The bottom falls out of major US newspaper coverage of climate

From Dr. Roger Pielke Jr’s Twitter feed:

One graph says it all, especially after I annotated it for climate news spike events.

2000-2013_climate_coverage

Source of original: http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/media_coverage/us/index.html

Note that WUWT was at the source/center of two spikes: Climategate and the IPCC AR5 leak. Always happy to help.

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102 thoughts on “The bottom falls out of major US newspaper coverage of climate

  1. Let me guess from the graphs, as a non-US citizen, that the NYT and the LA Times are the biggest bugaboo green rags.

  2. Even the media, after all, are in the end driven by what the Public is willing to pay attention too. And the plain and simple truth is – no one cares about this mess anymore. It’s just so 2007.

  3. When the snows of winter begin falling in mid-October, sunspot numbers continue to decline, arctic ice zooms to early records, and we still haven’t had a hurricane, will the media begin to realize something is not quite right with their favorite meme? Will Al Gore’s head finally explode? Will some of the lead AGW “scientists” have to be put on suicide watch?

  4. It’s possibly the beginning of the pendulum starting to swing towards actual science and the truth. For now though, the press is just not reporting that potential change at all. Silence does speak volumes, but it would be nice for the MSM to at least admit that maybe, just maybe the whole CO2 global warming scheme wasn’t quite accurate. In a few more years, they will have no choice.

  5. Gary Pearse says:
    September 4, 2013 at 2:00 pm
    Let me guess from the graphs, as a non-US citizen, that the NYT and the LA Times are the biggest bugaboo green rags.

    True regarding NYT, but recall they dropped their entire environmental department a few weeks ago, IIRC.

  6. This is intentionally misleading, studies have proven (with 97% certainty) that newspaper coverage of climate issues is still at record levels, it’s just hiding in the deep oceans for now.

  7. Anthony! It’s time to move. Buy a TV station and a newspaper.

    REPLY: Yah, sure. I’ll just call up the Exxon-Mobil company and ask for a petty cash disbursement /sarc – Anthony

  8. Where are the missing articles? In the deep ocean.

    Reporters absorb propaganda from the warmunist scientists radiating it, and re-emit it as global warming articles. But deep oceans can mask global warming news articles for decade-long periods. The pause must be due to hidden news articles in the deep ocean, with deeper layers absorbing a disproportionate amount of BS due to changes in oceanic circulation.

    The news coverage of global warming has not disappeared, and so it cannot be ignored. It must have consequences.

  9. When the new IPCC report comes out it will climb quite a bit but will fall back shortly thereafter. How’s that for SWAG?

  10. What are you going to do if/when the collectivist media starts printing accurate stories about the climate? Will you get a haircut and get a real job??? LOL!

  11. It doesn’t matter, they have won. They are about to start teaching man made climate change and social justice across the country with Common Core.

  12. The Weather Channel, and likewise the formerly science-based magazine ‘Civil Engineering’, the organ of the American Society of Civil Engineers. Nearly every article, focused on one or another design of building or bridge or process, ritually inserts numerous references to the greenhouse-gas virtues of the design under discussion. Just one recent article – on Roman cement – inserts ‘environmentally friendly’, and ‘reduce carbon footprint’, and ‘cuts greenhouse gas emissions’, and ‘emits significant amounts of carbon dioxide’, and ‘use less fuel and emit less carbon dioxide’, and ‘significant emission of CO2′. Perhaps that’s just one way of bulking up the articles to their word quotas, but it’s quite obvious that the ‘Engineering’ process in its masthead – which is supposed to hardheadedly evaluate physical and economic tradeoffs – has been infected with religious fervor based on Al Gore’s crusade as an article of faith.

  13. Along the lines of the news media, Al Jazeera has appeared on my list of stations available on Comcast Cable in the South NJ area and they are advertising heavily so every one knows.
    At the same time Egypt is reportedly banning Al Jazeera because of their radical reports.
    Go figure?

  14. Lance Wallace says:
    September 4, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    The NYTimes may have deep sixed their environmental reporting but they have given Justin Gillis front page space three times in the last two weeks for his easily rebutted screeds. I think that parts of the MSM will continue to promote CACA until they have either divested their pension funds of investments in green mutual funds or the funds themselves have completely crashed and burned.

  15. @ Insufficiently Sensitive

    The reason you see the references to green house gasses and emissions reduction, etc is because the money to pay for roads and bridges comes from the govt. All projects have to be reviewed by the city/ county/ state/ federal departments, which ever department is paying for it. Since the greenies have infected the ranks at the EPA and various DOT(S) then to placate them and get approvals, you have to play the game. I have spoken to many colleagues about this topic and while we all agree that we do impact our local micro climates to some extent, very few are true CAGW/ CO2 is evil believers, sadly most of them are in govt.

    Matthew R. Epp P.E.

  16. Anyone want to place bets who changes their views on Al Gores Warming first?
    WUnderGround, National Geographic, or Weather Channel?
    With the odds a gazillion to one against them changes views, I think it will come down to funding.

  17. “The bottom falls out of major US newspaper coverage of climate”.
    ===================
    Not in Chicago:

    http://www.suntimes.com/opinions/22048060-474/global-warming-is-real-and-its-our-fault-lets-fix-it.html

    http://www.suntimes.com/opinions/letters/22073575-474/carbon-tax-is-important-first-step-in-addressing-global-warming.html

    —–

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherviews/22211449-452/chicago-should-lead-the-way-in-slowing-global-warming.html

    —-

    http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/splash/21934583-418/todd-ricketts-bikes-can-help-solve-some-of-the-worlds-problems.html

    =========================
    Sorry mods,
    those were all from August 2013 after a quick search of the major newspaper.
    There were more, I read it everyday.
    They just can’t stop themselves ?

  18. It will be most interesting to watch how long it takes the “professional societies” to realize they got (willingly) snookered too, and start issuing “amended” climate-change position statements.

    Their membership may be largely evacuated before they acknowledge how badly they perverted the fundamental principles of science with all this consensus-bandwagoneering.

    I look forward to replacement of AGU, GeolSocAmer, AMS, PhysSoc, and fellow-travelers by societies devoted to restoring the rightful place of skepticism in scientific inquiry.

