The Philosophy of Climate Change

Guest essay by Leo Smith

Introduction

I decided to pen this, not because I am a ‘philosopher of climate change’ like the esteemed Rupert Read, whose self styled ‘philosophy of climate change’ is really a thinly disguised justification for Green politics, but because it appears to me that very very few people in the climate change business, actually understand why they need to understand a little philosophy to enable them to judge the climate change phenomenon – the social phenomenon that is – in a suitable context.

I am not a trained philosopher. I am an engineer, by training, but that was just a job. I have always retained a curiosity about other things, and part of that curiosity led me to try and understand the issues of philosophy as a part of something else I was engaged in, which has no bearing here.

I was moved to write this, because a short post as an obituary to one of the greatest philosophers of science ever – Hilary Putnam – received essentially no comment at all. I realised that not only did no one actually know who he was, but no one even recognised the importance of what he did.

What the philosophy of science does, and its part of what I want to introduce today, is to define what science is, and particularly what it is not, and to clearly delineate its limits. Since Climate Change is variously described here in disparaging terms as ‘Climate Sceance’, and ‘Scientastic methodology’ , It’s clear that many people have a gut feeling that Climate science is not ‘proper’ science. Also, a few years ago I was also involved in some online arguments with Creationists who declared that Creationism and Intelligent Design was equally valid a science as say Physics.

Finally, this gem caught my eye from Judith Curry’s site:

“In our post-modern world, climate science is not powerful because it is true: it is true because it is powerful.”

Lucas Bergkamp

All these examples show us that there is a problem: We feel that Science is being usurped by imposters, who are almost perpetrating a modern form of black magic with its tenets, and yet we can’t actually say why they are wrong…without which we can’t refute their arguments…and this is made worse by the conclusions of modern philosophers that actually, we don’t know and can’t know what is really real, because what we deal with is ‘Reality as a Social Construct’. This is taught to every good PPE. And a brief diversion into metaphysics is necessary at this point – a horribly crude one, but the attempt must be made – to outline what this actually means, and why it’s sort of true, but not the whole truth…

Reality as a Social Construct

I am going to assume everyone has seen the film The Matrix, about which I will say nothing beyond noting that it highlights a very real problem that has been at the basis of Metaphysical ponderings for millennia. Namely, how can we be sure that our perception and experience of the world, shows us what it really is, rather than some abstract model of it?

Or in fact, to go even further in the direction of what is called in Philosophy, Idealism. Throughout its history, Philosophy has veered from one extreme to the other, at times claiming that the material world, was merely a manifestation of Spirit, or Mind (Idealism), and at other times, claiming the exact opposite , that spirit and mind were merely what you get with physical beings as a property of what they are (Realism, especially Material Realism). If you like, Idealism said ‘what you see is what you (or God) create as a sort of illusion’ and the Realists said ‘what you see is what is really there, no need for all this god/spirit/consciousness rubbish. THAT is all an illusion…’. And no one could in fact decide which was which until the rise of Newtonian physics rather made it look like the Realists were onto something, and that by careful analysis of the material world, as it appeared to be, we could predict the future, in small but important ways.

And then Kant first, and then Schopenhauer put the spanner in the works by pointing out that the world, as it appeared to be, had to be at least partially a human construction. Now, two things are worth pointing out about that last sentence, and the first is that Kant and Schopenhauer and indeed their intellectual descendants were safely ignored by science, for the next 150 years or so, but their descendants were not ignored by more ‘social’ scientists. And the second is that all important qualifier – at least partially. Both Kant and Schopenhauer introduced the concept of (in Kant’s case) ‘Things in themselves’ – that is, what was ‘actually there’ beyond our mere perception of it, whilst Schopenhauer corrected that to ‘thing in itself’ claiming correctly that number and quantity were in fact part of the human construction, so we couldn’t say whether Reality consisted of one or many things!

Which is why today you will find social scientists glibly talking about reality as a social construct as if that were all it were, and scientists talking about reality being very nearly exactly what it seems to be, as if quantum physics had never been invented.

I personally grappled with these issues and came to a certain conclusion, and so I think did Hilary Putnam, before I even knew he existed, because neither model worked very well to describe the way science worked, especially quantum physics. And our resolution of the problem, expressed in as simple terms as it is possible to do, is basically this:

“We cannot know (lacking a Red Pill) whether we are in a Matrix, or not, and whether that Matrix is our own construction, someone else’s, or an aspect of what the world really is. So we cannot assume that our experience is ‘what is really there’ but on the other hand, to say that ‘all that is really there, is our own construction, implies that magic (control of Reality by Mind) ought to work, and it doesn’t. Therefore a model which says that there is something unknown and perhaps unknowable there, all right, but which we can only experience via self-constructed perceptions of it, seems to be the most efficient. And this is precisely what Kant and Schopenhauer said, and what quantum physics is revealing, and What Hilary Putnam said, and what I feel is worth trying to understand – namely that the world is in fact utterly weird and different from our experience of it, but all we have to work on is our mentally ‘socially constructed’ models of it. That is, we know our experience is limited, and less than the whole, and filtered by our own cultural prejudices, but that is all we have to go on”.

Of course the above, itself, is in fact just another model! And so is not ‘true’. But this brings me to one of the most fundamental issues that the philosophy of science has emphasised, are we actually looking for Truth, at all, when we Do Science?

Truth, Science and Occam’s Razor

People talk glibly about ‘scientific truth’. But, is there such a thing? Most philosophers would say no, there isn’t. And the way science is done, shows us why. Science begins in a view of the world – a model if you like – that starts with some ad hoc assumptions (the Kantian a-prioris) that we cannot know to be true. Namely that the world of our experience as a collection of ‘things’ in a space time universe where ‘stuff happens ‘ to change the experience of it over a a period of time, cannot in any way be shown to be correct. Nor indeed a further assumption, that in fact these changes are brought about by timeless Eternal Rules, what we would call the laws of Nature, or Physics, operating mathematically and exactly to turn the present into the future, via Causality.

But in order to ‘do science’ we have to assume that they are true. Which is why they are referred to as ‘metaphysics’ and ‘a priori‘ because they are ‘beyond physics’ and ‘before the fact’ of science.

Science made a huge impact on the philosophy of its day, because in spite of these objections to it, which were quite well understood by the theologians and philosophers of the day, it worked, and worked spectacularly well. And is is that success that led its protagonists, from Galileo to Dawkins, to claim that must mean it was True. And to this day the ‘social sciences’ are trying to emulate its successes and claim some truth content thereby, by calling themselves sciences, a condition known as ‘physics envy’.

And from there, it was but a short step from observing that one didn’t need to ‘believe on God’ to ‘do science’ which worked, to thereby claim that therefore God did not exist. But that’s a whole new can of worms.

Let me state the position that I believe Philosophy of Science to be in. The fact that Science works, when operating on the ‘rational materialist’ model that it has to assume is the case, neither ‘proves’ that the inductive hypotheses that it posits are ‘true’ or that indeed the whole rational materialist edifice upon which it all rests, is in fact valid metaphysics at all!

And this is where the pseudo-scientists and religious fundamentalists step in to say ‘well it’s all just another belief system, innit?’, and claim that it’s therefore no better than ‘climate science’ or ‘creationism’. Or ‘my little Jihad’..

And in a limited sense they are right! But there is one thing that separates proper science from the rest, and that is that it works! Yes, behind all the formulae and the mumbo jumbo that it seems to be, if you take the rational materialist’s world view, and operate upon it scientifically, you get to predict the future, more or less. The ‘planets’ will be where you thought they would, experiment will more or less produce the predicted results, and science based technology will mostly just ‘work’ as evinced by the fact that I can type this, and you can read it.

And that in the end is the only defence Science has to offer. Not that it’s true, or has any ‘truth content’ at all – although some still claim that the fact that it works is ‘strong evidence’ that its ‘true’ more or less – but that it works. And when it stops working, that’s a sign that it’s no longer science, or is refuted science. A proposition that didn’t produce predictions that matched reality…

The acknowledgement of this utter inability to provide any sort of proof of being true, is what the widely quoted and usually totally misunderstood ‘Occam’s Razor’ is all about. What the monk William of Ockham actually said was roughly “apart from God and the Holy Scriptures, and things that are self-evidently True, we should not construct elaborate fancies to explain things when simple ones are just as good”. This is widely misunderstood to mean that the simple explanations are the true ones. That was never Occam’s point. His point was all about utility – not truth content.

And that really sums up the second part of this diversion into philosophy: Science isn’t true, it’s what works to predict the future, and if it fails to work, it’s not Science any more. Creationism, Intelligent Design, and My Little Jihad, don’t predict the future. In fact they don’t actually even set out to predict the future. They are therefore Not Science. And not on a par with science. Insofar as Climate Science does set out to predict the future, its failed, or refuted science, because it’s failed to predict it accurately or usefully, and, insofar as it never was really intended to predict the future, it’s just another metaphysical position entirely on a par with Creationism, Intelligent Design, and My Little Jihad.

And that brings me to the final point I want to try and make, as to how philosophy, and in particular the a priori model of the sort of metaphysics that I, and I believe Hilary Putnam, espoused, can make sense of the socio-political narratives of climate change alarmism. And indeed very much of the politics of what is generally termed the Left, which is inextricably linked to it, as well as the Religious Right.

Morality as a Social Construct – the Emotional Narrative.

When I described the function and purpose of what I consider to be Science, what is perhaps startling is that in the end, the only value judgement I applied, or indeed feel I can apply, to it, is that it just works.

And this brings me to a peculiar moral position. Morality, more than physical reality, is a social construct. Moreover its not based on anything beyond humanity. Does the Universe care if we live, love, die, or were never born?

Only if you believe in an Anthropic God.

