The ultimate 'Godwin effect' – Science In 1941: ‘Global Warming Caused Hitler’

For those who don’t know: Godwins law Via the GWPF and the department of “global warming causes everything” comes this blast from the past. It sounds just about as ridiculous as some of the claims being made today trying to link the Syrian war to climate change.

“Increasing warmer temperatures may produce a trend toward dictatorial governments”

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Increasing warmer temperatures throughout the world may produce a trend toward dictatorial governments in the opinion of Dr Clarence A Mills, professor of experimental medicine at the University of Cincinnati. In fact, Dr Mills believes that the rise to power of Adolf Hitler in Germany and Benito Mussolini in Italy may be due in part to the gradual warming temperature of the world. —The Mason City Globe-Gazette, 27 March 1941

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rabbit
November 24, 2015 2:14 pm

Except these days the fascists wear green, not brown.

Reply to  rabbit
November 24, 2015 2:16 pm

Green in the summer, brown in the fall.

Reply to  Jimmy Haigh
November 24, 2015 3:46 pm

Green in their summer, brown when the models don’t verify to reality.

oppti
Reply to  rabbit
November 25, 2015 4:59 am

Might be the cause of Hitler but we know that it didn’t help him to reach Moscow during the cold winters of the forties.

Pamela Gray
Reply to  rabbit
November 25, 2015 6:42 am

These idiots actually wear Emperor clothes. That includes Obama and Hillary. Unfortunately a lot of the cheering crowd think so too. The rest of us look at them and spend the rest of the day saying, “Not that! Not that! Out of my head, out of my head.”

Dahlquist
Reply to  Pamela Gray
November 25, 2015 12:52 pm

Is that sort of like when you visit Disneyland and you have to take the Small World Rise and then you can’t get the damned ‘It’s a Small Small world’ song out of your head for days…Even weeks? You find yourself unconsciously whistling the tune at work.

Mike McMillan
Reply to  Pamela Gray
November 26, 2015 3:21 am

You have to have sympathy for the Disney “cast members” who have to work the Small World ride.
Or maybe not. I hear Disney is replacing them with foreign guest workers.

skorrent1
November 24, 2015 2:21 pm

Let’s see; we had a slight cooling trend in late19th and beginning 20th century. The good doctor says people became less docile and so we had WAR! Then we had slight warming, people becoming more docile, so, naturally, we had WAR! See how simple it is?

simple-touriste
Reply to  skorrent1
November 24, 2015 2:30 pm

TOINETTE : Qui est votre médecin ?
ARGAN : Monsieur Purgon.
TOINETTE : Cet homme-là n’est point écrit sur mes tablettes entre les grands médecins. De quoi dit-il que vous êtes malade ?
ARGAN : Il dit que c’est du foie, et d’autres disent que c’est de la rate.
TOINETTE : Ce sont tous des ignorants. C’est du poumon que vous êtes malade.
ARGAN : Du poumon ?
TOINETTE : Oui. Que sentez-vous ?
ARGAN : Je sens de temps en temps des douleurs de tête.
TOINETTE : Justement, le poumon.
ARGAN : Il me semble parfois que j’ai un voile devant les yeux.
TOINETTE : Le poumon.
ARGAN : J’ai quelquefois des maux de cœur.
TOINETTE : Le poumon.
ARGAN : Je sens parfois des lassitudes par tous les membres.
TOINETTE : Le poumon.
ARGAN : Et quelquefois il me prend des douleurs dans le ventre, comme si c’étaient des coliques.
TOINETTE : Le poumon. Vous avez appétit à ce que vous mangez ?
ARGAN : Oui, monsieur.
TOINETTE : Le poumon. Vous aimez à boire un peu de vin.
ARGAN : Oui, monsieur.
TOINETTE : Le poumon. Il vous prend un petit sommeil après le repas, et vous êtes bien aise de dormir ?
ARGAN : Oui, monsieur.
TOINETTE : Le poumon, le poumon, vous dis-je. — (Molière, Le Malade imaginaire, acte III, scène 10)

