Another frost advisory before Labor Day

More anecdotal colder than normal weather keeps piling up. This time it’s in Southern Oregon and Northeastern California. Clearly we are having some far earlier than normal frosts and freezes in the USA, and the situation seems to be mirrored in colder than normal weather in parts of UK and Europe as well.

Note that this frost advisory has no connection to the weather pattern that caused frost and freeze in Minnesota and Wisconsin last night, it is a different frontal system.

NORTHEAST SISKIYOU AND NORTHWEST MODOC COUNTIES-KLAMATH BASIN-

NORTHERN AND EASTERN KLAMATH COUNTY AND WESTERN LAKE COUNTY-

CENTRAL AND EASTERN LAKE COUNTY-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF…TULELAKE…DORRIS…ALTAMONT…

KLAMATH FALLS…BEATTY…BLY…CHEMULT…CRESCENT…GILCHRIST…

SPRAGUE RIVER…LAKEVIEW

238 PM PDT MON AUG 25 2008

…FROST ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 2 AM TO 9 AM PDT

   TUESDAY…

CLEARING SKIES BEHIND A COLD FRONT WILL ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO

DROP INTO THE 30S IN MANY AREAS EAST OF THE CASCADES TONIGHT. SOME

ISOLATED LOCATIONS WILL DROP BELOW FREEZING.

A FROST ADVISORY MEANS THAT FROST IS POSSIBLE. SENSITIVE OUTDOOR

PLANTS MAY BE KILLED IF LEFT UNCOVERED.

Map from National Weather Service, Medford Oregon

h/t to Pamela Gray

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August 25, 2008 8:10 pm

Can’t wait to see the ANGST on the major networks!…oh, wait…YOU WON”T see a thing…because it doesn’t ***SHOCK*** fit their agenda! 🙂
Thanks for pointing out the ‘anecdotal’ evidence!
~Michael
http://www.cookevilleweatherguy.com

deadwood
August 25, 2008 8:13 pm

With any justice, this cold fron will have enough legs to make it Denver in time for the O’ceptance speech.

Pamela Gray
August 25, 2008 8:14 pm

I knew something was strange when I went over Tollgate tonight on my way back to Pendleton. The temp dipped below 50 and the rain hitting my windshield had a decided ping to it (frozen core?). As soon as I got in, I fired up the laptop and there it was. This frost advisory will likely hit Wallowa County. We get weather there that just isn’t accurately predicted or reported by the NWS. Which is why I always check the Enterprise station.
http://www.enterpriseweather.com/

Pamela Gray
August 25, 2008 8:33 pm

hmmm. Within the space of less than 5 minutes, the NWS changed the expected low Tuesday night in Lostine (just 7 miles from Enterprise) from 39 to 37. Wonder what it will be in 5 more minutes.

August 25, 2008 9:01 pm

In NH the trees have already turned … October in August they are calling it. The trees must know what is coming.

Pamela Gray
August 25, 2008 9:01 pm

Hells Bells! We got snow coming to the Cascades! Just as a reference point, Mt. Hood is 11,249 feet high. Snow is predicted at 7000 feet and above. This is at ski resort level.
Special Weather Statement
SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OR
621 AM PDT MON AUG 25 2008
ORZ011-013-WAZ019-260400-
NORTHERN OREGON CASCADES-CASCADES IN LANE COUNTY-
SOUTH WASHINGTON CASCADES-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF…GOVERNMENT CAMP…DETROIT..
SANTIAM PASS…MCKENZIE BRIDGE…OAKRIDGE…WILLAMETTE PASS..
COLDWATER RIDGE VISITORS CENTER…MOUNT ST. HELENS
621 AM PDT MON AUG 25 2008
…COOL MOIST AIR OVER THE SOUTH WASHINGTON CASCADES AND NORTH AND
CENTRAL OREGON CASCADES TODAY..
A RATHER VIGOROUS PACIFIC COLD FRONT MOVED ACROSS THE CASCADES
OVERNIGHT…AND WILL BE FOLLOWED BY A COOL SHOWERY AIR MASS ON FOR
THE REMAINDER OF TODAY AND EARLY TONIGHT. SHOWERS ARE NOT
EXPECTED TO BE HEAVY OR WIDESPREAD BUT THE AIR MASS BEHIND THE
FRONT WILL BE MOIST AND COOLER THAN IT HAS BEEN FOR A WHILE. SNOW
LEVELS ARE EXPECTED TO FALL TO AROUND 7000 FEET IN THE SOUTH
WASHINGTON CASCADES AND THE NORTH OREGON CASCADES TODAY AND EARLY
TONIGHT…AND TO AROUND 8000 FEET IN THE CENTRAL OREGON CASCADES.
IF YOU WILL BE BACKPACKING…CLIMBING…HIKING OR CAMPING IN THE
CASCADES BR PREPARED FOR THIS ABRUPT DOWNTURN TO COOL MOIST
CONDITIONS TODAY AND EARLY TONIGHT BEHIND THE COLD FRONT.

