Guest essay by Eric Worrall
TV Cosmologist, Astrophysicist and climate advocate Neil deGrasse Tyson wants to “grab Trump by the Crotch” when he meets the President-elect to talk about science, to get his attention.
Neil deGrasse Tyson: I’ll grab Trump by the crotch when I meet him
Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson says he wants to use an unusual greeting when he meets President-elect Donald Trump.
“When I meet President Trump, I may first grab his crotch — to get his attention — then discuss Science with him,” Tyson tweeted Friday afternoon.
When I meet President Trump, I may first grab his crotch — to get his attention — then discuss Science with him.
— Neil deGrasse Tyson (@neiltyson) November 18, 2016
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Sadly Tyson seems to have chickened out and deleted the original crotch grab tweet. Rather a shame really – Trump seems to like people who have the character to stand by what they believe. Having said that, I strongly suspect if and when President-elect Trump meets Tyson, Trump would prefer a traditional handshake rather than a crotch grab.
The following is a video of Tyson explaining why he thinks electing climate “deniers” represents the downfall of democracy.
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I suspected that NDT was a crotch grabber of male crotches. But Donalds? Also doesn’t his crotch grabbing desires make him a rapist in certain circles. Or is rape and racism a crime blonde blue-eyed males can only commit?
CNN calls crotch grab a crime.
Sounds a bit gay to me….
I’m not sure about that. It appears NDT understands that ‘When you are a star they let you do anything.’
Exactly. I’m betting he had women throwing themselves at him – and it wasn’t a confession.
Heh heh I wouldn’t exactly call NDT a star…maybe in his own mind. He’s a boob of epic proportions…
Indeed, just look at some of the women accusing Trump of groping or improper behaviour. They go back 6mo later to meet him because they hope to do deal and make money out of the relationship. ie they ACCEPT his behaviour, even if they don’t like it too much.
The other, a porn star, is “offended” at the idea he suggested paying here to have sex. That’s what she does for a living for heaven’s sake.
Now presumably the politically correct lefty media will be lambasting Tyson as a predatory, racist sex-offender who uses his powerful physique to threaten people.
Sounds like he wants to work for TSA. Did that one guy say he wanted to kiss Trump? Bad democrat his is.
Yes, it is a crime if it happens. However, hyper-masculine hyperbole is just bluster. Let’s not read into this any more than we should. This is a non-story of the same level as Trump’s bus-talk. Bluster and buffoonery. I expected better from both of them, but it’s of no real consequence.
So Trump is either a sexual offender or a liar?
Technically both Bill and Hillary Clinton fall under the same Sex Offender/Enabler/accomplice umbrella as you might cast Trump
No Slimon.
You are WRONG yet again
Your far-left ideology leads you to being WRONG
GET USED TO IT.
In that case, Simon, Trump was a comedian. It wasn’t a speech, but a private conversation where he was obviously trying to get cheap laughs. As I said, don’t read serious crimes into non-serious conversation.
That being said, I refer to the New York Time’s analysis of his actions over the past several years. He’s not a nice or good man by any means. However, that’s completely beside the point of this conversation.
‘he was obviously trying to get cheap laughs’
Well, actually he was trying to give a ‘heads-up’ to Billy Bush, and how if you’re rich there’s a certain breed of mercenary-type that will try to run up your credit card. This particular woman was after furniture, and when Trump realized what he was doing, he treated her like it.
Of course, Bush used it to try and screw him over.
None of which makes Trump either a sexual offender OR a liar. He’s a guy that made a pass at a woman (who was trying to take advantage of him), and got turned down, and then told the story to someone he made the mistake of trusting.
It may be a type of bluster, but certainly not harmless bluster.
NDT made a threat; a threat that ranks somewhere between bully and thug. Pretend progressives’ only shriek about being offended when subjects are people they do not like.
False emotions meant for over the top drama queen displays.
Do not doubt that the Secret Service fail to take appropriate notice. Secret Service do take threats seriously, and while they might overlook a free speech childish bully boast; the Secret Service will not overlook NGT’s reaching or movement towards Trump’s crotch.
Basing alleged intentions or actions from New York Times articles is akin to believing grocery store rumors; fact less, tactless and completely gullible.
