NASA's Jim Hansen calls for energy company execs to be put on trial

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He’s got the whoooole woorld in his hands…

This troubling news from the Guardian, UK

“James Hansen, one of the world’s leading climate scientists, will today call for the chief executives of large fossil fuel companies to be put on trial for high crimes against humanity and nature, accusing them of actively spreading doubt about global warming in the same way that tobacco companies blurred the links between smoking and cancer.

Hansen will use the symbolically charged 20th anniversary of his groundbreaking speech to the US Congress – in which he was among the first to sound the alarm over the reality of global warming – to argue that radical steps need to be taken immediately if the “perfect storm” of irreversible climate change is not to become inevitable.

Speaking before Congress again, he will accuse the chief executive officers of companies such as ExxonMobil and Peabody Energy of being fully aware of the disinformation about climate change they are spreading.”

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I suspect he’ll be calling for the jailing of bloggers like myself next. I think Mr. Hansen has lost all sense of reason, and his last shred of credibility.

UPDATE: Apparently Mr. Hansen has made the claims above on live radio on the Dian Rehm show this morning, audio files of the interview will be up shortly here:

http://wamu.org/programs/dr/08/06/23.php#20635

When the audio file is up, I’ll post a direct link.

AUDIO CLIPS NOW AVAILABLE:

Listen to this segment

Joe D’Aleo created this graph this morning:

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/HANSEN_AND_CONGRESS.jpg

click for a larger image.

Satellite measured global temperature trend from the University of Alabama, Huntsville show sthat it is cooler now than when he made his testimony in 1988.

UPDATE2: See the reader poll on this issue here

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Leon Brozyna

The scary thing is ~ he will be seriously listened to.

Joel Black

I sincerely hope that he and all his cohorts sue or even file criminal charges against the individuals he is accusing. Trials require facts, not modeled guesses. He has lost his mind.

Dishman

So, let me get this straight…
An employee of the US government is calling for prosecutions based on the content of speech by private individuals.
I thought all government employees had a legal obligation to uphold the Constitution.
That earns at least one call to NASA

Spam

Indeed.
He does remind me of the inquisition persecuting Galileo for daring to suggest that the earth revolves around the sun.
Not strictly because of lack of evidence for either side, but more for his views of suitable punishment for those that hold a disenting view.

statePoet1775

Bring on the cold! Right now the lunatics seem far more dangerous.

crosspatch

Why is someone like this anywhere near a science operation? It is quite obvious he has an agenda that he is more interested in furthering than he is interested in doing any real climate science. It really is sad and frustrating to be wasting the taxpayers’ money on a position that could be filled by someone who might do some real groundbreaking science with all those resources at their disposal.

Mark Andrew

If any oil company executive can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to deliberately promote misleading information on climate change they should be jailed. This might be a rather hard thing to prove.
If any green activist can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to deliberately promote misleading information to support increased fuel taxes they should also be jailed.

Pofarmer

He’s gonna be really unhappy when Steve Mcintyre gets finished demolishing his code..
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How does anybody get this full of themselves?

If any green activist can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to deliberately promote misleading information to support increased fuel taxes they should also be jailed.

Grand Inquisitor Hansen & The Great Goreacle™ had better get to a prison tailor to be fitted for their orange jumpsuits, PDQ. Their falsified, er, “adjusted” data is enough to put them in chains for several Solar Cycles. 😉

Dishman

Mark Andrew, I disagree.
Free Speech is a fundamental part of our freedom.
At most, Hansen should be relieved of his position for breaching his constitutional duties.

Timo van Druten

Let’s first listen what he has to say, before making any preliminary judgements.
It’s about the facts and not about assumptions. Let’s not make the same mistakes he probably makes.
Listen to what he has to say, check and analyse the facts and only than judge his credibility.

