s “normal.” You “guesstimated” a “normal” between 45 and 90. Just to choose one spot, in Tampa, for today, the normals are (Low, then High)
65° 82°
and the records are
47° (1968) 89° (1939)”
Pretty good guesstimation on my part, eh? I am about 70 miles south of Tampa on the coast. Yes we have cool air coming in, but the Gulf is still 76 degrees and if the wind comes off the water I won’t feel it too much. Inland temps are almost always colder for that reason. But then, we are just talking about weather.
Kohl Pierson:” But the point is that the base line for comparison is ONLY a period of 19 years and what is normal for a 19 year period is unlikely to be normal for periods extending to hundreds and thousands of years.”
Based on the above from Basil, that 19 year period looks like all years on record. But the point is we are talking about a 42 degree range of weather that would then define the climate in this area for this time of year. Would a degree or two change upwards for that range change the climate? I don’t think so.

Steven Hill

Just can’t wait for 2009
CO2 limits and Bottom up Economics

Ed Scott

deadwood (10:30:50) :
Global warming is no longer the issue.
Its Climate Change.
The real issue is the false claim that anthropogenic CO2 emissions cause global warming/climate change.

DB2

[snip] sorry this was mostly a personal attack, feel free to rephrase – moderator

Robert Wood

Here in Ottawa, Canada, we’ve been dropping well below zero each night this past week. And it’s not even November yet!

Robert Wood

CodeTech
Weather variations are always greater than climate variations. The latter are always slower and only visible in a historical record. We are seeing weather; but after another 1- years of cooling, we shall be seeing “climate”:.

gp

“Climate is weather over a longer time frame”
The weather is trending with the low activity of the sun. I just bought a copy of The Chilling Stars, A Cosmic View of Climate Change by Svensmark and Calder. I haven’t seen a book report here, but I have seen many references to the work. I’ll comment after reading it.
I have been watching the link to the sunspots on the sidebar above for a couple months and the MDI Magnetogram is as featureless today as I have ever seen it. The record lows will continue.

Bobby Lane

REPLY: Single weather events can’t be said to predict climate, only when multiple sustained trends emerge does it qualify for such a label.- Anthony
Okay, so what “multiple sustained trends” have we not seen in order for it to qualify for such a label? And, of course, which ones have we seen? And which qualifies it as false: if humanity has zero contribution, or if humanity just has less of a contribution than alleged by the AGW movement?

Brute

Anthony (or anyone),
Some time ago I took a look at the extreme high and low temperature record for the United States and discovered that a significant number of record high temperatures occurred before 1950…..I believe the the numbers came out to be 70% pre-1950 – 30% post-1950.
I then looked at record low temperatures and it worked out to be about 50% – 50%. 50% of the record lows occurred before 1950…….50% after.
I chose 1950 as a dividing point because rising levels of CO2 during the latter half of the 20th century “should” indicate a higher number of record highs, correct?
I pointed this out to a global warming Alarmist on another site and never received a satisfactory answer. The first answer was that the entire United States is not a “true” representation of “global” warming. I then checked world highs and lows and found virtually a 50 – 50 split accross the 20th century also.
My question is:
Is my line of reasoning flawed? Shouldn’t there be a higher percentage of “record high” temperatures recorded in the latter half of the 20th century if rising CO2 is the cause of global warming?
REPLY: Technically your thinking is correct, but there is one mitigating factor…the start of recordkeeping only began with the formation of the US Weather Bureau in 1892, and thus in the first 50 years, it is easier to establish a new record where one didn’t exist before, and then to quickly beat it with a new one. As time goes on, i becomes less and less likely in a static system that a new record would be set…except in the case of global warming…which would tend to make new high temp records plus new “highest lows” for overnight. If you have something written up on this I’d enjoy seeing it. – Anthony

JimB

“BUT it is just as silly to rely on similar time periods to draw conclusions in relation to global cooling. ”
I don’t believe anyone is actually trying to use the weather as “proof” of anything… I see it more as poking fun at the AGW crowd, not dissimilar from the cartoon regarding the letter received by the weather man that said “I just shoveled 2ft of ‘partly cloudy’ off my door step.”
Steven Hill (15:32:05) :
“…Bottom Up Economics”
That’s actually close to a reality now. With approx. %48 of the working population paying zero income taxes, we are soon at a point where the majority (non taxpayers) will control the minority (tax payers).
Jim

Anthony, I’m not sure I follow your reasoning.
Wouldn’t a new record erase an old record. It’s easier to make new records at the beginning of measurements (In fact, every day the first year would be a record), but all, except for the extremes, would be replaced with newer records.

Bill in Vigo

Just as a curiosity here in NE Alabama we have been running about 5-10 degrees f lower for lows this past two weeks and about 20 to 15 degrees lower for highs this same past two weeks. no records but it makes you wonder if the regional short term trend might be cooler for the south east this year. I know that I have 3 cords of fire wood cut split and stacked under shelter and am thinking about getting more. I am now raising extra grand kids (4) and the price of propane heating fuel has become restrictive. I thank the good Lord that I have enough property to have the hard wood available to harvest for fire wood. I expect it to soon be taxed also.
I wonder if they ever think about the amount of wood burnt for fuel before the change over to coal and oil. It seems that is also carbon based and the quality of housing wasn’t what it is today. I would think it would have been an immense amount of uptake. Not to mention the amount of ash to change the abedo effect. I very doubt that it would have reached high enough in the atmosphere to have caused any cooling. Just wondering.
Bill Derryberry