Otherwise it is simply not possible to distinguish right from wrong, good from evil, in any absolute sense. And yet our media is awash with narratives – emotional narratives – exhorting us to ‘Do the Right Thing’. But what actually is The Right Thing? Where can we find some objective yardstick for moral behaviour? Scriptures? The Democrat Party or the UK Labour Party? The Koran?

What light does the metaphysical model outlined earlier shed on the issues of right and wrong, good and bad?

Almost, but not completely, none. It has no concept of a morality in the traditional sense, it, like science, is totally amoral. But just as we arrive at a justification for Science in terms of its utility, we arrive at something like a moral position in terms of utility, too…

…It is conventional wisdom that Darwin’s theory of evolution leads to a sort of law called ‘survival of the fittest’ . However on closer inspection, that sort of Nietzschian perspective is shown to be false as well. What is actually the deductible corollary of the Theory of Evolution, is that it only leads to eradication of that which is so counter-survival, that the young of the species do not live long enough to reproduce themselves.

And that is why we still have appendices. They haven’t killed us. Yet. Mostly.

This basic principle, that ‘That which persists, is that which is not sufficiently dysfunctional to create its own downfall is a very important point to note, because it explains in a way why this is the worst of all possible worlds. It simply only needs to be that good, to keep ticking over.

If we apply it to humans and their socially accepted ideas, not just about the nature of physical reality, but the nature of the sort of moral and social reality which is the sandpit of the Intellectual Left, and of course those involved in proselytising Religions, like Radical Islam (My Little Jihad) and Creationism, we can see that any sort of elaborate nonsense, provided it doesn’t lead to complete mass suicide, is as good as any other, especially in a socialist post-modern industrialist society with welfare, where frankly all you need to do to survive is work out how to game the system for the welfare, and walk to McDonalds. What you happen to believe – whether you are in fact God’s chosen ones, or the dregs of society – is a free choice at the functional level. As long as it doesn’t make you sufficiently depressed to kill yourself before Having Sex, and Making Babies, it’s cool!

And if you have a Vote, or a pocketful of Someone Else’s Money, given to you by a Compassionate Caring State (allegedly), why then, if someone wants that money or that vote, and are not particular about how they get it, they will tell you anything you want to hear, and basically what that means is they will tailor an emotional narrative to exactly make you feel as good about yourself as possible, and sell it to you. Or one to make you feel as bad about yourself as possible, and sell you the antidote!

Whatever.

c.f. Marxism as the classic example. You the mass of voters are miserable, because they, the few people who have a bit of cash, are oppressing you, and so by revolting against them, you will all be as rich as they were before you took all their money. Or the State did, on your behalf.

The problem with selling you a reality that makes you feel good about yourself – ‘God loves you: Chill!’ is that you can’t actually really sell a product based on that. All the best marketing comes from identifying, or if not creating basic needs that the product will satisfy. Over and over.

Until Colgate, no one brushed their teeth twice a day, let alone after every meal, and if they did, they used salt. The Genius of Colgate, ‘For people who can’t brush their teeth after every meal’ was the subtle implication of guilt if you didn’t do that (and who did?) and the instant catapulting of Colgate Toothpaste into the top brand arena…

Prior to the invention of Radio, then TV, of course there wasn’t much opportunity for all this. OK we had religion, and could sell ‘indulgences’ to free people from sin, and pieces of the One True Cross. And saint’s bones and the like, all of which were profitable, but there are only so many bits of The One True Cross that you can sell.

But with the invention of the Printing Press, the Radio, and the State Broadcast, all this stuff – previously the province of either priests chanting in the Churches, or hedge witches muttering curses under their breath, in the pagan arena, this became a billion dollar business, and the primary means by which nation states that didn’t want to actually start a real war, fought each other. As an offshoot of the Great Game, propaganda and marketing became the primary weapon of war of all power blocs, and parties with aspirations. Less a Game of Thrones and more a Game of Lies.

And the reason is simple. Morality and emotion are in the end human constructs, and so are all the beliefs about rights and wrongs, good and bad, and so on, and have absolutely no objective Truth at all. When I talked about Idealism and Realism, it was with respect to the science of the material world, which I posited did at least represent something external, beyond human construction.

Where morality is concerned, however, there is nothing. Not if we are considering it as rational beings. We need to posit an external physical world in some sense, to make sense of everything, but there is no need whatsoever to posit an external moral standard. And that is the frightening and appalling truth that people find very hard to stomach, and why they find it easier to behave as if there were such a standard, and what we can say is that societies that have such cultural patterns, that behave as if there were some moral standard, are less dysfunctional than those that do not. If this is sounding a bit Nietzschian, and God forbid, Third Reich-ish, you are right. Societies bound by common beliefs that are strong, and beliefs not so fallacious as to ensure their destruction, are likely to trample all over societies that really can’t say any more what is right or wrong. My Little Jihad trumps Western Liberalism, Western Liberalism trumps careful scientific scepticism, because at a given level, they are simple clear and cohesive messages.

Not because they are true, or even morally right, but because they have a momentum and a quality that makes them successful.

And this is, I would aver, precisely where we are with Climate Change, the socio-political phenomenon. Most people do not know the truth of whether it’s science or not, or whether it is true or not, even if it is science. And, most tellingly, most people do not care. Because in the field of human behaviour, voting and spending power is deployed not according to what is true, but according to what people (want to) believe to be true, or can be manipulated to believe to be true, and those can be poles apart. And Climate Alarmists are simply acceding to this position, They either don’t know that they are lying, or they actually don’t care if they are lying, because lying actually gets them, personally, a better life, than the truth!

It’s only when we have to deal with the physical reality of the world, that the truth has any point to it.

False beliefs spin no turbines, but they can spin the economies and politics and religions of this world indefinitely. So long as they are not so dysfunctional as to result in “no sex and no propagation”.

And the wonderful post Christian compassionate Welfare States that we have built, with the best of intentions, have resulted in a population who can believe in almost anything, from Aromatherapy to Zoroastrianism, without it actually being a huge problem for their survival.

Until the wind drops, the turbines stop and Physical Reality kicks them in the pants.

Then the law of eradication of that which is counter-survival will happen, and billions will die.

Up till now, the questions have been:

Do you want to be:

(a) On the winning side?

(b) Morally right ?

and

(c) Scientifically correct?

(d) Alive?

And by choosing climate alarmism most people felt they made (a) and (b) and hoped that if (c) were true, (d) would result.

But a careful recourse to sceptical philosophy, shows that (c) is almost certainly wrong, and because it’s wrong, (d) becomes a real issue, and because (d) is a real issue, it’s not so clear that (a) accrues either. And who cares about being morally right, if you’re scientifically wrong, on the losing side, and dead?

The very great danger that we face, is that political propaganda, hearts and minds, and all that, has gone too far. Much too far. It’s one thing to sell toothpaste to guilty teeth-brushers, but to sell wind turbines and Carbon Credits to guilty Ecos, is pushing it. And if the total inanity and confusion with which the Left have flooded Western Society for the last two generations has resulted in a society that no longer knows what it believes in, or why, and where anything it feels is probably wrong in someone’s moral handbook, and is too polite and nice to say ‘so what?’, proves to have basically resulted in no ability to cohesively resist forces which will destroy it, well, so, it will be destroyed. There comes a point at which dysfunctionality will destroy a society that is full of crazy ideas and has no idea how to keep itself alive.

A simple message went out: “Climate change threatens our very existence, because it is true”.

We need to reverse that with a simple statement: “Climate change threatens our very existence, because it isn’t true”.

And if you want voting guidance, remember that all you are voting for is always going to be a pack of lies, no matter who is telling it. Just vote for the most amusing liars, and the ones that look too incompetent to wreck everything, and hope that someone somewhere has the intelligence to realise that it is in the end it is not in anyone’s best interest to destroy the world in pursuit of power and profit, no matter how much they tell you that that is in fact exactly what they are trying to prevent.

In conclusion

It has been interesting trying to compress a lifetime’s personal journey, into just a few pages, and focus the impact down to a very selective target audience. What I really hope to have done, is to show why and in what way some of the more interesting aspects of metaphysics are really important in terms of real-life/here-now issues.

Metaphysics is, in itself, the study of the assumptions we have to make in order to be able to think and talk about the world at all, the concepts and ideas and prejudices that underpin our idea of ‘what the world consists of’. It has gone out of fashion because after millennia of argument, the modern philosophers decided that it wasn’t possible to decide what the One True Picture really was, and that argument was therefore pointless. If I read him aright, that’s probably where Wittgenstein left the matter. However as an engineer, I am not interested in the One True Picture, just a useful picture (or indeed pictures) that work, to solve the problems I encounter. And that is where I find value in metaphysics, in the construction of pragmatic metaphysical systems, that actually solve problems. These metaphysical systems are of course just models, and therefore can never be proven to be true, all one can hope for is that the insights they provide and the pictures they produce help to solve immediate problems.

Hilary Putnam was the philosopher who most seemed to be taking a similar approach. Unsurprisingly since he was working with physicists at the edge of quantum theory to try and make sense of the ‘facts’ of quantum physics and reconcile them with the ‘facts’ of ordinary common sense, a similar conflict led me to similar territory. Namely the hypothesis that the world we experience as individuals and indeed cultures, is a model, that is limited in scope, thoroughly and inevitably steeped in prejudice, and is an unknown and unknowable distance from ‘the Truth’. It is that dreaded Social Construct . And conflicts arise because we deny this. Once we acknowledge the terrifying truth that everybody lives in their own world, and that stuff which they will swear is Real and the Truth, is to other people, simply perplexing rubbish, because they are employing a different metaphysical set of assumptions about it, most of the conflicts disappear.

It is the humility needed to accept that science is not truth, on the one hand, but neither is the moral high ground of the ‘Liberal Arts’ crowd either. There is an apocryphal joke that sums it up:

“When I want to get somewhere, the last form of transport I would choose is a Harley Davidson”

“But when I am awn ma Hog, I am already exactly where I wanna be!”.