Atheok, true. It is hypocritical of people that got angry over Trump’s comments to not be at least annoyed at Tyson’s. However, it goes the other way too. If you think Trump’s bus-hall banter is not a problem, then at the very least, Tyson’s is not a serious problem.
On the other hand, I will agree that Tyson, making a public statement of a threat to a specific person, is the more serious incident than Trump’s, However, we can’t stoop to their level and claim the higher ground.
No no no Paul. I can’t believe I have to explain this to you-
Grabbing someone’s crotch is a crime…UNLESS you grab someone’s crotch to “get their attention prior to discussing science with them”. Under those circumstances it is not a crime at all….more of an intellectual necessity. And it’s certainly not even inappropriate behavior when meeting with the President of the United States. I mean, we all know that Hillary has had Bill’s jewels in a tight grasp since the White House years….and it’s probably the reason Michelle kept “those amazing arms” nice and cut through the past 8 years. 🙂
snarkity snark snark
That’s the MSM slant that Trump did this without permission when Trump’s actual words where “And when you’re a star, they LET you do it. You can do anything.” So by this standard, Trump would have to be impressed enough by NGT that he would allow it without physical reaction by the Donald who claims to have grown up in a tough neighborhood and “loved to fight”. Or perhaps file a lawsuit, the funniest one being that with Bill Maher, where Maher said that he would donate $5 million to Trump’s chosen charity if he released a birth certificate proving his father was not an orangutan (thereby making a verbal contract). Trump provided the birth certificate but then Maher quickly pointed out that it was only a joke. Even so Maher routinely brings up the (dropped) lawsuit as evidence of Trump’s mental instability, of course without ever mentioning the details.
Eric,
‘TV Climate Advocate: …”
Very poor use of language, to me . . It’s climate ALARM he advocates, and you merely help your opponents’ cause by speaking as though he were right, and you wrong.
JohnKnight,
Neil deGrasse Tyson is more known as a TV Climate Advocate than an Alarmist. He is seen on the Science Channels “How the Universe Works,” where he is seen by millions.
He has also claimed on TV that Venus and the Earth were twins to begin with, but Venus had a runaway CO2 problem. That may be partially true, as it is covered with volcanoes, but he doesn’t even mention that it is also closer to the Sun.
William Sanford “Bill” Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson ……. are two (2) peas in the same pod.
Their primary forte is to be a “TV Star” and they will say and do most anything to insure their continued Stardom.
Neil deGrasse Tyson is pretty much forced to be a “fear-mongering” Climate Alarmist in order to maintain and preserve his “starring” role as a TV Climate Advocate. He can’t be the latter ….. without being the former.
Neil deGrasse Tyson has several millions of young, lefty liberal tree-hugging “greenie” wackos that believe every word he tells them …….. and the TV Advertisers know a “good thing” when they see one.
Venus and the Earth were twins to begin with, but Venus had a runaway CO2 problem.
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nonsense. at about 50km altitude the pressure and temperature of the atmosphere of Venus is about the same as the pressure and temperature at the earth’ surface, except that venus is somewhat warmer as it is closer to the sun.
However, at the surface of Venus, the pressure is 90 times the surface pressure of earth, and due to the lapse rate on venus (approx 9 C/km), the surface temperature of venus is approximately 450C (9 C/km * 50km) greater than the surface temperature of earth.
Samuel, you missed that oaf Brian Cox. Fits description perfectly.
I’ve always wondered how one advocates for climate?
Hurricane Deborah is really just misunderstood. If only she’d had more money when she was younger, she could have gone to a better school and wouldn’t have been forced to be a bully to get attention …
Roy, the astrophysicists that I’ve been reading are pretty much in agreement that Venus never cooled off enough so that the water could condense out of it’s atmosphere. It had nothing to do with the CO2, it has everything to do with the sun.
Eric, seriously, let the people know what the basic issue is, I say . . there are reasons your opponents don’t. ‘Climate science’ sounds ever so reasonable and agreeable . . ‘Climate panic’ not so much ; )
Another important fact to consider when discussing Venus’s surface temperature is that it only rotates once (1) every 243 Earth days ……. which means that extremely intense Solar irradiance is striking the planet’s surface for 121.5 continuous “24-hour” earth days.
I wonder what the Secret Service agents’ reaction time would be under these circumstances and what sort of a physical response should expect from these agents. I doubt that NDT would appreciate it. Might wrinkle his suit. Probably claim bias and threaten to sue.