    The die-hard alarmists will always have the Union of Concerned Scientists (with Benji as mascot)

  19. CRS,
    Yes I knew that Big Al sold his country out for more $$$
    It is clear that the propaganda will step up as they pump more and more $$$ to keep the sheeple informed.

  20. Alvin,
    When I tell my kids that the government knows the who and when for all of their cell phone calls, they become more receptive to the skeptical agw argument. Most families won’t bother, but there are many of us who aren’t going to lie down and let Jeb’s Common Core mold our children.

  21. There are still groups of people where they believe in CAGW and are unaware of the scientific data that might contradict some of their deeply held beliefs. Living in the US Pacific Northwest where it is obvious to most casual observer that El Nino-La Nina cycles drive our weather, most progressives are unaware of data contrary to their deeply held beliefs.

  22. Indeed post IPCC BS part 5 , will be the time to see how the press reacts . Those ‘journalist’ that are nothing more then green photocopying machines will run as much and as hard as they can . But if their editors think the public is not interested , then this will not last long .
    Sadly the BBC ’28’ will pull the stops out , so actual coverage may not reflect public interest so much as personnel obsession from those committed to ‘the cause ‘
    How often have with seen a dramatic headline for some worthless ‘research’ only for it die a quite death , well odds on it will be the same this time.

  23. How could a MSM global warming PR campaign succeed if two of its major architects were Mann and Hansen? It couldn’t.

    They were inadequate to the task of being competent with the climate science to begin with, the PR was more of the same incompetence extended to the MSM realm.

    John

  24. I suspect AR5 will be the first IPCC production where the sceptic/realist perspective will have a hearing in the MSM. For AR4 there were no “go to” sceptics, now there are. Never under estimate just how lazy journalists actually are.

    Plus, even some name brand climate scientists, Judy Curry for one, are not likely to sing from the hymn book.

    And, delightfully, as the sensitivity papers, the cosmic cloud connection and such like keep right on coming, the report will be stillborn because its “science” will be outdated.

    [All of which explains why the odious Kevin “the heat is in the deep, deep, deep” Trebleth is reported as suggesting that the IPCC’s AR process is probably not worth keeping.

  25. The money is pulling out:

    More than one climate change activist said privately it might be better for Gore to divert his fundraising prowess and brand awareness to other, longer-lasting groups at this point and abandon the idea of running his own operation. Gore and his prowess are still praised, but there seems to be confusion about what exactly the group does.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/al-gores-incredible-shrinking-climate-change-footprint

    Unfortunately the bureaucratic machinery labors on, and will do so for years. Too many featherbed jobs at stake.

  26. Their only readers are each other. It is a contest of which can produce the most sensational grade school drama. Other issues are actually affecting the sheeple to a higher degree (pun) than climate stories. No big weather drama this summer and winter is coming… :) We watch the super bowl during a blizzard is the big betting.

  27. RHS says: @ September 4, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    Anyone want to place bets who changes their views on Al Gores Warming first?
    WUnderGround, National Geographic, or Weather Channel?
    With the odds a gazillion to one against them changes views, I think it will come down to funding.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I think it will come down to the mile high glacier sitting on their office building and they STILL will insist it is CO2 what done it.

  28. geologyJim says:
    September 4, 2013 at 3:13 pm

    “It will be most interesting to watch how long it takes the “professional societies” to realize they got (willingly) snookered too,..”

    Jim, they didn’t get snookered. The green machine got themselves elected to the levers of these societies and journals. Don’t forget Gleick, the “scientific integrity” officer of AGU got a medal from them after his robbery of Heartland docs and added a phony one of his own. Didn’t Lewandowski get a medal at the Royal Society and a prestigious professorship at a British U for his cooked up survey to show skeptics as sick folks?

  29. It’s not the media coverage of the BS that I fear, though. It’s the crazy politics claiming the BS as ‘justification’. And there’s not much sign yet of a meaningful slowdown there.

  30. Actually I think we are looking at something quite dangerous based on past experience.

    The sheeple were allowed to ‘voice’ their opinions (as long as it agreed with the main goal) and now the USA is moving to the next stage, implementation of the agreed on ‘Consensus’. Once a decision is made in the back rooms of power we get the shaft whether or not we agree, complain or scream bloody murder. The news media was bought up in 1917 link so we never actually know what the real opinions of our fellow sheep are, only what the MSM TELLS us they are.

    The real question is if the power-brokers are comfortable enough with their consolidation of power in China, India, Russia, Brazil, and South America (the BRICS countries) to be willing to finish killing off their base of power in the EU, USA, Australia and the rest of the west.

    Our real hope was the resentment of the Cyprus Haircut and the response from BRICS.

    BRICS: The World’s New Bankers?

    Authored by Rajeev Sharma via The Diplomat
    The BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa) bloc has begun planning its own development bank and a new bailout fund which would be created by pooling together an estimated $240 billion in foreign exchange reserves, according to diplomatic sources. To get a sense of how significant the proposed fund would be, the fund would be larger than the combined Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of about 150 countries, according to Russia and India Report.

    Many believe the BRICS countries are interested in creating these institutions because they are increasingly dissatisfied by Western dominated institutions like the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund (IMF)….

    As usual you need to Follow the Money.

  31. Hey geologyJim:

    I almost gave up my GSA membership of 30+years as a result of its position on CAGW. Thankfully, there are at least some sensible research papers creeping back in to the various publications, so I re-upped at least for this year – I will decide again come December.

    As an aside, I have been a Subject Matter Expert on the National Association of State Boards of Geology (the uniform national professional testing organization) and I am currently the new appointee to the Executive Committee and upcoming President of the group. IN my 10 years at ASBOG I heard ONE (count them) geologist suggest that the PG examination should include questions about geologic repositories for carbon sequestration because of AGW. The rest of us (and we are all State Geologists, University professors, and/or on our respective states’ licensing boards and practicing professionals) simply joke about AGW. Whenever we are reviewing one of the PG examination questions and we are not certain of the answer, one of us will invariably say…”Oh, it’s global warming” even if the question pertains to something as esoteric as metamorphic petrology.