And there, in a nutshell we have it. In the absence of an external point of moral reference, we need the emotional narratives to somehow inform us at a personal level of where we want to be. But in terms of getting there, we have to throw out the left brain, and invoke the right brain, to arrive. The mistake of the adherents of the Left, is that they fail to do this. The mistake of the adherents of the Right, is that they don’t actually know where they want to go.

Perhaps Western technology came so fast that we were spoiled for choice as to where we should go, and that explains the rise and rise of the ’emotional’ side of ourselves, as we desperately looked for reasons why we should or shouldn’t deploy the technology in terms of creating a ‘better future’ without really knowing what that meant, until it arrived. And found that perhaps after all it wasn’t better. Just bigger. A telling point is, that as compared with say a generation ago, the biggest killer of young males is no longer road accidents, but suicide.

We have lost the emotional certainties of a cohesive religious culture, and thrown open the door to any and every kind of nonsense, all competing for space in our brains, and most of which is marketed to strip the individual of his vote or his cash, or both.

I have no solution, other than to reiterate what I answered in reply to “You claim to be an Atheist, or at least an Agnostic, yet seem to behave as a better Christian than most churchgoers. How come?”

“Because I think it’s a better way to live, to behave as if there were a God, as if there were some judgement over one’s life, and not only does it make me personally feel better, it creates a cohesive humble and co-operative and strong society. Why can’t we accept paying lip-service to a religion we don’t believe in, on the grounds that its simply a good thing for us, and society to do, for our own survival?”

Where metaphysics is concerned, we are compelled to behave as if the a priori assumptions we make about the world are in fact ‘true’.

In the end, my point is that we can’t prove that they are, and they may not be, so we should not prosecute our deductions from those assumptions with the zeal of certainty. But neither should we give up. They may not be the Truth, but they are, used correctly, nearer true than anything else we have to hand. And what is manifestly and demonstrably false is when we hypothesise a structure that claims to explain and predict some aspect of the metaphysical position we have already taken, when in fact it does nothing of the sort. AGW fails to actually pass the tests of a scientific theory.

There is no moral compass. But there is a pragmatic one. It is the one that gets us where we want to go, and its name is Science and Reason. It can’t help with deciding where we want to go, but it can once we have decided that, tell us how to get there efficiently. If applied correctly.

There is no way we can know absolute truth, but, inside of a set of metaphysical assumptions, we can tell if some hypotheses are less true than others, because they don’t actually work.

It’s a pretty lousy set of criteria on which to base the survival of a whole species, but friends, in the end, that is all we have got. Put your trust in what works. Not because [it is] true, but because [it] is not demonstrably false. Yet.

And hope that you have not simply found a temporarily advantageous metaphysics.

The one and only cautionary picture belongs here.

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March 31, 2016 2:49 pm

There is an excellent book on the “social constructivism” and the anti-scientific attitude of the new Left: Higher Superstition ∙ The Academic Left and Its Quarrels with Science, Paul R. Gross & Norman Levitt, 1994 – 1998.

Marcus
Reply to  Leo Goldstein
March 31, 2016 2:55 pm

..Ever notice that ALL the believers in Scientology are from the left ?? Nuff said !

chris moffatt
Reply to  Marcus
March 31, 2016 6:22 pm

No – I thought they were mostly rightists. The few I’ve known are.

Reply to  Leo Goldstein
March 31, 2016 3:14 pm

Thank you for the reference.

Mark from the Midwest
Reply to  Leo Goldstein
March 31, 2016 4:03 pm

Gross and Levitt, along with Martin Lewis, are also editors of another excellent book titled: The Flight From Science and Reason, published in 1997 by John Hopkins Press, there is a section on Environmentalism that is as timely for the Climate debate today as anything recently written.

Santa Baby
Reply to  Leo Goldstein
March 31, 2016 9:44 pm

The human problem is our abstract thinking ability in a body born with instincts and needs. We are not looking for what is TRUE. We are looking for what we want.

rogerknights
Reply to  Santa Baby
March 31, 2016 10:34 pm

Surely it’s obvious
Doesn’t every schoolboy know it?
Ends are ape-chosen
Only the means are mans’
—Aldous Huxley

Reply to  Leo Goldstein
April 1, 2016 6:29 am

People could calm down just by remembering that “climate change” is a double abstraction.
https://rclutz.wordpress.com/2015/10/26/what-is-climate-is-it-changing/

Chuck Donaldson
Reply to  Leo Goldstein
April 1, 2016 11:33 am

I think this article is terrible. It concedes to Kant that humans cannot know reality, that they can only know a piece of it and even that piece is “filtered” by “categorical imperatives” thus we can never know the “truth” even through science. Maybe you should read ” The Evidence of the Senses” by David Kelly which clarifies the “Realist” position on reality. The article sounds like the primacy of consciousness that man makes up reality and that reality is not “real” or objective, it’s just one opinion out of many and thus any groups claim to truth is just as true as any other. This is a terrible thing to concede to environmentalists or mystics or any political philosophy that claims a “right” to your wealth and to distribute it to anyone who doesn’t have it.

Reply to  Chuck Donaldson
April 1, 2016 12:42 pm

and that reality is not “real”

IMO Results from Wheelers Delayed Choice experiments and Relativity, almost require it to not be all that real. Others argue it means no such thing, To me it seems they are grasping at straws.

Nick Linnear
Reply to  Chuck Donaldson
April 2, 2016 8:11 pm

We are born with amnesia and spend the rest of our lives poking throught the fog to see what is really going on.

Marcus
March 31, 2016 2:53 pm

Typing error Leo…. ” Not because its true, but because is isn’t demonstrably false. Yet. ” ..IS should be IT, I would think !

Gregory
Reply to  Marcus
April 1, 2016 10:52 pm

One of many. I lost count. Proofreaders are a thing.

Dinsdale
March 31, 2016 2:55 pm

David Wootton defined science quite well: “Science offers reliable knowledge (that is, reliable prediction and control), not truth.” In a nutshell that’s why today’s “climate science” and any public policy derived from it bad.

Science or Fiction
Reply to  Dinsdale
April 1, 2016 3:03 pm

I like that – or even shorter: Science offers reliable prediction. – that´s all there really is to it – I think.

RHS
March 31, 2016 2:56 pm

The perception of reality is reality. Based on that, how does one go about wanting to change their perception? While possible, it is not probable with a true believer.

marnof
Reply to  RHS
March 31, 2016 3:06 pm

A good place to start would be influencing or controlling print, TV and Internet media. Perhaps student curriculum could be adjusted as well.

Reply to  marnof
March 31, 2016 3:26 pm

A good place to start would be influencing or controlling print, TV and Internet media. Perhaps student curriculum could be adjusted as well
Rather “A good place to start would be to stop influencing or controlling print, TV and Internet media. Perhaps student curriculum could be adjusted as well.”
I have come to the conclusions that the only thing that can possibly work, is precisely what we are doping here, and that is engaging in dialogue as the ancient Greeks did, in the hope that the best ideas, whatever that means, will triumph over bad ones.
All of the for-profit outlets are peddling stuff that accords with the wishes of their paymasters. That should be taken for granted.
WE need to point that out, and provide a counter culture, knowing that it too, will one day get taken over by the powers that be, and perverted just as the Green movement has been.
Sic transit Gloria Mundi

Reply to  RHS
March 31, 2016 3:20 pm

You have missed the whole point. The perception of reality is NOT reality. And that’s how changes in perception have to occur. When the mental model fails to be congruent with what happens, the perception of reality is seen to be wrong.
The point at which that, rather than cognitive dissonance (denial) occurs varies between individuals.
Another tipping point is Kuhn’s ‘paradigm shift’ where suddenly a new way of looking at things makes so much MORE sense than the old, that it becomes the new paradigm.
I suppose that’s what I am trying to engineer here, a paradigm shift, so that we look at Climate change the social phenomenon with new eyes, and see it more clearly and indeed more sympathetically.
I do not claim that this is a BETTER or MORE TRUE way of seeing it, just a more productive one, of course 😉

Michael of Oz
Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 4:05 pm

Location, location, location.
I would ask for the physical location of the truth that supports the assertion. See how long it takes for a person to point to their own head.

Goldrider
Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 7:05 pm

Leo, you’re both erudite and sincere, and I hope your brain doesn’t hurt from writing all that. Mine is starting to smoke from READING it . . . 😉
Here’s the thing: Step off the roof, you find out PDQ that gravity “works.” Go out and stand under a dark woolly cloud, the ice cold rain runs down your neck. Stand in the sun long enough, get warm. “Science” began with simple “experiments” like these when we still lived in caves, and proceeded from there. BTW–all of the above work whether or not one is man, beast, “moral,” depraved, or has an agenda.
“Morality” is a moving target, culturally constructed, and when you start lifting up the rocks always has a hidden element of pragmatism. In the days when laws enforced primogeniture, virgin brides and fidelity were prioritized. Producing many sons was vital to hand-work agriculture for centuries. When women were incapable of living economically independent lives, the culture proscribed them. When the infant mortality rate was high, “alternative” sexualities and non-procreative acts were forbidden. Since NONE of those conditions pertain today, the moral codes in the West have loosened rather noticeably.
For a generation now, a concerted effort has been made by our “elite” culture-makers to instill Green Malthusianism as a morally-enforced norm. They attempted to enlist “science” as proof of the practical necessity, and their “moral” position is now endangered (dare I say, absurd) because the “science” has proven no such thing–indeed, it has proven its polar opposite. It is no accident that the only people still pushing this are actors, musicians, politicians, propagandists, and those in their pay.
What’s really going to call the shots here is the same thing that always has–THE MONEY. And as a libertarian entrepreneur, I have MUCH faith that people are going to “do the right thing” that is profitable, not counter-productive, due to the fact that losing money is a HUGE and universal disincentive!
My upscale town is just ROTTEN with Elitists and their sycophantic wannabes, and I can tell you that currently concern about “climate change” is running far behind “concern” about erectile dysfunction, Kasich’s presidential chances, or catching MRSA at the gym. A few folks advertise their disposable income by plopping the ugly solar panels on their roof for Conspicuous Green Cred, but that’s about as far as it goes. And if it didn’t lower the electric bill for their home theaters, 9,000 KW all-night “security” lights, and electrically-heated spas, they wouldn’t have bothered, believe me!
I think the very idea of “moral panic” about a natural phenomenon that takes thousands, sometimes millions of years to wax and wane is–well, rather strange. The idea humans own the “thermostat” to control it is even stranger. People now realize they’ve been had, AGW has failed the “silliness” test.

