The electoral troubles of the green bullies
Eric Worrall writes:
Anyone following the recent G20 will be aware that skeptical politicians, such as Australia’s Tony Abbott and Canada’s Steve Harper, have been subject to intense public pressure from prominent greens like President Obama, to change their public position on climate change. What is less apparent is that all of the most prominent climate bullies appear to be on the brink of losing power, due to a voter backlash back home, against their extreme green policies, and other policy failures.
President Hollande, the greenest of the EU politicians, is plumbing record levels of unpopularity in France;
http://rt.com/news/189444-france-hollande-popularity-low/
Prime Minister David Cameron of Britain just got nailed twice (second time in the last few days) by the upstart United Kingdom Independence Party, in high profile by-elections. As an indication of UKIP’s position on climate change, a few years ago, UKIP’s climate spokesman was Lord Monckton.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2842718/Mark-Reckless-wins-Rochester-election-Ukip.html
Chancellor Merkel of Germany is facing electoral difficulties on the home front, losing ground to euro skeptics (it is not clear if the challengers are climate skeptics, but the challengers are strongly pro business, anti EU);
We all know what happened to Obama – how he and his climate policies were soundly rejected in the US midterm elections.
The question – could here and now really be the last show of strength by green politicians, before voters back home sweep them and their policies into the dustbin of history? Will green politics soon be a thing of the past?
Let’s hope so. Enough of this madness.
A superb essay by Australian marine biologist Walter Starck exposes how “The rent-seekers, opportunists, third-rate academics, carbon-market scam artists and peddlers of catastrophic prophecy can see the alarmist bubble deflating, so they’re trying harder than ever to sustain the scare. Problem is, Mother Nature isn’t cooperating”
The Climate Scam’s Meltdown: Corruption is now systemic in climate science
http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2014/11/the-climate-scams-meltdown-corruption.html
Please include the uber grun UN. They are the worst offenders of the lot. Please note, the Nazis also loved nature and animals, but hated humans. Perhaps UN stands for United Nazis.
I don’t think so. The Greenies are getting louder. As for Abbott, here in Australia, he still is a closet skeptic, and until he comes out in the open he is the butt of jokes and losing popularity fast.
For far too long, green has always thought to have been good.
In reality, green has become goofy, because of the way it is practiced today.
Friends of the Earth and Greenpeace, two leading activist green groups, use identical tactics to sucker money out of the faithful, similar to those used by pseudo-christian and other religious cults.
The left requires a cause to justify its existence and supposed man made global warming/climate change is one of those causes. Aided and abetted by a bunch of grant addicted, dishonourable pseudo-scientists, our politicians have openly embraced a policy of energy poverty for the least well off, by legislating to swap reliable cheap energy sources with the unreliable expensive types.
Goofy, not green, is the correct description for policies motivated by those with the highly dangerous and contagious ‘Save the World Syndrome’.
In Australia, we are dealing with the insult of having the president of our major ally of over 50 years, of a country we have supported through thick and thin, deliberately giving a speech that was aimed solely at embarrassing and putting pressure on our Prime Minister on the subject of “climate change”. Never in the Australia-US relationship has either party injected themselves so dramatically into domestic politics. Whats even more appalling is how little criticism this low act has earned.
We are now left with the Greens and Labor, who constantly have lectured conservatives about kow towing to US demands, now insisting that yes we should do exactly what a US president tells us to do.
Incredible. With all due respect, please take back your president and his appalling behaviour. Disgraceful.
Probably another opportune moment to repeat the mantra, “its worse than we thought!”
Like every other party, the Liberal Party under Abbot is pushing legislation that Australians don’t want; policies that we didn’t request or endorse at the polls; policies designed to benefit a minority of vested interests, including the private school system that handed Abbott, while opposition leader, a $60,000 bribe in the form of a secret scholarship for his daughter at a college of “design.”:
http://www.google.com/search?q=tony+abbott%2C+daughter%2C+scholarship
The Labor “opposition” didn’t kick up a stink because they have their snouts in the trough too.
Voting just encourages them.
I have been informed that an “American sherpa” (Not sure what or who that is) at the G20 meetings refused to table any questions about climate change. Also the “agreement” by Obama between America and China is completely meeningless as Obama does not have support from both houses to make any agreement binding. Apart from the sickening rash of articles in the Aussie MSM, it was a farce.
Here in the UK climate was simply not an issue in the recent election. It was immigration and economics that took centre stage.
I do hope so. In spite of the fact that Spain in supposed to be at the front of solar and wind energy ( that is what we Spaniards are repeatedly told ).
Because here in Spain, the “green” policies for the next few years are going to cost me the possible future profits of my small business .
I would love for Lord Monckton, for Dr Linzen, for Dr.? Lomborg, and for all the common sense scientists and economists to be listened to, and to get the governments to change their policies, in spite of the “politically correct and the green lobbies ”
May the gods smile at us, and help !
Merkel’s in no problem – unless the economy collapses. And that’s a general truth.
All the polls show that Green issues are not relevant to the majority. So not only is it not alarming people it also isn’t swaying their voting with respect to the costs.