Warren
Reply to  simple-touriste
November 24, 2015 6:03 pm

via Google translate app
TOINETTE: Who is your doctor?
ARGAN: Mr. Purgon.
TOINETTE: This man is not written on tablets between my great doctors. What he says you are sick?
ARGAN: He says it’s the liver, and others say it is the spleen.
TOINETTE: These are all ignorant. This is the lung that you are sick.
ARGAN: Lung?
TOINETTE: Yes. What do you feel?
ARGAN: I feel sometimes headaches.
TOINETTE: Exactly, the lung.
ARGAN: It sometimes seems to me that I have a veil before the eyes.
TOINETTE: Lung.
ARGAN: I sometimes sore heart.
TOINETTE: Lung.
ARGAN: I sometimes feel weariness by all members.
TOINETTE: Lung.
ARGAN: And sometimes it takes me pain in the belly, as if it were colic.
TOINETTE: Lung. You appetite to what you eat?
ARGAN: Yes, sir.
TOINETTE: Lung. Like to drink a little wine.
ARGAN: Yes, sir.
TOINETTE: Lung. It takes you a little sleep after the meal, and you are glad to sleep?
ARGAN: Yes, sir.
TOINETTE: The lung, lung, I tell you. – (Molière, The Imaginary Invalid, Act III, scene 10)

Mike McMillan
Reply to  simple-touriste
November 26, 2015 3:23 am

Thank you. I was having a little trouble with the nouns.

Bloke down the pub
November 24, 2015 2:24 pm
minarchist
Reply to  Bloke down the pub
November 24, 2015 4:37 pm

That’s right. GWPF picked it up from Heller, I believe.

Hugs
Reply to  minarchist
November 25, 2015 9:19 pm

They didn’t want to give credits? Tsk tsk.

November 24, 2015 2:28 pm

However Dalton minimum caused Napoleon, who was attempting to ‘unite’ Europe under his rule.

Robertvd
Reply to  vukcevic
November 24, 2015 3:55 pm

It all started with the French Revolution and ended in the cold Russian winter.

Roy
November 24, 2015 2:32 pm

Why stop at Hitler? What was the weather like in the time of Attila the Hun?

Reply to  Roy
November 24, 2015 8:15 pm

The Roman Warm period was waning. Cooling has been proposed as a factor in the European tribal migrations.

Logoswrench
November 24, 2015 2:34 pm

So an earlier than usual Springtime For Hitler.
Lol. Insanity.

Reply to  Logoswrench
November 24, 2015 2:44 pm

Love that Movie…Zero Mostel is the best!

itsnotco2
November 24, 2015 2:50 pm

[snip DOUG COTTON mod]

Mark from the Midwest
November 24, 2015 3:22 pm

This completely corroborates everything John Kerry and Prince Charles are saying, and since we found out about it on the Internet it must be true

Auto
November 24, 2015 3:25 pm

End of Roman Warming period – and Attila the Hun.
Cause – Effect. Or Effect – Cause.
Not convinced.
[Oooops sorry, opposite effect to that quoted]
Ahhh waddaya know?
Coincidence is – NOT – causation.
(sorry about the emphasis, but, I suggest, needed!)
Auto, looking back with imperfect knowledge.

Robertvd
Reply to  Auto
November 24, 2015 3:52 pm

For the new study, Weiss and co-authors David Kaniewski and Elise Van Campo from the Université de Toulouse, France, used pollen to reconstruct 10,000 years of climate history in the region. Their technique was to take a column of stratified sediment from the side of a dry river channel near Tell Leilan and identify the mix of plant types in different layers.
The pollen record showed a pattern of climate fluctuations, with periods of relatively moist climate vegetation alternating with periods of arid climate vegetation. One such dry spell began suddenly around 1400 and lasted until the beginning of the 20th century.
Because this part of Syria is semi-arid to start with and most farmers depend on a single crop of wheat or barley grown in the moist winter months, people then, as now, were highly vulnerable to climate fluctuations. In the absence of irrigation or other technological means of adapting, they practiced what Weiss characterizes as “habitat-tracking,” or moving to areas that could still sustain
http://environment.yale.edu/envy/stories/when-civilizations-collapse/
http://www.leilan.yale.edu/pubs/files/Kaniewski_van_Campo_Weiss_2012_PNAS_109_10__3862__3867.pdf
One such dry spell began suddenly around 1400 and lasted until the beginning of the 20th century.
Little Ice Age ?

benofhouston
Reply to  Robertvd
November 25, 2015 5:49 am

You have a point Robert. Long term droughts would explain a mass migration in search of better cropland, especially due to Syria’s poor infrastructure and noted lack of irrigation.
However, it would not a large scale rebellion against a corrupt dictator, the presence of said corrupt dictator in the first place, or invasion by a group trying to found a religious empire that Al Qaeda calls extreme. You know, what the war is actually being fought over.