KevinK
Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 8:00 pm

I burnt out a clutch once during a “paradigm shift”, ha ha ha….
“reality is just a collective hunch” (I forget who coined that phrase first, Lilly Tomlin perhaps ?, but she is due all the credit).
The reality (even though some folks with very vested interests cannot ever realize/admit it) is that there is no realistic observable evidence that Man made emissions of “greenhouse gases” are having any effect at all. None, zilch, nil, nodda, “one divided by infinity”, “zero point sh-t”…….
There must be another explanation. There must be an alternative hypothesis that explains why “IR absorbing gases” (AKA “Greenhouse Gases”) are not demonstrating their overwhelming and awe inspiring ability to “control the temperature”.
Cheers, KevinK.

Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 6:36 am

Goldrider, you are in good and ancient company in separating morality and the physical world.
“He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.”
Gospel According to Matthew
There is some rebuke there for those claiming we can not know the world apart from our own perceptions.

Owen in GA
Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 6:55 am

Goldrider,
really? 9000 kW security lights? Haven’t these people heard of LED security lights? My house had the Halogen ones when I bought it and I converted them all to LED. The LEDs are rated for higher lumen output yet my electric draw went from 2 kW to 56 W. What’s more, the new ones have a built in ambient light sensor to only come on when it is dark. Convenience and savings in the same package! I could probably put a couple of solar panels on the roof and even run them “for free” as the greenies like to think. Of course we all know that the non-subsidy payback time for them is essentially never since they wear out before the difference in electric bills can even come close to paying for their purchase and installation.
Of course if you live somewhere like California where they are going to tax you to death anyway and run your rates through the roof, the economics change – take the money and run, it works within the paradigm of the society, but is it leading to a case of that which leads to destruction?

March 31, 2016 3:14 pm

Yes Ari, a Book I meant to mention in a similar vein was ‘Why Truth Matters’
http://www.amazon.com/Why-Truth-Matters-Jeremy-Stangroom/dp/0826495281
I think this was the first time I found the concept that whilst we can lie to ourselves and each other endlessly, we can’t lie to the physical world, Or at least we can, but it ain’t listening.
Engineers are somewhat proof against human BS, because they spend a lot of their time dealing with stuff that simply wont tolerate it, And they also have a value system geared towards that which works, as much as that which is elegant, beautiful, or profitable.
And engineer, it is said, is someone who can do for five bob what any damned fool can do for a quid. (or these days, a renewable energy company, for half a billion).
I do think its important that we understand what is going on with the ‘opposition’ and whether they are ‘evil’ liars, deluded, or simply operating from a different perspective.

PiperPaul
Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 5:00 pm

I do think its important that we understand what is going on with the ‘opposition’…
They are mostly 1) the fearful and 2) the opportunists taking advantage of the A) fearful and B) those wishing to appear virtuous.

Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 11:18 pm

An engineer, it is said, is someone who can do for five bob what any damned fool can do for a quid. (or these days, a renewable energy company, for half a billion).
My father, who designed machines to make things, used the same expression (only being less well off, he said for sixpence and a shilling!). Thanks for reminding me of him.
Thanks Leo for an interesting and informative essay.
The problem, as I see it, is that the Climate Change Industry actually does work. It produces employment, travel opportunities and Nobel prizes for people who couldn’t not otherwise have any hope of achieving them. It allows hundreds of thousands more to signal their virtue with absurd statements from the decks of their private yachts or their first class aeroplane seats. And millions more to agree with their ‘heroes’ and so feel good about themselves.
That is what we need to fix, and ridicule is about the only weapon we have, since the money continues to flow from our pockets into theirs, however often people with more intelligence and experience than I try to do, on sites like this, which act as beacons of rationality in a world seemingly gone mad.
Until we stop climate change working for these people, and they are many, we will continue to waste money, time & resources to the detriment of human progress everywhere.

Science or Fiction
Reply to  Soarer (@FastComm)
April 1, 2016 3:26 pm

Well said. I think Leo nailed the challenge at hand with his quote:
“What is actually the deductible corollary of the Theory of Evolution, is that it only leads to eradication of that which is so counter-survival, that the young of the species do not live long enough to reproduce themselves.”
That goes for ideas, hypothesis and theories too. And that, I think, is the reason behind Karl Popper saying:
“what characterizes the empirical method is its manner of exposing to falsification, in every conceivable way, the system to be tested. Its aim is not to save the lives of untenable systems but … exposing them all to the fiercest struggle for survival.”
And that is what I the principle I wish United Nations had enforced upon IPCC.

Santa Baby
Reply to  Soarer (@FastComm)
April 1, 2016 11:19 pm

UN did not establish UNEP, UNFCCC and IPCC to fix the climate. They where established to fix the Western World.

Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 2:27 pm

Leo, first great article. Very insightful and well written. It would be nice for it to find a larger audience.
You write:

I do think its important that we understand what is going on with the ‘opposition’ and whether they are ‘evil’ liars, deluded, or simply operating from a different perspective.

I’ve puzzled over this too, and from what I think may be the same perspective, which is an interest in figuring out how to reach them before its too late. For me, too late may not happen anyway, though I still have concerns for my children.
My experience on social networks is limited to the comments section of various web sites like the Washington Post and the New York Times. I don’t have much face to face contact with proponents of CAGW. But what I believe I’ve learned is they’re driven by a desire to appear virtuous and also a desire to be recognized as intellectuals who are better informed than their opponents. These are the same motives we see in the Cleric class and I think it’s why the Movement rapidly took on a religious rather than scientific stance in society. I base this on their refusal to actually argue scientific evidence, instead sticking to dogma and attacking all opposing views with ad hominem. I’ve yet to engage a defender of AGW in a real evidence based debate and I’ve actually been bared from supposedly scientific web sites for using references to the
So how do you “convert” people like this? I don’t think you can. After almost 10 years of trying all sorts of approaches, I can’t say I’ve found one that works for me. In all honesty, it’s been more frequent for me to be temporarily swayed by a pro-AGW position than it has been for me to sway an opponent. This is a short lived event since it always turns out to be a hoked up example of junk science if not an outright lie, still it can lead to uncomfortable moments.
The problem is they’ve completely abandoned rational thought, making it impossible to convince them using rational argument. As you point out, it’s what they want to believe and they won’t be confused by facts.
The closest I’ve been able to come is to try re-directing them to some other activity that doesn’t threaten survival of our species and still satisfies their desire to appear virtuous and superior (justifying arrogance). I point out that the climate is no doubt warming and there’s likely nothing that can be done about it, so wouldn’t it make more sense to concentrate on some other virtuous thing like feeding the hungry. Once and a while it seems to work but I have no idea how long it lasts.
They have no real fear of having their theories proven wrong. They make their predictions in 30 to 100 year time frames and change them constantly. It won’t ever be possible to convincingly demonstrate their “science” isn’t to the scientifically illiterate. I believe at least the more Machiavellian of them understand and use this. The basic prime time TV crowd have the memory of a carrot and never notice this. On top of it all, the media love a good pissing contest and are going to keep this going as long as it sells advertising.
I think the highest and best hope is the general population get tired of the show and lose interest, after which we’ll have another manufactured crisis, hopefully one with a proposed solution that doesn’t present an existential threat to humanity, because it seems to me these folks are dumb as lemmings and would be happy to go over a cliff on demand.

Reply to  Bartleby
April 1, 2016 11:19 pm

@Bartleby
Excellent comment, sir! I could not agree more with you. And your comment:

But what I believe I’ve learned is they’re driven by a desire to appear virtuous and also a desire to be recognized as intellectuals who are better informed than their opponents. These are the same motives we see in the Cleric class and I think it’s why the Movement rapidly took on a religious rather than scientific stance in society. I base this on their refusal to actually argue scientific evidence, instead sticking to dogma and attacking all opposing views with ad hominem

fits the situation with trying to have a reasoned discussion with ‘believers’, perfectly.

Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 10:56 pm

leo –
There’s one more motivator I hypothesize but don’t really have any proof of. It’s based on a vague sense I’ve gotten after years of conversing with alarmists. I think alarmism give meaning to their lives. I can’t be sure but I think many are relatively young, in their twenties and early thirties, some even younger. I get the feeling they haven’t found a sense of accomplishment or purpose in their other endeavors.

commieBob
March 31, 2016 3:20 pm

Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) Alan Sokal

Reply to  commieBob
March 31, 2016 3:44 pm


Superb! I am going to steal that one for my ‘book of aphorisms’.

Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 6:30 pm

To our surprise, Alan Sokal supports climate alarmism. His political allegiance has prevailed over his love of science.

