Subcommittee on Green Jobs and the New Economy hearing entitled, “Farming, Fishing, Forestry, and Hunting in an Era of Changing Climate”
Tuesday, June 3, 2014, 10:00 AM EDT EPW Hearing Room – 406 Dirksen
I have an advance copy of the testimony to be presented by Dr. David Legates. Links to it and video streaming follow.
The testimony:
6.3.14 Witness Testimony – Legates (PDF)
How to watch – go here
Webcast can be accessed by clicking the red “live hearing” icon when the hearing begins at 10:00am ET. Please note that the icon will not appear until 10:00am ET and may require your web browser to be refreshed at that time.
It is so terribly depressing to read the words of Dr. Legates testimony.
Here in WA state :
But Gov. Jay Inslee and environmental groups applauded the president for his leadership in limiting carbon pollution they said poses serious risks to people and the environment.
Inslee said the state is moving forward on climate action, and its work will be more effective with committed federal allies.
The fraud of CO2 caused catastrophic global warming will not die. The government(s) at all levels are now in suppression, coercion mode, likewise the media and institutions of teaching. I see NO salvation from where this is all headed.
Well I’m not sure whether Senators actually read all of the submissions. But if they do, and besides all the useful climate data, I hope their eyes are opened to the unwholesome nature of CAGW culture by the description of David’s shocking treatment at the hands of his own University (of Delaware).
Figures 4 and 7 aren’t showing for me. I downloaded the file. But I’m using “PDF Viewer 0.1.8” that comes with Debian stable, not the official Adobe products.
Will you please post those Figures here, in case others have problems?
Tells all that needs to be understood about the corruption of science by politics and post modern scientists.
Oh, are we in “an Era of Changing Climate”?
When was the last era of non-changing climate then?
An excellent article that compliments the Congressional testimony of Dr Botkin in outlining the limitations of climate models and the claims of CAGW in general. He correctly makes the point that the effect on crop growth is a balance between precipitation and evapotranspiration in providing adequate water to the crop and the beneficial effects of increased atmospheric carbon dioxide and surface temperature. But, key points that are missing are that increased carbon dioxide reduces evapotranspiration from crops by reducing the numbers and or size of the leave stomata, making them more drought resistant, and that water supply to the crop is also linked to soil structure and the root system of the individual crops that enable them to exploit water and nutrients at different depths. This should not be taken as a criticism as it is a matter of ‘horses for courses’ and the article is more than adequate to inform members of Congress on the inadequacy of the science behind the CACW meme.
If Climate Change wasn’t ambiguous enough now we have “Changing Climate”
– Do you believe in “Changing Climate”?
– I beg your pardon. I don’t understand your question.
The comments on climate were succinct and compelling, while the witch hunt and discrimination experienced by Dr Legates are obviously the actions of the self-appointed Climate Inquisition. Only those of the true faith may be heard, all unbelievers must be punished.
Totally and utterly corrupt – Is there any other way to describe ‘climate science’ as it is practiced today?
Foolish and gullible – Is there any other way to describe politicians (usually science-challenged lawyers, economists and PR people) who believe the tall tales of imminent Thermageddon?
This is what they should tell Congress. If they would fight global warming, they might lose what a politician can use the most, a plausible excuse.
How long will it take for a sentient civilization such as ours or maybe a future one to realize the depth, the breadth and the height of the stupidity of the term “climate change”.
Climate is always changing. It is a chaotic dissipative system. That’s what they do, all the time.
What would be more unusual and worth talking about would be the anomaly of “climate stasis”. This would be like the climate having died, as Richard Lindzen put it.
Stasis and equilibrium in climate means the same as it would mean in a living organism – death of the system; no wind, no ocean currents, no cloud, no rain. No life. Is this what they want?
Reblogged this on gottadobetterthanthis and commented:
“My overall conclusion is that droughts in the United States are more frequent and more
intense during colder periods. Thus, the historical record does not warrant a claim that
global warming is likely to negatively impact agricultural activities.” Dr. David Legates
How much of this is academic freedom and how much is this is UD administrators keeping the gravy train rolling for the grant making machine? I’ve often maintained that the massive overhead of the university research system demands large, regular infusions of cash so a faculty member’s value to the institution is defined in dollars and sense as is their research. In the face of a presidential administration with a climate agenda, the administrators are simply doing what is necessary to satisfy the folks that bankroll their beaurocracy. The Feds are simply doing what they’ve always done, pulling the financial strings to make the puppets dance. With green NGO’s and the EPA having a revolving door between them, the Greenpeace FOIA is simply a back channel harassment mechanism from the Feds. The U of D administration knows who butters their bread.