    We are the group, selected by our respective states’ professionals and legislatures to represent each state pertaining to the practice of professional geology, and we make recommendations to the many universities as to curricula to ensure graduates will be prepared to become a licensed professional, and almost to a man (woman) none of us take AGW with even a modicum of seriousness. The one person who made the suggestion regarding sequestration was a one-hit-wonder – he/she was at one meeting representing his/her state, but never made a second appearance.

    We conducted our routine five-year Task Analysis Survey of thousands of practicing professionals and university professors three years ago (2010) and NOT ONE respondent suggested that questions on the test should include anything about AGW.

    It is apparent that REAL practicing Earth scientists could not give a flying @#*& about AGW nonsense

  32. Gary Pearce:

    The leaders of those societies are interested in one thing – controversial topics which garner federal research grants and generate revenue for the society. They will publish anything on any topic which might be squeezed under their umbrella as long as it is a topic for which the current government is providing $$$ and text book publishers are pushing. They will make pronouncements supporting whatever position because they want government scientists to publish (they charge authors a per-page fee to publish their research) and they want those government researchers to spend money coming to their annual meetings) and they want federal agencies [e.g., USGS] purchasing VERY expensive booth space at their conferences. And text book manufacturers, who spend fortunes on exhibit space at conferences, want NEW research (good or bad) which makes last year’s texts obsolete. So there is pressure from publishers for societies to push agendas which, in turn, push new ideas, which will result in the push (at university) to push new text books. They can’t have anyone standing up and saying it’s all hooey, and not receiving an official “Shut up and sit down” order, or they will not be popular with the people who really fund those big meeting halls and buy advertising space in their journals.

    Let’s not be naiive – it’s follow the money. Plain, simple, mercenary, followed by a whole host of pejorative explicatives.

  33. This is the sort of media climate reporting data that spells very bad news for all those scientists, both pseudo and real who have jumped aboard the climate catastrophe / global warming / climate change,/ extreme weather tax payer funded gravy train and who have used the climate catastrophe meme as a personal promotion vehicle.
    As the politicals in a democracy ultimately follow the dictates of their public, they also will start to run out of publicly acceptable excuses to keep on lavishly funding a dying ideology which their voters have lost interest in.
    Voters, who as they become ever more aware of the real facts behind the ever changing natural climate, are viewing with rising contempt, the climate alarmist scientists and advocates involved, The lies, the deliberate data corruption, the highly selective use of data to bolster their claims and the deliberate distortions created by those same alarmist scientists and climate alarmism advocates to try and bolster their personally held ideology and to access the lavish tax payer funded grants handed out by governments driven by the fear of catastrophic climate changes, fears deliberately created by those same climate warming catastrophe scientists and alarmism advocates.

    For all those climate alarmists advocates and scientists, you now have in your personal data files, a record of politically supporting and promoting a grossly misleading and increasingly corrupt climate alarmist science campaign which attempted to force the public across the world to conform with your own personal beliefs and ideology regardless of the deeply distressing and for some deadly personal costs as well as the horrendous social and financial costs that you created in promoting and advocating your own personal climate catastrophe ideology.

    When it comes to your future as scientists it may be that you will find yourselves sweeping streets for a living as your record follows you for the rest of not only your professional life but also your personal life.
    And that would be a fitting and just finale for your careers as scientists and those of your personal climate alarmism advocacy who quite deliberately set out to create so much despair and fear in hundreds of millions of ordinary people based on nothing more than the totally unproven outputs of some very dodgy and increasingly disreputable climate models.

    Of course in this life where deserved moral justice is avoided by so many. those so called climate catastrophe promoting scientists, many of whom seemed to have the most minimal ethical and moral standards will, as is usual with those types, just try to lie and filibuster themselves out of their nefarious record and insert themselves into some other equally nefarious and corrupt so called scientific pursuit where there will be another great haul of tax payer largesse to be conned out of the politicians if they can be thoroughly frightened again by further claims of catastrophic occurrences “unless you do something in concordance with our advice” .

    The climate scientists are after all just ordinary humans who are definitely no better, no smarter, just as good or just as bad, just as morally and ethically corrupt or just as ethical and moral as any other professional sector of our society.

    So ,they deserve no more and no less than that applied to anybody and everybody else in any other proffession, be it lawyers, doctors, engineers, bureaucrats and etc and etc in our society for their misdeeds, deliberate and otherwise and for the often deliberately misleading and false claims and corruption while indulging in their publicly funded scientific profession and acting in their professional scientific capacity.

    And that, considering the truly immense personal and social costs for society that the climate alarmist scientists created with their corrupted climate model created alarmism, would merely be the application of equality of justice for all,

  34. The “pause” is intentional. Just ask any CAGW believer..

    They need to rebrand the meme.. to much negative info exposing the lies are making it impossible to continue to sell snake oil.

  35. Mark and two Cats says:
    September 4, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Where are the missing articles? In the deep ocean.

    And the super models confirm it.

  36. People want to read news, not propaganda, nuanced opinion and speculation disguised as news. Perhaps newspapers are finally learning that lesson, but it may be too late.

  37. Oops! Must have hit “Enter” accidently. Let’s try again.

    “Soon they will be headlining that a new ice age is coming and we’ll all doomed.”

    Probably, Michael – but their advantage is that they’ve already got the stories already written, from the 1970’s.

  38. Yaknowhut? I gave up cable. I gave up satellite TV also. Don’t miss it at all. I will not pay to watch this BS that the MSM put out. I have an antenna that doesn’t get 5000 channels of propaganda. It’s free. They don’t get paid. You can give it up too. (If you choose to.)
    Their loss of monetary funds to keep their companies in the black can be attacked.
    I did it. You can too. ;-)

  39. OK: Here’s the official prophecy…that needs to be capitalized … Prophecy. Cause it’s “official.”
    If I’m wrong, then, of course, I will be subject to stoning. Unlike the fools who led the world into a maze of manipulated media proclaiming the Good News of the Bad News. Their new religion was false but there will be no penalty for their gaff. As gigantic as it was…no stoning for the false prophets of weather doom.