Greg
Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 1:23 am

Perhaps, when he wrote that, he did not anticipate the rush of people that would come up to his apartment !
When lots of pretty young meat turned up to the party, maybe he figured it would be fun to play along, rather than remaining a grumpy old celibate philosopher.

ulriclyons
March 31, 2016 3:20 pm

“We feel that Science is being usurped by imposters, who are almost perpetrating a modern form of black magic with its tenets, and yet we can’t actually say why they are wrong…”
We can say why they are wrong, if CO2 was driving climate change, then it should be forcing a more poleward jet stream track. That would keep the AMO and Arctic cooler. The increase in negative North Atlantic Oscillation since the mid 1990’s driving the warm AMO and Arctic is completely the wrong sign to associate with increased GHG forcing of the climate.
http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch10s10-3-5-6.html

PB
March 31, 2016 3:25 pm

I fear you may be right… You are not a trained philosopher.

Reply to  PB
March 31, 2016 4:38 pm

Poor response, PB.

Reply to  PB
March 31, 2016 6:06 pm

PB, so what is your criticism? You may have been given a superb education but, as the old saw goes: Pearls before…..

Reply to  PB
March 31, 2016 6:19 pm

No fear about it mate. I never studied at at college, I picked it all up by working it out from first principles.
Which means I don’t use words in the ‘accepted’ way, but it doesn’t mean that what I worked out is invalid.
And maybe not being lumbered down with two millennia of almost pointless argument is actually an advantage.
I am not ashamed either. As I said, feel free to do better. I will be the first to congratulate you.
I feel there is a job worth doing, and no one else has tackled it. My attempts may well be amateurish, but where are your superior ones?

Goldrider
Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 7:20 pm

Ah! You should know that I swallowed the Red Pill quite some time ago. (wink)

Santa Baby
Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 9:51 pm

Human ideas are more powerful than guns?

Editor
Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 10:31 pm

Great essay. One point I would dispute – re behaving as if there is a god. That doesn’t work – well, not as per most god definitions. What does work is as explained in an early paragraph : “There is one thing that separates proper science from the rest, and that is that it works”. So trying to behave as if there’s a god simply opens up a can of worms. Unless, that is, “god” is defined in a way that equates to “that which works”. What we actually need to do is to behave in a way that works. That’s why I want education to be founded on the basics again, but the four Rs not three. (The 4th R is Reasoning).

PB
Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 12:41 am

Sorry for being abrupt previously. Let me clarify.
The central issue in the philosophy of science is the problem of inductive reasoning, which you seem to have missed entirely.
What you are talking about is the problem of epistemology and the extent to which our beliefs based on the world of our experience can properly be considered, or give rise to, ‘knowledge’. This problem impacts all of our beliefs equally, not just scientific reasoning. This problem impacts religious and creationist beliefs just the same way and to the same extent. And, it includes and equally impacts your belief that ‘science works’. You believe that science works because you saw it with your own eyes right? Did you also hear a tree fall over in woods?
Karl Popper, Thomas Kuhn, and the rest were all concerned with ways to conceive of science without depending on inductive reasoning and thus avoiding the problem of induction. Paradigm shifts, conjectures and refutations, falsification, and so on and so forth, are all just ways to try to argue that science does not critically depend upon inductive reasoning.
So you have missed the entire point of the philosophy of science.
And your point concerning epistemology is entirely flawed as soon as you try to give special status to scientific beliefs as opposed to any other beliefs in this context on the basis that ‘science works’. Do you imagine that we believe that science works because of something other than our sensory experience of it? What does empirical mean…? Science may well have special status but not in this context.
So, you have misunderstood your subject in quite fundamental ways, hence my earlier response.
(And your grasp of the philosophical implications of subjectivist ethical positions is worrying.)

Gary
Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 6:39 am

@PB
Thank you for your clarification. I look forward to your next essay on tact and people skills

Santa Baby
Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 11:40 pm

So philosophy is human ideas about other human ideas?

Rob Morrow
March 31, 2016 3:32 pm

Bravo, Leo Smith.

March 31, 2016 3:34 pm

Great stuff, but it would be very helpful if you went further into the question of what is truth. Since science investigates the knowable, is “the knowable” the truth? If so, then it exists beyond science. I am drawn to the Eastern philosophical distinction between what we “know”, that is what we tell each other about the things we have discovered through science and other approaches, and what these things are beyond our descriptions. “Mistake not the finger for the moon” is a Buddhist admonition that is highly applicable here. Climate change models are fingers, not moons. And surely we know enough about climate to insist that everyone recognize that climate changes, it has always changed, and always will. Induction is reliable provided you do not narrow your focus to a limited range of the phenomenon you are investigating. But many climate changers focus on a very limited and often flawed set of data, when they use data at all. Their predictions based on limited induction may be/are very flawed.
But I had an excellent science education as it was always stressed that utility was the goal, not truth. Science is a difficult concept to get across to lawyers (sigh) as they are trained to use absolutes. They can be forgiven for this I suppose, but it is of great concern that so many climate scientists are making such egregious errors. Our society is like the Red Queen and Alice in having to run like mad just to stay where we are. The ability of our society to run so fast is due to science. Bad science will result in bad running (of society). So I agree that the greatest threats to people is bad science.

Reply to  Kelvin Duncan
March 31, 2016 3:40 pm

Duncan
We could be here all night. 🙂
Perhaps another time in another place.

Dahlquist
Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 5:31 pm

Leo, excellent article. Thanks.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 11:51 am

All night? Hmmpf, well into next year, I should think…

Tom Halla
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
April 1, 2016 12:09 pm

Philosophy is, at least as college course catalogs divide things up, those recondite subjects without good solutions. Unfortunately, at the schools I went to logic and rhetoric were in with epistemiology. Therefore, I previously made the comment that such discussions call for one’s favorite recreational drugs, as one will never reach a satisfactory solution.

March 31, 2016 3:39 pm

@ulriclyons
Yes, that’s all very well for people who ‘get science’ and have the wit and the motivation to understand what all that stuff means.
But that is a vanishingly small minority.
The real movers and shakers here are the sorts of media establishment luvvies who gush over ‘science’ pretend they understand it, and provide air space to rubbish because its fooled them.
I think that if you want to win the hearts and minds, you need to unfortunately come up with a compelling emotional counter-narrative, and that is that the world is more in danger from climate change alarmists than from climate change itself.
That is the simplest message that will do the job.
I am afraid these days I am tired and cynical. I now longer think that ‘if only everyone thought the way I do, the problem wouldn’t have happened’ is a good thought to have, because patently they dont think the way I do, and to be honest, I dont have the power, even if I felt morally justified, or even just plain bloody minded enough to force them or seduce them into thinking that way.
They are, in the end, ‘no better than they ought to be’ and in order to respond to the truth, they probably need to be lied to. That is unfortunately the starting point of the alarmists too, and that is the effective policy. The only difference here, is that we cant be found out, because we have been careful enough to discern what the truth is before we start. And the lies we tell are only in the end simplifications.
I.e to say ‘the greatest anthropogenic threat to the human race comes from climate change alarmists, and their ilk’, is a simplification, but its not far from the truth.

Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 4:45 pm

Spot on +1000000000

PiperPaul
Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 5:06 pm

…media establishment luvvies who gush over ‘science’ pretend they understand it, and provide air space to rubbish because its fooled them.
“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” ― Mark Twain
Of course, one has to be humble and have humility in order to admit to having been fooled, and I don’t see much of those attributes in certain quarters these days.

Reply to  PiperPaul
April 1, 2016 11:18 pm

“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” ― Mark Twain
I just finished watching a very good documentary on that subject. It was about James Randi, aka “The Amazing Randi” titled “An Honest Liar”. It deals with many of these issues and I think anyone interested in the subject would find it worth a couple of hours. Netflix is streaming it I think, but it may have been Amazon.

ulriclyons
Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 5:26 pm

“I.e to say ‘the greatest anthropogenic threat to the human race comes from climate change alarmists, and their ilk’, is a simplification, but its not far from the truth.”
Apart from real detrimental climate change in the form of a deep and protracted solar minimum, that is the truth.
I’m not sure that it would help telling them that their policies being harmful to humanity, they already claim that population reduction is the right thing to do, which has spilled out into some public opinion that humanity sucks and needs to be got rid of.
At some stage there has to be a tipping point to a wider acceptance of what the observational data really implies, that AMO and Arctic warming is negative NAO/AO driven, and hence logically a feedback to a decline in climate forcing. And beyond that, a recognition of the solar and non internal cause of the increase in negative NAO since the mid 1990’s, and how that has overwhelmed the opposing effects of more CO2.
http://snag.gy/PrMAr.jpg

Tom Halla
March 31, 2016 3:43 pm

Nastily, deep philosophical arguments usuallly imply drug consumption by most of the participants. As they are interminable, Irish Coffee and marjiuana seem reasonable, with the weed to keep down brawls.
To get pedantic, there is some “science’ that is reliable enough to use as engineering–where one gets predicable results within some agreed degree of measurement. What most persons posting on this site agree is that “climate science”, particularly CAGW, is not engineering level now, and for various stated reasons, will not be for a rather long time.

Goldrider
Reply to  Tom Halla
March 31, 2016 7:10 pm

I’m gonna need some Doritos if this goes on much longer . . .

Editor
March 31, 2016 3:46 pm

We feel that Science is being usurped by imposters, who are almost perpetrating a modern form of black magic with its tenets, and yet we can’t actually say why they are wrong…without which we can’t refute their arguments…and this is made worse by the conclusions of modern philosophers that actually, we don’t know and can’t know what is really real, because what we deal with is ‘Reality as a Social Construct’.