Kadaka – I’m on Debian stable, too, and the file shows o.k. with Evince (Gnome desktop) and Okular (KDE desktop).
The only thing missing from the title is ‘Gathering’ as in ‘Hunting and Gathering’ as these are the only jobs that will be left once the greens get their way.
A prime example of a person victimized by those stricken with Athropogenicitis.
If this type of behavior happened in any other aspect of U.S. society, there would be people in jail for their actions and there should be in this case.
This is absolutely horrible and illegal behavior with malice aforethought with respect to killing a career.
This is exactly what happens when bad behavior becomes systemic from no disicplinary actions or legal challenges against the perpetrators of such heinous crimes.
I again suggest crowd funding/sourcing legal action.
This is a MUST READ! Straight out of Animal Farm. Some pigs are more equal than others – Mann and Santer just to name a couple.
Hard to believe that there are actually people thick enough to believe there is a stable climate stage that we once had and we can return to. Ignorance and hubris are a deadly combination.
When the BBC reports on ecological effects of global warming the story usually goes as follows:
Q: What has been the impact of global warming?
A: This species (or whatever) has suffered from something else, like loss of habitat, or regular pollution, LEAVING IT MORE VULNERABLE TO CLIMATE CHANGE
So, there has not been an impact from climate change, but the viewer is left with the impression that there has been.
But the good news for the species or activity in question is that it has been better studied and its problems publicised. So, sceptical ecologists and economists should exploit the CAGW scare to get a better understanding of the subject of interest, fobbing off the funding agency (or whatever) with some bull about increased vulnerability to AGW.
Things haven’t changed much since the time of Socrates.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Socrates
Legates’ disclosure that the NSF didn’t even respond to two of his applications, he presumes because he was on a blacklist based on the Anderegg paper, is quite an indictment of the fantasy that science is a free market in ideas. There’s an invisible thumb on the scales.
Just infuriating to read how Dr. Legates was abused. I applaud his measured, restrained account of how his university in particular, but also so-called science journals and science funding organizations mistreated him. Academic freedom is dying as truth is no longer either the object of academia nor a defence for ‘politically inconvenient’ activities that fly in the face of our current ‘ends justify the means’, activist academic ethos.
Astounding. Professor Legates presents strong evidence that the CAGW Alarmists have trampled upon scientific method, scientists, peer review, our legal system, university administration, and much more. Congress must send in some adults to take charge from the Alarmists children.
No less important, Professor Legates presents valuable criticisms of computer models and of claims that North America is doomed by drought.
Great post.
Just finished watching the hearing in it’s entirety, thank you for the heads up on the webcast Anthony and thank you boss for placing me on the night shift today.
To summarize, very predictable with the D’s witnesses and the R’s witnesses. I recommend the last 30 or 40 minutes of the hearing. This includes the second panel with Dr. South and Dr. Legates. Very compelling testimony from both of these men. Dr. South destroys the mythology of CO2 driving more intense and frequent wild fires. He points out how increases in forest floor fuel load are one of the primary drivers of fire intensity plus the efforts of firefighters now to save homes built in the forest contribute to fire growth and size of acreage burned. He presented charts and data that contradict correlations between CO2 and fire in the US. Dr. South is a Forrester and PhD. A very pragmatic and no nonsense individual it appeared to me.
Dr. Legates told his story, posted here by Anthony. Those of us that had the great privilege of university education in science and those that have a true love of science and are educated on the history of science recognize the fallacy of consensus. The emperor has no clothes and Piltdown mann cometh again but the religious spell is strong and the true believes of the CO2 religion in the room were unmoved. They were unmoved on the history of science wrong turns but they were moved to be rude and condescending. All democrats, save the chairman, left the room and then out trotted Sheldon Whitehouse (D) who proclaimed Dr. South and Dr. Legates as “fringe” then he left as well.
So this is how the meeting ended, democrats missing in action, deserters, confident in their belief that the science is settled and all who dare to proclaim contrary scientific evidence are fringe.
Why aren’t such events considered discrimination under the law. Is there any reason, for example in Legates case, that he cannot sue the crap out of the university AND White for discriminatory acts against him? I think specific, clear legislation needs to be drafted to protect scientists and professors and other professionals from being treated differently ….ie DISCRIMINATED against, in ANY fashion.
This testimony is all for naught. The agendas of greed and lust for ever increasing power will insure that no amount of facts will sway the believers or the those who have seized the fabricated crisis for personal enrichment.