    Here is what will happen:
    By mid 2016 there will be a highly confidential meeting of key elites from the Left, mainly the Academy, but also key Democratic leadership and Press leadership, including the NYT and National Geographic. Some will send surrogates but the bottom line will be to abandon the failed Man Made Global Warming line … quietly re focusing on a NEW Crisis. The subject will change. A new and even more dangerous crisis will begin dominating news stories and scientists will be on the forefront of the new and “holy cow…Batman” assertions of doom if We do not act NOW to stop the x from taking place. The science will be presented and the DANGER given as an inevitability which only FOOLS would not believe.

    My suggested crisis (not part of the “official Prophecy”) is that the mutation rate for viruses be the new villain. The evil menace that only THEY saw coming which saved the world. OH, Thank God for THEM. And without Them we’d have no internet. So just be thankful…THANKFUL.
    The point is: By 2016, the writing on the wall will be too much relative to Global Warming. They will turn down the Global Warming (already changing?….Climate Change instead)….and then new reports from top scientists on X…that will quickly be turned into the REAL threat to humankind.

    That’s it: Just change the subject. Blame industry and the FOOLS who won’t believe them…but WE know the world is round and the Science is settled on this….and …..and…..the Polar Bears …and…. and…

    That’s the Prophecy…pivot…never admit they were wrong…just pivot and use the same gimmick to SHOW the world that THEY are indispensable for saving Humankind and the planet…which ever is most important, but let’s not make moral judgments….and they gave us the Internet. And the public will forget….after a few Years of not mentioning the former threat, the new one will dominate and in fact, just like Egyptian children are taught they WON their last war with Israel, the Elites will claim they saved the world from GW by their actions….the facts being forgotten and muddied as they proclaim the NEW THREAT….see???? The POLAR BEARS LIVE>>>YES…The POLAR BEARS LIVE. But wait….they warn….the new VIRUS may….just MAY kill them too as it threatens Humankind….so…..WE must ACT.

  40. That Idiot Driver says:
    September 4, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    The new crisis whose deniers must be stoned has already been anointed: Sustainability.

    The crisis must be man-made, so that the evil doers can be taxed into submission.

  41. As we continue on the cooling trend, let me be the first to say that perhaps a decade from now, out of fear of a new LIA, the US government passes a spending bill for say, $100B, to construct a giant magnifying glass in space to focus the sun’s rays to melt sea ice. Meanwhile they will still be funding global warming research.

    For those reading outside the US, that’s how our government works.

  42. Ummmm…. Max Boykoff that Pielke Jr refers to happens to be a guy involved in a circular citation problem with the person at the heart of the smear of skeptic climate scientists, Ross Gelbspan. Boykoff thanked Gelbspan for his work on telling how skeptics got too much undeserved media balance around 2004, while Gelbspan thanked Boykoff for doing a study showing skeptics got too much undeserved media balance. I described that in more detail here: ” ‘Media Too Fair to Climate Skeptics’, say reporters who’ve been unfair to skeptics” http://ow.ly/iWKi6

  43. I am not sure we are not going to see an increase in Propaganda pushed by the President to implement measures to control CO2 emissions. Today in Sweden he spent a lot of time suggesting that he will implement more such regulations and warming, soft ball questions came from complicit media.

    The following is part of the press conference in Sweden:
    “Sweden is obviously an extraordinary leader when it comes to tackling climate change and increasing energy efficiency and developing new technologies and the goal of achieving a carbon-neutral economy is remarkable, and Sweden is well on its way. We deeply respect and admire that, and think we can learn from it.”

    “In the United States we’ve taken some historic steps, doubling our electricity from wind and solar, improving the fuel efficiency of our cars, reducing our carbon pollution to the lowest levels in nearly 20 years, but we all know we need to do more. So my new climate action plan — more clean energy, more energy efficiency, less emissions — will allow us to do even more in the years to come, and we look forward to a close partnership with Sweden on what is going to be a global challenge. And at the Royal Institute of Technology today, I look forward to seeing some of the innovative ways that we can cooperate.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/full-transcript-president-obamas-press-conference-with-swedish-prime-minister-fredrik-reinfeldt-in-stockholm/2013/09/04/35e3e08e-1569-11e3-804b-d3a1a3a18f2c_story.html

    The president will keep this in the news woth the cooperation of the MSM

  44. Figures,

    you take the spike associated with hurricane sandy and then attribute to the AR5 leak. definitely needs to be corrected. We only started to hear about the AR5 leak only a few weeks ago.

  45. This Labor Day weekend, Kevin Trenberth was the first speaker at the 5th annual Global General Gathering of the Triple Nine Society, (for those with IQ scores on any of several tests, that place them above 99.9% of the general population), held in downtown Denver Colorado. He included considerable actual science in his alarmist talk, as well as trotting out all the boring old lies about ocean “acidification” and so forth.
    He showed the CO2 graph from Mauna Loa, and how the year-over-year upward trend in that is accelerating.
    He acknowledged the “Denialists” publicity of the last 16 years of flat temperature graph–and showed it as part of a much longer trend that was still very clearly upward. Nobody called him out on anything, though I was certainly grumbling under my breath in several places. You would never suspect that 1934 is considered by many to have been the warmest year of the 20th century, nor that large fractions of critical graphs were simply made up. One graph “proved” a strong correlation between CO2 and temperatures with temperature graphs that were flat out falsified before 1970 (peaks flattened down from the 1930’s for example) and no mention of the Little Ice Age. Worse, there was no hint that the low CO2 levels before Mauna Loa were not based on actual measurement (some of the few measurements made in the 1800’s were in the 600’s ppm–comparable to recent city measurements in Arizona by the Idsos). There certainly was no mention of the step changes in temperature of the 1980s/90’s right after the number of weather stations was sharply cut.
    Some years ago, I read of a psychological study that found people take 7 times as long to unlearn something as they take to learn it in the first place. Then I saw another one that said it takes 11 times. I saw that in these brilliant people. They have thoroughly learned the falsehoods of global warming, and they are not open to actual facts.
    But I learned from later presentations that the world is led, not by the brightest, but by those a little above average. We can reach those people, I think.