It’s ok if you are famous and rich, you can assault anyone you want, it’s ok. As Donny boy says, he could gun down people outside his Towers and no-one would turn a hair. Welcome to the new and exciting US!
It really is sad the way socialists actually believe the lies they tell each other.
I truly can’t tell whether you are being sarcastic. I’m calling Poe’s law here.
I just hope Mr. Trump follows through with his climate agenda, and the sooner the better. I don’t really mind if NDT and his ilk want to keep raising the alarm. I just don’t want them doing it on my nickel. And I definitely want his ilk to quit messing with the nation’s temperature data. That is extremely irritating. If the temperature data needs to be adjusted, they must 1) save the original data; 2) explain why it needs adjustment; 3) publish the adjusting data and submit it for peer (not pal) review.
OOOHHH, the microagression!!!!! I need a safe space.
According to most socialists, it’s only democracy when they win.
I am a white heterosexual male, if it helps the USA, I’d grab Trump by the crotch too. I might get some carbon offset credits due to the sacrifice for all mankind.
It won’t help.
There’s also proof Trump is a racist: He’s given the black couple in the White House a 60-day eviction notice.
Why does it matter what colour your skin is?
Albedo. The lighter your skin, the more you sunlight you reflect back to space, and the less contribute to global warming. However, if you are dark-skinned, all is not lost: you may compensate by eating only white chocolate.
Low Albedo Lives Matter!
. . Especially yours, Simon, since you’re so transparent ; )
Black lives matter. !!
Do you REALLY subscribe to their meme that white lives don’t matter.
Bottom of the sewer stuff from Slimon.
Wow, the climate argument the left is scared to talk about. This is the REAL reason they are determined to keep Africa and India in poverty by enforcing “carbon” limits on them. If their populations explode as is expected in the next 50y, how will affect the Earth’s albedo?
The really important question is, ……
“Which evolved first, ….. the white-skinned hominoid …. or …. the dark-skinned hominoid?”
Non-diverse, Deplorable!
Why is Mr deGrasse Tyson so confident that he is going to meet Donald Trump? If Trump wants someone to perform the aforementioned act then he presumably has access to many other people who are able and possibly willing.
I would pay a dollar to see that! And 10 to see DJT smack him in the mouth afterwards. THAT would be must see TV!
Max Headroom was “20 seconds into the future” and 25 years ahead of it’s time.
The Board of Network 23 controlled the news and the newsmakers. All those “little
people” out in the Fringe areas could be ignored.
Sound familiar?
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Glad to see the classics still resonate! RS Brown? I do believe that was the point they were making, and people refused delivery, and here we are in 2016 watching the MSM come unglued when people have begun to laugh at them.
Or watch Donald Trump shave a few heads.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MMKFIHRpe7I
If/when Tyson meets President Trump, how about someone on the other side of the debate be there as well to see if Tyson can back up his rhetoric. Anthony, I think you would be perfect. Interested?
I was thinking along the same lines.
What exactly is the science he going to discuss with Trump?
I thought Mike Tyson supported Trump. He is the only Tyson most people are interested in!
So can this sexually obsessed “scientific expert” , actually define what he means when he says “Climate Change”?
Seems to me he is burbling on about CAGW.
Another progressive projecting his personal ignorance upon the unsuspecting masses.
If Climate Change is such a terror, I insist we reinstate the Laurentian Ice Sheet.
Obviously any deviation from a 100 000 years “normal” must be bad and as it happened a mere 20 000 years ago it must have been caused by mankind.
Did our ancestors domesticate huge methane belching mammoths…?
Save the planet recreate the ice age..
Wait around for a more few century’s & it will come to you…. read our history
This is the global temperature profile over the last 400,000 yrs
Red box = Last 12k yrs
http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/wp-content/files/2007/06/last_400000_years.png
Pretty close correlation and given that CO2 and temp definitely do affect each other, I wonder what will happen next.
Much to my surprise, crotch grabbing, apparently, means something to astrophysics – maybe it makes the “grabee” see stars; I had no idea this act had relavance to climate science as well.
/sarc
Indeed. Astrophysicists have their own internal language peculiar to the discipline just as climatologists do. “Nature trick” and “Hide the decline” are important technical slang just as “grab the crotch” is. It refers to gravitational pull in binary systems.
did I need a /sarc?