[…] Grand Inquisitor Hansen is reportedly going to be calling for the jailing of the executives of Big O… “James Hansen, one of the world’s leading climate scientists, will today call for the chief executives of large fossil fuel companies to be put on trial for high crimes against humanity and nature, accusing them of actively spreading doubt about global warming in the same way that tobacco companies blurred the links between smoking and cancer. […]

doug w

While an employee does not take the oath to preserve and protect the Constitution, the politicians who hire and can also fire directors of government research institutes certain;y do.
Hansen and the other Gore environmental appointees from the 1990’s should have been fired in January 2001. What was Bush thinking?

BUCKO36

The Al Gore, AGW crowd has become the equvalent of late 1700’s England crowd. Taxation without “Justifcation”.
Our Liberial enforced (Dumb down education system) has put the fate of this Country in the hands of a bunch of totally “Uninformed/Misinformed” voters.
“Minutemen” unite, and save this Great Country from the Liberial “Socialistic” forces within, that are now bent on destroying this great Country.
God/Science Save Us all!!!
“Give Me Liberty of Give me Death. Our Freedom of Speech and Socialistic Education system has Failed Us.

evanjones

He’s finally gone ’round the twist. (Or maybe this is just the outward exponent of it.)
‘Specially after the Suzuki disgrace. Even Gore (somehow) manages not to sail quite off the edge of his flat earth.
D’you think maybe he’s embroiled in internal GISS office politics, considering NASA went and spilled the beans by admitting that the PDO had flipped and GW was on sabbatical? Just had to lash out?
The poor dear. We mustn’t scoff too loud; it isn’t kind to poke fun at the disabled.

evanjones

I sincerely hope that he and all his cohorts sue or even file criminal charges against the individuals he is accusing.
I’m not a praying man, but for this I will make an exception.

Patrick Henry

A crime against humanity would be to lose our oil supply for a month. Hundreds of millions would starve and billions would die in wars. Society would collapse.
CO2 is simply the latest mechanism to seize power and subjugate the masses. If it weren’t for Hansen, no one would even think or talk about CO2. It has no impact on our lives.

David Gladstone

Van Druten, what the hell are you talking about, “…let’s listen to what he has to say, let’s wait and see, blah blah..”, we have 10 years of him making false statements. he’s been spouting lies about a fictional global warming that doesn’t exist. This is no time to be mealy-mouthed about it. He’s also in violation of NASA policy in regard to getting involved in reccomending one policy over another, he’s a civil servant, who isn’t obeying his superiors, he should be cashiered immediately. This is nothing less than an attempt to institute a Macchiavellian behavior modification from above. This guy is a dangerous fanatic and he will be addressing Congress tomorrow; I worked on Capitol Hill as a Congressional intern and I can tell you their ignorance of much of what they sign and support, in the aggregate is astonishing. I have little hope that anyone will put this bozo in his place. But, I do wonder who will challenge this delusional idiot by suing him for libel or at least call his sanity into question.

Greg Smith

The link to a Reuters article on sea temperatures published in Nature shows how scientific these guys are. If the data doesn’t fit the model, change the data! Where is peer review when you need it?
http://africa.reuters.com/top/news/usnBAN946269.html
I’m an Australian too I’m ashamed to say
Greg Smith

I had heard that Dr. Hansen received a grant and legal support from a liberal foundation to establish and promote a scientific basis for global warming. Does anyone know if this is true and, if true, did it occur prior to his original speech to Congress?
Has Dr. Hansen offered up an explanation for the sudden reversion to the mean of temps since early 2007? He still comments about how the (early 2007) anomaly was remarkable, though he makes it sound as if it were true for the entire year which, as we all know, was not the case.

Suzuki made a similar foolish statement about jailing political leaders who didn’t believe in Anthropogenic climate change in February I believe. On the other hand, there was a recent poll in the English Observer that suggested around two thirds of the population did not beileve in the man made Climate change postulation.

Paulus

No, I think Hansen is quite right, although he doesn’t go nearly far enough.
I think offenders, rather than being jailed, should be “fired”, in a literal sense.
To give offenders a fair trial before being found guilty they could be investigated by an independent body run by the UN, called lets say, the “Inquisitional Panel on Climate Change”. This could be made up of well respected, independent, individuals who could be relied on to come to the correct decision, such as Hansen, Gore, and that guy who writes that blog. “Hansen’s Poodle”, I think his name is.