I gotta say, I find this unbearably patronizing. Leo, perhaps YOU can’t say why the scientific imposters are wrong, but many of us can. You mistake your own blindness for a common shared blindness … and people wonder why philosophers get a bad rep. In any case, here’s the 411:
The scientific impostors are wrong because they are not practicing transparent, honest science—they hide their methods and their code and their data.
The impostors are wrong because they want to change the basic scientific rules, like reversing the null hypothesis.
They are wrong because when their errors are discovered, they either deny that they exist or they claim that they make no difference, regardless of the importance of their errors.
They are wrong because they refuse to face up to and debate those who point out errors in their scientific work.
In some cases they are wrong because they deliberately distort the science. More often, they are wrong because of unexamined confirmation bias, shallow analyses, and the incorrect use of statistics through things like ignoring autocorrelation and neglecting the Bonferroni correction.
Finally, some of them are wrong because they hide, cheat, lie, steal, subvert the IPCC, pack the pal-review panels, hide from the FOIA requests, and do whatever they can including breaking the law to advance their personal activist agendas. See the unindicted co-conspirators of ClimateGate, or Peter Gleick, as the poster boys for this kind of science.
So there you have it, Leo. Turns out that Dylan was true, you don’t actually need a weatherman to see which way the wind blows.
w.

Marcus
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 31, 2016 3:51 pm

..Oh come on Willis, tell us how you really feel !! LOL….+ 10,000

Joel Snider
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 31, 2016 3:55 pm

Good post, Mr. Eschenbach – best nut-shell recap of the entire squalid business that I’ve seen in a while. I’ve been trying to condense it into something you can put on a bumper sticker (because I find it’s hard to argue with someone who’s just shouting slogans), but this is pretty good.

Reply to  Joel Snider
April 1, 2016 6:14 am

Here’s a good bumper sticker. Can’t post the image (great graphics), but it says:
COOKING THE BOOKS
NOT THE PLANET
TURN UP THE HEAT ON CLIMATE ALARMISTS
Available here:
http://www.zazzle.com/cooking_the_books_not_the_planet_bumper_sticker-128183498056950345
I am not the creator of this, but do know the people who are.
/Mr Lynn

Joel Snider
Reply to  Joel Snider
April 1, 2016 12:15 pm

L.E. Joiner: I doodled up one that had a graph of the Pause, with the caption, ’18 Years and Counting’.
Of course, that was all pre-adjusted data.

Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 31, 2016 4:43 pm

WE know this Willis because we’re in the thick of it. We’re interested in what the scoundrels are doing. Many people don’t. They haven’t studied climate ‘science’, they don’t know much about science or anything else and are too busy with their lives to much worry about it. That’s why there are still ‘believers’ out there.

AJB
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 31, 2016 4:44 pm

+1

Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 31, 2016 4:51 pm

Willis,
You are right, of course. And this is where Leo’s argument strikes me as inconsistent. If right and wrong are not at the foundation of the scientific method, the enterprise falls apart. Beginning with an a-moral premise because one doesn’t have the courage to place moral axioms alongside scientific axioms eventually leads to corruption (and eventual death) of the scientific enterprise.
Best,
TGB

Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
March 31, 2016 5:38 pm

That’s another view Willis, and I sympathise with it, but unfortunately I dont have the confidence that you do, at the philosophical level.
All you say may be true, from your perspective, but tell me, does knowing it stop them being that way? Why aren’t they ashamed of themselves?
Do you not see that the secret to actually stopping this nonsense, is to understand the nature of the opposition?
Because they will look at you and say ‘why that’s just your opinion., and I have 20 million Appeals To Authority standing behind me, so who cares what you think anyway?’

NW sage
Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 6:34 pm

Excellent point Leo. And thank you for the work it took to put this piece together. “authority” in whatever form has, for centuries, been the source of resistance to scientific ‘truth’. As long as whole generations are raised and trained to believe one ‘thing’ and science and repeatable experiment shows that ‘thing’ to be not true there will be tremendous resistance to change that belief. eg – “the earth is flat” mantra which prevailed in the middle ages. ‘Authority’ will always oppose change in the belief system.
Until we ‘know’ everything about every-thing in the universe we are stuck with that fact.

Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 7:01 pm

Thanks for your reply, Leo. Here’s the problem.
I say in essence “Real science requires transparency, it requires you to reveal your code and data”.
In response, you say that you “don’t have the confidence that [I] do, at the philosophical level.”
I have no idea what this means. All I know is that science doesn’t work without transparency. How does that require “confidence at the philosophical level”? It is a simple statement of fact. Without transparency, science grinds to a halt, regardless of what Emanuel can or kant say about it …
You also say:

All you say may be true, from your perspective, but tell me, does knowing it stop them being that way?

My knowing something can’t stop anyone from anything. Only actions can do that.
All I can see to do is to point out over and over what true science looks like. It looks like this:
Someone puts their ideas up in the public marketplace of scientific ideas, including all of the data, code, logic, math, and all the rest of the backup information to buttress their claims.
Other people try to falsify their ideas. If they can falsify them, the idea goes in the wastebasket. If they cannot be falsified, then they become what might be called “interim facts”, that is to say, true until someone actually can falsify them.
My knowing that doesn’t help. My pointing that out might help. I do note that as a response in some part to pressure from climate skeptics such as myself, the scientific journals are starting to require the archiving of code and data … so my experience is that my methods are not as fruitless as you imagine.

Why aren’t they ashamed of themselves?

For the most part, I would say that they are not ashamed of themselves because they are suffering from “noble cause corruption”. They seriously believe that they are engaged in saving the planet from themselves, so what is a little bit of fudging? This is particularly true since the noble green climate cause now has all of the trappings of a religion.
Finally, you say:

Do you not see that the secret to actually stopping this nonsense, is to understand the nature of the opposition?

Mmmm … I’d say that the nature of the opposition is not the crucial issue. Like they say on the internet, haters gonna hate. I don’t think that understanding why they hate will change that much.
For me, the only cure for bad science is twofold—advocate for good transparent honest science, and do good transparent honest science.
Best regards,
w.

Greg
Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 2:39 am

Willis, you are quite right and your resume of failure and dishonesty of climate science it quite succinct. But you are missing Leo’s point.
It reminds me of something I read here a while back: sceptics are bringing a knife to gun fight. Leo’s point is that this is not about science ( despite the alarmists’ insistence that they have a science based case ).
Environmentalism is a cultural movement, not a scientific one. You have about as much chance of tackling this with good science, or accusations of bad science, as you would have of convincing someone who is into the Church of Scientology that they have been mislead and brainwashed.
After the liberation from the imposed values of society that happened in the West in the 60’s, there has been a lack of any cohesive values. We are now seeing the denial of even the most basic societal structure that is even understood by all beasts of the world. Gender, we are now told, may have been “mistakenly attributed at birth”. Some gender bigoted doctor mistakenly thought the little dangly bits between your legs indicated you were male and ‘arbitrarily’ assigned you a particular gender.
A society which starts to talk such nonsense is a boat without a keel and needs to get back in contact with natural world.
People feel increasingly powerless as corporate and business structures usurp governments and which are negotiating away national sovereignty to faceless, nameless, non-elected bodies. They need something to believe in. For you, Leo and myself, that may be the rigour of the scientific method. That is not the only choice.
Belief in saving “the planet”, Nature, that which sustains and supports us has a simple, logical appeal. People feel that they are kicking back against a pointless wasteful consumer society. At least that was the ground-swell that started the enviro movement.
As Leo also correctly points out, any such movement as soon at it starts to get traction gets perverted and taken over and exploited by the those in power. That is where environmentalism now is.
Very few of the probably well-meaning eco-warriors like the Guardian “environment” reporters seem to have realised that. They are today’s ‘useful idiots’. Their constant and disingenuous wailing about CO2 will not get them where they want to be because it is not the real problem. It is symbolic: the ‘lie’ to get to obeisance, to paraphrase Leo. It’s a symbol which has been perverted.
Leo’s point, as I understand it, is that this has to be seen as sociological phenomenon. To keep battering away with scientific arguments is to miss the point and miss the target.

Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 7:04 am

I think you have to keep banging on the science, showing them their data doesn’t mean what they say it means, which I think is Leo’s point, they think they have every good scientist telling them we have weeks to act, and after a few decades a lot of them believe it, or enough of it to turn to world upside down.
It depends on what the meaning of “is” is.

Rob Morrow
Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 9:26 am

Today’s climate science is not advanced enough to provide much utility, whether it’s alarmist or not. Let’s assume that CAGW is successfully falsified by the skeptics. What utility do the skeptics gain? Will we be able to predict the weather with such spectacular accuracy that the worried public will be forced to acknowledge the untruth they’ve been fed? Even if we can make great weather/climate predictions, will the truth not still be drowned out by the adjusted data and political vitriol of the alarmists? Skeptics have no product to offer the public, while the alarmists offer the security of false certainty and control.
This war will not be won by science.

Reply to  Rob Morrow
April 1, 2016 9:36 am

Skeptics have no product to offer the public

We can offer to cut the arms off a a couple of the leaches feeding off their wallets.
We can make a bigger impact on temperature by restoring land use, planting trees and grasses instead of asphalt and concrete, we can reduce the water vapor at altitude from Jets, a couple tenths of a degree seems pale compared to the 20 or 30F warmer my driveway is compared to grass a few feet away.

Rob Morrow
Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 9:40 am

Furthermore skeptics have little financial incentive to win this battle, while there is an entire green economy guided by Adam Smith’s scientifically agnostic hand. Bureaucrats want more government. Rich greens get to invest in subsidized projects and receive higher than market returns for decades. Investment bankers finance those projects and get a quick percentage. Environmentalists get a louder voice. The list goes on…

Reply to  Rob Morrow
April 1, 2016 9:45 am

Furthermore skeptics have little financial incentive to win this battle

I’m not looking to pay 3 or more times the cost for energy.
Collectively that’s a lot of money from “us”, and enough from “me” to feel it.

Rob Morrow
Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 10:36 am

Collectively that’s a lot of money from “us”, and enough from “me” to feel it.

There are many people who can afford to pay more for energy, and are happy to do so, because they aren’t currently starving or freezing to death, and they believe it’s a morally virtuous thing to do because it will “save the planet”. I am of course speaking of Leftist voters. Unless the CAGW is decoupled from partisan politics, or the Right is able to dominate the Left for the foreseeable future, the CAGW narrative will continue to be popular.

Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
April 1, 2016 11:31 pm

I’d like to add a lack of measurement to that list Willis. My personal complaint is they regularly manufacture data. They prey on people who don’t understand we have no precise measures of atmosphere composition or temperature that go back more than a few hundred years, and much of the data taken in the 20th century isn’t precise to the levels they’ve presented. They’ve made all sorts of absurd claims about climate 60 million years ago with no data to support them. For some reason I can’t understand, they get away with it.

Santa Baby
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
April 1, 2016 11:55 pm

According Herbert Marcuse its modern Marxism with its idea of domination of Nature. Nature has become one of many surrogates to attack and change the Western World. Climate science based on UNEP, UNFCCC and IPCC has become cultural/modern Marxism.

Editor
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
April 2, 2016 3:57 pm

It is possible that both Willis and Leo are right (well at least partly)! It’s just that neither has identified exactly what they mean by “wrong”. Willis is right in pointing out that the climate modellers are wrong because their methods are wrong and their attitude is corrupt. But Leo is right in saying that we can’t prove they are wrong, in the somewhat narrower sense that we can’t prove their results are wrong. To any scientist, it is enough – or should be enough – that the methods are wrong, because in science that is sufficient to render results unusable. But in climate science, the inability of others to prove that their results are wrong has corruptly been used to promote bad science.

Logoswrench
March 31, 2016 3:46 pm

Kant’s philosophy self destructs. I have a rule which serves me well regarding philosophy. “The first criteria any philosophy must meet is its own. “

Reply to  Logoswrench
March 31, 2016 4:36 pm

Kant’s philosophy self destructs. I have a rule which serves me well regarding philosophy. “The first criteria any philosophy must meet is its own. “
I dont think it does altogether, and Schopenhauer certainly made it a bit more secure.
Its far more post modern stuff that self destructs. I think it was Jeremy Stangroom that pointed out that the statement that ‘reality is a social construct is, itself an unreliable social construct’ 🙂
I am aware of the problem of recursion: My proposition that all metaphysical systems are models, is not harmed by the understanding that that proposition too, is another model. It is a self affirming metaphysics, and therefore has persistence..:-)

Joe Prins
March 31, 2016 3:55 pm

Really surprised that a man who has obviously read a few books did not even mention the one, or more, about the philosophy of objectivism. Perhaps a read of Ayn Rand: The virtue of selfishness might give an idea that morals are not relative. Or try: For the new intellectual. For an engineer: A is in fact A. Otherwise you could not do your job.

Reply to  Joe Prins
March 31, 2016 4:31 pm

Dear old Ayn Rand. Yep. she has something to say on the social side of this, but I come from a more science arena, late to social philosophy.
What I do with social philosophy is akin to Wittgenstein and metaphysics. Summarise it as ‘moral science is about what people think is good for them and bad for them. however I can find no absolute definition of ‘good’ and ‘bad’ beyond saying that whatever kills them and their moral compass is probably bad, or at least wont last long
Even Nietzsche gets his knickers in a twist, lurching as he hoes ‘beyond good and evil;’ to say there are no externally imposed ‘laws of ethics’ but then coming up with a rubbish substitute and saying ‘therefore whatever you can get away with is cool’ more or less.
Rand from limited perusal seems to be somewhat similar..

Goldrider
Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 7:13 pm

The Earth’s climate is an excellent example of an amoral universe–it’s just the Great Clockworks in the Sky. Not good, not evil, it just . . . is. And will ever be, long after our over-analyzed dustball flips into the Sun.
Who gets fried, frozen, or batter-dipped in lava is simply the luck of the draw.

Bob
Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 7:55 pm

‘therefore whatever you can get away with is cool’ more or less. […] Rand from limited perusal seems to be somewhat similar..
You’re mistaken, though I can understand why you might think that. Especially since you’re an engineer interested in philosophy you are doing your self a great disservice to not read a few of her best non-fiction books at least twice — they’re a real treat to read once it “clicks.” On first read many of her statements seem trivial or bizarre or just flatly wrong. Though after reading a few books / re-reading them you can recognize the very idiosyncratic way she writes and interpret what she truly means. She chose her words so carefully that until you’ve gotten used to her quirks of communication you simply can’t appreciate what she’s really saying. This is a big reason why there are so many even very intelligent people who read a little Rand and then reject immediately her as an uninformative if not bizarre crank. Though once you understand her careful use of language much of what she’s written not only makes perfect sense, it provides really a helpful and enlightening way of thinking about the world. That’s not to say she’s right about everything (she’s not), but I think she is the most under-appreciated philosopher of all time (yes, really). If people know anything about her at all it’s just enough to insult and dismiss her which is a complete miscarriage of intellectual justice. She was a flawed person to be sure, but her philosophy is actually really powerful.
mod: if you could email Leo and give him my email address I’d love to chat offline. Or post a link to his website / contact info.

Donna K. Becker
Reply to  Leo Smith
April 7, 2016 11:36 am

Rand never wrote or indicated that it’s okay if one can get away with it. That’s a common misconception. Rather, it’s right if it works (utility).

Donna K. Becker
Reply to  Joe Prins
April 7, 2016 11:33 am

Yes; A = A, never B. If it works over the long term, it’s quite likely to be correct. If it doesn’t work, toss it out and find a different way. Applicable to Climate Science, ethics, or anything else I can think of.

Bob
March 31, 2016 3:55 pm

Great work! Though I think Leo overplays the non-objectivity of ethics. If we (pragmatically) understand ethics to be the science of survival in a social setting (by definition, or by axiom) then we can make at least some ethical claims that are as true as any other field of science. As far as anyone can tell there is a difference between life and death, and this is the where morality starts: as a way of categorizing things that helps us live vs. kills us. So if there is a difference between life and death then there are things to be learned about (our model of) humans and (our model of) reality and (our model of) the interaction of the two that can help us to survive/flourish and avoid death/suffering. That’s not to say there’s some Platonic “ethics” floating somewhere in another dimension, but just that ethics is part of a fact-space where discoveries can be made and theories can be tested out, not entirely unlike any other field of scientific study from physics to medicine.

Reply to  Bob
March 31, 2016 4:22 pm

Though I think Leo overplays the non-objectivity of ethics. If we (pragmatically) understand ethics to be the science of survival in a social setting (by definition, or by axiom) then we can make at least some ethical claims that are as true as any other field of science.
That is a very fair point, and I wouldn’t totally disagree, except to say that the very fact that you feel the need to apply ‘in a social setting’ emphasises the human based context of ethics. All you are saying is that ethics is ‘what’s good for folks’ as opposed to physics, which is ‘what is, orthogonal to human existence’
That is, if humanity dies tomorrow, ethics would die with them, but the (physical) reality of the Universe, one supposes, would carry on more or less unmoved 🙂
I have a concept in my head about the hierarchy of knowledge, and what bits of knowledge and human thinking are derivative of what basic assumptions and metaphysical propositions, so that all of human thought and so on exists on some sort of map where certain bits are derivative of other bits. In that space, ethics and morality sit in a more human based area, and a more derivative area than physics.
Mutatis mutandis you can shuffle the elements of those maps around and change the order and the precedence. I chose a particular arrangement that gives me the simplest picture of the problem at hand, and that puts ethics in the doghouse . And frankly I think it deserves to be there. so call moral compasses have got more people hopelessly lost in moral mazes than anything else.
My morality is simple. Am I personally where I want to be? If not, where is that place, and how pragmatically can I get there?
And that’s all.
I dont therefore think that you can really equate a subjective desire with what at least purports to be objective science. The only objective test I felt able to apply to a moral structure is ‘was it self propagating or self destructive’ . At least science allows us the luxury of ‘did it predict an outcome that happened?’ Morality doesn’t allow of that.
That’s why I say its not on a par. How do you test a morality? As I said, does it have persistence? is all you cam ask, as far as I can tell.

Bob
Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 4:52 pm

That is, if humanity dies tomorrow, ethics would die with them, but the (physical) reality of the Universe, one supposes, would carry on more or less unmoved
Probably true, though the same can be said about the scientific knowledge of physics. 🙂 Reality might well go on without any humans, though the scientific knowledge of physics would likely die if humans died. As far as I can tell humans are a particular kind of physical process in a particular kind of environment. Physics tries to model the environment itself, and one could say ethics tries to model the interaction between the physical process we call humans and the environment in such a way that helps many humans to survive and thrive at once. In much the same way the science of medicine strives to help us maintain “health” even as we’re still relatively naive about how humans work and can be repaired and improved (it’s ongoing, but it can still make falsifiable predictions as we continue learning more — like ethics).
My morality is simple. Am I personally where I want to be? If not, where is that place, and how pragmatically can I get there?
The same sort of thing can be said of physics. One can have a theory in physics that doesn’t (yet) successfully model observations, and then with some changes it might then correctly model observations. Both physics and ethics can be discovered in a fact-space.
At least science allows us the luxury of ‘did it predict an outcome that happened?’ Morality doesn’t allow of that.
It could, though. I admit it isn’t normally structured this way. Though a science of ethics most certainly would be. I certainly hear what you’re saying that what we normally talk about when we say “morality” is really just explication of our assumptions and biases with lots of noise mixed in. Though I see no reason ethics can’t be a science in the same way medicine or physics is.
How do you test a morality? As I said, does it have persistence?
It has persistence in the same sense that knowledge of physics has persistence. Physics is a particular kind of (tentative) knowledge about reality. Ethics is a particular kind of (tentative) knowledge about humans and reality and the interaction between the two. You can test morality. The morality of murdering everyone you see does not succeed at maximizing survival and flourishing. It turns out that not murdering everyone you see works better for reasons we can theorize about and create models for. 🙂 The decision by a human to breathe water will (usually) lead to death. These are things that exist in a fact-space we can discover and make prediction about and create models to explain.