Perhaps in the crotch is where they hid the decline and are simply using the greeting to ensure that it’s still hiding
For the uniniated the term “Mass transfer in close binaries” can have unexpected conotations.
But isn’t that the same thing we were told would cause blindness if practiced on oneself????
This election has really brought out very childish behavior in a lot of people and It seems to have mostly stricken the liberal left.
It’s always been rampant on the left. The only thing different is that now the upper echelons are now engaging in it as well.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/21/scientists-who-are-actually-really-stupid-1-neil-degrasse-tyson/
With Bannon in the White House and this article on Breibart, who wants to place odds on lil ol’ NDT meeting the Pres?
Close to zero?
That may elevate the Carbon Moonie level of discourse, particularly if the Donald returns the favor. Neil needs something to jolt him out of his trance.
Stay classy, Neil.
This thug really talks like an astrophysicist, doesn’t he?
I’d like to know his IQ.
Probably 3 degrees above absolute zero
Or perhaps he is simply a dim watt. One certainly can’t be very bright and make a public statement like that
He is just trying to keep his Phony Baloney position playing a scientist on TV.
PaulH November 20, 2016 at 6:26 pm
I think he fears he is going to lose status and importance like Pluto did.
michael
Mike, maybe there’s an exo-scientist out there that dwarfs him?
By the sound of it, there are undoubtedly millions of ’em.
Would that make him a Minor Astrophysicist or an Astrophysitesimal
Neil deGrasse Tyson is a man obsessed with his own self-importance. If he truly was a champion of “science” then he would welcome healthy alternative research and debate on climate. He is a close-minded narcissist.
Gandi. Bingo!
“a man obsessed with his own self-importance”
No, he is obsessed with trying to FIND some self-importance.
Very much lacking at present.
Crotch grabbing is fine by me, seeing as Trump already has Tyson by the wallet. If you ask me, Trump already owns everything of Tyson that matters.
Well put, from my view. (+ many)
If N Tyson had ever actually looked into the issue he might know better.
Thermalization and the complete dominance of water vapor in reverse-thermalization explain why CO2 has no significant effect on climate. Terrestrial EMR absorbed by CO2 is effectively rerouted to space via water vapor.
CO2 is not merely harmless, it is profoundly helpful. It is helpful in that it is plant food and, perhaps more importantly, it reduces plant’s need for water.
Tyson might avoid embarrassment by sticking to his specialty, astronomy
These twerps are beyond embarrassment.
BLIND RELIGIOUS BELIEF.
He’s a progressive Cogic (Church of Omnipotent Greenhouse In Carbon).
So’s the Pope these days.
It is amazing these types are “directors” of any institute, let alone a planetarium. But then again I guess these types have had “stars” in their eyes for a long, long time. ( I think it is because they realize they’ll never be a star but can just look at them).
He just wants to be on TV like Sagan got to.
N Tyson is one letter short of an M Tyson, and we all know what happened to him when he attempted to bite Holyfield’s ear of, eh? These Tysons should shed their obsession with trying to tear off the body parts of their adversaries.
His words on that video reminds me of Adam Curtis’ “All watched over by machines with loving grace”. Tyson should learn about whats happened to science and politics in the last 50 years and consider rephrasing his words. Otherwise he is just speaking to people who should also watch that documentary and begin to understand that there has been a long line of tradition of politicians who have made careers embracing scams until the cash runs out and the people become wise as to why this is wrong.
We believe that the climate changes.
It’s catatrophic human made global warming horror that we don’t believe because there’s no scientific evidence or data that proves it.
There is only greed for poor people’s money that is scientifically provable.
When so-called “climate scientists™” talk about “climate change™” they mean ..
…. “catastrophic human CO2 caused climate change”.
That is their shorthand.
No-one denies that climate changes, although, over the last century or so it has been remarkably stable and benign.
“Change” is being used as a verb by most folks, not an adjective. “Climate is being changed by humans.” Natural climate change could better be described as “climate shift” which implies no impetus or cause.
They use the term on purpose.
Because they really think that people outside their bubble are dough heads.
Example.
Bill Gates said ” the mass population should not have a say in who governs them”.
The Club of Rome.