Chris

I encourage all to read the complete story. Hansen attacks democracy for not working. Really? Did you ever think that maybe you are on the losing end of a failed proposition and that democracy IS working? Get a life, loser. Gore and Hansen have more that one thing in common – they’re both snippy.

Chris

Hansen fiddles while the world temperature dives beneath the 1979-1998 average (see WUWT resource page).

Brad Peterson

Other people: We don’t fully believe James Hansen’s view of global warming.
James Hansen: I am a scientist! I welcome all points of view! Now put these doubters on trial for high crimes against humanity and nature!
That’s not science. It’s blind hatred and activism. It’s embarrassing to America and to any science in general. The man needs to be fired.

Starwise

This is a classic example of psychological projection.
In psychology, psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism in which one attributes one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions to others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Richard

Is he raising his own profile because Al Gore got all the kudos?

Kosmos

I think that Hansen quite know that he’s loosing the agw argument now , so he’s going for desperate mesures…
But in my opinion the one to blame was Gore, trying to “close the deal” a little earlier than suppose with is famous “science settle” argument…!
K.

Stan Jones

Could this not be good news though?
When AIT went before the courts in the UK, it was ripped to shreds.
If Hansen resorts to the law courts, he and his theories will also be exposed for what they are. He’s treading on thin ice here, you might say.

You know Hansen was the fellow who claimed censorship in 2006 by NASA officials who wanted to review his statements before he went out there and made them.
Well, I guess someone at NASA has decided the right course of action is to hand him all the rope he can use to hang himself–cause the guy is clearly a nutbar.

christopher elves

I think Mr Hansen should be encouraged to take any and all skeptics to court – It’s the one place where he and his theories will be held to ultimate factual test, stripped of influence from a hysterical green movement and an apologist media which ceased to be anything more than advocacy some time ago.
If he doesn’t hold good on this threat then perhaps he and Mr Gore should be taken to court for fraud. It seems to me that Mr Hansen’s fanatical rantings left the arena of scientific veracity a long time ago.
In the meantime Giss measurements move ever further into the realms of fantasy……..

Tom

“…democracy is not working the way it’s intended to work”.
Heard that one before; “1984” anyone?

Neil

The jailing of oil company executives is to be followed by the public burning of skeptic books and all skeptics will have to wear an identifying insignia! Where have we seen this before?

I don’t say this lightly but there have been lots of statements by James Hansen in the past two years that are the products of a mentally unstable mind. The man even has the gall to criticise fossil fuel producers while daily making an 85+ mile one way commute.
He reminds me rather strongly of the behavior of Trofim Lysenko given from contemporaneous reports.
If the US Congress goes Democratic in the next couple of years, then I guarantee that they will get rapidly tired of James Hansen and his retirement will be assured.

“It’s about the facts and not about assumptions. Let’s not make the same mistakes he probably makes.”
I’m with Timo.

Timo van Druten

David Gladstone,
Don’t misunderstand me; I am probably of the same opinion as you. But I first like to hear what he will say, before jumping to conclusions. You have to be prudent and consistent; let’s first have the facts straight (let´s hear what he has to say) and hold our breath for another day.
Let´s also keep in mind that this article is phony or misleading.

Phillip Bratby

Is there no way he can be retired due to old age? Or suffering from delusion grandeur? Or dementia? The trouble is that, like all dictators, he’s afraid that once he’s gone and the keys to the cupboard are passed on, his minions may not be scared to reveal the truth anymore and all the skeletons may be revealed. He doesn’t morph into Robert Mugabe at night, does he?

Carsten Arnholm, Norway

Is there any opposition at all to Hansen’s views within NASA?

Onar Åm

This fits very well with my forthcoming book called “The Climate Trial: in defense of humanity.” It is only available in Norwegian at the moment, but hopefully it will be out in America this year.

just Cait

He needs to put the white coat on, not the one scienctists wear, that other jacket.
Seriously, is there no way to get him out of NASA? He’s really destroying their reputation.