Reply to  Leo Smith
April 2, 2016 10:58 am

Leo writes:

My morality is simple. Am I personally where I want to be? If not, where is that place, and how pragmatically can I get there?

Is this morality or goal seeking? Is the banker, lawyer or candlestick maker acting on a moral principal when they seek to improve their condition? Or are they simply acting from self-interest? I would characterize what you propose as pure self interest, not morality.
If my personally want to eliminate a ethnic community in my geographic territory, I believe your analysis would be I’m acting morally; I want to be in a situation where I’m not in contact with that ethnic group. How is this “moral’?

Reply to  Leo Smith
April 2, 2016 11:04 am

I regret I tend to use angle brackets for parameterized text (BNF, the Bakcus-Naur form) and it gets edited out of my comments by the HTML robot filter.
The line:
If my personally want to eliminate a ethnic community…
should have read:
If I personally want to eliminate a “fill in the blank” ethnic community…

PiperPaul
March 31, 2016 3:55 pm

I’m reminded of that Michael Crichton quote: “The greatest challenge facing mankind is the challenge of distinguishing reality from fantasy, truth from propaganda. Perceiving the truth has always been a challenge to mankind, but in the information age (or as I think of it, the disinformation age) it takes on a special urgency and importance.”

Number 7
March 31, 2016 4:00 pm

I don’t need a model to confirm that kinetic energy = 1/2MV where V is squared. Where is the provable formula with CO2 and World temperature?

Reply to  Number 7
March 31, 2016 4:04 pm

@Number 7
“kinetic energy = 1/2MV where V is squared”. is a model.
It just happens to be one that, applied correctly, works 😉

Owen in GA
Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 9:29 am

“Works” in the sense that when you apply that much energy toward rising in a gravity field, it predicts precisely how high the item will go before its kinetic energy reaches 0, ie when that much kinetic energy is converted into that much potential energy. (barring friction of course)
Of course the reality would be to actually take an object, give it that much initial kinetic energy and watch it rise in a gravity field. The equations are just models that can tell us how that object should behave if the theory that created the mathematical model is correct.
The video of the item rising in the gravity field is just an image, once removed from the real item (but not quite a model) (oh no! let’s not go into the whole representational levels of abstraction in philosophy – practical people’s heads may explode.) recursion sucks, but it seems most philosophy, when carefully observed leads to recursive assumptions and leap of faith starting points. Even mathematics has this in the basic axioms. 1+2=2+1 because it has been found to work, not because it has been “proven”. The later proofs rely on the basic axioms being true and if they are ever found not to be true, all of math will have to be rebuilt from the ground up. The whole edifice would collapse, and yet it has been found to be useful up to now.

March 31, 2016 4:03 pm

Nastily, deep philosophical arguments usually imply drug consumption by most of the participants. As they are interminable, Irish Coffee and marjiuana seem reasonable, with the weed to keep down brawls.
Indeed. Psychedelic experiences certainly challenge the 1:1 assumed correlation between what you see and what you get. And lead to an appreciation of the fact that there might be something in this metaphysics stuff after all. But Its the people who dont let go of it afterwards., or who arrived by a different route, that struggle to slice and dice the issues into a usable form.
Mostly we dont need to challenge assumptions by which we live our daily lives. However what’s been a hobby of mine for decades, now seems to me to have something useful to say. The times they are a changing, and we may need to go back to first principles and reassess how we construct our social world, when all is said and done, and the coffee is drunk and the spliffs have been smoked.
If people are intelligent enough to understand the issues from the top down, then reason is adequate, if not then I am afraid all that will happen is that we will end up with a new ‘religion’. As Leftism and political correctness replaced Christianity, some sort of post modern perspective will be seized upon, and become successful, and then be claimed to be the One True View. Whereas what it will be, is merely adequate and not dysfunctional enough to destroy those who espouse it. 🙂
Perhaps that is after all all we can hope for, to acknowledge that the vast mass of humanity needs its beliefs, because they are too lazy or too stupid to think for themselves and what they want is for someone to tell them what to think, and it behoves those of us to whom the responsibility of actually thinking about it falls, to get it bloody well right and in the best interest of the sheeple, as opposed to those who simply say ‘if they are that stupid, and lazy, they deserve to be slaves’, and then tell them what to believe.
Frankly we have been stupid and lazy. Thinking that the truth would out without being given a caesarian.
The reality is that pushing the inconvenient truth, as opposed to Gore-ish convenient lies, is damned hard work.

Marcus
Reply to  Leo Smith
March 31, 2016 4:17 pm

..I am proud to tell you Leo that yours is the first and only post at WUWT that I have ever rated with one star . ( and I have read and rated every single one ) Maybe you should lay off the Bong for a while ?

Reply to  Marcus
March 31, 2016 6:22 pm

Mate, Its been several decades since I last SAW a bong.
Is one star good, or bad?

Greg
Reply to  Marcus
April 1, 2016 2:58 am

Marcus, anyone who reads and rates every article on WUWT needs help. I don’t see Leo being too devastated about how many you did or did not give him.
Clearly that is easier than making a valid criticism.

Science or Fiction
Reply to  Leo Smith
April 1, 2016 4:13 pm

I´m at the other end of the scale, I´m at 10 stars. 🙂

Reply to  Leo Smith
April 2, 2016 11:24 am

Leo writes:

it behoves those of us to whom the responsibility of actually thinking about it falls, to get it bloody well right and in the best interest of the sheeple, as opposed to those who simply say ‘if they are that stupid, and lazy, they deserve to be slaves’

This “responsibility” you talk about is again, I think, an expression of self-interest? It’s essentially our job to correct them, to give them a course of action and a purpose that isn’t self destructive simply because we share a biosphere with them and if they choose to “go to hell” they will end up taking us with them?
I can agree with that. You’ve made me consider why exactly I choose to spend inappropriate amounts of time (according to my wife) debating these ideas with people who are frankly unable understand what I’m telling them. So again, the “morality” of the debate reduces to self-interest.
Much like the “too big to fail” argument for granting a pardon to out of control sociopaths who took advantage of a purely social contract to enrich their lives. But in that example, what we know of the mechanism of evolution (science) tells us the correct course of action was to let them die rather than save them to fail another day.
In the example of the climate terrorists, it follows our best course of action isn’t to try saving them. It isn’t to try convincing them. In fact the best course of action is to actively prepare ourselves for the disaster they are engineering and wait patiently for them to die.

dedaEda
March 31, 2016 4:08 pm

Excellent!

TA
March 31, 2016 4:31 pm

Great article. Thanks.

March 31, 2016 4:39 pm

First learning the difference between metaphysics and epistemology.
Then rewrite your post.
{First learn how to form complete sentences, then rewrite your comment. -mod}

Marcus
Reply to  Steven Mosher
March 31, 2016 5:19 pm

LOL

Reply to  Steven Mosher
March 31, 2016 5:20 pm

First learning the difference between metaphysics and epistemology.
Then rewrite your post.

Sure. Fancy enlightening me? I never claimed to be an academic philosopher. Frankly nit picking terminology is not how I want to spend my life.
Did you, who one presumes do know the difference, understand what I was trying to say?
As I understand it, epistemology is a subset of metaphysics.
Of course, you could rewrite the post yourself.

u.k(us)
March 31, 2016 4:47 pm

This works for me:
“Because I think it’s a better way to live, to behave as if there were a God, as if there were some judgement over one’s life, and not only does it make me personally feel better, it creates a cohesive humble and co-operative and strong society. Why can’t we accept paying lip-service to a religion we don’t believe in, on the grounds that its simply a good thing for us, and society to do, for our own survival?”

Reply to  u.k(us)
March 31, 2016 6:47 pm

The system that provides the best life for the most people is one based on Protestant Christian principles. It gives a moral framework that crates conditions to have a very productive, and caring, society. When you loose that, cooperation, society falls apart. It was Protestant Christians, and only them, who cared enough about their fellow man to end the world slave trade. An example to ponder: I have read recently that there are as many people now in chattel slavery as there were in the 1700s at the height of the slave trade. So, Buckshot, do you care?

ronhave
Reply to  u.k(us)
April 2, 2016 12:00 pm

What is the quoted source? Sounds like a good reason for any religious skeptic to join a church (Unitarian, perhaps)

March 31, 2016 4:53 pm

Leo Excellent piece with which I completely agree.
You say ” A simple message went out: “Climate change threatens our very existence, because it is true”.
We need to reverse that with a simple statement: “Climate change threatens our very existence, because it isn’t true”.
For clarity’s sake I would replace “Climate change ” in both statements with CAGW.

Marcus
Reply to  Dr Norman Page
March 31, 2016 6:04 pm

Dr Norman Page, if you have to adjust his words to say the opposite of what he actually said , how can you claim it is an ” excellent piece ” ?

Goldrider
Reply to  Dr Norman Page
March 31, 2016 7:15 pm

Personally, I see no evidence whatsoever that “climate change” at present threatens our existence or even our comfort level very much. The next full-on reglaciation, of course, is a whole other story . . .

March 31, 2016 5:05 pm

Very nice essay. I tend to operate from a different perspective. Best described in the themes of my second book The Arts of Truth (actually about their opposites). But yours is equally valid. Cudos.
The issue of how we ‘know’ something might be ‘true’ is ages old. First book chapter does a ‘don’t blink or you will miss it’ philosophical fly over that core question. Derived four categories of ‘knowing’. One is not so risky, but is data fraught. The second is easier, but more likely to lead to ‘Potemkin villages’ in erroneous “science”. The last two just enable varying degrees of political agendas. Lysenkoism and worse. Lots of illustrations.
Again, nice essay. Cudos many. High regards.

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