Read the manifesto it is avaiable.
Yes, “climatic shifts” would be more succinct because it describes more accurately what is going on. Heat on the globe shifts from region to region, both on land and in the oceans. But we still are looking at snapshots and multi-decadal clips instead of being able to watch the whole movie of global climate change. The entire enlightened Human experience is still much too short to allow us to have enough data collected to establish what controls the planetary cycles of temperature. The last 20 years establish no pattern worth calling anything except ENSO variation.
It’s a new form of global warming, grabbing someone’s globes.
We live in strange, troubled times.
Weird
Just goes to show that climate is an emotional issue. More passion than science.
Passion is more marketable than reason. This was shown by the actions of supporters of the losing POTUS candidate after the the election. Real, mundane science just can’t out-do sour-grapes temper fits when it comes to media attention.
Another pseudo expert elevated to his position by the ignorantii.
“the ignorantii”
Ooh, are they related to the castratii?
Same family tree. Just a different fork.
I am going to shamelessly steal that one! Mr Haigh, you sir are brilliant.
Don’t you mean the illiterati?
The illiterati and gliterati are two sides to the same coin.
This blowhard is not in a field of his own………..at least not all by himself. He has Brian Cox to keep him company. Perhaps together they can convince someone that imaginary make-believe is an “emergency”.
If “Mr Rogers” was still in the neighborhood, he could make-believe for them. They could stage a coup to dethrone King Friday.
Why, oh why did I make my kids watch PBS?
Would they make Donkey Hotee the new king?
Well, I do think Mr. Tyson needs some anatomy lessons first. Astronomy/Anatomy they do sound so similar.
If I understand the “CAGW” conjecture correctly it is the presence of “Greenhouse Gases” that is allegedly changing the climate.
I do believe those come from the posterior portion of the human anatomy. “Grabbing” the scrotum seems very unlikely to cause any little long term reduction in methane…..
Perhaps President Elect Trump (hee hee hee) can reciprocate by inserting a cork in Mr. Tyson’s lower “Greenhouse Gas” orifice…
And then a follow up with a cork in his mouth would be helpful as well….
Cheers, KevinK
Anyone who uses the phrase “climate denier” cannot call themselves a scientist, they are just a propagandist and deserve no respect.
Neil deGrasse Tyson saying that ” I’ll grab Trump by the crotch when I meet him ” is best described as ‘too much information.’
Neil Tyson just needs to present the facts. Raw data without “adjustments” and without UHI effect will clearly show these people that our climate is controlled by the sun and not by people. It is just as stupid to think that man can consciously slow global warming or global cooling. We can get rid of the pollution, but we can only watch the climate change.
Trump derangement syndrome is a sad thing to watch.
Actually I am enjoying it.
Up to a point. But it’s gotten repetitive and banal. Boring, in fact.
I don’t know, with the precipitous drop in temps over the last 72 hours me thinks the whinebabies are going to be disappearing. $15 an hour looks less attractive once it is below freezing and we soon will have to find something else to laugh at. CSPAN has some funny crap dribbling out of Democrat’s mouths, from time to time.
Rhoda R, then don’t watch it. Find a safe place, a coloring book, and some cocoa. Bored lives matter. 🙂
After listening to Tyson a few times on his show, and there and elsewhere having head his ignorant prattle about climate change, I’m starting to wonder how good a physicist he actually is. I mean, on the scientific front he sounds kind of uninformed. Are we sure he really is what he says he is?
Excellent question! I used to respect this man, but now I question his ability to evaluate empirical data and draw objective conclusions.
He’s been touted as the Richard Feynman of our time, yet it’s clear that he either doesn’t understand the scientific method or how to apply it properly.
I truly hope someone directs him to this thread so he can read these comments. As a scientist, he’s blowing it! Feynman would be soooo disappointed in him!
I dont think Feynman ever called anyone a “denier”. He might have said someone was wrong, but from what I’ve heard he was always polite about it.
That’s it in a nutshell Mr. Worrall.
With all due respect, Neil DeGrasse Tyson is no Richard Feynman.
“[Tyson has] been touted as the Richard Feynman of our time . . .”
An honest description of my opinion of any such tout wouldn’t get past moder@tion. To even mention Feynman’s name in the same sentence with that pretentious clown borders on sacrilege as far as I’m concerned.