  46. Lady Life Grows says:

    September 4, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    “Some years ago, I read of a psychological study that found people take 7 times as long to unlearn something as they take to learn it in the first place. Then I saw another one that said it takes 11 times.”
    =====================
    I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I learned the first time, that cleaning grass out of the shoot of a running lawnmower is dangerous (only got sliced).
    It was instantly unlearned, no 7/11ths about it :)

  47. Bruce Cobb says:
    September 4, 2013 at 3:03 pm
    What we have here, is a failure to communicate climate change
    ——————————————————–
    There’s truth in what you say.
    We are failing to inform the public.
    What we need are some Greenpeace types to hang from a windmill with a banner.
    It’s the SUN stupid
    No warming for 15 years

    cn

  48. Notice, LA Times and WaPo – maybe the lie really does carry its own destruction in it – LA Times and WaPo have not survived their incessant lying intact; WaPo already needed cash infusions by the Ford foundation and now socialist crony billionaire Bezos; LA Times seeks a new sugardaddy.

    Similarly in Germany Der Spiegel is in a leadership crisis, dropping sales and internal strife; the leftist Frankfurter Rundschau has already died and needed to be reanimated by another puppetmaster.

    I’m confident though that all organs of the Western Pravda will at least survive in name; it is not too expensive for the Keynesians to make it seem like they still exist. If all else fails funnel over some taxpayer dough as to the green NGO’s.

    But if the lie is really that destructive, maybe it will then kill the puppetmasters themselves. Memetic contagion.

  49. Lady Life Grows says:
    September 4, 2013 at 8:17 pm
    “Some years ago, I read of a psychological study that found people take 7 times as long to unlearn something as they take to learn it in the first place. Then I saw another one that said it takes 11 times. I saw that in these brilliant people. They have thoroughly learned the falsehoods of global warming, and they are not open to actual facts.”

    I see that in my German engineer colleagues as well. These days I treat them like children; which works best. Don’t get angry at them, just repeat information. Point out the uncertainties on both sides. Point out the financial motivations for lying; the cui bono.

    They have a blind trust in the state media and figures of authority, especially scientists – that is exactly the lever that the social engineers use; that is the reason they use scientists to spread their reality construct.

    Once the trust in the state media and the government scientists is shattered, they start to think on their own.

  50. One of the famous German cartoons of 1990 (it came out in January) shows Karl Marx, trying to look nonplussed, hands buried in his pockets, muttering “Sorry, guys, it was just a dumb idea of mine…”

    Seems like it’s time to replace Big Karl with Big Al.
    Josh?

  51. It’s worse than we thought. Global warming causes selective amnesia. Pretty soon we will forget all about it, and the crisis will pass us by without anybody noticing.

  52. ROM says: @ September 4, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    …. As the politicals in a democracy ultimately follow the dictates of their public, they also will start to run out of publicly acceptable excuses to keep on lavishly funding a dying ideology which their voters have lost interest in….
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I am afraid you have it completely backwards. As I just said the deals are made in the back rooms and then the Media, Academia and Politicians are given their marching orders. The public has ZERO to do with it.

    Here is the well researched example that woke me up. It shows many many parallels to the CAGW/sustainability push and can be considered a template on how our ‘Political System’ actually works. Notice it took sixty years to complete the implementation of the plan once it was concieved. The goal is the complete capture of the World’s food production. With the US Food Safety Modernization Act and similar legislation world wide, the last piece was put in place, the capture of US food production. Family farmers in the USA do not know it yet but they are already a extinct species. The USDA/FDA just haven’t shot them yet.

    A SWAT team broke through the gates of a small Arlington, Texas farm and led a massive 10-hour search of the property. The residents were handcuffed and held at gunpoint while they watched more than 10 tons of their property hauled off in trucks. What dangerous contraband required this massive governmental response? It wasn’t illegal explosives, stolen vehicles or drugs, but rather organic blackberry bushes, okra plants, and sunflowers….

    History, HACCP and the Food Safety Con Job
    The American public has a great and unmet need to understand the true impacts (that is, the predictable consequences) of the Food Safety Enhancement Act of 2009 before the Senates passes its version of this dangerous bill…. [It passed]

    Using the pretext of food safety, those behind the Food Safety Enhancement Act seek to institute changes the American public would not condone if it understood what is at stake. The country is being duped into believing that the pseudo-scientific measures prescribed by the bill will prevent new outbreaks of food-borne illnesses when in reality FSEA will usher in a number of undesirable outcomes, none of which do a thing to improve food safety. On the contrary, these measures will permit large processors to become an essentially unregulated segment of the industry by privatizing the inspection process, and — at the same time — the new regulations will constitute a cost-prohibitive barrier for small players to remain in business, making them easy targets for indiscriminant enforcement and greater market consolidation….

    Before we examine how FSEA will impact our food supply, it would be helpful to understand more about some highly relevant though little known history of American agriculture and its industrialization.….

    This transformation was the result of organized plans developed by a group of highly powerful — though unelected — financial and industrial executives who wanted to drastically change agricultural practices in the US to better serve their collective corporate financial agenda. This group, called the Committee for Economic Development, was officially established in 1942 …..

    Composed of chief executive officers and chairmen from the federal reserve, the banking industry, private equity firms, insurance companies, .. — representatives from every sector of the economy with the key exception of farmers themselves — CED determined that the problem with American agriculture was that there were too many farmers. But the CED had a “solution”: millions of farmers would just have to be eliminated.

    In a number of reports written over a few decades, CED recommended that farming “resources” — that is, farmers — be reduced. In its 1945 report “Agriculture in an Expanding Economy,” CED complained that “the excess of human resources engaged in agriculture is probably the most important single factor in the “farm problem'” and describes how agricultural production can be better organized to fit to business needs.[2] A report published in 1962 entitled “An Adaptive Program for Agriculture”[3] is even more blunt in its objectives, leading Time Magazine to remark that CED had a plan for fixing the identified problem: “The essential fact to be faced, argues CED, is that with present high levels farm productivity, more labor is involved in agriculture production that the market demands — in short, there are too may farmers. To solve that problem, CED offers a program with three main prongs.”[4]

    Some of the report’s authors would go on to work in government to implement CED’s policy recommendations. Over the next five years, the political and economic establishment ensured the reduction of “excess human resources engaged in agriculture” by two million, or by 1/3 of their previous number.

    Their plan was so effective and so faithfully executed by its operatives in the US government that by 1974 the CED couldn’t help but congratulate itself in another agricultural report called “A New US Farm Policy for Changing World Food Needs” for the efficiency of the tactics they employed to drive farmers from their land.[5]

    The human cost of CED’s plans were exacting and enormous.