Brian D
August 25, 2008 9:26 pm

I think climatic Fall has started. Frost starting and leaves changing fast along the northern tier. All the while, tropical weather in the southeast, with more to come. Yeah, it’s Fall. My wife even said it smelled like Fall outside.
Had a late Spring, barely a Summer and now Fall. Man, I hate three season years. The cold never really left. It was justing hiding. Poking its head up once in a while this so-called Summer. Some cool days, and quite a few cool nights.

Carl Yee
August 25, 2008 9:27 pm

So kiss the tomatoes goodby (again) in central and eastern Oregon. We must have the world’s shortest growing season.

August 25, 2008 9:59 pm

There seems to be so much anecdotal evidence in so many places that at some point intelligent people can only conclude that it’s not anecdotal anymore. Perhaps was are approaching that point.

August 25, 2008 10:54 pm

Dittos to Brian and Carl. Fall came a month early. My tomatoes are still green. What is even more annoying, if not frightening, are the predictions that it’s just going to get worse for at least the next 20 years, due to PDO, spotless sun, lunar pull, orbital eccentricities, and what have you.
I have never been able to relate to the warming alarmists because warmer is completely better than colder in every respect. If Algore’s dire report had been Global Cooling, I might have joined his mindnumbed army. Sadly, I am an iconoclast and not a joiner. Still, I do know what I like, and I like warmer. Hope fades, though. I guess I better put up a few more cords of firewood. It looks like we’re in for an extra long, dreary winter to be discontented with.

coaldust
August 25, 2008 11:13 pm

Today in the valley of the Great Salt Lake, ahead of the front, the forecast was for 100 F, but some unexpected cumulus formations developed, dropped some virga, produced some cooler (less warm?) winds, and the temperature topped out at 97 F.
This hasn’t been a cool summer, but we also haven’t hit the extremely hot days as often as recent years. In fact, we are right on the average of 5 days of 100 F or hotter this year whereas last year set the record for such. Making an accounting for UHI, I suspect we have actually had a fairly average summer, without the especially hot days.

woody
August 26, 2008 12:19 am

This winter in Australia is said to have been the coldest in 10 years. (Odd that, considering 1998 was the hottest year ever in the history of the whole entire universe {sorry, sarcasm took over there…}) This northern hemisphere winter could well be interesting.

Vincent Guerrini Jr.
August 26, 2008 12:55 am

well it looks like arctic ice has indeed started to re-freeze or at least ceased melting
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.365.jpg and that looks like ice in Hudson Bay? Not clouds as some have maintained

August 26, 2008 1:14 am

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Pierre Gosselin
August 26, 2008 1:16 am

Klockkarman,
One can find VOLUMES of anecdotal evidence on both sides, and make the same claim you do.
Anecdotes are single cherry-picked scattered data points, and are by themselves completely meaningless. If you can show there have been more cold events than warm ones, and that over an extended time period, then you are beginning to talk science. Anything else is pure chatter over the fence in the backyard. Find a single scientist who does not agree with that.
The steady use of randomly selected anecdotes by this website does nothing to increase its integrity. Like it or not, that’s my view.

Pierre Gosselin
August 26, 2008 1:19 am

For those of you who believe there are only cold events happening lately, here’s a map to help you find warm ones (scroll down):
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp2.html

Pamela Gray
August 26, 2008 3:15 am

This is a weather site along with other cool topics. Your site compares today to a statistical average (which isn’t weather). We are at cross purposes. You keep letting us know that our purpose does not match your purpose for this site. Can we be done with that?

Carlo
August 26, 2008 3:16 am

Pierre Gosselin
26 aug to 2 sep?

August 26, 2008 3:50 am

Fair go guys – we are in a mini drought here in Western Australia (Down-Under) 3 weeks without rain with warmer day time temps and the cockies (farmers – aussie slang) are getting a bit desperate. Send some of that rain Down-Under – please— especially to the SW part of our continent. We would be very grateful.

Vincent Guerrini Jr.
August 26, 2008 4:06 am

Anthony: is this meaningful?
http://www.globalweathercycles.com/
link posted on ICECAP so thought to be serious?
REPLY: I have my doubts for several reasons
1) No background posted on the guy – no apparent training in meteorology
2) Asks for money first, science later
3) Too much self promotion – aka bigfoot is actually a gorilla suit stuffed with roadkill

August 26, 2008 4:44 am

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MarkW
August 26, 2008 4:50 am

Klockarman,
Are we approaching a “tipping point”?

August 26, 2008 5:12 am

Anthony,
How unusual is it for these places to have frost warnings before Labor Day? Is it indicative of the persistance of the cold phase of the PDO?
REPLY: I’ve been looking for records to tell me about dates of frost warnings, so far none. But my experience tells me it is unusual. I don’t recall seeing a frost or freeze warning before labor day in the CONUS, ever.

Patrick Henry
August 26, 2008 5:17 am

According to NOAA, almost the entire country is below normal temperatures this year. Much of the country is 3-5 degrees below normal.
http://www.hprcc.unl.edu/products/maps/acis/YearTDeptUS.png

Steven Hill
August 26, 2008 5:54 am

Man Made Global Warming is causing this colder weather, Gore stated that this would happen. Besides, Americans drove 12 billion less miles in June and CO2 is dropping like a rock.
hehe

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