Marcus
November 24, 2015 3:52 pm

I think Dr. Mills was doing a little too much experimenting on himself !!

benofhouston
Reply to  Marcus
November 25, 2015 5:51 am

This was the heyday of Freudian psychology. The feds had an “expert” who declared that the Japanese ferocity and refusal to surrendur was due to over-early toilet training.
Give the primitives a break.

Mike McMillan
Reply to  benofhouston
November 26, 2015 3:28 am

Perfectly good explanation if you’ve ever seen a Japanese toilet.

Bruce Cobb
November 24, 2015 3:52 pm

The question is, what causes mass hysterias and delusions such as the great Climate Scare?
Must be something in the water.

Robertvd
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 24, 2015 4:01 pm

And in your toothpaste.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 24, 2015 11:21 pm

I suspect it’s the result of application of some sort of psychedelic antifungal or insecticide on the ivy-covered walls of Academia.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 25, 2015 4:37 am

Ignorant press, greedy pols, uninformed public, lies from ipcc,

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  John piccirilli
November 25, 2015 9:26 am

Good theories, but still doesn’t get at the fundamentals, which have to to do with human traits of a desire to Believe in something, the desire to feel part of “the tribe” (tribalism), and intellectual sloth (trust “the experts), which can then be exploited by those seeking power, fame, etc.

Paul Courtney
November 24, 2015 4:12 pm

All due respect, but Dr. Mills was a rank amateur. Did he have his peer-review teams set up, or create a scary graph, or for God’s sake get a single grant? What kind of climate science is this? At least he got the press release out, and even back then the devoted climate scientist could count on friendly newspaper coverage.

Louis
November 24, 2015 4:16 pm

“Increasing warmer temperatures may produce a trend toward dictatorial governments”
Maybe they’re onto something. As soon as climate models began predicting warmer temperatures, a whole slew of would-be-Hitlers and environmental Nazis sprang up to seize control of our lives. They’re meeting in Paris soon to plot world domination. Only this time, instead of gassing millions and putting them in the ovens, they plan to take away the gas and turn off the ovens so millions will starve or freeze to death.

Louis
Reply to  Louis
November 25, 2015 12:34 am

I swear my comment above was not there at 5:00 pm, yet it is dated 4:16 pm. I think I entered the twilight zone.

Louis
November 24, 2015 4:35 pm

[Does anyone know what happens to comments that don’t show up when you post them? I tried to post it again when it failed to display, but Word Press warned me I was duplicating my previous post. So I refreshed and looked again, but no comment from me shows up anywhere. The same thing happened to me a few weeks ago. My comment disappeared into the ether, never to appear again. Do they put posts in moderation now without telling you?]

Louis
Reply to  Louis
November 24, 2015 4:41 pm

I changed my comment slightly to see if it might have been censored due to the use of a forbidden word. Let’s see what happens this time:
“Increasing warmer temperatures may produce a trend toward dictatorial governments”
Maybe they’re onto something. As soon as climate models began predicting warmer temperatures, a whole slew of would-be dictators and environmental fascists sprang up to seize control of our lives. They’re meeting in Paris soon to plot world domination. Only this time, instead of gassing millions and putting them in the ovens, they plan to take away the gas and turn off the ovens so millions will starve or freeze to death.

Louis
Reply to  Louis
November 24, 2015 4:46 pm

FYI: I took Hitle* and Naz* out of my comment, and it showed up this time. Is Godwin’s Law being enforced here even on a story about Godwin’s Law? Or was it just a strange coincidence?

benofhouston
Reply to  Louis
November 25, 2015 5:53 am

No, but there are some words, including the one for criminal deception and any reference to the opposition during the second world war, that I’m fairly certain put your comment in automatic moderation.

E.M.Smith
Editor
Reply to  Louis
November 26, 2015 10:58 am

They go to the moderation queue or the SPAM queue depending on what WordPress “thinks” of them. A site can add key words to the forbidden list, but not remove any supplied by WordPress (or even see them). The bulk of all spam etc. decisions by WordPress are made on WordPress rules, and I suspect there is a “voting off the island” algorithm with it learning from the collective actions of site moderators. I’ve also seen it start putting sceptics in the spam queue at my site, but after I fish them out a couple of times, it stopped. Even happened to ME at my own site!?! Likely due to being marked spam when commenting at warmers sites.
You get an “awaiting moderation” message if in moderation. But spam just dissappears silently. So a post-and-poof means it is in the spam queue.

clipe
November 24, 2015 5:26 pm

Global warming cancels WW3 (weather) goes straight to WW4 (Twi-night doubleheader)
http://www.treehugger.com/corporate-responsibility/will-global-warming-cause-world-war-iv.html
H/T http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

goldminor
November 24, 2015 5:27 pm

You know, they may have a point. Perhaps that is why Obama got in.