    CED’s plans resulted in widespread social upheaval throughout rural America, ripping apart the fabric of its society destroying its local economies. They also resulted in a massive migration to larger cities…. and many farmers’ lives ended in suicide [6]…

    CED members were influential in business, government, and agricultural colleges, and their outlook shaped both governmental policies and what farmers were taught. Farmers found themselves encouraged to give up on a farming system that employed minimal outsourced inputs and capital and get “efficient” by adopting instead a system that required they go into debt in order to purchase ever more costly inputs, … With this consolidation of grain handlers, railways, food processing,… more and more of the food dollar went to processors and retailers, which gained increased market power.

    Farmers, meanwhile, were and continue to be squeezed on both ends:…. This analysis is confirmed by the Keystone Center, an establishment think tank with representatives on its board from Monsanto, DuPont, Shell, Coca-Cola, Dow, General Electric and the Rockefeller Foundation….

    the Keystone report states that “Agricultural research programs have supported farm consolidation by focusing on substituting capital for labor, rather than developing knowledge and production systems that enable operators of modest-sized farms to enhance their incomes by using management and skills to minimize capital expenditures.” [9] It was no accident that research programs at agricultural colleges favored one group at the expense of another.….. “Hundreds of millions of public dollars have been invested in research to improve the efficiency of capital-intensive systems, while virtually nothing has been invested in low-cost systems. If this research imbalance were to be addressed, management-intensive systems might in many cases exceed the efficiency of capital-intensive systems. That would improve the competitiveness and income of moderately scaled, owner-operated farms, and counter the trend toward concentration. But this and other research approaches currently get relatively little attention in publicly funded research programs. Changing the research focus is a prerequisite to revitalizing small and medium-sized farms.”[10]…..

    The current level of economic concentration we see today is the result of careful strategic planning. If actions are not taken to support a less-capital intensive methods a handful of global transnational corporations control will soon control the entire food supply. Farmers and livestock producers alike have been intentionally rendered price takers, while vested interests unfairly externalize environmental and production costs, capturing profits through monopolistic activities that should be halted through anti-trust enforcement by the US Department of Justice….

    Notice the sentences. “The human cost of CED’s plans were exacting and enormous. CED’s plans resulted in widespread social upheaval throughout rural America, ripping apart the fabric of its society destroying its local economies.”

    These people do not give a (self-snip) about the people they destroy so do not expect them to give a flip about the opinions of the public. They have come up with a new method of dealing with the public opinion and rebelling young teenagers Activists. It is the controlled opposition called NGOs (Non-Government Organizations)

    NGOs are thought to be the brainchild of Maurice Strong. As with Professional Societies they are controlled via funding and not through the voting of the membership. This effectively short-circuits any organized public outcry. If an actual grassroots organization does manage to spring up they move in and take it over.

    For an example take Greenpeace who Maurice Strong invited to the UN’s First Earth Summit in 1972.

    Greenpeace co-founder and former leader Dr. Patrick Moore spoke out against attempts by activist environmental groups to politicize the green building agenda.

    Addressing members of the National Association of Home Builders at their recent National Green Building Conference in New Orleans, Moore said, “Greenpeace is using the US Green Building Council’s LEED green building standard as a Trojan horse to deliver an activist agenda that is not in line with science or sustainability.”

    “Ironically, many of the positions that Greenpeace and other activist organizations advocate run contrary to a sound green building approach and will likely do more harm than good,” said Moore… “Greenpeace is opposed to the use of hydro power, nuclear energy, widely accepted sustainable forestry standards and vinyl products, to name but a few of the things they are opposed to,” …“How ironic since nuclear and hydro are among the most sustainable of energy sources while wood and vinyl are among the most sustainable of building materials,”…. link

  53. Martin 457 says: @ September 4, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    Yaknowhut? I gave up cable. I gave up satellite TV also. Don’t miss it at all. I will not pay to watch this BS that the MSM put out….
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I gave up TV back in the 1970’s after I discovered the MSM making up a Vietnam Riot on my university campus out of whole cloth. The film footage of “the riot” was the real killer since I was at ground zero from 7:00 am till 5:00 pm crisscrossing the area where the ‘Riot’ was taking place. Funny how my out of state parents called to check if I was OK but the film was never shown IN the state so my friends’ parents never saw it. (and yes _Jim my friends called home to check)

  54. That Idiot Driver says: @ September 4, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    OK: Here’s the official prophecy…
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956) beat you to it:
    “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

    “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.”

    “The only good bureaucrat is one with a pistol at his head. Put it in his hand and it’s good-bye to the Bill of Rights.” [HMMmmm Department of Homeland Security anyone?]

    “Democracy, too, is a religion. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses.”

    Oh, did that man have a way with words.

  55. I’m predicting WHEN it will happen. Many of the preceding posts speak of the demise of the GW movement from a media perspective…Not now. Too soon. The effort will continue for at least another year to two years and then in a shift of direction we will see the will change to another Big topic. That the Left will do that is not the issue. They are always looking to be the Savior of something. I’m focused on the timing which is the subject of many of the posts…when. Not now. We’re a few years off.

  56. Here is the problem with that stat: Major media has a strategy of simply going silent when the news does not support their editorial policy. This is true not simply of climate. Silencing counter or contrary views is the reason why climate is not being spoken of. The media outlets have no interest in covering the pause, soot, cosmic rays, low sensitivity. That news would moderate people’s impression of AGW.

  57. Am I correct in assuming to expect a review of the contents of climategate-3 to coincide with IPCC AR5?

  58. Gail Combs says:
    September 5, 2013 at 12:59 am

    ROM says: @ September 4, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    …. As the politicals in a democracy ultimately follow the dictates of their public, they also will start to run out of publicly acceptable excuses to keep on lavishly funding a dying ideology which their voters have lost interest in….
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I am afraid you have it completely backwards. As I just said the deals are made in the back rooms and then the Media, Academia and Politicians are given their marching orders. The public has ZERO to do with it.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Gail
    .I’m an optimist when it comes to our race and species but you have to take the very long term view..
    Every sentient species including Homo Sapiens has a hierarchal structure within it’s group or for mankind, within our family, our social contacts, the politics and our culture and our society.