Peter Hearnden

Amazing thread.
90%+ of replies condemn ‘Hansen’ yet…he hasn’t even said what he’s supposed to have ‘said’ yet.

Caleb

If anyone disagrees with him, Hansen will burst into tears, suck his thumb, and claim he is a martyr.
However what is a martyr? From Wikipedia: ” The term martyr (Greek μάρτυς martys “witness”) initially signified a witness in the forensic sense, a person called to bear witness in legal proceedings…” and, “In the context of church history, from the time of the persecution of early Christians in the Roman Empire, being a martyr indicates a person who is killed for maintaining his or her religious belief…”
Hansen has been given every oportunity to testify. He has been given huge amounts of money to find corroberating evidence to back up his claims. Everyone has bent over backwards to be fair.
What he really wants to do is to deny others the right to question his claims. Therefore he in truth wants to make martyrs of everyone who questions his testimony and offers differing testimony.
This makes him more dangerous than a sulking child. He is like a person who bursts into tears, sucks his thumb, and then pulls out a gun.
Contact your congressman and ask for his removal.

The Guardian is a co-conspirator in the AGW scam – it doesn’t matter what you say to them, they will not listen. The New Scientist is as bad – worse – they should know better. And talking of prosecuting CEOs – what about Gore, Hansen’s guru. Did he say something about false information going into school text books?

Greg Smith put it as “If the data doesn’t fit the model, change the data!”, but I felt I should check.
The article says :
” Fellow report author John Church said he had long been suspicious about the historical data because it did not match results from computer models of the world’s climate and oceans.
“We’ve realigned the observations and as a result the models agree with the observations much better than previously,” said Church, a senior research scientist with the climate centre.
“And so by comparing many XBT observations with research ship observations in a statistical way, you can estimate what the errors associated with the XBTs are.”

There it is, in black and white, clear as day, in your face, bold as brass – the data has been adjusted to match the models.
How do these people get away with it???
I’m Australian too, so please don’t blame Australia for this!! (NB. Al Gore and James Hansen aren’t Australian…..)

Oldjim

Re the paper http://africa.reuters.com/top/news/usnBAN946269.html it isn’t as bad as it sounds.
Looking at the review of it over on Real Climate http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2008/06/ocean-heat-content-revisions/ the new graph actually removes an anomaly in the 1970/90 period and now shows a slightly slower rate of increase from 1985 onwards

Barbee Butts

What is it about this AGW (American Global Warming) crowd that drives them to the brink of insanity? It’s not just this guy, we have Al Gore, most of Congress and, sadly, BOTH of our Presidential candidates foaming at the mouth. Some compare them to religious fanatics. I, for one, am terrified of their ilk.

Pierre Gosselin

“I suspect he’ll be calling for the jailing of bloggers like myself next.”
When Obama is elected and Gore becomes Climate Czar, don’t be surprised if men in black pop into your home late one night. These guys are far more dangerous then you hope. AIT shows to what extent they are willing to go.
Be prepared to recant everyting you’ve posted here.
In general Hansen is calling anyone with a different opinion a criminal. I think the oil execs ought to go after him for libel.

Pierre Gosselin

In German we’d say this guy has got Dachschaden, i.e a leaky roof.
He’s definitely a few cans short of a 6-pack.

Pierre Gosselin

Mister Jones
points squarely to what has sparked Hansen’s newest outburst.
Despite the years of headlines, glossy photos of the upcoming Armegeddon, broad scientific “consensus”, climate change summits and “scientific” reports, a majority of Britons still doubt AGW. The campaign has failed.
Us deniers are getting under his skin and now, seeing he’s losing the battle, he thinks he can get his way by throwing a tantrum, and threatening to get his big brother to make us shut up if we don’t stop it.
It’s indeed high time to turn up the global heat on this pathetic charade.
I hope the other websites and conservative, American media outlets will join Anthony in exposing this childish tantrum.

Between this and the earth quakes caused by global warming I think it is fair to say that global warming has officially jumped the shark.