Patrick MJD
November 24, 2015 6:05 pm

“Increasing warmer temperatures throughout the world may produce a trend toward dictatorial governments in the opinion of Dr Clarence A Mills, professor of experimental medicine at the University of Cincinnati.”
Experimental medicine? Rrrrrrriiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhhhtttttt!!!!!

simple-touriste
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 24, 2015 7:46 pm

Climate change: the field where people from all fields (even sociology and psychology) have a voice(*)
(*) but people in physics, statistics, geosciences … can only open their mouth after being “peer reviewed”, many times

Michael Jankowski
November 24, 2015 6:14 pm

It probably works the other way, too…global cooling and fears of a coming ice age brought down the Berlin Wall.
I remember when global warming ate my homework.

November 24, 2015 6:32 pm

Louis
November 24, 2015 at 4:16 pm
Louis, you beat me to it. Dr Mills seems to be right. We have moved very close to the New World Order with elite dictators rationing out travel passes and managing all our daily lives. Sounds to me a bit like the 1000yr Reich that was being spouted then. In US now, you can be jailed for flushing a Koran down the toilet or have your name taken in UK if you bought a copy of Charlie Hebdo issue after the terrorist attack. Hey some of the proponents are burning books.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/wiltshire-police-officer-asked-newsagent-for-charlie-hebdo-buyers-details-after-paris-attacks-10034327.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/01/sharia-in-action-in-the-uk-man-arrested-for-ripping-up-pages-of-quran-at-soccer-match
http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/07/climate-change-profs-burn-skeptical-book/
I suppose readers younger than 30 don’t see anything wrong with this, having successfully completed lefty government proppogandized K-Grad School curricula.

troe
Reply to  Gary Pearse
November 24, 2015 7:13 pm

We knew we had them when they refused to debate and started calling us deniers. In my case they are right in referring to me that way. I deny them my obedience. Come what may.

November 24, 2015 7:09 pm

There’s an obvious point that’s being missed here.
Dr. Mills’ 1941 statement gives us a new long baseline. It’s clear, now, that a negative fixation on climate subverts mental hygiene and makes one an alarmist nut case. Look at the modern examples. Can there remain any doubt?
I believe this explains the very sad analytical decline in a large number of scientists, and the thorough fatuousness of the entire IPCC.

simple-touriste
Reply to  Pat Frank
November 24, 2015 7:37 pm

I understand how
– a bunch of scientivists,
– many substandard academics with weak understanding of statistics and very low abstraction, generalisation, comparison, analysis, and math abilities,
– totally unqualified “social scientists” (real social scientists can count correctly – even if some think their discipline isn’t essentially a matter of counting – and try to have some consistent methodology),
– pure leftish/progressives/socialists in love with the idea of a “market failure” (whatever that means when there is no GHG market in the first place) and the need of “redistribution” of wealth,
– pure greenies in love with the idea of industrial capitalism leading to the world destruction and that accumulation of wealth is bad,
(just how these last groups two manage to get together should be a field of study for social science)
….
can accept the failed and corrupt “science” of climatism (where “… because climate change” counts as an explanation of a phenomenon).
But how can the rest of the “scientific community” (whatever that is) be so indolent?
I see protests from a bunch of individuals. Sometimes they get together.
Where are the institutions?
Where is the community when whole fields become jokes?
Yes, I am looking at you, biomedicine!

Phil Cartier
November 24, 2015 7:34 pm

Well who can argue with the results in our own background. The warmest year(hah!) ever and we’ve got the most fascist president since Wilson.

DGH
November 24, 2015 7:41 pm
Zeke
November 24, 2015 7:56 pm

“People are more docile and easily lead in warm weather than in cold, Dr. Mills insists.”
The geographic view of history is the viewpoint that says soil and climate make people and civilizations follow the courses they do. As most really deficient theories, it is an ancient Greek idea.