    Consequently there is always an undercurrent of attempts at dominance right down the hierarchal structure of the group be it a tribe of humans,an animal herd or pack or whatever, over others in the same groupings.
    The power seeking often leads to conflict within the group as the success of one group over another or over other groups within the major group will generally lead to some reaction, often a strong to severe reaction as the displaced and formerly dominant elements try to re-establish their dominance of the group.
    But any power structure dominated by individuals and groups within the main group is always unstable over time and the dominant ones are just as likely to be kicked out of their status enhanced position by an upstart or by of the lower ranking elements combining to challenge and displace the dominate ones and install another of their choosing or who is acceptable to the main group…
    So the groupings that are attempting domination and the grasping of power which you are concerned about, generally have a relatively short life time in power.
    When they no longer have the strength to beat challengers or the respect of the whole group they will be displaced from their dominant position.
    And that particular meme reigns right across the animal kingdom as well as all of the the race of man.

    This is the basis of the group power structure of every sentient species, a temporary dominating position of unknown length and level of dominance by a group or an individual who can never gain and hold power alone without a deal of support from a subservient cabal of followers and who will sooner or later will be displaced by another domination contending group.

    Despite the Luddism of so many domination attempting groups and the fact that change of anything but a minor consequence usually spells a serious challenge to the power of the dominant group so any attempts to create changes, even minor ones, must suppressed often with the maximum of often less than subtle ferocity,
    Despite all this two steps forward, one and half steps back, the human species has for over two million years slowly climbed and is still climbing the long ladder of civilisation today..

    If we are only prepared to look at our own life span with a bit thrown in from our immediate ancestors then the situation re power and dominance by specific groupings looks pretty nasty.

    If we take the the very long term centuries and the millennium length view then rejoice in how our species has created a world that fills it’s needs so well and will continue to do even better in the future despite the Luddism and the evils perpetrated on their fellow man so many times, so often, over all those past millennium by those seeking to dominate our groups, our tribes, our nations and our species to satisfy their own lusts and domination psychology.

    I guess after some 75 years on this planet. I’m an optimist as despite what seems to be so much evil in the world today, as it has always been throughout my lifetime and for the uncountable number of past millenniums, life for most of the 7 billions now on this planet is for some infinitely better than mankind has ever seen ever.
    And for most of those seven billions a vastly improved and still improving life with the probability of an even better life ahead for most of them.

    There’s a lot to be said for a lifetime of only three score years and ten.
    It cleans out the old dead wood and the rigidity and evils they perpetrated and allows a new start by the next generation on that long climb up the ladder of civilisation..

    And who was it said, “Science advances one funeral at a time”.

    A pretty good metaphor as well for the leadership and the dominating groups and personalities of any era and those in our society and culture who, as always, are trying to usurp power and domination over all of mankind for their own nefarious ends.
    Once the flesh has rotted there are few indeed in the race of man’s past who have left their clear imprint on our race.
    Of the uncountable others and the groupings they used or were part of in their attempts to gain power and domination, they are long gone and nearly all forgotten as their bones lay in the bottom of the dustbin of history.
    So it will be with those present and those into the future who harbor dreams of their own domination of mankind.
    And we, Homo sapiens, the race of “Man”, will just keep right on going into that unknown and unpredictable far future regardless.

  59. tom g(ology) ,could you please contact the welsh geologist john mason of skeptical science in the uk and let him know you and your colleagues position.he has now left the discussion on another forum as the science is settled for cAGW apparently,all evidence provided by links to the skeptical science web site funnily enough.
    day by day,week by week,my trust in the scientific community as a whole is diminishing,solely down to climate scientists.

  60. Matthew R. Epp, PE

    The reason you see the references to green house gasses and emissions reduction, etc is because the money to pay for roads and bridges comes from the govt.

    That might apply to engineering studies related to specific proposed projects. But ‘Civil Engineering’ is the journal of ASCE, a private society (I’m a member), and no project approval by Feds depends on its articles – most of which are written post-facto, describing the latest triumph.

    I’m seriously concerned that the climate-alarmist rot has somehow transferred by contagion from the Universities, and that my formerly hardheaded and science-guided colleagues are so busy straining to provide trendy political ‘leadership’ that their ability to detect and remark on the emperor’s nudity has atrophied. Or maybe it’s just the Editors of ‘Civil Engineering’? Perhaps their recall of the fall of the phlogiston theory of burning, and of the transmission of electromagnetic waves through the ether, allows them to think that all false ‘scientific’ conjectures have now been safely defeated, and civilization is here to stay. But must be maintained by one or two AGW hosannas per paragraph in each article.

    But even civil engineers used to know that science is not exercised by taking a vote.

  61. It’s kinda depressing that a crappy movie created the greatest media buzz about a ‘scientific’ subject. The Lame Stream Media is in the thrall of Hollywood….

  62. Your graph looks like a bubble/panic cycle in any market. Thus, the market for climate alarmism is in decline.

  63. I’m predicting another spike in coverage in order to distract the American public from Obama’s dismal economy, jobs, our rudderless foreign policy, etc. And it’s a great way to demonize the “anti-science” political opposition.

  64. Sad to say, the US Conference of Catholic Bishops and the Pontifical Academy of Sciences are still pushing the CAGW story. Church funds still go to support the Catholic Coalition on Climate Change, which seeks to make parishes greener, reduce Catholic university investment in fossil fuel industry, etc.
    They have somehow convinced themselves that higher food and energy costs will benefit the poor. Ironically, the Catholic Church is becoming a majority Third World organization (in membership), ruled by a Western Elite hierarchy.
    “They know not what they do.”