There are three types of alarmist:
1 Deliberate Deceivers: Tiljander, Travesty, Roger Harrabin… these are few but doubling down as their careers and reputations depend on it.
2 Cultists: You see them below the line at the Guardian. They can’t read a graph. They believe in a secret cabal of Koch brothers and Jewish bankers who control the world’s governments. They rage more against AGW sceptics than against despoliation of the countryside. They also tell Hot Whoppers. But there aren’t many of them, either.
3 The Vast Majority: They don’t care much. They want a better world and have better things to do than learn about climatology. So long as the tax rises are slow (like the fuel tax escalator on the UK – until the protests when it stopped, just for a while) they won’t complain. Eventually the costs of Green policies will impact them and they will do the research but most of the time they don’t bother to question it. These are the voters. The vast majority are not motivated – either way – by the tales of the end of the world.
Well not all is well in Canada. British Columbia has a carbon tax with Ontario and Quebec possibly joining. Ontario depends on manufacturing but rising energy costs from misdirected green energy policies is chasing manufacturing away. So the Ontario government with its increasing debt will in its wisdom add to the pain by using c02 as the bogyman to introduce a new tax only for raising money, but will not call it a tax.
Wingnuts!
Green politics is just one head of the Malthusian, millennialist Hydra. The fact that Malthus and his representative on earth Erhlich, have been debunked many times, ( remember Simon’s bet?), has no bearing on the matter. Even when the Green blob finally runs out of credibility , the Malthusians will find another vehicle to promote their counsel of despair.
Don’t forget that the “climate movement” were the big winners in the recent US mid-term elections.
How do I know this? They said so.
***“Despite the climate movement’s significant investments and an unprecedented get-out-the-vote program, strong voices for climate action were defeated, and candidates paid for by corporate interests and bolstered by sinister voter suppression tactics won the day.
“This election marked a pivotal change in how candidates confront the climate crisis, We’re not backing down.
“Public support is solidly behind action to tackle the climate crisis. While we have lost friends in Congress, we are gaining them in the streets, as our movement grows stronger and broader”***
I mean, talk about denial………….they _have_ to blame it on evil corporate interests, or their worldview would collapse.
It ain’t never going to be over while people with such a capacity for self-delusion are taken seriously.
I share Erics optimism. Listen to him, he knows stuff.
Reblogged this on Utopia – you are standing in it! and commented:
Green politics are not popular when the economy is weak. When the economy is strong, the green parties will make a comeback.
What is clear is growth in the party vote of the green parties may have tapped out in terms of growth.
The end of green politics will be marked by the failure of the 2015 United Nations Paris Climate Summit (COP21) to come to agreement on another treaty to replace Kyoto. What’s happening now is only a preamble to that.
Ontario, Quebec to craft united stand on Energy East pipeline project
The two Liberals are allies in pushing the climate agenda to the forefront in provincial/territorial talks, arguing there needs to be a national energy strategy that focuses on both pipelines and emissions.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/wynne-couillard-to-discuss-energy-east-project/article21686409/
In my opinion green politics is about an attack on the rational in western civilization. It started with Rosseau and the romantic movement of the 18th century, encompassed fascism, nazism, and marxism, and now is culminating in irrational “scientific” scare politics.
Roman civilization collapsed when it looked most promising, symptomatically because of chronic political instability at the top, but profoundly because the Romans were control freaks, and couldn’t leave markets and cultures free.
The greens represent the most visible manifestation of a similar inbuilt tendency to destruction in our own civilization. This conflict has many centuries to run.
“Will green politics soon be a thing of the past?”
No the Green Bullies will be around for a long time. The reason Obama is so vocal is that he is paying back those green donors during his election campaign and Hillary Clinton will do the same. Obama will make millions boring everyone in his future talks on how he saved the world. Also the billion dollar big green industry will not give up whilst the money flows in.
When the economic madness of renewables is clearly manifest to all, the Greens will merely change their spots.
Who can forget CAGW > Climate Change > Climate Extremes > weather weirding.
Zealotry has no cure.
Prime Minister David Cameron of Britain just got nailed twice (second time in the last few days) by the upstart United Kingdom Independence Party, in high profile by-elections. As an indication of UKIP’s position on climate change, a few years ago, UKIP’s climate spokesman was Lord Monckton.
That may be so. However, the most likely alternative Prime Minister, should Cameron’s party fail to win the General Election in May 2015, would be Ed Miliband. He it was, as Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change (!) from 2008 to 2010, who was responsible for the Climate Change Act, almost certainly the most expensive piece of legislation (in terms of its economic impact) ever to be passed by Parliament.
This, if nothing else, goes to demonstrate that, at least in the UK, CAGW is not a left-right issue, something which a few of us (h/t Messrs Courtney for example) have been trying to get across.
Out of the frying pan …
Strongly green policies have a couple of things against them…
1. They are often of a scientifically dubious nature, such as knee-jerk opposition to nuclear power and genetically modified foods.
2. They are often hard on the economy and on governments’ finances.
They become even more toxic when combined with far-left politics.
A BIG YES INTO THE DUST BIN GOOD BUY AND DON,T COME BACK