  65. Obviously the local media is still trying to promote some local “heroes”:

    http://www.nsnews.com/1-900-arctic-kilometres-by-rowboat-1.611572

    “If you’re still wavering on whether the climate is warming the planet and changing the environment, talk to North Vancouver adventurer Kevin Vallely.
    Vallely, along with fellow North Vancouver filmmaker Frank Wolf and crew Paul Gleeson and Denis Barnett, spent weeks in close quarters aboard a custom-built rowboat traversing 1,900 kilometres of the fabled Northwest Passage – a trip previously only possible aboard hulking icebreaker ships. After making it almost two thirds of the way from Inuvik to Pond Inlet, the expedition dubbed Mainstream Last First came to an end before Labour Day weekend when rough weather put the crew a risk.
    “The original intent was to travel 3,000 km to Pond Inlet and boy, I’m amazed we made it 1,900 to be honest. It was really, really challenging conditions with high winds and really erratic weather, Vallely said.”
    So these guys could not do it but, hey, it’s post modern reporting, so they did it…
    And of course:
    “The goal of the voyage, which was financed by Mainstream Renewable Power, was to draw the world’s attention to the reality of open waters where there used to be ice. Critics and climate change deniers who followed their journey online posted dispiriting comments and twisted it as a win for their ideology.”
    Yep, facts are hard to spin so the conference will try to explain that the ice you see is not ice…
    but solid water melting… in August!!! Unprecedented!

  66. Gail Combs says September 5, 2013 at 12:59 am

    A SWAT team broke through the gates of a small Arlington, Texas farm and led a massive 10-hour search of the property.

    Did you SEE that property in Arlington?

    Here, take a look from the air yourself:

    Google sat view .

    After looking at that imagery, right off the bat, can you tell how many vehicles they have parked around the property in miscellaneous places? In MOST cities in Texas, if those vehicles are not registered that alone violates a couple city ordinances labeling them as ‘junk vehicles’ if not parked on concrete or garaged.

    Ironic, too, that place was called “The Garden of Eden”.

    .

  67. Gail Combs says September 5, 2013 at 12:59 am

    A SWAT team broke through the gates of a small Arlington, Texas farm and led a massive 10-hour search of the property. The residents were …

    Don’t know if you saw this, Gail, but here’s one of the “residents”, named Quinn giving an interview and background on the raid:

    Title: “Interview with Quinn, of the Garden of Eden, Arlington TX”

    .

  68. Hmmm … Quinn Eaker (and apparently the owner of the “Garden of Eden” farm. how original) “unschooled” – by his own admission:

    http://womanuncensored.blogspot.com/2010/05/lifelong-unschooler-interview-with.html

    My name is Quinn Eaker. Life is my passion.
    I am a true unschooler at heart and am who I am today because of it. Even being the tip of the spear for the unschooling movement I have now chosen to no longer embrace the word unschooling. I am bringing for the combination of words that contain the true essence of what unschooling is. Self Designed Perfection This interview is a great opportunity to share the vast awareness & experience of the pure essence of existence.
    Blessed Be

    Hmmm … shades of a new-ageism and Gaia worship?

    It’s cases like this, Gail, that make for ‘bad precedents’, and one should think seriously a second time before deciding to seriously associate with individuals like this.

    Do you know what one of the code violations was for? Used car tires lying around … do you know why this is a problem? Tires holding stagnant water (from the intermittent rains we’ve had) and which serve as breeding sites for mosquitoes … do you know why breeding mosquitoes are an issue? They carry West Nile virus of which we have had a number of cases and some deaths from same … and some of the cities down here are (or were) spraying for WNV … do you possibly see now where Quinn Eaker and his unsanitary property-practices were becoming a both a nuisance and health issue?

    Okay, I have posted my last on this subject.

    .

  69. Just Steve says:
    September 4, 2013 at 2:50 pm
    @Rhoda R
    The Weather Channel and National Geographic.

    Add nearly half of all Public Broadcast Systems presentations to that list!

  70. After Obama became president, the journalists had new stuff to lie about. Currently they have more to lie about than they actually can lie, which is a lot. So necessarily, CO2AGW fell by the wayside.

    There’s a business opportunity! The lying capacity of the Western ultrastates is saturated! Demand for lies exceeds supply! We see in the case of John Cook and Nuccitelly that even amateurish liars fetch top funding, jobs and titles in this amazing market environment.

    Seriously. There is an upper limit for the lies that can pass through the channel at any given time.

  71. Okay, one more post on this … what looks to be the most balanced, factual account of the so-called ‘raid’ on the “Garden of Eden” farm, plus pictures of some of the debris at the farm and many more details than I have seen anywhere else on the ‘net:

    http://www.arlingtonvoice.com/story/news/08/14/2013/residents-sustainable-community-shaken-after-busted-police-raid

    As authorized by their warrant, code compliance officers removed 20,420 pounds of nuisance materials. The City itemized everything it removed in a nine-page inventory. Among those items were 24 tires which were pooling stagnant water, piles of rotting vegetables and meat, and mounds of debris.

    The inventory also described various “fecal piles” throughout the lot that were ultimately left untouched.

    According to the city’s affidavit, the property owner refused to comply with multiple requests to clean up the property and make repairs.

    In February, the City issued several Notices of Abatement in an attempt to have the property cleaned up. The property’s owner, Shellie Smith, 54, appealed the notices by requesting an administrative hearing – which she later informed the City she would not attend.

    The inventory of various “fecal piles” is especially interesting; like flies? Carrying ????

    .

  72. Gail Combs,

    If there is a mile of ice on top of the Weather Channel offices, we are all in a world of hurt.

  73. Gail Combs

    The economic grouping of BRIC turned into BRICS when South AFRICA joined. South America is somewhere else….

  74. This supposed “pause” in climate media stories is not long enough to be statistically significant. Besides, the extra stories are hiding at the bottom of the ocean, from whence they shall soon rise and lay waste to the globe.

  75. One skit from SNL will deflate this BS faster than anything .Can you imagine Gore. Hanson And Mann jumping to a skipping rope shouting the science is settled the science is settled in snow gear.Most media will quietly move on and a few will take a parting shot for being duped though they won’t admit it. Earnest people want to believe and they were preyed on as they always have been by BS artists who understand and exploit that human condition.about needing to have something to worry about .They got served a beauty by the AGW billion $ industry . T shirts are 2 for 1 now and pretty soon the wagon will roll out of town. The question is what will replace it. War works well so maybe that will get things going .

  76. Cynical Scientst says:
    “Is this the media pause before coverage starts to switch the other way?”

    LOL I can’t stop laughing.

    I guess we can dream that our media isn’t out for the all mighty buck and trying to report the news.

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